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Rogene,

Good question, do you have implants? I have the same problem along with a lot of other women with implants.

Donna

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Hi Sally . . .

Welcome! . . .Do you still have your implants? . . .

After developing chemical sensivities, sore arm/shoulders were my next problems . . . I went through the routine . .. antiflammatories, physical therapy, massage, acupuncture, exercise, you name it, I tried it. Even now, 12 years after explant, there are times when it gives me problems . . . That's why I couldn't sleep tonight!

Rogene

Re: Question from the Newbie

I had that frozen shoulder thing too for almost a year, but it wasn't the implants, it was the hours I spent on the computer doing internet research! Acupuncture, massage and stretching solved it for me!

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Hi Donna,

I'm probably the oldest one of the group . . . I had my 16 year-old leaking silicone gel imlants removed 12 years ago . . . Most of my problems gradually faded away. But it's a continuing effort to feel well. As long as I do everything I know to do, I feel really well . . It just takes getting off balance one step and I have problems though.

At least I got back to where I could enjoy life. . . Most of the women I met during that time were wedded to conventional medicine and are even sicker now . . or dead.

Hugs,

Rogene

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Hi Rogene,

I turned 65 on the 21st of June. A Solstice woman.

Lynda

At 07:47 AM 6/23/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Donna,

>

>I'm probably the oldest one of the group . . . I had my 16 year-old

>leaking silicone gel imlants removed 12 years ago . . . Most of my

>problems gradually faded away. But it's a continuing effort to feel

>well. As long as I do everything I know to do, I feel really well .

>. It just takes getting off balance one step and I have problems though.

>

>At least I got back to where I could enjoy life. . . Most of the

>women I met during that time were wedded to conventional medicine

>and are even sicker now . . or dead.

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

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Well, Lea, you do not look 68.

Love,

Lynda

At 09:41 AM 6/23/2006, you wrote:

>I will be 68 in October...but 18 until I die...did I say die? I plan on

>living forever.........love you both........Me

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>

> > Hi Rogene,

> >

> > I turned 65 on the 21st of June. A Solstice woman.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> > At 07:47 AM 6/23/2006, you wrote:

> >

> >>Hi Donna,

> >>

> >>I'm probably the oldest one of the group . . . I had my 16 year-old

> >>leaking silicone gel imlants removed 12 years ago . . . Most of my

> >>problems gradually faded away. But it's a continuing effort to feel

> >>well. As long as I do everything I know to do, I feel really well .

> >>. It just takes getting off balance one step and I have problems

>though.

> >>

> >>At least I got back to where I could enjoy life. . . Most of the

> >>women I met during that time were wedded to conventional medicine

> >>and are even sicker now . . or dead.

> >>

> >>Hugs,

> >>

> >>Rogene

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead

>you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to

>live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >

>

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Frozen shoulder is a recognized medical condition that may have an autoimmune component to it. Since almost all of the women who get sick from implants exhibit signs and symptoms of autoimmunity, it is no surprise that many women with implants suffer from frozen shoulder. More info can be found at this link: http://cnn.nl/HEALTH/library/DS/00416.html Frozen shoulder From MayoClinic.com Special to CNN.com Overview Frozen

shoulder, also known as adhesive capsulitis, is a condition characterized by stiffness and pain in your shoulder joint. In one stage of the disorder — the freezing stage — your shoulder's range of motion is notably reduced. Frozen shoulder usually affects one shoulder at a time, although some people may eventually develop it in the opposite shoulder. With treatments recommended by their doctors and through self-care efforts, most people eventually regain nearly full shoulder range of motion and strength as signs and symptoms improve. Signs and symptoms Frozen shoulder typically develops slowly, and in three stages. Each of these stages can last a number of months: Painful stage. During this stage, pain occurs with any movement of your shoulder. Frozen stage. Pain may begin to diminish during this stage. However, your shoulder becomes stiffer and your range of motion decreases notably. Avoid extreme movements that cause pain during this stage. But, you can and should continue normal use of your shoulder. Thawing stage. During the thawing stage, the condition may begin to improve. Although this healing process sometimes occurs on its own, you may need the help of a doctor. For some people, the pain worsens at night, sometimes disrupting normal sleep patterns. Causes Doctors don't know the precise cause of frozen shoulder. It can occur after an injury to your shoulder or prolonged immobilization of your shoulder, such as after surgery or an arm fracture.

