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That's cool your son and I have the same name. My dad's name is

mikkel. He goes by mike though. They wanted me to be a boy and I was

going to be michael. When they found that I was a girl they decided

to call me michel. I knwe all along it was a boys name in france so

when I had my son I gave him my name for his middle name since it

really is a boys name.

As for your son I really feel for him but it sounds like he is

just going to be a big man. Maby all the weight is just his body

getting ready change. I am thinking in a few years he just might grow

in to alot of his weight. I think your doing a great job with him and

just keep up the great work. No matter what size or shape you are

growing up is never easy but things will look up for him later on.

That's great he has a friend that makes all the diffrence. My poor

daughter is the only girl on the street and farther down there is a

few mexican girls but they would rather play with eachother since

they don't speek english well yet. SO I am all my daughter has for

now. She tryes to be me it's so cute! Hope you have a great day and

take care.

Michel

> > > >

> > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

> loss

> > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short

as

> > > possible.

> > > >

> > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

> because my

> > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she

made

> me

> > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > >

> > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got

help

> and

> > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day.

Throughout

> my

> > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

> thin,

> > but

> > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > >

> > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast.

I

> > flushed

> > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and

for

> > years

> > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale

i

> was

> > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't

go

> on

> > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> weight

> > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i

lost

> 2

> > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so

my

> doctor

> > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > comfortable

> > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down

and

> 28

> > to

> > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found

people

> so

> > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > >

> > > > Vic

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > >

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San,

Thanks for caring. I figure we all have battles in life to face she

is just starting early. Maby it will make her stronger.

Michel

> > > > >

> > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

> loss

> > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short

as

> > > > possible.

> > > > >

> > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

> because

> > my

> > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she

made

> > me

> > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > >

> > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

> and

> > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

> my

> > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

> thin,

> > > but

> > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > >

> > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > > flushed

> > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and

for

> > > years

> > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

> was

> > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't

go

> on

> > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> > weight

> > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i

lost

> 2

> > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> > doctor

> > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > > comfortable

> > > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down

and

> 28

> > > to

> > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found

people

> so

> > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > >

> > > > > Vic

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > >

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Wow - she's tall!

Her wieght is withing the 25% safty zone for choldren. I didn't

realize I only have boy charts...but still it should be telling. I

still couldn't find where I was reading the other night...let me

check again real quick...

.....well, it wasn't real quick, but I finally found SOME of what I

was looking for. Check this out...and scrole on down and read

through all the Q's and there are a few charts as well.

Ang

http://www.dietitian.com/children.html

> HI ang,

>

> Hi I just couldn't wait to read all the postings today hee hee.

> I just checked her height and weight. She is 43 inches tall an

weighs

> 57 pounds. That's wet too since she was playing out in the pool.

Her

> hair was dry though so I figure it's pritty acurate. He birthday is

> 2/6/98. Thanks for checking for me.

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

> > loss

> > > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short

> as

> > > > > possible.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

> > because

> > > my

> > > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she

> made

> > > me

> > > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got

help

> > and

> > > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day.

Throughout

> > my

> > > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

> > thin,

> > > > but

> > > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast.

I

> > > > flushed

> > > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and

> for

> > > > years

> > > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale

i

> > was

> > > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't

> go

> > on

> > > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> > > weight

> > > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i

> lost

> > 2

> > > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so

my

> > > doctor

> > > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > > > comfortable

> > > > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down

> and

> > 28

> > > > to

> > > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found

> people

> > so

> > > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vic

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > >

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Ang,

I am so dence about this stuff but what does it meen if she is at 25%

safty zone? SO where does that put her on the scale? How much over

avrage does that make her so can you tell about who over weight she

is? Ya she is going to be tall. All the women on my husbands dads

side are tall. SO do you think I should worry about her weight?

Thanks for taking the time to do this for me!

