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Hi Jeanne Ann,

I had not heard of NAHD until you asked the question, so I did some

research. Bottom line--you get this chemical from eating red meat. (It

stands for Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide). Also, they recommend that

you take it on an empty stomach, so it does not seem logical that an

isolated chemical like this would be of any benefit all by itself. The

benefit in food over supplements is that you have many other nutrients in

the food which are likely to be a more complete formulation.

Also, I'd be wary of any supplement which claims to be good for so many

diseases. The literature on NAHD claims to be curative for Parkinson's,

Alzheimer's, chronic fatigue, depression, low energy, etc., etc., etc. If

it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I'd save my money and just

eat some red meat--that also gives you B 12 and we know that's good.

Dolores

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> Does anyone know anything about NADH for energy? Jeanne Ann Neff

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Jeanne Ann:

Day three of the pill, still no change in how I feel!

Rita

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Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

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Rita,

The mouth (me) is back. My mother often says " Sometimes, it's not what you

say, but what you don't say " ...I find NADH to work the same way. It's not

what I am feeling, it is what I'm not feeling (tired, to the point of

collapsing). Like G., I really did not think I was feeling anything

" big " , " great " , " WOWish " , but suddenly realized I was doing more for longer

periods of time. I made do-nuts and took them to work warm this morning!

Now, tell me this stuff don't work!!!! I don't imagine I am going to be

running any marathons but I can get ready for work without a couple of rest

breaks. And life is good. I guess I have been taking mine for about three

weeks. Every once in awhile when I know I am going to have a lazy day I

just don't take any pills. Makes them lasy longer and cuts the cost. I

would not suggest skipping any prescription medicine but see no problem with

the supplemental stuff. Works for me.

Ronnie Grove

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> Jeanne Ann:

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> Day three of the pill, still no change in how I feel!

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> Rita

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> Some people succeed in spite of their handicap. Others succeed because

> of them.

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Ronnie:

The " MOUTH " , I don't think so. I am so glad your back, gotta get this

gag going again, especially C. he has been very quiet, I think he

is in hibernation.

I also noticed (getting back to NAHD), that I am able to fall asleep

without taking a sleeping pill (which I was taking every night). I just

feel normal, when it's time to go to sleep, and I go right off. I will

keep taking them, I won't skip, I want to take them for the full 30 days

so I can fully see how my body reacts to them.

While I think of it, who is going to plan our upcoming get together?

Seems to me (Mike) that someone should get the ball rolling, any

volunteer's? Lets get it going.

Welcome back Ronnie.

Rita

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;LINDA,

YOU KNOW I WORK IN A NURSING HOME AND MUST MAINTAIN MY CERTIFICATION AS A PATIENT CARE TECHNICIAN (NURSES AID). WE USE TO LIFT PEOPLE WHO WERE UNABLE TO STAND BY HAND. WE DO NOT DO THAT ANY MORE.

I COST TO MANY OF US OUR BACKS. (MINE IS ONE). WE NOW USE HOYER LIFTS. WE USE TWO PEOPLE ON A LIFT ONLY FOR SAFETY AND BALANCE. IT CAN BE DONE BY ONE. BEFORE GIVING UP STAYING AT HOME CHECK WITH A MEDICAL SUPPLY STORE IN YOUR ARIA AND YOUR DR. ALSO CHECK INTO HOME HEALTH CARE. AN HOUR OR TWO A DAY CAN MAKE SUCH A DIFFERENCE. PLEASE LOOK AT ALL YOUR OPTIONS BEFORE GOING INTO A NURSING HOME.

TALK TO YOUR LOCAL HOSPITAL'S HOME COORDINATOR AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER OR WHERE SHE CAN DIRECT YOU IN YOUR ARIA. GOOD LUCK

BONNIE & DON

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Kathy, I have pretty much the same problems. I can walk to the bathroom and my bedroom with a walker, but for anything else I must use a wheelchair. I have trouble holding things, can barely write and have trouble getting up out of chairs. I will soon have to get a lift chair and if I ever get to the point where I can't walk at all, I will have to go into a nursing home. My parents take care of me and they can't lift on me, so I pray that I can continue to walk short distances with a walker. My children both live in different states and would take care of me if needed, but it would be to hard lifting. I seem to have gone downhill quite fast, but I will not give up. A.

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kathy,

THANK YOU I NEEDED THAT.

BONNIE

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> I had some free time, so what did I do?

> I checked the computer to see if I'd heard from you.

> I used to walk out to a box to retrieve mail

> But I'd rather get it instantly than wait on the snail...

>

> Checking my email is always fun

> I usually get a joke or greeting from someone.

> I feel so blessed because on the other end

> I know I've connected with a friend.

>

> When I've had a hard day and need to share

> Here I can find a friend who will listen and care.

> And to this friend I hope I've let them know

> That I am always there for them also.

