Re: liver cleanse after gallbladder removal

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm so sorry for your grandmother. I can only tell you my experience.

I'm a 44 year old healthy female, and had my GB out in Sept. 2001. I

continued to have pain/attacks almost immediately after surgery. Two

weeks later I did my first liver cleanse. It took two cleanses before

I was completely out of all pain and discomfort. I've now just

completed my 6th cleanse, and I feel great! I'd suggest that she wait

until she is completely healed from surgery before she attempts a liver

cleanse. See if you can find a more holistic type doctor to evaluate

her and give you advice.

Adrienne

--- lhartwick <lhartwick@...> wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if it is safe to do the liver cleanse AFTER the

> gallbladder has been removed? My grandmother had to have her

> gallbladder removed in November 2001. I say she HAD to because by the

>

> time it was removed, gangrene had set up in it. Horrible! She was

> doing fine until Christmas Eve when she began having severe pains

> again. She was admitted to the hospital for a week during which time

> she became jaundice. An ERCP was done during which the doctor found

> some inflamation in the duct leading to the liver. An incision was

> made in the duct to relieve the swelling and the jaundice is

> gradually going away - the pain immediately went away. The doctors

> still can not tell us if there are any stones in there or not. I'm

> beginning to think the doctors don't know any more than the patients!

> I'm thinking that a liver cleanse would get rid of any stones in

> there.

> Any advice would be appreciated!!!

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dear Adrienne, How long do these cleanses take? Each

one? Thanks, Connie

--- Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...>

wrote:

> Hi,

> I'm so sorry for your grandmother. I can only tell

> you my experience.

> I'm a 44 year old healthy female, and had my GB out

> in Sept. 2001. I

> continued to have pain/attacks almost immediately

> after surgery. Two

> weeks later I did my first liver cleanse. It took

> two cleanses before

> I was completely out of all pain and discomfort.

> I've now just

> completed my 6th cleanse, and I feel great! I'd

> suggest that she wait

> until she is completely healed from surgery before

> she attempts a liver

> cleanse. See if you can find a more holistic type

> doctor to evaluate

> her and give you advice.

> Adrienne

> --- lhartwick <lhartwick@...> wrote:

> > Can anyone tell me if it is safe to do the liver

> cleanse AFTER the

> > gallbladder has been removed? My grandmother had

> to have her

> > gallbladder removed in November 2001. I say she

> HAD to because by the

> >

> > time it was removed, gangrene had set up in it.

> Horrible! She was

> > doing fine until Christmas Eve when she began

> having severe pains

> > again. She was admitted to the hospital for a week

> during which time

> > she became jaundice. An ERCP was done during which

> the doctor found

> > some inflamation in the duct leading to the liver.

> An incision was

> > made in the duct to relieve the swelling and the

> jaundice is

> > gradually going away - the pain immediately went

> away. The doctors

> > still can not tell us if there are any stones in

> there or not. I'm

> > beginning to think the doctors don't know any more

> than the patients!

> > I'm thinking that a liver cleanse would get rid of

> any stones in

> > there.

> > Any advice would be appreciated!!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp This is the link

for the recipe I used. There are several different cleanses; I used

Dr. Hulda 's. The cleanse from start to finish, is about 24

hrs-or an evening and a morning. Preparation time beforehand includes

eating a no-fat breakfast and lunch before beginning the cleanse. Dr.

recommends doing a parasite and kidney cleanse first. Her recipes

can be found online as well. Some people forego them, but I did do the

parasite and kidney cleanse first. I'd suggest reading the online

information available about Dr. 's diet, etc. or obtaining her

book: The Cure for All Diseases. On the curezone.com website, you can

find info about the other kinds of liver cleanses, and recommended

diets to keep our livers healthy.

Adrienne

--- connie green <conniechristian@...> wrote:

> Dear Adrienne, How long do these cleanses take? Each

> one? Thanks, Connie

> --- Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...>

> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > I'm so sorry for your grandmother. I can only tell

> > you my experience.

> > I'm a 44 year old healthy female, and had my GB out

> > in Sept. 2001. I

> > continued to have pain/attacks almost immediately

> > after surgery. Two

> > weeks later I did my first liver cleanse. It took

> > two cleanses before

> > I was completely out of all pain and discomfort.

