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Wow Vic, what a story. It sounds like you are on your way kid. Keep up the good

work.

I'm so glad you like it here, I love it here too. Everyone is so nice and we all

get along pretty good. I know allot of groups have " flames " and arguments allot

of times but everyone here is mostly thoughtful and very supportive. I don't

think I will ever leave permanently. You guys are stuck with me. lol

Tina

my goals

I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss goals or

history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as possible.

When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me fat. I was

teased and tormented untill I was 14.

In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and recovered by

17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my senior yr in high school,

and freshmen yr of college, i was thin, but not too thin, and eating pretty

healthily.

By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I flushed all i had

learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for years was on one fad diet

or another. When i stepped on a scale i was shocked to find myself at 210

pounds and decided i couldn't go on like this. Through an (obviously) tough

struggle, and with weight watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this

group, i lost 2 more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

doctor says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a comfortable

weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28 to go!!!

thank all you for the support. I've never found people so open, helpful,

caring, and FUN!

Vic

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Hi Vic,

I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own daughter. My

daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in the

house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street. We

have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try to

keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me. She

gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of cancer

so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives her all

kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't afford

it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and notice

her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago and I

picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if she

liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My heart just

droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be silly

your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there is

more to this world then the people on her street and in her home that

love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny looks in

her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is going

to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't know if

I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to let her

see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I am

starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle with this

especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight as a

child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming from.

She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out there

riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think there is

much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it when

she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her child

through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

Michel

>

> I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

possible.

>

> When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

>

> In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin, but

not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

>

> By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I flushed

all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for years

was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a comfortable

weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28 to

go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

>

> Vic

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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Michel,

I have a 6 year old daughter with the same story. We have an

elderly lady two doors down who feeds her cookies and ice cream and

all sorts of junk and like your daughter it is starting to really

show on her. I have a really weight conscious mother who made me

feel like I was a dog if I was overweight. So I won't do that to my

daughter. This summer she was looking really chunky in her swim

suit and I decided I needed to do something, she is going to have a

problem like me if I don't start to teach her.

So we talk about healthy eating all the time and we started going on

long bike rides(she rides, I push the baby in the stroller). WE

take a water bottle and she drinks that down. I buy " treats " like

applesauce for snacks and when she really wants ice cream I give her

the serving size (1/2) cup . She is still barking about the junk

food but it is getting better. I told her that she cannot go to the

lady's house anymore and eat. If she gives her something she has to

bring it home and wait until after a meal and I measure the treat

out in the recommended serving sizes....only one serving after a

meal.

Hope this helps, you are NOT alone in this battle.

Dena

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I have a 4 year old who is 55 p[ounds. I know your conserns.

But I ws reading something the other day that made me feel

better...and at the reunion one of the other moms came to me and was

telling me how my boy is just like her ? was and that when he turned

4 1/2 he suddenly started slimming out and looking more like a older

child and growing up (tall).

Don't put her on any diet till past 10 (brain develpoment). this is

how you know if it's an unhealthy 'fattness' for a small child. You

know how they have those wieght and hight charts? Well let's say

she's at the 50% in hieght....you wouldn't wanther weight to be over

25% higher than that. So if her hight is 50% and her weight is not

higher than the 75% she's ok. I'll see if I can find that link.

Ang

> >

> > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> possible.

> >

> > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

> weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

> fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> >

> > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

but

> not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> >

> > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

flushed

> all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

years

> was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

> watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

> says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

comfortable

> weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28

to

> go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> >

> > Vic

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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On 8/15/02 8:30 AM, " weightlossbuddies2 "

<weightlossbuddies2 > wrote:

> I just can't see how a mother could put her child

> through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

You know what though? Some mom's really are like that.

When I was 14 and still very skinny, my skinny friend and I went to the

Dairy Queen to buy slurpies. We stood in line behind to very, very heavy

women who were accompanied by two very, very heavy kids. The women ordered

huge ice-cream brownie fudge sundaes for the kids.

