Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 If I could bother you for more help please. I would like to take some info to her next time and I am finding lots of stuff but nothing from a medical source. Lots from naturopaths etc. Does anyone know of a good link. Perhaps she needs something that is in doctors lingo but I do need it from a reputable medical source (naturopaths etc won't cut it) and I just don't know who is who. Something from somewhere that may her think differently to the way she does now. It's worth a try anyway Thanks again Margo > > Margo, > I don't see how T3 could make you tired 6 hrs later. It is all gone by > then. T3 has a half life of 1 1/2 hrs according to one source I read. > Others say 6 hrs to 1 day. After six hours you are tired because you > either it is half gone or you don't have any T3 left in your body. If > T4 is going to RT3, that is what makes you tired because it blocks the > good T3. > > Dorothy > > > What do you do. T3 makes me terribly tired. I thought it was not > > long after I took it the tired set in but it is about 6 hours later > > and it hits hard. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 For me overly emotional and weepy came from too high and too low thyroid. I know it wasn't cortisol for me during these episodes as I was on the right dose of HC. The only exception to this is when I was low cortisol with adequate thyroid as it didn't allow the thyroid to be used. The only way I can tell which is which is through constant monitoring of BP/HR (sitting/standing), BS and temps. Eventually a picture forms that tells what is what. I have been super low cortisol with adequate thyroid and find myself wanting to lie down all the time, get weak, have no ambition and no appetite. It doesn't make me weepy and roller coastery like thyroid does. Doesn't mean it's not different for others because I am sure it is. AG am not sure being moody and crying a lot is due to thyroid level. Ithink it is adrenal. Depression would be hypoth, maybe adrenal, I justfelt over-reactive emotionally and cried a lot for low adrenals.Dorothy> I'm not depressed as I have some good days, I'm sure I am on some > hormonal roller coaster but don't know what to do about it. It > frightens the hell out of me.> > Margo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 It's been a bit hard for to work out what was what. I was making RT3 and didn't know about it. I do know each time I had a low spell a change in NT did wonders. Altering the HC made no difference but I had done things back to front. Didn't know at the start to treat adrenals first. So who knows things could have been quite different for me if I had of done it the right way round. All I know is that this last low spell has been the pits, but then I was on no thyroid meds. I feel very different today. Margo > > For me overly emotional and weepy came from too high and too low > thyroid. I know it wasn't cortisol for me during these episodes as I > was on the right dose of HC. The only exception to this is when I was > low cortisol with adequate thyroid as it didn't allow the thyroid to > be used. The only way I can tell which is which is through constant > monitoring of BP/HR (sitting/standing), BS and temps. Eventually a > picture forms that tells what is what. I have been super low cortisol > with adequate thyroid and find myself wanting to lie down all the > time, get weak, have no ambition and no appetite. It doesn't make me > weepy and roller coastery like thyroid does. Doesn't mean it's not > different for others because I am sure it is. > > AG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 For me T3 wears off in about 6 hours and I need 4 doses a day for even coverage. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Difficult to separate aren't they? I've had too much of both and too little of both and all variations in between..... and it mostly tastes like soup at times for all the distinction availed. I find myself stalking the symptoms. Sorting, culling, note taking..... always an inner focus. Same happened to me waking at night crying. It was low thyroid at the time. Messed up the dose and took too little. But T3 drives the adrenals when it's working, so it's easily both thy and adr. AGPosted by: "Leisa Forman" leisamelanie@... leisamelanieFri Dec 19, 2008 7:03 am (PST)I think I get like that when Im hypoglycemic...I even woke in the middle of the night cryng o nce. For me its the low adrenal funtion and low thyroid at the same time..I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Val do you take slow release or the other. I am on slow release and was told if taking a second dose to take it 12 hours apart. I took 2 x 15mcg not yesterday but the day before and felt things migh have been just a bit too much so only had one yesterday. He wanted my to go in in 7.5mcg doses but didn't have any here in NZ. I also only have about 3 days T3 left. I hope he gets back to me as yesterday was the best day I have had in ages. Still had sore feet and my spell of being tired 6 hours after T3 has settled. I feel a little brighter and really hope this works. One