> > I've now just

> > completed my 6th cleanse, and I feel great! I'd

> > suggest that she wait

> > until she is completely healed from surgery before

> > she attempts a liver

> > cleanse. See if you can find a more holistic type

> > doctor to evaluate

> > her and give you advice.

> > Adrienne

> > --- lhartwick <lhartwick@...> wrote:

> > > Can anyone tell me if it is safe to do the liver

> > cleanse AFTER the

> > > gallbladder has been removed? My grandmother had

> > to have her

> > > gallbladder removed in November 2001. I say she

> > HAD to because by the

> > >

> > > time it was removed, gangrene had set up in it.

> > Horrible! She was

> > > doing fine until Christmas Eve when she began

> > having severe pains

> > > again. She was admitted to the hospital for a week

> > during which time

> > > she became jaundice. An ERCP was done during which

> > the doctor found

> > > some inflamation in the duct leading to the liver.

> > An incision was

> > > made in the duct to relieve the swelling and the

> > jaundice is

> > > gradually going away - the pain immediately went

> > away. The doctors

> > > still can not tell us if there are any stones in

> > there or not. I'm

> > > beginning to think the doctors don't know any more

> > than the patients!

> > > I'm thinking that a liver cleanse would get rid of

> > any stones in

> > > there.

> > > Any advice would be appreciated!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

She just needs to wait till everything inside is completely healed if

she's had recent surgery.

I wanted to do a cleanse afterwards but I was so sick from my surgery

that I was told not to for a long time. It's been 15 months now and

I'm finally to the point that I can get the go ahead to do one. Long

story.

I personally think most the Dr's in my area are just not very good

cause I haven't found one person near me that is happy with the

results of their surgery and fill like it took care of the problem.

In fact I found out my cousin had hers taken out and they found that

it was perfectly healthy. All the Dr. could say was " I guess that

wasn't the problem " she didn't think it was and when she first

started complaining they tried to put her on an anti depressant. She

finally found a decent Dr out of state that was able to do the right

surgery. Turned out her uterus was turning into a sponge.

So if I seem a little upset with the medical profession It's because

in my state most of them don't seem to know what they're doing. It's

like they got their degree out of a cracker box.

My Chiropractor knows more about the body, nutrition and health than

these guys.

I found it really interesting that when I go to my Chiro's office

they are snacking on dried fruit, nuts, water and when I had to

return several times to the Galbladder specialist and walk through

the office they had fries, burgers and pop. He's also a specialist in

the removal of the colon. Gee I wonder why?

Just find that really interesting. One says I can eat anything even

junk food and the other says that if I want to stay healthy than I

need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can guess who cares more

about me.

Also the galbladder specialist turned me away after 5 weeks. I woke

up in pain in my liver area from the surgery and they wouldn't

acknowledge it. Finally told me it had nothing to do with surgery and

that I needed to find another DR.

It's suspected that he nicked my liver or cracked a rib from the pain

I was in and taking 6 weeks to heal. (I've been talking to lots of

people since than and found others with the same experience)

Okay sorry to go on. I just get so burned hearing stories like my

cousin and that is so common in my area

Diane

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/5/02 5:25:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

usanalife@... writes:

> Just find that really interesting. One says I can eat anything even

> junk food and the other says that if I want to stay healthy than I

> need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can guess who cares more

> about me.

>

I've often wondered about this, too. The surgeon that I met with also said

that after surgery I would be able to eat anything I wanted. Why on earth

would ANY doctor even suggest this? This is the same guy, though, who asked

what I had eaten before my biggest attack. When I told him it was a chicken

cheesesteak he asked me if it was good and then asked me where I got it and

said that he's always interested to hear new places to go. Hello? He

knows this was the food that triggered major pain for me and he wants to know

where to get some?

I have a great deal of respect for the medical profession and I'm not one of

those who would just bash them altogether. I think there are many good

doctors out there who truly care. There are some though, who just don't seem

to think about what they are saying. And telling a patient that he/she will

be able to eat fatty foods again after surgery is just plain nuts! That

consultation with the surgeon happened before I knew what I've learned since

then and I wish I could go back and tell him what I think. The important

thing, though, is that he is definitely not getting my gallbladder!