My friend and I were then absolutely stunned because the kids interrupted

the women and BEGGED to be allowed something smaller. We sat at the picnic

tables drinking our slurpies; so did the women and the kids. The two kids

actually were protesting that they were full. And you know what, the women

were lecturing the kids telling them they HAD to eat the sundae.

We'd never heard mom's forcing sweets on kids-- vegetables yes, but fudge

sundaes? Anyway, these kids were fat because they were literally force fed.

We were astonished!

Lucia

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That's a horrible story-and, unfortunately, it reminds me of an incident where

my mother did the EXACT same thing. It was never health food she would force me

to eat-sometimes i would even feel sick from what she made me eat. It would be

a lie if i said that this didn't contribute to my later eating problems My

mother has a lot of problems and is a very troubled women. I've tried to make

piece with her over the years, but i have come to the conclusion that she has a

cold heart. It pains me alot to shut her out of my life, because i am a very

family-oriented person, but i think it's best.

Vic

Lucia Liljegren wrote:On 8/15/02 8:30 AM, " weightlossbuddies2 "

wrote:

> I just can't see how a mother could put her child

> through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

You know what though? Some mom's really are like that.

When I was 14 and still very skinny, my skinny friend and I went to the

Dairy Queen to buy slurpies. We stood in line behind to very, very heavy

women who were accompanied by two very, very heavy kids. The women ordered

huge ice-cream brownie fudge sundaes for the kids.

My friend and I were then absolutely stunned because the kids interrupted

the women and BEGGED to be allowed something smaller. We sat at the picnic

tables drinking our slurpies; so did the women and the kids. The two kids

actually were protesting that they were full. And you know what, the women

were lecturing the kids telling them they HAD to eat the sundae.

We'd never heard mom's forcing sweets on kids-- vegetables yes, but fudge

sundaes? Anyway, these kids were fat because they were literally force fed.

We were astonished!

Lucia

--

See my weight loss results at:

http://www.thedietdiary.com/diet/myProgress/ResultsPlan1.html

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My DD is 34 " and 25 lbs at 2 years old. She is such a picky eater.

I worry about her sometimes but they tell me she's at the 50% for

both categories. I do wish she ate more she's just so very active. :

( San

> > >

> > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > possible.

> > >

> > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because

my

> > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

me

> > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > >

> > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

> but

> > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > >

> > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> flushed

> > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> years

> > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

weight

> > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

doctor

> > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> comfortable

> > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28

> to

> > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > >

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

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I have a 10 yr. old son, he weighs 200lbs and is 5' 8 " . He is going into grade 6

this year. It breaks my heart for what he has gone through with the other kids

teasing. He is constantly being called " fat boy " . As I mentioned before, I

started eating healthy in March. Since then, there has been no chips, cookies,

desserts, pop in the house. I always stock up on fruit and veggies. Chips are

now replaced with low fat rice cakes, ice cream is now low fat frozen yogourt.

He has taken such an interest in healthy eating and excercise now that he has

seen how much weight mommy has lost. We bike together almost everyday. For me it

has come off ( the weight ) fairly easy, for him not so fast. Of course he

doesn't follow a plan as religiously as I do. Im hoping that as he gets taller

he will proportion out better. There is one other thing, there is obesity on my

husbands side of the family. Anyways, school is starting in a few weeks and I

pray that this year goes better for him. I am very sensitive and when he cries

himself to sleep because of the harassment he gets at school, it just rips me

apart. .

Re: my goals

I have a 4 year old who is 55 p[ounds. I know your conserns.

But I ws reading something the other day that made me feel

better...and at the reunion one of the other moms came to me and was

telling me how my boy is just like her ? was and that when he turned

4 1/2 he suddenly started slimming out and looking more like a older

child and growing up (tall).