Michel

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my

weight

> > > loss

> > > > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as

short

> > as

> > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

> > > because

> > > > my

> > > > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when

she

> > made

> > > > me

> > > > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got

> help

> > > and

> > > > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day.

> Throughout

> > > my

> > > > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i

was

> > > thin,

> > > > > but

> > > > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and

fast.

> I

> > > > > flushed

> > > > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain,

and

> > for

> > > > > years

> > > > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a

scale

> i

> > > was

> > > > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i

couldn't

> > go

> > > on

> > > > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and

with

> > > > weight

> > > > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i

> > lost

> > > 2

> > > > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so

> my

> > > > doctor

> > > > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > > > > comfortable

> > > > > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62

down

> > and

> > > 28

> > > > > to

> > > > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found

> > people

> > > so

> > > > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vic

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > > >

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Well, she is so tall (just like my son) that she is off the chart.

hold on ---- I'll go see if I can dig a pic of one up so you can see

what I mean...(sure wish my scanner ws working :-(

Anyway, let's say she was at 50% in hight. So long as she wasn't

over the 75% in weight whe sina't at risk of being an obese adult

ect. (her hieght being 50%, add 25% to that and you get the 75%).

Now these lines and percentages aren't figured up in such a way that

they figure up exact if you were to mathmaticaly figure them out - so

that doesn't nesseccarily mean that she would be 25% to fat or

anything like that. What it meens is that MOST kids (wieght wise)

fall safely and normally withing 25% of their hight range. gIt takes

into account that kids go through these phases...and seems to me

there are only a handful of patterns they follow. Your daughter

seems to be on the same track my oldest was on. My little one is on

the same track his dad was on. I was on the typical girl track ---

in which I was a good weight baby (little bit of chub to keep mom and

gram happy but not fat), got thin as soon as I started walking -

stayed thin till I hit about 10 then startred putting on the 'getting

ready to become a woman' fat...got chunky till I hit 13, lost

that 'baby' fat and got my curves. From then on out it was all

dependant on my eating and activity level, just as an adult.

Some kids are like my brother was and his little guy - start out fine

and become skeletons that keep mom worried for years and not fillout

till they hit their adolecence. There are alot of different 'trends'

that are in the normal grow up thing for kids...but in the thousands

of kids I have worked with and care fore and some even lived with

me...reguardless of the genetics - they all (but 2) fall within those

trends.

The one who did have a problem with weight - although there wasn't

any diference in just looking at her - I could tell almost

immediately. Most of the kids I got were either way too thin or way

too heavy when they first came to me...I expect that - as very few

caregivers feed them propperly it seems --- either nothing but fast

food, or crazy health nuts who won't let them have an ice cream cone

on fridays. Usually withing a few weeks of not drinking soda and

kooliad all day and eating a varied diet (including junk and sweets),

they start changing in the way they act and look. (Not just

behavior - but energy level and lathargic type stuff - many adults

easily make the mistake of saying the child is depressed or

has 'problems'.

For her - she didn't get that 'spark' back that kids should have.

And although she didn't gain or loose weight (which I wouldn't

expecxt so soon anyway), she didn't get that 'look' --- how do I

explain it (gosh, I go so much by the feelings I get that I don't

even think in terms of expanations)...well - the way they stand for

instance - is it self supported, alert/awake - or standing there as

if they have worked a 14 hour shift and are ready to drop, or as if

they are 'melty'/too relaxed. Their eyes - you can see it in their

eyes as well - that good contact or distance struggle to grasp the

here and now, are they eyes shineyand sparkly, moist looking. Also -

if she'll let you - take a good look at her iris's. Are they pretty

even? Not in size but as far as textured collar? If you look

closely you'll see the iris isn't just one solid color, it is like

little lines of collor running out from the puple. Are any of those

lines very dark compared to the rest? Now look to see if there

are 'lines' - like circles going around...clear, but there.