>

> Isn't it a strange kind of bond we form?

> It isn't exactly like the " norm "

> But where is it written, face to face we have to be

> For you to be a very good friend to me?

>

> That little joke, or note, or even just a simple " Hi "

> Could be like a ray of sunshine from the sky.

> So my online pals, this is dedicated to you

> For all the smiles you have made anew.

>

> May our friendship continue to grow

> and the warmth we feel continue to flow.

>

> Always remember this....

> A smile is such an easy thing

> To pass along the way,

> Like a ray of summer sunshine

> On a somewhat gloomy day.

>

> So pass one on to those you meet

> Then watch that person's face...

> And feel the warmth as it's returned;

> It's called an " E-smile embrace. "

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Kathy Hillary, How perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You made my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I put it up on my bulletin board so I can read it often. We really are blessed to have PLS-FRIENDS!!!!!! Sincerely, Clackamas, Oregon

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> To: Ann Bromley ; Barb

; Bob & Judy Whittenburg ; Bob and

Regina Pritchard ; Carolyn

Schoettmer ; Barkham

; Cheryl & Cunningham ;

; - School

; Salyers ;

Daphne A. Craft ;

Elsie M Burns ;

Hinton ; Jack & Kathy s

; Jeannette

Gropp ; Jenni & Bob Elkins

; Jim and Judy Browning ;

Joette & Tim McGowen ; Browning

; anne

Salyers ; Norma ;

Ron Burns ; Marie Von Bokern

; Mackey ; Tonya Falls

> Subject: (no subject)

> Date: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:23 PM

>

> ********* This is worth the read, It's short and to the point!

> > > Perhaps we asked the wrong questions in this election year.

> > > Our Senators and Congressmen do not pay into social security, and of

>

> > > course, therefore they do not collect from it. Social Security

> benefits

> > > were not suitable for persons of their rare elevation in society.

> They

> > > felt they should have a special plan for themselves.

> > > Many years ago they voted in their benefit plan. In more recent

> years,

> > > no congressperson has felt the need to change it. After all it is a

> > > great plan.

> > > For all practical purposes their plan works like this. When they

> retire,

> > > they continue to draw the same pay until they die, except it may

> > > increase from time to time by the cost of living adjustments.

> > > For example, Senator Byrd, and Congressman Bob White and

> their

> > > wives, may expect to draw $7,900,000.00, with their wives drawing

> > > $275,000.00 during the last years of their lives. This is calculated

> on

> > > an average lifespan for each.

> > > Their cost for this excellent plan is $ " 0 " , nada, zilch. This little

>

> > > perk

> > > they voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab

> for

> > > this plan.

> > > This fine retirement plan funds come directly from the General Funds

> --

> > > our tax dollars at work! With Social Security, which you and I pay ,

> or

> > > have paid, into every payday for our retirement, with an equal

> amount

> > > matched by our employer, we can expect to get an average of $1,000

> per

> > > month from OUR Social Security plan. Or, we would have to collect

> our

> > > benefits for 68 years and 1 month to equal retired Senator Bradley's

>

> > > benefits.

> > > Imagine for a moment that you could structure a retirement so

> desirable

> > > that people would have extra amounts deducted from their pay to

> enhance

> > > their own personal retirement income. A retirement plan that worked

> so

> > > well, that Railroad Employees, Postal Workers, and others who were

> not

> > > in the plan would clamor to be included.

> > > This is how good Social Security could be, if only one small change

> were

> > > made. That change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan

> out

> > > from under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social

> > > Security plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would

> fix

> > > it.

> > > If enough people receive this, maybe a seed will be planted, and

> maybe

> > > good changes will evolve.

> > > How many people can YOU send this to?

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 4/27/01 8:56:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, scooska@...

writes:

<< para central

protruding disk at L4-L5.

>>

Paracentral should be one word, meaning near a center, per Dorland's.

Peggy

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Hello Tim,

I am sorry to hear you have joined our

group. I had exactly the same numbers on PSA and Gleason as you when I was told

I had Pca. My tumor was also not palpable via the DRE. At the time, I was 49

years old. You should evaluate deeply all your options before making a choice

of treatment. In my case, I opted for surgery. I have been cancer free now for

close to 10 years and my last PSA (2 months ago) was undetectable. I had a very

minor level of incontinence the first month after surgery and it took about 8

months to regain full erections.

I live in Southern

California and had surgery at a relatively small local hospital.

Any questions, please do not hesitate to

contact me via the group or directly. I would be more than happy to chat on the

phone if you would like.

Your brother in arms,

From: ProstateCancerSupport [mailto:ProstateCancerSupport ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 3:42

PM

To: ProstateCancerSupport

Subject:

gleason score

My Name is Tim. I have a psa of 5.4 and a gleason score of 6. i was

wondering if this is considered localized enough for surgery . no palpable

tumour was found just some light firmness on the dre

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