Don't put her on any diet till past 10 (brain develpoment). this is

how you know if it's an unhealthy 'fattness' for a small child. You

know how they have those wieght and hight charts? Well let's say

she's at the 50% in hieght....you wouldn't wanther weight to be over

25% higher than that. So if her hight is 50% and her weight is not

higher than the 75% she's ok. I'll see if I can find that link.

Ang

> >

> > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> possible.

> >

> > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

> weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

> fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> >

> > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

but

> not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> >

> > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

flushed

> all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

years

> was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

> watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

> says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

comfortable

> weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28

to

> go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> >

> > Vic

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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I wish there was a happy medium between my two weight extremetys when i was

younger. Fat, forced fed by my mother, constantly teased " fatty, fatso-you name

it " , rarely spoken nicely to by other children-miserable. Then, in high school,

starving myself to a size 1, having my peers be envious of me, too busy thinking

about weight to make friends-once again miserable. My hope for your son is that

he can diet healthily and not develop the negative body image that teasing

creates. My prayers are with him.

Vic

& Dan Daoust

wrote:I have a 10 yr. old son, he weighs 200lbs and is 5' 8 " . He is going into

grade 6 this year. It breaks my heart for what he has gone through with the

other kids teasing. He is constantly being called " fat boy " . As I mentioned

before, I started eating healthy in March. Since then, there has been no chips,

cookies, desserts, pop in the house. I always stock up on fruit and veggies.

Chips are now replaced with low fat rice cakes, ice cream is now low fat frozen

yogourt. He has taken such an interest in healthy eating and excercise now that

he has seen how much weight mommy has lost. We bike together almost everyday.

For me it has come off ( the weight ) fairly easy, for him not so fast. Of

course he doesn't follow a plan as religiously as I do. Im hoping that as he

gets taller he will proportion out better. There is one other thing, there is

obesity on my husbands side of the family. Anyways, school is starting in a few

weeks and I pray that this year goes better for him. I am very sensitive and

when he cries himself to sleep because of the harassment he gets at school, it

just rips me apart. .

Re: my goals

I have a 4 year old who is 55 p[ounds. I know your conserns.

But I ws reading something the other day that made me feel

better...and at the reunion one of the other moms came to me and was

telling me how my boy is just like her ? was and that when he turned

4 1/2 he suddenly started slimming out and looking more like a older

child and growing up (tall).

Don't put her on any diet till past 10 (brain develpoment). this is

how you know if it's an unhealthy 'fattness' for a small child. You

know how they have those wieght and hight charts? Well let's say

she's at the 50% in hieght....you wouldn't wanther weight to be over

25% higher than that. So if her hight is 50% and her weight is not

higher than the 75% she's ok. I'll see if I can find that link.

Ang

> >

> > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> possible.

> >

> > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

> weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

> fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> >

> > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

but

> not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> >

> > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

flushed

> all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

years

> was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

> watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

> says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

comfortable

> weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28

to

> go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> >

> > Vic

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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dear Michel,

I wish i could go to your mother and law and neibors house and somehow show them

all the horrible things you miss out on being an overweight child. Somehow

express how horrible it is to be looked down apon in the years of your life when

you need acceptance the most. But that would be impossible. I don't have much

widom to offer. I just hope that everything works out for you and your

daughter.

Vic

sunshinestarface wrote:Hi Vic,

I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own daughter. My

daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in the

house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street. We

have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try to

keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me. She

gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of cancer

so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives her all

kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't afford

it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and notice

her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago and I

picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if she

liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My heart just

droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be silly

your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there is

more to this world then the people on her street and in her home that

love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny looks in

her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is going

to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't know if

I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to let her

see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I am

starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle with this

especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight as a

child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming from.

She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out there

riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think there is

much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it when

she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her child

through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

Michel

>

> I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

possible.

>

> When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

>

> In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin, but

not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

>

> By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I flushed

all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for years

was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a comfortable

weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28 to

go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

>

> Vic

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

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Lucia,

That's the most incredible thing I've heard! It sounds like a form

of child abuse to me! unreal...

