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Swaeating sunds adrenal. On the supplements you will have to play wiotht

the dose tofind what works for you. But I am not sure a glandular will

be enough, I have not sen them really work the best for weak adrenals.

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What do I do then if my salvia didn't suggest I needed HC just a

supplememnt like licorice etc. On the 31.8.08 this was my results

8am 15 (10-28) 12pm 6 (3-15) 4pm 6 (3-15) 10pm 3 (1-5).

Urine Cortisol on the 1.12.08 was Voloume 3040 24hr

Concentration Excretion Normal/24

Urine Cortisol 122 371 (100-400)

Creatinine 3.4 10.3 (7.0-12.5)

He's looked at both and felt HC is not needed. I don't disagree it

cortisol but what do I do about it.

I am going to try this and it's probably not the best idea but I am

going to get some empty capsules and split the 15mcg in half.

I think my doses might be too much it one it. I will ask about normal

T3 not the slow realease and see if that helps.

Thanks Margo

>

> Swaeating sunds adrenal. On the supplements you will have to play

wiotht

> the dose tofind what works for you. But I am not sure a glandular

will

> be enough, I have not sen them really work the best for weak adrenals.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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Isocort is a glandular but one that contains cortisol. and a KNO(WN

amount of cortils which most glandulars yuo may get differing amountsin

each batch or pill. They are nto STANDARDIZED where Isocort is.

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oh my gosh!! Im over hear scared into not taking too much. Is there anywhere that I can read that test?

Subject: Re: Re: What is the causeTo: RT3_T3 Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 2:11 AM

Well the company that makes isocort will tell yiou 2.45rmg per pellet. However about a thousand people's experience and one good doctor ran an independent test and it is about 1.4mg cortisl per pellet.-- Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/ http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/------------------------------------

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Nope it was oneindiividual's doctor that had an independent lab analise

it. From what I ahve seen in people's experience when they went from

Isocort to HC there is no way a pellet of Isocoret has 2.45mg Cortisll

in it. If they aswitch even doses for HC the HC ios ALOT stronger so I

believe the lab anaalysis from that doctor,.

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It is something I could try for a couple of days and see if it

helps. If it does I just might be able to convince the doc that is

what I need.

I have a little more energy this morning only I have something else

going on I think. I am in a full time cold sweat headache (mild)no

appetite. I have a kidney stone so wonder if that is causing me

troubles or that I had to be taking a morphine based pain relief

since November that I am addicted to and having cold turkey symptoms.

I have only taken 7.5mg T3 today and see how that dose goes for a few

days. I have had 2.5mg HC. If I have some good results I just may

be able to talk the doc round. I've got to get up and moving. It is

such a waste of life in a chair sleeping all day. I was so hoping T3

was going to be a big help to me and now I'm nothing again. I've got

to try something. At least I can afford the HC when I can get it. I

do have the adrenal cortex coming so I could take that over when it

arrives. Had no idea it was different to Isocort. It's going to be

really expensive too.

I look back to when I weaned off HC for testing how mornings were

becoming difficult to get up. Back then if I had have just done the

RT3 test and stayed on HC things might be quite different.

Margo

>

> Margo before I could recommend starting HC you need to make certain

you

> have a steady supply of it. It can be dangerous to jst stop HC if

yiu

> run out so please tell me you cna order it online or get it from a

> doctor before you start a program to take ti every day. Once oyu

start

> taking HC your body WILL become dependent on it and it can be a

bugger

> to get off of it if your adrenals are nto ready to return to doing

> things themselves.

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

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I always thought it was morphine based but now I don't think so. I

works similar to morphine though. There is Oxycontin which is slow

release and Oxynorm instant release. I've been taking both only

dropped the oxcontin sometime ago and just kept up with the Oxynorm

and took them when the pain hit, usually every tweleve hours. I

don't understand what it is really. The are so many drug terms in it

I don't know about. If they are codine based then that would be

handy to know.

Very interesting about what it does to the cortisol levels. I

actually had my saliva don't sometime prior to oxycontin though. I

think perhaps for that spell of being on no Thyroid med may have tip

the balance and I just need a pick me up for a time to get on the

right track.

I didn't take any HC before bed last night and have not woke like a

box of fluffys like I did yesterday. Might try 5mg tonight and see

if I get the same result. I wonder if sleeping tablets have an

effect on cortisol. I take zopiclone. If I don't take them I am

most night pinging off the walls. If that is a problem for cortisol

I'll do my best to get off them too. Now is a good time while I am

not at work. I may just have the flu I don't honestly know, but the

oxycontin road I don't want to go down again. I think if I can get

the kidney stone out it will help and should need nothing for the

pain. Normally when I have a flare of pain it's only a couple of

days but it's been on going since November and now pain wise I don't

feel I need such hard pain relief and just stopped them. Could be a

big whoops.

The panadeine forte you take does that have codine in it. I take

Neurophen Plus which each tablet has 12.5mg codine and I take two but

it does nothing for my kidney pain. Great for headaches I guess. Not

taking them whilst on the oxy meds though.

Pleased the shots have helped you Cat. Not so good the crap you had

to go through in getting them though.

Margo

> > >

> > > You poor dear! The HC might help you with detox support and

you

> > can

> > > try it for a couple of days and see. No harm in this that I

see.

> > It

> > > does take a lot of time to work up and through issues, so put

your

> > > long distance gear on. There'll be lots a sight seeing along

the

> > > way. But you'll be better for it when you arrive. A new

person!

> > >

> > > AG

> > >

> > > Posted by: " free2ridejones " blairs3@ free2ridejones

> > > Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:51 pm (PST)

> > >

> > > It is something I could try for a couple of days and see if it

> > > helps. If it does I just might be able to convince the doc that

is

> > > what I need.

> > >

> > > I have a little more energy this morning only I have something

else

> > > going on I think. I am in a full time cold sweat headache (mild)

no

> > > appetite. I have a kidney stone so wonder if that is causing me

> > > troubles or that I had to be taking a morphine based pain relief

> > > since November that I am addicted to and having cold turkey

> > symptoms.

> > >

> > > I have only taken 7.5mg T3 today and see how that dose goes for

a

> > few

> > > days. I have had 2.5mg HC. If I have some good results I just

may

> > > be able to talk the doc round. I've got to get up and moving.

It is

> > > such a waste of life in a chair sleeping all day. I was so

hoping T3

> > > was going to be a big help to me and now I'm nothing again.

I've got

> > > to try something. At least I can afford the HC when I can get

it. I

> > > do have the adrenal cortex coming so I could take that over

when it

> > > arrives. Had no idea it was different to Isocort. It's going to

be

> > > really expensive too.

> > >

> > > I look back to when I weaned off HC for testing how mornings

were

> > > becoming difficult to get up. Back then if I had have just done

the

> > > RT3 test and stayed on HC things might be quite different.

> > >

> > > Margo

> > >

> >

>

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