[Guest guest]

Hi

I'm glad I was able to provide a needed laugh. Forgive me if you've

already shared this, but what type of cleanse are you doing? You mentioned

you are on the 3rd morning. Whatever you are doing, I wish you the best

with it.

in health,

In a message dated 1/6/02 1:38:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,

conniechristian@... writes:

> , thanks for the laugh, I needed one this

> morning (the 3rd morning of my cleanse). I can't

> believe the doc. ask you where he could get the

> cheesy chickensteak...What was he thinking. " I would

> like to have an attack too " ...It just cracked me up

> for some reason. Good luck to you. Conniechristian

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Just wanted to comment on something you said:

" And telling a patient that he/she will be able to eat fatty foods

again after surgery is just plain nuts! "

I'm thinking you didn't mean all fatty foods, just eating the wrong

kind of fatty foods. Right? Because we need fat in our diets, with or

without our GB. One thing I noticed, early after GB surgery, was that

any fair amount of fat in my diet made me gassy. Once I started the

liver cleanses, and added the " good " fat to my diet, like flax seed

oil, I haven't had any digestive problems at all. I've heard and read

that I should cut out dairy, but I still have skim milk (organic) in my

cereal (avoiding soy milk at the moment), a little cream (organic) in

my coffee, and I have maybe 1/2 cup of organic ice cream once in a

while. I eat eggs too. I've cut out most of the butter in my diet, but

I cheat once in a while. None of this seems to bother me, digestively

anyway. If I have to cut out dairy, there's going to be a hole in my

diet that I'll have to fill.

Good luck with your 6th cleanse today!

Adrienne

--- Rachd1961@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/5/02 5:25:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> usanalife@... writes:

>

>

> > Just find that really interesting. One says I can eat anything even

>

> > junk food and the other says that if I want to stay healthy than I

> > need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can guess who cares more

> > about me.

> >

>

> I've often wondered about this, too. The surgeon that I met with

> also said

> that after surgery I would be able to eat anything I wanted. Why on

> earth

> would ANY doctor even suggest this? This is the same guy, though,

> who asked

> what I had eaten before my biggest attack. When I told him it was a

> chicken

> cheesesteak he asked me if it was good and then asked me where I got

> it and

> said that he's always interested to hear new places to go. Hello?

> He

> knows this was the food that triggered major pain for me and he wants

> to know

> where to get some?

>

> I have a great deal of respect for the medical profession and I'm

> not one of

> those who would just bash them altogether. I think there are many

> good

> doctors out there who truly care. There are some though, who just

> don't seem

> to think about what they are saying. And telling a patient that

> he/she will

> be able to eat fatty foods again after surgery is just plain nuts!

> That

> consultation with the surgeon happened before I knew what I've

> learned since

> then and I wish I could go back and tell him what I think. The

> important

> thing, though, is that he is definitely not getting my gallbladder!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, thanks for the laugh, I needed one this

morning (the 3rd morning of my cleanse). I can't

believe the doc. ask you where he could get the

cheesy chickensteak...What was he thinking. " I would

like to have an attack too " ...It just cracked me up

for some reason. Good luck to you. Conniechristian

--- Rachd1961@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/5/02 5:25:36 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> usanalife@... writes:

>

>

> > Just find that really interesting. One says I can

> eat anything even

> > junk food and the other says that if I want to

> stay healthy than I

> > need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can

> guess who cares more

> > about me.

> >

>

> I've often wondered about this, too. The surgeon

> that I met with also said

> that after surgery I would be able to eat anything I

> wanted. Why on earth

> would ANY doctor even suggest this? This is the

> same guy, though, who asked

> what I had eaten before my biggest attack. When I

> told him it was a chicken

> cheesesteak he asked me if it was good and then

> asked me where I got it and

> said that he's always interested to hear new places

> to go. Hello? He

> knows this was the food that triggered major pain

> for me and he wants to know

> where to get some?

>

> I have a great deal of respect for the medical

> profession and I'm not one of

> those who would just bash them altogether. I think

> there are many good

> doctors out there who truly care. There are some

> though, who just don't seem

> to think about what they are saying. And telling a

> patient that he/she will

> be able to eat fatty foods again after surgery is

> just plain nuts! That

> consultation with the surgeon happened before I knew

> what I've learned since

> then and I wish I could go back and tell him what I

> think. The important

> thing, though, is that he is definitely not getting

> my gallbladder!