Joanne

> We'd never heard mom's forcing sweets on kids-- vegetables yes, but

fudge

> sundaes? Anyway, these kids were fat because they were literally

force fed.

> We were astonished!

>

> Lucia

>

> --

> See my weight loss results at:

> http://www.thedietdiary.com/diet/myProgress/ResultsPlan1.html

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Thank you Vic, I understand completely what you went through. The sad thing is

that even when you lose the weight, the hurt and the pain from the past stay

with you for a lifetime and completely damage your self esteem. I had so low

self esteem when I was a teen. I was so much taller than the other girls, my

arms were hairy ( they used to tease me and say that if I were born 2 minutes

later I would have been a monkey), and I wore glasses. That joke about the

monkey cracks me up today thank God. I can get a kick out of it now. Im so

anxious for when my son reaches the point that I am at today. And that is that I

couldn't care less what other people think about me. I must add though, that I

ended up being a pretty good looking woman!!! The ugly ducking that turned in to

an almost swan LOL. .

Re: my goals

I have a 4 year old who is 55 p[ounds. I know your conserns.

But I ws reading something the other day that made me feel

better...and at the reunion one of the other moms came to me and was

telling me how my boy is just like her ? was and that when he turned

4 1/2 he suddenly started slimming out and looking more like a older

child and growing up (tall).

Don't put her on any diet till past 10 (brain develpoment). this is

how you know if it's an unhealthy 'fattness' for a small child. You

know how they have those wieght and hight charts? Well let's say

she's at the 50% in hieght....you wouldn't wanther weight to be over

25% higher than that. So if her hight is 50% and her weight is not

higher than the 75% she's ok. I'll see if I can find that link.

Ang

> >

> > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> possible.

> >

> > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

> weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

> fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> >

> > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

but

> not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> >

> > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

flushed

> all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

years

> was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

> watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

> says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

comfortable

> weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28

to

> go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> >

> > Vic

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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Michel, if you have ins. you could get her some counseling. Something is

bothering her to make her want to eat, maybe. I was a heavy kid too when I

reached 13, puberty. I think if she can learn new ways to deal with her emotions

then she can get better. Hell, if we could all learn new ways to deal with our

emotions then we would all be fine. lol I know its no laughing matter but that

is what i need to learn too. But i think if she had someone to talk to

professionally, maybe they could help her. I dont know, just heard that if you

can get help young, then it can help. Good luck Michel. I feel for you and your

daughter.

Hugs, Tina :o)

Re: my goals

Hi Vic,

I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own daughter. My

daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in the

house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street. We

have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try to

keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me. She

gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of cancer

so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives her all

kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't afford

it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and notice

her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago and I

picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if she

liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My heart just

droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be silly

your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there is

more to this world then the people on her street and in her home that

love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny looks in

her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is going

to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't know if

I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to let her

see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I am

starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle with this

especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight as a

child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming from.

She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out there

riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think there is

much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it when

she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her child

through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

Michel

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Well LInda, it seems like we've both overcome alot through our years : ) you

sound like a very strong woman. I hope everythings works out with your son

Vic

& Dan Daoust

wrote:Thank you Vic, I understand completely what you went through. The sad

thing is that even when you lose the weight, the hurt and the pain from the past

stay with you for a lifetime and completely damage your self esteem. I had so

low self esteem when I was a teen. I was so much taller than the other s, my

arms were hairy ( they used to tease me and say that if I were born 2 minutes

later I would have been a monkey), and I wore glasses. That joke about the

monkey me up today thank God. I can get a kick out of it now. Im so

anxious for when my son reaches the point that I am at today. And that is that I

couldn't care less what other people think about me. I must add though, that I

ended up being a pretty good looking woman!!! The ugly ducking that turned in to

an almost swan LOL. .

