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Hi,

You're right, not everyone will be able to save their GB by doing the

liver cleanse. Sometimes it's too late. I think I might have been able

to, if only I'd had the information in time. Friends and family scared

me by saying I could die if I didn't have my GB removed, and I

personally know someone like you, who almost died because his

gallbladder burst, emptying poison into his body. Thanks for posting

your symptoms prior to surgery, which I know will be helpful to others

who are considering surgery motivated by fear rather than knowledge.

The other thing I heard from medical sources, before I had surgery, was

that my problem was basically " incurable. " That is, I would continue to

make stones, they would continue to cause problems, and eventually I

would end up in a terrible situation. I'm thankful too, for the

information I've gained from this board. Hopefully, in time, the word

will get out.

Adrienne

--- amiboringyou01118us <amiboringyou01118us@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

> While I've been reading and reading and doing a lot of research

> trying to sort out the details of what my priorities should be in

> doing the flush. I truly believe this is a good preventitive measure

>

> and I'm going to do this flush as soon as I'm finished with my

> parasite removal program and kidney flush.

> What I wanted to emphasise to those who still have their gall bladder

>

> and are experiencing attacks...PLEASE...PLEASE, have yourself

> examined first to see just how serious the gall bladder is damaged.

> The reason I'm focusing on this is not to scare anyone, but I endured

>

> attack after attack until one day I almost died. Many times and in

> many cases the gall bladder can be flushed and cleaned out...but

> everyone is different and needs to be examined to see if the gall

> bladder can actaully be saved. In my case, the gall bladder had been

>

> infected for so long that I became jaundice. The infection had

> spread throughout my body becoming systemic. It was too late for me,

>

> the gall bladder had become so full of pus that the surgeon had to

> remove it in pieces and my heart stopped twice on the operating

> table.

> I know that there are some good doctors out there...I had one, he was

>

> a Christian and prayed with me before surgery...I'm not trying to

> bible thump here...grin...but there is a healing God who cares.

> There are many wonderful compassionate caring people on this list

> that I've noticed...and with good advice.

> Please do not wait and keep enduring the attacks like I did...Find

> out as much as you can, read all the information that is available

> and make sure to have yourself examined by a doctor who has a good

> reputation and is a specialist in this area. Don't go to just any

> doctor, make phone calls and find out who is the best. My doctor did

>

> suggest a flush...and I ignored him...shame on me!

> This is the best place that I've found for information so far...I

> thank all of you so very much for this place and your testimonies.

> I'm beginning the process, and will keep everyone updated like I

> said. Here are some signs and syptoms I had just before my last

> attack that required removal of the infected gall bladder:

>

> My skin became dark looking like I needed to wash it, and it wouldn't

>

> come clean.

> Eyes began to have a yellowish appearance

> tired all the time

> infections in the lungs, sinuses, asthma symptoms

> allergies seemed to get worse

> heart burn, pain and indigestion after meals

> irregular menstrual cycle

> attacks that mimicked heart attacks, with a belting pain around the

> upper torso of the body front and back

> jaundice with systemic infection throughout the body

> immune system was broken down and unable to fight off flu and colds

>

> I still have many of these symptoms, though not quite as severe. I'm

>

> sure it's because I need to do the flush. My immune system seems to

> still be sluggish in fighting off infections and flu symptoms. I'm

> so thankful I found this site with so much information that confirms

> that this liver flush is the best preventitive measure to preserve

> your gall bladder and boost your immune system.

> I've just went through a month of trying to fight off a sinus and

> lung infection. I'm off the antibiotics now and on my way to doing

> the parasite removal program.

> I hope that this information will help those like myself in search of

>

> a wellness program that actually works. I wish you all success and

> healing.

>

> Terry D.

>

>

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Terry,

Sorry for your tough experience.

I wanted to say that I don't consider sharing the fact that your surgeon

prayed with you to be " bible thumping. " I think it was probably extremely

comforting, and greatly affected your mental attitude, to know that someone

who shared your faith was caring for you. You were just sharing part of

your experience, and I am glad that it was part of your experience. Bible

thumping is stating a matter of faith, as a matter of fact. I respect

people's faith (even though I do not share it) and believe that it can help

them through a lot.

Did you by any chance have a cholangiogram during surgery? Are you sure all

the stones were removed from the ducts? With a problem as severe as yours

was, it seems very likely that you may have had some there.

Best wishes for regaining health,

Debra

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So Debra, You have had your gallbladder taken out?

I'm sorry I don't understand. I am new here. I've

had one gallbladder attack and few tummy aches. I am

doing a cleanse today. (starting today). I have not

gone to the doc. only the emergency hosp. once. My

attack lasted 25 min., but I was gassy for two days

and tummy very stiff. I have quit eating mean and

dairy for 5 days or so now. Feeling pretty good. I

hate going to the doc. becuase they give you such a

run around. I have not found one I like yet. Hope

and pray I'm doing the right thing. Thanks for

hanging around to help others. God bless you.

Conniechristian

--- D B <fairyflight@...> wrote:

>

>

> Terry,

>

> Sorry for your tough experience.

>

> I wanted to say that I don't consider sharing the

> fact that your surgeon

> prayed with you to be " bible thumping. " I think it

> was probably extremely

> comforting, and greatly affected your mental

> attitude, to know that someone

> who shared your faith was caring for you. You were

> just sharing part of

> your experience, and I am glad that it was part of

> your experience. Bible

> thumping is stating a matter of faith, as a matter

> of fact. I respect

> people's faith (even though I do not share it) and

> believe that it can help

> them through a lot.

>

> Did you by any chance have a cholangiogram during

> surgery? Are you sure all

> the stones were removed from the ducts? With a

> problem as severe as yours

> was, it seems very likely that you may have had some

> there.

>

> Best wishes for regaining health,

> Debra

>

>

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Terry, thanks so much for sharing your story and joining us. You have

reaffirmed why I am doing this before things get worse.

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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In a message dated 1/4/02 10:11:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

cozad76078@... writes:

> Terry, thanks so much for sharing your story and joining us. You have

> reaffirmed why I am doing this before things get worse.

Ditto. :) I couldn't have said it any better. It's easy for me to get off

track and get back into old habits and posts like that one, Terry, are what

help keep me going in the right direction. So thanks. :)

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>>So Debra, You have had your gallbladder taken out? <<

Yes, over a year ago?

You are doing the right thing by exploring your options. Although your

pains are annoying, to say the least, unless you are experiencing fevers or

jaundice, it is more than likely not any sort of life-threatening condition.

You probably have plenty of time to try to restore health to your

gallbladder, and you will garner much information from the folks on this

list.

If you have any questions regarding surgery, feel free to e-mail me off

list.

Best of luck in your quest for good health,

Debra

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