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Adrienne, your message was encouraging to me. I'm

new to all this good stuff. I had an attack about two

weeks ago, went to the hosp. Have stones...Now I'm

doing a cleanse. I know I am going to have to change

my eating habits and I already have. Actually for now

and the next 7 days I'm not eating much, just juicing

and doing the cleanse. Today I get a salad, yes!!! A

friend of mine who is a vegetarian (completely) is

helping me out and I feel that I am in good hands. I

like to hear what people are eating because I know

that will be me when this cleanse is over. I get

gassy too so maybe I'll try the flax seeds or oil.

Which is best??? Thanks again. Conniechristian

--- Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@...>

wrote:

> Hi ,

> Just wanted to comment on something you said:

> " And telling a patient that he/she will be able to

> eat fatty foods

> again after surgery is just plain nuts! "

> I'm thinking you didn't mean all fatty foods, just

> eating the wrong

> kind of fatty foods. Right? Because we need fat in

> our diets, with or

> without our GB. One thing I noticed, early after GB

> surgery, was that

> any fair amount of fat in my diet made me gassy.

> Once I started the

> liver cleanses, and added the " good " fat to my diet,

> like flax seed

> oil, I haven't had any digestive problems at all.

> I've heard and read

> that I should cut out dairy, but I still have skim

> milk (organic) in my

> cereal (avoiding soy milk at the moment), a little

> cream (organic) in

> my coffee, and I have maybe 1/2 cup of organic ice

> cream once in a

> while. I eat eggs too. I've cut out most of the

> butter in my diet, but

> I cheat once in a while. None of this seems to

> bother me, digestively

> anyway. If I have to cut out dairy, there's going to

> be a hole in my

> diet that I'll have to fill.

> Good luck with your 6th cleanse today!

> Adrienne

>

> --- Rachd1961@... wrote:

> > In a message dated 1/5/02 5:25:36 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> > usanalife@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Just find that really interesting. One says I

> can eat anything even

> >

> > > junk food and the other says that if I want to

> stay healthy than I

> > > need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can

> guess who cares more

> > > about me.

> > >

> >

> > I've often wondered about this, too. The surgeon

> that I met with

> > also said

> > that after surgery I would be able to eat anything

> I wanted. Why on

> > earth

> > would ANY doctor even suggest this? This is the

> same guy, though,

> > who asked

> > what I had eaten before my biggest attack. When I

> told him it was a

> > chicken

> > cheesesteak he asked me if it was good and then

> asked me where I got

> > it and

> > said that he's always interested to hear new

> places to go. Hello?

> > He

> > knows this was the food that triggered major pain

> for me and he wants

> > to know

> > where to get some?

> >

> > I have a great deal of respect for the medical

> profession and I'm

> > not one of

> > those who would just bash them altogether. I

> think there are many

> > good

> > doctors out there who truly care. There are some

> though, who just

> > don't seem

> > to think about what they are saying. And telling

> a patient that

> > he/she will

> > be able to eat fatty foods again after surgery is

> just plain nuts!

> > That

> > consultation with the surgeon happened before I

> knew what I've

> > learned since

> > then and I wish I could go back and tell him what

> I think. The

> > important

> > thing, though, is that he is definitely not

> getting my gallbladder!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Hi , I don't know if this cleanse has a name.

My friend gave it me and she got it from a friend who

went somewhere for a cleanse (if that makes sense).

Lots of water...This intestinal stuff with grape juice

2 or 3 times a day. Veg. juice. Today I put orance

juice,water,garlic,ginger,tsp. olive oil in the

blender and drank quick. More grape juice and today I

get a salad. On the fifth day I will be doing the

lemon juice and olive oil (gallbladder cleanse). I

guess I am working on the liver for now and preparing

the gallbladder for the big day. Hope it works. I

will go through it and then let you know how it goes.

I will type it out for you then. Maybe I can find

sometihng like it on the internet. I'll check for

you. Talk to you soon. Connie

--- Rachd1961@... wrote:

> Hi

> I'm glad I was able to provide a needed laugh.

> Forgive me if you've

> already shared this, but what type of cleanse are

> you doing? You mentioned

> you are on the 3rd morning. Whatever you are

> doing, I wish you the best

> with it.

> in health,

>

>

> In a message dated 1/6/02 1:38:48 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> conniechristian@... writes:

>

>

> > , thanks for the laugh, I needed one this

> > morning (the 3rd morning of my cleanse). I can't

> > believe the doc. ask you where he could get the

> > cheesy chickensteak...What was he thinking. " I

> would

> > like to have an attack too " ...It just cracked me

> up

> > for some reason. Good luck to you.

> Conniechristian

> >

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Connie,

I don't know which is best, but I use the flax seed oil. Dale has

posted some really good info about what he eats to aid the digestive

process(he posted one today), one of them is lecithin. I'm still

learning myself. Still haven't read Dr. Cabot's book, but I'm

going to soon (hopefully!)

Adrienne :-)

--- connie green <conniechristian@...> wrote:

> Hi Adrienne, your message was encouraging to me. I'm

> new to all this good stuff. I had an attack about two

> weeks ago, went to the hosp. Have stones...Now I'm

> doing a cleanse. I know I am going to have to change

> my eating habits and I already have. Actually for now

> and the next 7 days I'm not eating much, just juicing

> and doing the cleanse. Today I get a salad, yes!!! A

> friend of mine who is a vegetarian (completely) is

> helping me out and I feel that I am in good hands. I

> like to hear what people are eating because I know

> that will be me when this cleanse is over. I get

> gassy too so maybe I'll try the flax seeds or oil.

> Which is best??? Thanks again. Conniechristian

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/6/02 7:32:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

barry91162@... writes:

> Some of us are not going to become true

> vegitarians and I think that eating all foods is exceptable if it is

> in the proper lower percentage, moderated, dieted amounts.

>

>

I agree, Barry. As they say, all things in moderation, including

moderation.

[Guest guest]

I have read that you could eat fatty foods if only it is in

moderation. Moderation is always the key word. I have read that you

could eat 20% of fatty foods but not the 75% that us lazy eaters were

used to in our past lives. Whereas a great balanced diet is the goal,

we still need essential fats in our system to some degree.

The GB really does work properly when it is excreting bile in the

proper preportions. Some of us are not going to become true

vegitarians and I think that eating all foods is exceptable if it is

in the proper lower percentage, moderated, dieted amounts.

Just my thoughts.

Barry.

> In a message dated 1/5/02 5:25:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> usanalife@j... writes:

>

>

> > Just find that really interesting. One says I can eat anything

even

> > junk food and the other says that if I want to stay healthy than

I

> > need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can guess who cares

more

> > about me.

> >

>

> I've often wondered about this, too. The surgeon that I met with

also said

> that after surgery I would be able to eat anything I wanted. Why

on earth

> would ANY doctor even suggest this? This is the same guy, though,

who asked

> what I had eaten before my biggest attack. When I told him it was

a chicken

> cheesesteak he asked me if it was good and then asked me where I

got it and

> said that he's always interested to hear new places to go.

Hello? He

> knows this was the food that triggered major pain for me and he

wants to know

> where to get some?

>

> I have a great deal of respect for the medical profession and I'm

not one of

> those who would just bash them altogether. I think there are many

good

> doctors out there who truly care. There are some though, who just

don't seem

> to think about what they are saying. And telling a patient that

he/she will

> be able to eat fatty foods again after surgery is just plain

nuts! That

> consultation with the surgeon happened before I knew what I've

learned since

> then and I wish I could go back and tell him what I think. The

important

> thing, though, is that he is definitely not getting my

gallbladder!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>>In fact I found out my cousin had hers taken out and they found that

it was perfectly healthy. All the Dr. could say was " I guess that

wasn't the problem " <<

This IS a problem. Most doctors do tend to eliminate the possibility of

gallbladder problems, by removing the gallbladder. And if that isn't the

problem to begin with..........Oh well!

I was fortunate in that my GI went the other way, and told me not to even

consider surgery until other possibilities had bee eliminated. I did a

while on strong antacids, to see if it was reflux. He wanted to be

absolutely certain that it wasn't bile duct spasms (forget what it's called)

also. He had my enzymes checked during an attack, and since they were

normal, he felt at first that it really might not be my gallbladder causing

the problems. I was lucky, because he definitely thought that yanking the

gallbladder as a first move was stupid.

Debra

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[Guest guest]

>>And telling a patient that he/she will

be able to eat fatty foods again after surgery is just plain nuts!<<

My surgeon told me to take it slowly. I didn't exactly listen. I was

eating whatever I wanted the next day. I try to avoid a lot of fatty foods

just so that I won't gain a ton of weight, but I can eat anything with no

problems, and I eat pizza about once a week.

Debra

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[Guest guest]

> I have read that you could eat fatty foods if only it is in

> moderation. Moderation is always the key word. I have read that you

> could eat 20% of fatty foods but not the 75% that us lazy eaters

were used to in our past lives.

I was raised by parents that took eating healthy really seriously. We

hand not added fat or salt to our diets. Raised on whole wheat and

honey non of that refined crap. So I know I wasn't eating 75% fat

before I had my problems. I was a very big meal skipper and prefered

to not eat for days. Was told that is what caused most my problems.

I totally think that balance is the key but also know there is a

difference in what some think is a balanced/healthy diet. For some

's is healthy and to others total organic.

I've just noticed that the medical Dr.s I've encounter have no

problem with people eating fast foods as there daily intack where as

the alternative health Dr's prefer you to eat much more natural

things.

D.

[Guest guest]

> I've often wondered about this, too. The surgeon that I met with

also said> that after surgery I would be able to eat anything I

wanted. Why on earth> would ANY doctor even suggest this? This is

the same guy, though, who asked what I had eaten before my biggest

attack. When I told him it was a chicken cheesesteak he asked me if

it was good and then asked me where I got it and

> said that he's always interested to hear new places to go

If it was my Chiropractor he would have Harassed me and asked why I

ate that.

My Surgeon was actually surprised at what I ate (my rice and stir fry

with a little good oil and homemade no fat sweet and sour sauce.

He said usually it's the Mexican dinners that does it. I knew it was

the sweet and sour sauce cause for some reason the red wine vinager

does that to me.

It's been about 15 months since that night and the surgery and I

still haven't had that meal. It was a pretty horrid attack.

D

[Guest guest]

> This IS a problem. Most doctors do tend to eliminate the

possibility of

> gallbladder problems, by removing the gallbladder. And if that

isn't the

> problem to begin with..........Oh well!

>

> I was fortunate in that my GI went the other way, and told me not

to even

> consider surgery until other possibilities had bee eliminated.

I'm starting to think it has something to do with Dr.s here in the

midwest. In my state alone if a women even tells her Dr. she's tired

he automatically prescribes prozac or another antidepressant. It's

pretty sad. I have Aunt's that work for Dr's one is a nurse and they

said they see medical mishaps all the time here.

Thing is with my cousin, from what she discribed it didn't even sound

like gallbladder problems to me. More like female problems.

That's probably why I get so frustrated with Dr's out here.

Diane

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your story. Unfortunately it's not the first one I've

heard like that. What area are you referring to?

> She just needs to wait till everything inside is completely healed

if

> she's had recent surgery.

>

> I wanted to do a cleanse afterwards but I was so sick from my

surgery

> that I was told not to for a long time. It's been 15 months now and

> I'm finally to the point that I can get the go ahead to do one. Long

> story.

>

> I personally think most the Dr's in my area are just not very good

> cause I haven't found one person near me that is happy with the

> results of their surgery and fill like it took care of the problem.

>

> In fact I found out my cousin had hers taken out and they found that

> it was perfectly healthy. All the Dr. could say was " I guess that

> wasn't the problem " she didn't think it was and when she first

> started complaining they tried to put her on an anti depressant. She

> finally found a decent Dr out of state that was able to do the right

> surgery. Turned out her uterus was turning into a sponge.

>

> So if I seem a little upset with the medical profession It's because

> in my state most of them don't seem to know what they're doing. It's

> like they got their degree out of a cracker box.

>

> My Chiropractor knows more about the body, nutrition and health than

> these guys.

>

> I found it really interesting that when I go to my Chiro's office

> they are snacking on dried fruit, nuts, water and when I had to

> return several times to the Galbladder specialist and walk through

> the office they had fries, burgers and pop. He's also a specialist

in

> the removal of the colon. Gee I wonder why?

>

> Just find that really interesting. One says I can eat anything even

> junk food and the other says that if I want to stay healthy than I

> need to make sure I'm eating healthy. You can guess who cares more

> about me.

>

> Also the galbladder specialist turned me away after 5 weeks. I woke

> up in pain in my liver area from the surgery and they wouldn't

> acknowledge it. Finally told me it had nothing to do with surgery

and

> that I needed to find another DR.

>

> It's suspected that he nicked my liver or cracked a rib from the

pain

> I was in and taking 6 weeks to heal. (I've been talking to lots of

> people since than and found others with the same experience)

>

> Okay sorry to go on. I just get so burned hearing stories like my

> cousin and that is so common in my area

> Diane