Re: my goals

I have a 4 year old who is 55 p[ounds. I know your conserns.

But I ws reading something the other day that made me feel

better...and at the reunion one of the other moms came to me and was

telling me how my boy is just like her ? was and that when he turned

4 1/2 he suddenly started slimming out and looking more like a older

child and growing up (tall).

Don't put her on any diet till past 10 (brain develpoment). this is

how you know if it's an unhealthy 'fattness' for a small child. You

know how they have those wieght and hight charts? Well let's say

she's at the 50% in hieght....you wouldn't wanther weight to be over

25% higher than that. So if her hight is 50% and her weight is not

higher than the 75% she's ok. I'll see if I can find that link.

Ang

> >

> > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> possible.

> >

> > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because my

> weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made me

> fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> >

> > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

but

> not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> >

> > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

flushed

> all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

years

> was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with weight

> watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my doctor

> says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

comfortable

> weight for me however, and i am for 120. 62 down and 28

to

> go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> >

> > Vic

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

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Sounds perfectly normal to me :-)

The less fuss you make about it the more apt she is to eat...I had a

little one that looked like he'd die any mint of starvation, one that

worries me because I thought he was to heavy....in between I reaised

2 others who were perfectly in the middle.

My nephew looks like a skeleton with thin skin stretched over

it..won't even take a bite when bribed for his parents - but with me

he eats like a moose.

Ang

> > > >

> > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > > possible.

> > > >

> > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because

> my

> > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

> me

> > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > >

> > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> > but

> > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > >

> > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > flushed

> > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> > years

> > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> weight

> > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> doctor

> > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > comfortable

> > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and

28

> > to

> > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > >

> > > > Vic

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > >

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I hurts more when it's some one we love than when it's us don't it?

He 10 now

> > >

> > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > possible.

> > >

> > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because my

> > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

me

> > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > >

> > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> but

> > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > >

> > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> flushed

> > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> years

> > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

weight

> > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

doctor

> > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> comfortable

> > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and

28

> to

> > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > >

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

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Well that's cause your cooking is so darn goodang :-) !

Vic

amdvdhjr wrote:Sounds perfectly normal to me :-)

The less fuss you make about it the more apt she is to eat...I had a

little one that looked like he'd die any mint of starvation, one that

worries me because I thought he was to heavy....in between I reaised

2 others who were perfectly in the middle.

My nephew looks like a skeleton with thin skin stretched over

it..won't even take a bite when bribed for his parents - but with me

he eats like a moose.

Ang

> > > >

> > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > > possible.

> > > >

> > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because

> my

> > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

> me

> > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > >

> > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> > but

> > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > >

> > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > flushed

> > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> > years

> > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> weight

> > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> doctor

> > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > comfortable

> > > weight for me however, and i am for 120. 62 down and

28

> > to

> > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > >

> > > > Vic

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > >

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Thank you Dena,

May I ask how old is your daughter? I really need to work with her

like that. It's just gotten so out of control and I don't what to do.

It's not just the neibors my mother in law is the worst one. She is

verry over weight and she acts like she doesn't have a clue what

causes it. My really barked at my husband to tell her something. We

have told her many times not to feed her all day and she still does

it. Last night I don't remember if I mentiones this but My husband

had just told his mother not to feed her all day and guess what

happens minutes later. She comes home eating a candybar. She dosen't

even bother to cut it in half she just gives her the whole thing and

my daughter will over eat when ever it's something she likes. This is

so diffrent for me too because my practley had to force the food down

there throat at that age. If you tell her you have to eat all your

food before a desert she gets happy. I want to move so bad because of

this. I have 4 kids so it's so hard to just focus on her and watch

her like a hawk. My mom thinks the problem will get better when she

starts school. I don't want to wait that long. Do have anyother kids?

If so how does she respond to having to measure food or treats when

they don't. Don't get me wrong what I think what your doing is great

but I'm wondering if it would work with having 4 kids and the others

don't have any extra weight. Thank you so much for your support.