Enough of that - I have no clue how this got so long --- I ramble

so...sorry :-)

Ang

> Ang,

>

> I am so dence about this stuff but what does it meen if she is at

25%

> safty zone? SO where does that put her on the scale? How much over

> avrage does that make her so can you tell about who over weight she

> is? Ya she is going to be tall. All the women on my husbands dads

> side are tall. SO do you think I should worry about her weight?

> Thanks for taking the time to do this for me!

>

> Michel

>

>

>

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my

> weight

> > > > loss

> > > > > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as

> short

> > > as

> > > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight,

mainly

> > > > because

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when

> she

> > > made

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got

> > help

> > > > and

> > > > > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day.

> > Throughout

> > > > my

> > > > > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i

> was

> > > > thin,

> > > > > > but

> > > > > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and

> fast.

> > I

> > > > > > flushed

> > > > > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain,

> and

> > > for

> > > > > > years

> > > > > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a

> scale

> > i

> > > > was

> > > > > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i

> couldn't

> > > go

> > > > on

> > > > > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and

> with

> > > > > weight

> > > > > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group,

i

> > > lost

> > > > 2

> > > > > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise,

so

> > my

> > > > > doctor

> > > > > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't

a

> > > > > > comfortable

> > > > > > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62

> down

> > > and

> > > > 28

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found

> > > people

> > > > so

> > > > > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Vic

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > > > >

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Hi ang,

Well I will start by telling you the pattern she has went through.

When she was born she was 7.11 and 19 inches. She was breast fed so

she stayed chubby until she started crawling. THen when she started

walking and running she got really shin. She was about on the low end

of avrage in weight nothing to be alarmed about. Then when she hit

her third birthday she started looking perfect and healthy. Then from

there she really took a leap in her weight and ended up on the high

end of avrage in weight. Then throught that third year she packed on

a lot of weight. Then by her 4th birthday she looked chubby not real

bad but she just keeps slowely inching the weight on and she is

getting taller just as fast as she is getting bigger. I know my

middle chile did the same thing but he didn't get as big as she did I

don't think. Or it could be thet he was a boy so it wasn't as

noticable as it is on her. If you think it's fine then I won't worry

so much about it I will just keep her from eating so much junk. She

does seem to have a big appatite though. It's weird I could never get

her to eat now she wan't to eat everything. At the reunion yesterday

she ate her plate of food and then her little brother left his plate

so she just ate it for him. I normaly would have said something but I

could tell she would have gotten really imbarrassed so I didn't take

it from her or say any thing. I don't know if this has anything to do

with her weight but she didn't want to play with the other little

girls. SHe acted like she was too shy to go over there. THey all came

up to her to say hi and she still didn't want to go over there and

that's just not like her. She is usually really out going. Maby she

is already being teased and I just haven't herd it. Maby I am just

making this bigger then it is. Everyone did say how cute her hair

looked today so I know that made her feel good.

Michel

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my

> > weight

> > > > > loss

> > > > > > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as

> > short

> > > > as

> > > > > > > > possible.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight,

> mainly

> > > > > because

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself

when

> > she

> > > > made

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i

got

> > > help

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day.

> > > Throughout

> > > > > my

> > > > > > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college,

i

> > was

> > > > > thin,

> > > > > > > but

> > > > > > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and

> > fast.

> > > I

> > > > > > > flushed

> > > > > > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the

drain,

> > and

> > > > for

> > > > > > > years

> > > > > > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a

> > scale

> > > i

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i

> > couldn't

> > > > go

> > > > > on

> > > > > > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle,

and

> > with

> > > > > > weight

> > > > > > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this

group,

> i

> > > > lost

> > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height

wise,

> so

> > > my

> > > > > > doctor

> > > > > > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this

isn't

> a

> > > > > > > comfortable

> > > > > > > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62

> > down

> > > > and

> > > > > 28

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never

found

> > > > people

> > > > > so

> > > > > > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Vic

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > > > > >

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