Re: Lab that does actual numbers for thyroid antibodies???

November 15, 2008

--- At 12:37 PM 11/15/2008, birrdyy wrote:

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>Does anyone know what lab would give an actual number for thyroid antibodies.

I'm in the Seattle area. I've tried Quest, PAC Lab and Labcorp/Dynacare and they

all only do less than numbers.

Labs always measure immunological activity titres

as a surrogate for auto-antibody levels. There is

no way to do a low-cost " total count " analysis, so

they don't even try, because no one could afford it.

Would it be any more useful?

Bill

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November 15, 2008

I think it would be more useful because according to these three labs there is no Hashi's because it's " less then " . However, it is thought by and other including the folks at RTH that ANY number whether is 2, 5 or 25 is a positive for Hashi's. I know that there are people who have gotten an actual number even if it's the <20 ir <10. I want an absolute answer on this that's why I keep digging.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Bill Kingsbury <b.b.bbverizon (DOT) net> wrote:

--- At 12:37 PM 11/15/2008, birrdyy wrote:>>Does anyone know what lab would give an actual number for thyroid antibodies. I'm in the Seattle area. I've tried Quest, PAC Lab and Labcorp/Dynacare and they all only do less than numbers.

Labs always measure immunological activity titres as a surrogate for auto-antibody levels. There is no way to do a low-cost " total count " analysis, so they don't even try, because no one could afford it.

Would it be any more useful?Bill---

November 15, 2008

Jumping on on your thread... I have often wondered about this.. about

the antibody numbers being over half the way to the 'in zone' and being

told 'no hashi's, but keep an eye on it as it seems to be going that

way'? Is this just another lab range that is too wide? Would any

present antibodies indicate Hashi's or is there a certain allowable

naturally ocurring amount that is randomly generated and floating

about???

thanks, j

> I think it would be more useful because according to these three labs

there is no Hashi's because it's " less then " . However, it is thought

by and other including the folks at RTH that ANY number whether

is 2, 5 or 25 is a positive for Hashi's.

November 15, 2008

As I ahve seen MANY hypo folks go years with no antibodies at all

detectable and then suddenly they appear I think the lasb for this are

sadly inadequate. Possibly the anitbodies live elsewhere than th blood

for most our lives? Or possibly they go into remission where they become

dormant enough they are not detected by the anitbopdy testing. I thik

anyone that has confirmed low T4 shoudl assume they have Hashi's wioth

or without antibodies unless there is a sure sign of iodine deficiency.

There is not to omuch that can go wrong with the thyroi dgland to make

ti stop producing hormones as it should exceopt frank iodine deficiency

which most of us do NOT have or Antibodies destroying the galns. I

tested as negative for MANY years and now have them in abundance.

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November 15, 2008

--- At 12:58 PM 11/15/2008, birrdyy wrote:

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>I know that there are people who have gotten an actual number even if it's the

<20 ir <10.

Which lab methodology did their lab use?

This lab (http://www.rsrltd.com/) in the UK developed:

" Direct assay for thyroid peroxidase (TPO) autoantibodies "

" Direct assay for thyroglobulin (Tg) autoantibodies "

more here:

<http://www.google.com/search?q=TPO+antibodies++%22units+per+mL%22+laboratory+th\

yroid>

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November 15, 2008

Thanks Val. Will put this out of my head now.

As I ahve seen MANY hypo folks go years with no antibodies at all detectable and then suddenly they appear I think the lasb for this are sadly inadequate. Possibly the anitbodies live elsewhere than th blood

for most our lives? Or possibly they go into remission where they become dormant enough they are not detected by the anitbopdy testing. I thik anyone that has confirmed low T4 shoudl assume they have Hashi's wioth

or without antibodies unless there is a sure sign of iodine deficiency. There is not to omuch that can go wrong with the thyroi dgland to make ti stop producing hormones as it should exceopt frank iodine deficiency

which most of us do NOT have or Antibodies destroying the galns. I tested as negative for MANY years and now have them in abundance.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WVhttp://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

November 15, 2008

Not a clue. I guess someone posted results of 5 and I asked and they said it was done right there at the clinic they go to somewhere on the east coast.

Thanks for the info.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Bill Kingsbury <b.b.bbverizon (DOT) net> wrote:

--- At 12:58 PM 11/15/2008, birrdyy wrote:>>I know that there are people who have gotten an actual number even if it's the <20 ir <10.Which lab methodology did their lab use?

This lab (http://www.rsrltd.com/) in the UK developed: " Direct assay for thyroid peroxidase (TPO) autoantibodies " " Direct assay for thyroglobulin (Tg) autoantibodies "

more here:<http://www.google.com/search?q=TPO+antibodies++%22units+per+mL%22+laboratory+thyroid>

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November 15, 2008

I got it via DiagnosTechs, but I don't know if it was a blood test or the

saliva test. I've not got my results handy because I lost my old computer