Michel

> Michel,

> I have a 6 year old daughter with the same story. We have an

> elderly lady two doors down who feeds her cookies and ice cream and

> all sorts of junk and like your daughter it is starting to really

> show on her. I have a really weight conscious mother who made me

> feel like I was a dog if I was overweight. So I won't do that to

my

> daughter. This summer she was looking really chunky in her swim

> suit and I decided I needed to do something, she is going to have a

> problem like me if I don't start to teach her.

> So we talk about healthy eating all the time and we started going

on

> long bike rides(she rides, I push the baby in the stroller). WE

> take a water bottle and she drinks that down. I buy " treats " like

> applesauce for snacks and when she really wants ice cream I give

her

> the serving size (1/2) cup . She is still barking about the junk

> food but it is getting better. I told her that she cannot go to

the

> lady's house anymore and eat. If she gives her something she has

to

> bring it home and wait until after a meal and I measure the treat

> out in the recommended serving sizes....only one serving after a

> meal.

> Hope this helps, you are NOT alone in this battle.

> Dena

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That sounds like it would help alot. Maybe she could go to daycamp for a week

and mske some friends. some camps have scholarship programs.

Vic

amdvdhjr wrote:She needs a project...something she can be prowd she's doing. Is

there an elderly lady close that could use some company and give her

a little job? If you talk to them first - let them know that

although you don't want anything mentioned about it your concerned

with her health/wight and that she needs something to feel good

about...ask if she could spend some time. Maybe a nieghbor has a dog

that could use play time and a good brushing every day? (you could

even give them a few dollars to give her for her service)

Also - any nursing homes around...just call them and tell them you

have a little girl who needs to vollenter some time and wantedto know

if there was anything she could do there.

If she has something she can be busy with, and proud of I think

you'll see a difference.

Ang

> > Michel, if you have ins. you could get her some counseling.

> Something is bothering her to make her want to eat, maybe. I was a

> heavy kid too when I reached 13, puberty. I think if she can learn

> new ways to deal with her emotions then she can get better. Hell,

if

> we could all learn new ways to deal with our emotions then we would

> all be fine. lol I know its no laughing matter but that is what i

> need to learn too. But i think if she had someone to talk to

> professionally, maybe they could help her. I dont know, just heard

> that if you can get help young, then it can help. Good luck Michel.

I

> feel for you and your daughter.

> > Hugs, Tina :o)

> > Re: my goals

> >

> >

> > Hi Vic,

> >

> > I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own

daughter.

> My

> > daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

> > gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in

the

> > house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street.

We

> > have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try

> to

> > keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me.

> She

> > gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of

> cancer

> > so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives

her

> all

> > kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't

> afford

> > it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and

> notice

> > her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago

> and I

> > picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if

> she

> > liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My

heart

> just

> > droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be

> silly

> > your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there

> is

> > more to this world then the people on her street and in her

home

> that

> > love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny

> looks in

> > her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is

> going

> > to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't

> know if

> > I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to

let

> her

> > see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I

> am

> > starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle

with

> this

> > especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight

as

> a

> > child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming

> from.

> > She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out

there

> > riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think

there

> is

> > much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it

> when

> > she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her

> child

> > through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

> >

> > Michel

> >

> >

> >

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Thank you Michel for your caring. A big part of the problem is that we are so

isolated. We live on a wildlife reserve and so have no neighbours for quite a

distance. He has loads of land to play around in but he's too scared because of

the wild animals that may be lurking around. So he is very lonely and watches a

lot of t.v.. I bike to town with him as much as he can. It takes us 40 mins. but

now that it is summer, it is so hot and very hard to do. I don't have much of a

problem doing it but he does. He has a little buddy that lives about 4 miles

away and I have him over as often as possible. He sleeps over about 3 times a

week. We also have a swimming pool and he is in there everyday. One good thing

he has is height. He is 10 yrs old and already measures 5' 8 " . The doctors told

me he will probably be at least 6' 4 " . So I think no matter what this kid is

going to be a big lad. His name is Andre and the kids at school nickname him "

Andre the giant " . By the way Michel, my other son has the same name as you

" Michel " . It is french for but we call him Mick. When I was pregnant

with him we decided that either way if it was a boy or girl, we were going to

call the baby Michel. Again, thank you for your kind post, .

