Re: FLUSH #3 RESULTS...

[Guest guest]

Dear Barry,

Did you not mention previously that you have grown up eating a good

diet?

I am wondering if people who generally eat well will have less

results with the flush.

Did you mention that you had a stone visualized in the ultra sound? -

From what I can figure, a stone in the ultra sound is a good

indication of a calcified stone - one that has been there for a long

time.

The reason I say this is because I have the same things good diet for

most of my life; no great results in 3rd flush; stone in ultra sound.

I am hypothizing that the stones have developped from a trauma to the

system. Possibly an operation or a period of time when the body was

very sick and stressed - therefore functioning on a lesser level.

I know that I've had a few times in my life that my body was very

sick and think that that is when I picked up thiese stones.

Comments anyone?

Suzanne

> I guess my questions would be either I did something wrong with my

> diet and flush or I've cleared out my liver/gb already.

> Am I a third flsuh wonder? I hope so. I was just expecting to get

the

> same (or more) from my third flush.

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

Yes, I did mention I have a stone showing on ultrasound. I checked

after my first flush and it was still there. Was going to wait until

a few more flushes to check ultrasound again. I want to break it down

with diet, flushing, herbs before I check it again.

I didn't grow up with a healthy diet. Dominos, KFC, Mcs, etc.

I think I do know when my stone got sluggish in my GB though. In the

last two years I have gained 10 points. 160-170 lbs. I went from a

size 30 waist to 32 inch. I was eating a lot of junk in the last two

years and I think the change in my diet was the cause of my stones.

Adding the weight was already making me think and I had just started

excersizing abs heavy the last 4 months. Then the pain got worse. In

fact, the pain would come usually after a workout evening. Funny how

you can really look back and review what you were doing wrong or even

what you ate to get the night time pain. Your body will tell you

something is wrong and to do something about it. I'm so happy to try

cleansing instead of surgery. So far so good. No pain.

How many flushes have you done? Also, have you rechecked with

ultrasound?

Barry.

> Dear Barry,

>

> Did you not mention previously that you have grown up eating a good

> diet?

>

> I am wondering if people who generally eat well will have less

> results with the flush.

>

> Did you mention that you had a stone visualized in the ultra

sound? -

> From what I can figure, a stone in the ultra sound is a good

> indication of a calcified stone - one that has been there for a

long

> time.

>

> The reason I say this is because I have the same things good diet

for

> most of my life; no great results in 3rd flush; stone in ultra

sound.

>

> I am hypothizing that the stones have developped from a trauma to

the

> system. Possibly an operation or a period of time when the body

was

> very sick and stressed - therefore functioning on a lesser level.

>

> I know that I've had a few times in my life that my body was very

> sick and think that that is when I picked up thiese stones.

>

> Comments anyone?

>

> Suzanne

> > I guess my questions would be either I did something wrong with

my

> > diet and flush or I've cleared out my liver/gb already.

> > Am I a third flsuh wonder? I hope so. I was just expecting to get

> the

> > same (or more) from my third flush.

[Guest guest]

Hi Barry,

I have not yet done an ultra sound - I know that I still have

problems, so don't need to waste the time.

I've now done 4 flushes. I had also done a 2 week Gold Coin Grass

cure before the 3rd flush. (Maybe that took care of all the

cholesterol stones.)

I'm trying a brew of dandylion root right now to help detoxify the

liver. It's less expensive than Gold Coin Grass and will be

plentiful for me to harvest in the spring/summer season.

Keep up the quest for health,

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Barry,

Well, I waited one month between #5 and #6 cleanse, and there did seem

to be noticably more stones expelled. But, you could very well be

fairly clear of stones at this point. I can't remember if you've said

whether or not you've done parasite/kidney/bowel cleanses previously,

but if not, you might want to consider doing them now, before you do

another cleanse. My 18 yr. old daughter, just finished her second

cleanse....no stones at all. Now, she had a lot of tiny ones on her

first cleanse, and she hasn't had any symptoms of GB problems yet, but

I think she's probably clear of stones now.

The only other thing that comes to mind, is that you might want to try

experimenting with laying on left or right sides during the night of

cleanse. Dale has posted previously about this....I think I saved it.

Let me know if you want me to hunt for it.

Adrienne

--- barry91162 <barry91162@...> wrote:

> Hi GB groupies,

>

> I've just completed my third flush and feel somewhat disappointed.

>

> #1 flush. A lot of sludge and around 30 stones measuring 1 mm to 1 cm

>

> in size.

>

> #2 flush. Still a lot of sludge only less and around 70 stones same

> sizes.

>

> #3 flush. Only a little sludge and around 50 tiny crystally stones

> none measuring more than 1 mm.

>

> I guess my questions would be either I did something wrong with my

> diet and flush or I've cleared out my liver/gb already.

> Am I a third flsuh wonder? I hope so. I was just expecting to get the

>

> same (or more) from my third flush. I'm starting to like seeing the

> results. haha

> I hope my system is clear. I've heard that the bigger stones are in

> the back and as you continue with flushing the bigger ones come out.

> Also, I have heard that once the gunk and stones stop you have

> probably cleared out your system.

> Should I wait 2 weeks and do a 4th cleanse or should I wait a month

> to do the next one?

> Anyone?

>

> Thanks,

> Barry.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Suzanne,

Cleansing cholesterol stones are very easy. They usually pass in

normal bowel movement with proper dieting anyway. I don't know how

many people know that. Cleansing does it faster and more completely.

Cleansing cholesterol liver and gb stones have been no problem for

me. It's the 1cm hard, calcified, painful, stone that I want to

breakup and eliminate like you also.