tablet of T4 made feel awful so I am not taking them. My other doc will just have to get over it somehow. How do it work, not getting T4. I understand t4 converts into t3 but how long can you go without taking t4. When do you know you need it again. The doc who gave me T4 was worried it was so low. Do you start making t4 on your own?? Thanks Margo > > For me T3 wears off in about 6 hours and I need 4 doses a day for even > coverage. > > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV > > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I guess you just have to go with what works. I am sure the low spell I had was thyroid. I think my adrenals are ok really. Taking the T3 has been very helpful. Yesterday was quite a good day for me. Margo > > Difficult to separate aren't they? I've had too much of both and too > little of both and all variations in between..... and it mostly tastes > like soup at times for all the distinction availed. I find myself > stalking the symptoms. Sorting, culling, note taking..... always an > inner focus. Same happened to me waking at night crying. It was low > thyroid at the time. Messed up the dose and took too little. But T3 > drives the adrenals when it's working, so it's easily both thy and adr. > > AG > > > Posted by: " Leisa Forman " leisamelanie@... leisamelanie > Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:03 am (PST) > > I think I get like that when Im hypoglycemic...I even woke in the > middle of the night cryng o nce. For me its the low adrenal funtion > and low thyroid at the same time..I think. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 dorothyroeder wrote: > I am not sure being moody and crying a lot is due to thyroid level. I > think it is adrenal. Depression would be hypoth, maybe adrenal, I just > felt over-reactive emotionally and cried a lot for low adrenals. > > In my notes I have down that emotional lability, overly emotiona can be from hyperT, hypoT, or low cortisol. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 The second I get weepy about ANYTHING I up my T3. It os a certain symptioms for me of low T3. -- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I received an email from the doc giving me T3 he has looked at my last saliva results and thought they were fine. I am allowed to take something to support the adrenals to keep them happy he said. Yet to find that magic supplement here. Can't do much more than that. Yesterday I coped with the tired spell well, it seemed to be brief. I also on took 1 15mcg T3 just incase. I am hoping the next lot of T3 I get are a smaller dose. He had run out and was to get some from Australia. I do feel much better still have some niggles but hope in time they will pass. Could someone please look at this product to see if it would be ok. I have taken it in the past but made did not notice a difference. Val kindly looked at another adrenal support we have but thought it had too many stimulants in it. Does this look like this might be te same. Thanks Margo > > Yes Margo, I think it can make you more tired if it uses up what > cortisol you have. > > You really need to make sure you have adequate cortisol before > increasing T3. Not sure about taking 12 hours apart. This might not > work for you. Everyone finds their own zone in which to dose. I dose > 6 a.m., 10 and 2 p.m. Can't take T3 later as I won't sleep. For some > T3 is too stimulating and then for others it helps them sleep. > > If you got flushed and shaky and then felt better after eating, this > is a sign to me that you needed to raise your cortisol levels. Food > increased blood sugar which increases cortisol. > > You will have a much different experience and be able to progress > faster when on HC. > > AG > Could it make you more tired than you were. > > Would this mean I take a second dose earlier. I have only been on > 15mcg (1) per day and increase yesterday to 30mcg (2) but was told to > take them 12 hours apart. > > Got a little flushed and shaky at one part today nut felt better > after some food. My mood has improved but still have trouble about 6 > hours later. Very odd. Still waiting to hear back if I can start HC > > Thanks Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 From the research I have done we do not need T4 as long as we have PLENTY of T3. Pleanty of T3 means OVER range, but ho wmuch over will depend on your body and your lifestyle. T3 CAN be adjusted on a day to day basis. I am finding I need some extra T3 recently due to the heavy workload of the holiday rush. I honestly do nto think our body produces this hormone same day ot dya but by our needs. As T3 is so fawst avcting and dshort lived, I htink this is reasonable. I tried five differnt kinds of SRT3 adn it was LAL liek taking sugar pills for me, So when I wason all T3 I took only the regualr kind but found I needed to dose it four times a day to not have ups and downs. Ths may also vary from person to person as some of us may metabilise it faster than others. I do think I am a fast metaboliser. Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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