Re: my goals

,

I almost cryed reading your message. It would just tear me apart too

have to see my child go through that. I really feel for you and your

son!! Kids are so mean and sometimes adults are even worse. obesity

runs on my husbands side of the family as well. My husband was an

over weight child but lucky for him he got a summerjob doing

arrigation in a hugh field I think he even had a few paper routs. You

know back in the day when kids did it on there bikes. So he was able

to loose the weight before high school. He said he wasn't teased too

bad because he didn't talk to anyone hardly at all. I remember a kid

like that when I was in elementry school and he went out for foot

ball in middle school and had a really hard body in high school. You

couldn't keep the girls off of him. One thing that I just thought of

is maby when she gets to start racing which should be soon when my

husbands arm gets better maby that will help. The older boys race

dirt bikes. My husband did too Well maby not I have seen my husband

as a small child racing and still chubby. Oh who knows what's going

to happin. I don't know what I would do if my daughter was crying her

self to sleep at night. I think I would be crying with her. I am the

biggest whimp!!

Michel

> > >

> > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > possible.

> > >

> > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because my

> > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

me

> > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > >

> > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> but

> > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > >

> > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> flushed

> > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> years

> > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

weight

> > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

doctor

> > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> comfortable

> > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and

28

> to

> > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > >

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

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On 8/16/02 9:13 AM, " weightlossbuddies2 "

<weightlossbuddies2 > wrote:

> That sounds like it would help alot. Maybe she could go to daycamp for a week

> and mske some friends. some camps have scholarship programs.

> Vic

You know, I think day camps are a great idea for kids, especially if you are

having a problem with grandma sneaking them cookies and cakes all day.

When the kid is at camp, she can't go to grandma's and eat forbidden food.

Plus, there usually aren't any candy machines around day camps.

Lucia

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This must be such a horrible feeling. Its one thing to feel bad

about yourself but to have your children feel this way, boy thats a

doozy. I don't have a clue what to say my dd doesnt eat much at all

unless its spaghetti. I feel for you and your daughter. I bet she's

so wonderful and yet has to deal with this allready so soon when she

should be having fun and being gloriously innocent. Kids are growing

up way too soon and I HATE that they are marketing adulthood to our

children. Its disgusting!!! I wish I could help I just have no

clue...San

> > > >

> > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > > possible.

> > > >

> > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because

> my

> > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

> me

> > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > >

> > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> > but

> > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > >

> > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > flushed

> > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> > years

> > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> weight

> > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> doctor

> > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > comfortable

> > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and

28

> > to

> > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > >

> > > > Vic

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > >

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HI ang,

Hi I just couldn't wait to read all the postings today hee hee.

I just checked her height and weight. She is 43 inches tall an weighs

57 pounds. That's wet too since she was playing out in the pool. Her

hair was dry though so I figure it's pritty acurate. He birthday is

2/6/98. Thanks for checking for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

> loss

> > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short

as

> > > > possible.

> > > > >

> > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

> because

> > my

> > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she

made

> > me

> > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > >

> > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

> and

> > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

> my

> > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

> thin,

> > > but

> > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > >

> > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > > flushed

> > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and

for

> > > years

> > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

> was

> > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't

go

> on

> > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> > weight

> > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i

lost

> 2

> > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> > doctor

> > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > > comfortable

> > > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down

and

> 28

> > > to

> > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found

people

> so

> > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > >

> > > > > Vic

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > >

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Ang,

that's so funny you mentioned that. She actually goes and plays with

the neibor ladys dog and gets treats for it. But you gave me an idea.