I've heard the Gold Coin Grass breaks down cholesterol stones. Also

apple juice and other herbs. I'm looking for a real STONE BREAKER.

Besides the long acting medications that could take year(s), I'm

still searching for the best product, herb, diet, etc.

Have you heard of Chanca Piedra? That may be my next route. Sounds

promising. I hope so. A lot of natural herbs claiming to do

the 'almost impossible' can be a let down. Have to be careful.

Check out this Chanca Piedra and let me know what you think. Other

inputs also appreciated.

http://www.wholeworldbotanicals.com/royalbreakstone.html

Anyone want to suggest, please do.

Barry.

> Hi Barry,

>

> I have not yet done an ultra sound - I know that I still have

> problems, so don't need to waste the time.

>

> I've now done 4 flushes. I had also done a 2 week Gold Coin Grass

> cure before the 3rd flush. (Maybe that took care of all the

> cholesterol stones.)

>

> I'm trying a brew of dandylion root right now to help detoxify the

> liver. It's less expensive than Gold Coin Grass and will be

> plentiful for me to harvest in the spring/summer season.

>

> Keep up the quest for health,

> Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Thanks Adrienne,

I may wait one month now to do my fourth flush. Maybe I'm clear of

liver stones. I still want to break that calcified 1cm stone in my GB

down and eliminate it.

I still haven't heard anyone explain why Dr. Hulga suggest

laying flat on back and Dr. and others suggest right side. I

have done both with the same liver stone elimination results (1st and

2nd cleanses about the same). Why the differance in method? Does

anyone know why they differ? (Not the reasoning for how the stones

pass but why they differ?..).

Thanks,

Barry.

> > Hi GB groupies,

> >

> > I've just completed my third flush and feel somewhat

disappointed.

> >

> > #1 flush. A lot of sludge and around 30 stones measuring 1 mm to

1 cm

> >

> > in size.

> >

> > #2 flush. Still a lot of sludge only less and around 70 stones

same

> > sizes.

> >

> > #3 flush. Only a little sludge and around 50 tiny crystally

stones

> > none measuring more than 1 mm.

> >

> > I guess my questions would be either I did something wrong with

my

> > diet and flush or I've cleared out my liver/gb already.

> > Am I a third flsuh wonder? I hope so. I was just expecting to get

the

> >

> > same (or more) from my third flush. I'm starting to like seeing

the

> > results. haha

> > I hope my system is clear. I've heard that the bigger stones are

in

> > the back and as you continue with flushing the bigger ones come

out.

> > Also, I have heard that once the gunk and stones stop you have

> > probably cleared out your system.

> > Should I wait 2 weeks and do a 4th cleanse or should I wait a

month

> > to do the next one?

> > Anyone?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Barry.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Adrienne,

This reply was actually to me last month. Is a calcified stone

heavier that it doesn't float thus facilitating having to lay on left

side? Never got an answer.

Also, the logic seems logical for me but I never got an answer to my

REAL question of why the Dr.'s opinions in their methods differ...?

Thanks.

Barry.

--- In gallstones@y..., Adrienne McLaughlin <adriennelynn1@y...>

wrote:

> Hi Barry,

> Here is Dale's post explaining laying on left/right sides. I thought

> his explaination for laying on left side seemed logical, and worth a

> try for calcified stones:

>

>

> " Perhaps I can help you to understand this better. If you take note

of

> the position of the gallbladder, in the area just below the liver,

it's

> neck is notably facing towards the left side. Since the gallstones

do

> float it is more likely to place the stones at the neck of the

> gallbladder if someone is laying on the right side having the left

side

> up and therefore the neck of the gallbladder up too. This then

> facilitates the stones departure into the Common Bile duct with

greater

> ease. .....At least that is the theory. Therefore if someone has a

> calcified stone, which is heavier than a cholesterol stone, then it

> would only make more sense to lay on the left side. Thereby there

is an

> attempt to try get the stone in the neck of the gallbladder to have

it

> displace into the Common Bile duct when the gallbladder convulses. "

>

> http://www.umm.edu/liver/liver.htm

>

>

> Adrienne

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks (even though it doesn't answer my question).

I also think laying on back sort of centralizes the whole process.

I'd just like to hear why every (Dr.) doesn't hold the same opinion.

Barry.

> > > > Hi GB groupies,

> > > >

> > > > I've just completed my third flush and feel somewhat

> > disappointed.

> > > >

> > > > #1 flush. A lot of sludge and around 30 stones measuring 1 mm

to

> > 1 cm

> > > >

> > > > in size.

> > > >

> > > > #2 flush. Still a lot of sludge only less and around 70 stones

> > same

> > > > sizes.

> > > >

> > > > #3 flush. Only a little sludge and around 50 tiny crystally

> > stones

> > > > none measuring more than 1 mm.

> > > >

> > > > I guess my questions would be either I did something wrong

with

> > my

> > > > diet and flush or I've cleared out my liver/gb already.

> > > > Am I a third flsuh wonder? I hope so. I was just expecting to

get

> > the

> > > >

> > > > same (or more) from my third flush. I'm starting to like

seeing

> > the

> > > > results. haha

> > > > I hope my system is clear. I've heard that the bigger stones

are

> > in

> > > > the back and as you continue with flushing the bigger ones

come

> > out.

> > > > Also, I have heard that once the gunk and stones stop you have

> > > > probably cleared out your system.

> > > > Should I wait 2 weeks and do a 4th cleanse or should I wait a

> > month

> > > > to do the next one?

> > > > Anyone?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Barry.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >