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I wonder what kind of a dose you would take of the dm

cough syrup?

--- DudleyDelany@... wrote:

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Dextromethorphan (DM) is the active ingredient in

> " DM Cough Syrup, " an

> inexpensive, non-prescription cough medicine

> available at most drug

> stores.

>

> It turns out that--like LDN--DM is an opioid

> receptor antagonist. Now

> there is evidence that it may also act in a manner

> similar to LDN to

> control symptoms of multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's

> disease, and other

> common afflictions.

>

> For more information, visit

>

>

http://www.webspawner.com/users/dmsubforldn/index.html

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

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>

> It depends on what brand of DM cough syrup you buy. They are not all

> identical in terms of DM concentration.

>What is this replacement for LDN ? I know what DM cough syrup is.

Explain to me the DM concentraton variance. What is the best brands

to buy?

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Explain the variance in DM? Some brands have more DM per ml of cough

syrup than others.

This is the brand I recommend:

http://tinyurl.com/2oq495

You get the most DM with the least amount of inactive ingredients.

Just 1.5 ml yields 4.5 mg of DM.

I would begin with .5 ml, increase it after a weeks to 1 ml, and then

after a few more weeks to 1.5 ml. You may want to stay at .5 or 1 ml,

depending on how it goes and what results and side effects you are

seeing (if any).

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>Thanks for doing great detective work Dudley!

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> Dextromethorphan (DM) is the active ingredient in " DM Cough Syrup, "

an

> inexpensive, non-prescription cough medicine available at most drug

> stores.

>

> It turns out that--like LDN--DM is an opioid receptor antagonist.

Now

> there is evidence that it may also act in a manner similar to LDN to

> control symptoms of multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, and

other

> common afflictions.

>

> For more information, visit

>

> http://www.webspawner.com/users/dmsubforldn/index.html

>

> With best wishes,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

>

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Hi Tom,

I am not the first to notice the relationship between DM and LDN.

Rather, it has been a matter of discussion from time to time at perhaps

the largest LDN Yahoo! group on the Internet:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lowdosenaltrexone

My website just builds on the LDN-related posts there. However, it does

include a very recent study in which DM was used successfully to treat

the symptom of inappropriate laughing and crying that occurs in some

cases of MS. In addition, it gives a specific DM-containing product

recommendation and suggests a possible dosage.

All the best,

Dudley Delany

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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>Either way, I appreciate your efforts and diligence.

>

> Hi Tom,

>

> I am not the first to notice the relationship between DM and LDN.

>

> Rather, it has been a matter of discussion from time to time at

perhaps

> the largest LDN Yahoo! group on the Internet:

>

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lowdosenaltrexone

>

> My website just builds on the LDN-related posts there. However, it

does

> include a very recent study in which DM was used successfully to

treat

> the symptom of inappropriate laughing and crying that occurs in some

> cases of MS. In addition, it gives a specific DM-containing product

> recommendation and suggests a possible dosage.

>

> All the best,

>

> Dudley Delany

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

>

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That was the old codeine-based medications; Dextromethorphan

is even worse: http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/drug_guide/DXM

Always full of cheer,

love,

n

-------------- Original message --------------

From: Ambitionn01@...

Dear Dudley:

You know, I have heard of people being addicted to cough syrup. I wonder if

this opioid connection is why.

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We do not differ, Dudley, if you read the article at the link that I sent

(unless

I really goofed, and failed to send it); Dextromethorphan is an hallucinogenic.

It IS subject to abuse, but not classically addictive in precisely the same

sense

as the formerly used codeine. Dextromethorphan is a menace, which I thought

I made clear in my pust. Neither drug should be sold OTC anyway! I just

LOVE the way they are so dilligent (NOT!) about labelling these products

and giving us such complete information. You are correct, and I am not disa

greeing with you, just assumed that another person who posted was referring

to Codeine which is a classic addictive medication; this one is worse, actually,

in my view!

Cheers your way, Dudley,

with love to all in our group,

n, not always clarion, but then not a librarian

-------------- Original message --------------

From: DudleyDelany@...

I beg to differ, n. That was NOT the old codeien-based medications.

That WAS and IS DM. This link should set you straight:

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/drugs_concern/dextro_m/dextro_m.htm

Love and kisses,

Dudley

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Dudley, definitely " got it! "

Nighty-Night,

n

-------------- Original message --------------

From: DudleyDelany@...

Hi n,

Like most things, DM is a menace ONLY if misused. If something has the

potentuial for good, it also has the potential for evil--IF MISUSED.

Got it?

Dudley

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Hi Natrite,

I am still taking LDN. Maybe when it runs out, I'll try DM. Still

haven't decided.

I put my MS into remission about a decade ago using a treatment

suggested by Edgar Cayce. For more information, read my free online book

at

http://www.webspawner.com/users/multscler2/index.html

You can see all that I currently do to keep my MS in remission by

visiting

http://tinyurl.com/grpm9

All the best,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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Hi Dudley,

I was curious why you decided to take LDN sice you had already been in

remission so long. Just added insurance?

>

>

> Hi Natrite,

>

> I am still taking LDN. Maybe when it runs out, I'll try DM. Still

> haven't decided.

>

> I put my MS into remission about a decade ago using a treatment

>

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dudley, i think you're being a bit judgmental. many others on this

list have had bad experiences with LDN, myself included. at

the " miniscule " dosage of 4.5 mg, after 3 days my body was hard as a

rock, so spastic i was no longer sleeping, and thus had to forgo the

pleasure of all those lucid nightmares (the logical conclusion of

which, i imagine, could well be waking hallucinations). even bringing

it down to 1.5 was not working out well for me, and eventually i had

to stop.

assuming that there is a miracle cure-all that works for everyone is

big pharma-think. i'm surprised that so many on this list indulge in

it to the point of insulting and scaring off others who were just

trying to bring their POV to shed more light on the issue--hardly,

imho, an unwelcome gesture.

peace,

aviva

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Hi Aviva,

You're perfectly welcome to voice your POV, and no one is saying LDN

works for everyone (nor is anyone trying to insult or scare you or

anyone else off).

LDN is NOT a cure-all! It didn't work for all the Crohn's patients in

this study:

http://tinyurl.com/2urywq

But 67% complete remission of symptoms and 89% at least some improvement

is nothing to sneeze at, and when the research on LDN for MS comes out

in a few months, the results will probably be comparable.

If LDN wasn't your cup of tea, fine--there's lots of other things you

can do like diet, exercise, and detoxification that might work instead.

All the best,

Dudley Delany

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Hi ,

As I stated in a recent post to Arlene, I am not taking LDN for MS but

for a suspected case of prostate cancer. So far, it seems to be working.

For more information about that and about LDN as a treatment for cancer,

visit

http://tinyurl.com/2p57xv

A woman named Aletha read sixty MS-related LDN testimonials posted on a

certain website and gives her assessment of them here:

http://tinyurl.com/2boot2

She also tells how LDN greatly helped her husband's MS, not only putting

it in remission but also allowing him to function again.

The woman whose testimony appears on this site tells how LDN helped with

MS-related pain:

http://tinyurl.com/23ttu5

This site features a book by a woman whose husband's PPMS went into

remission using LDN:

http://www.marybradleybooks.com

It also tells how a relative's Parkinson's disease went into remission

using LDN.

I think you get the picture.

As I said before, LDN is NOT a cure-all, but there ARE people getting

phenomenal results with it--including me!

All the best,

Dudley

http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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Hi Dudley. I know why you take it. I want to know if YOU have seen any

results, I hope so. I don't believe studies in general. I think, being the

skeptic that I am, the studies can always be manipulated to attain the desired

results. I want to know if you have personal testimony.

DudleyDelany@... wrote:

Hi ,

As I stated in a recent post to Arlene, I am not taking LDN for MS but

for a suspected case of prostate cancer. So far, it seems to be working.

For more information about that and about LDN as a treatment for cancer,

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Mr. Dudley;

I am truly glad to hear how you put your formally diagnosed (?) case

of MS in remission with Edgar Caycee's program. It takes courage to

chart our own route when fighting MS. I am equally glad to hear how

you feel the LDN is helping with your probable case of prostate cancer.

I feel that you are quite defensive about the LDN. It seems like when

anyone questions LDN, you come at the questions with all guns blazing.

With me, it's getting to be almost a joke. Whenever anyone

questions LDN, I feel you are almost instantaneously quoting studies

in the defense of LDN. In other venues I'd suspect someone engaging

in these behaviors to be on someone's payroll.

I am truly looking forward to any robust independent study of LDN and

MS to shut the both of us up.

>

>

> Hey alrightguy,

>

> You want a clinical trial to disprove your erroneous assumption that LDN

> has more than a 30% effectiveness in treating MS? Well, you won't have

> to wait long.

>

> A clinical trial of Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) for MS is currently

> underway at the University of California's San Francisco MS Research

> Center. It is a 17-week, double-blind, crossover study involving 80

> patients. Results are expected this November. For more information about

> this clinical trial, contact Elena Kornyeyeva, M.D., Ph.D., at

>

> elena.kornyeyeva@...

>

> In addition, there is presently a multi-institutional trial of LDN for

> MS being conducted by Dr. Maira Gironi in Italy. It began in December of

> 2006 and I believe it is scheduled to end about the same time as the

> California study.

>

> There was a clinical trial in Germany of LDN for MS from October of 2004

> to April of 2005 involving 60 patients. For information about the study,

> visit

>

> http://www.klinik-dr-evers.de

>

> Regards,

>

> Dudley

>

>

> http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany

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I'm looking forward to that too (LMAO).

alrightguy123 wrote: I am truly looking forward to

any robust independent study of LDN and

MS to shut the both of us up.

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