Maby I will go talk to her and see if she will reword her with

something else other then candy. That was a good idea to think of

something she can do to make her feel self worth. I will have to

give it some thought and think of something she can do.

Thanks,

Michel

> > > Michel, if you have ins. you could get her some counseling.

> > Something is bothering her to make her want to eat, maybe. I was

a

> > heavy kid too when I reached 13, puberty. I think if she can

learn

> > new ways to deal with her emotions then she can get better. Hell,

> if

> > we could all learn new ways to deal with our emotions then we

would

> > all be fine. lol I know its no laughing matter but that is what i

> > need to learn too. But i think if she had someone to talk to

> > professionally, maybe they could help her. I dont know, just

heard

> > that if you can get help young, then it can help. Good luck

Michel.

> I

> > feel for you and your daughter.

> > > Hugs, Tina :o)

> > > Re: my goals

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Vic,

> > >

> > > I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own

> daughter.

> > My

> > > daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just

keeps

> > > gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in

> the

> > > house but she gets it from my mother in law across the

street.

> We

> > > have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I

try

> > to

> > > keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye

me.

> > She

> > > gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died

of

> > cancer

> > > so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives

> her

> > all

> > > kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't

> > afford

> > > it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in

and

> > notice

> > > her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week

ago

> > and I

> > > picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her

if

> > she

> > > liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My

> heart

> > just

> > > droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't

be

> > silly

> > > your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows

there

> > is

> > > more to this world then the people on her street and in her

> home

> > that

> > > love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny

> > looks in

> > > her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is

> > going

> > > to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't

> > know if

> > > I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to

> let

> > her

> > > see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her.

I

> > am

> > > starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle

> with

> > this

> > > especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight

> as

> > a

> > > child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming

> > from.

> > > She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out

> there

> > > riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think

> there

> > is

> > > much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of

it

> > when

> > > she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put

her

> > child

> > > through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

> > >

> > > Michel

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I would do something like that but I think she would be scared. I

think I am going to have to be one of those moms who has to stay with

her on the first day of school lol. The other kids were pushing me

out the door. I think she is alittle clingy since she is the only

girl and us girls have to stick together!

Michel

> > > Michel, if you have ins. you could get her some counseling.

> > Something is bothering her to make her want to eat, maybe. I was

a

> > heavy kid too when I reached 13, puberty. I think if she can

learn

> > new ways to deal with her emotions then she can get better. Hell,

> if

> > we could all learn new ways to deal with our emotions then we

would

> > all be fine. lol I know its no laughing matter but that is what i

> > need to learn too. But i think if she had someone to talk to

> > professionally, maybe they could help her. I dont know, just

heard

> > that if you can get help young, then it can help. Good luck

Michel.

> I

> > feel for you and your daughter.

> > > Hugs, Tina :o)

> > > Re: my goals

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Vic,

> > >

> > > I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own

> daughter.

> > My

> > > daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

> > > gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in

> the

> > > house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street.

> We

> > > have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try

> > to

> > > keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me.

> > She

> > > gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of

> > cancer

> > > so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives

> her

> > all

> > > kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't

> > afford

> > > it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and

> > notice

> > > her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago

> > and I

> > > picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if

> > she

> > > liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My

> heart

> > just

> > > droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be

> > silly

> > > your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there

> > is

> > > more to this world then the people on her street and in her

> home

> > that

> > > love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny

> > looks in

> > > her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is

> > going

> > > to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't

> > know if

> > > I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to

> let

> > her

> > > see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I

> > am

> > > starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle

> with

> > this

> > > especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight

> as

> > a

> > > child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming

> > from.

> > > She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out

> there

> > > riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think

> there

> > is

> > > much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it

> > when

> > > she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her

> > child

> > > through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

> > >

> > > Michel

> > >

> > >

> > >

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