People who have diabetes have a greater risk of frozen shoulder. For this reason, frozen shoulder may have an autoimmune component, meaning your immune system may begin to attack the healthy parts of your body — in this case, the supporting structures of your shoulder. People with other health conditions, including heart disease, lung disease and hyperthyroidism, also may have an increased risk of developing frozen shoulder. Your shoulder is a ball-and-socket joint. The round end of your upper arm bone (humerus) fits into a shallow groove on your shoulder blade (scapula), much like a golf ball rests on a tee. Tough connective tissue, called the shoulder capsule, surrounds the joint and plays an important role in movement. When frozen shoulder occurs, the shoulder capsule becomes inflamed and stiff. The inflammation may cause bands of tissue (adhesions) to develop between your joint's surfaces. Synovial fluid, which helps to keep your joint

lubricated and moving smoothly, may also decrease. As a result, pain and subsequent loss of movement may occur. In some cases, mobility may decrease so much so that performing everyday activities — such as combing your hair, brushing your teeth or reaching for your wallet in your back pocket — is difficult or even impossible. Risk factors Although the exact cause is unknown, certain factors may increase your risk of getting frozen shoulder. These factors include: Age. People 40 and older are more likely to experience frozen shoulder. Diabetes. For unknown reasons, frozen shoulder is more common in people with diabetes. Immobility. People who have experienced prolonged

immobility of their shoulder — perhaps due to trauma, overuse injuries or surgery — often experience frozen shoulder. Systemic diseases. People with systemic disease, such as an overactive thyroid (hyperthyroidism), underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism), cardiovascular disease, or Parkinson's disease, may experience frozen shoulder. Type 1 diabetes Hyperthyroidism Hypothyroidism Cardiovascular disease 101: Know your heart and blood vessels Parkinson's disease When to seek medical advice If you experience significant pain combined with stiffness and restricted range of motion in your shoulder, you should see your doctor to determine if you have frozen shoulder. Screening and diagnosis The primary means of diagnosing frozen shoulder is a physical examination. During the exam, your doctor may test your active movement (movement without assistance) by asking

you to raise and lower your arm to the front, sides and back of your body. Your doctor may also test your passive movement (movement with assistance) by manually moving your arm and shoulder to determine your range of motion. As well, he or she may press on parts of your shoulder to see what might cause pain. Loss of both active and passive movement and a pattern of generalized (diffuse) shoulder tightness and pain are strong indicators of frozen shoulder. Obtaining an X-ray image of your shoulder joint allows your doctor to assess the bones of your shoulder. A magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scan of the shoulder isn't necessary to diagnose frozen shoulder, but your doctor may suggest an MRI scan to exclude other structural shoulder problems. MRI: Viewing the body's hidden structure X-ray Treatment Most treatments for frozen shoulder involve moving and stretching the shoulder muscles — just the opposite of what most people do when their shoulder begins to hurt and stiffen. Your doctor may recommend you see a physical therapist. He or she can show you how to maintain as much mobility in your shoulder as possible, without stressing your shoulder to the point of causing a lot of pain. Continue to use the involved shoulder and extremity in as many daily life activities as possible within the limits of your pain and range of motion constraints. Gently and gradually stretching your shoulder muscles may not completely alleviate the symptoms of frozen shoulder. However, it may help

restore enough flexibility to enable you to resume your everyday activities. Your doctor may also recommend these treatments: Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs). These medications may help relieve pain and inflammation associated with frozen shoulder. Acetaminophen (Tylenol, others) also may be effective for pain relief. Heat or cold. Applying heat or cold to your shoulder can help relieve pain. Corticosteroids. Injecting these anti-inflammatory hormones into your shoulder joint can help decrease pain during the initial painful phase. However, they do little to improve your shoulder's range of motion and repeated corticosteroid injections aren't recommended. Surgery. In a small number of cases, surgery is an option to remove scar tissue and adhesions from inside your shoulder

joint. Doctors usually perform this surgery with a lighted, tubular instrument inserted through an incision in your joint (arthroscopically). Shoulder manipulation. In a few people, if severe stiffness persists, gently manipulating the shoulder during a general anesthetic may help to improve motion. Electrical stimulation. Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation (TENS) is a treatment that can be used to help control your pain. In this procedure, a tiny electrical current is delivered to key points on a nerve pathway. The current, delivered through electrodes taped to your skin, isn't painful or harmful. It's not known exactly how TENS works, but it's thought that it might stimulate the release of pain-inhibiting molecules (endorphins) or block pain fibers that carry pain impulses. Newer treatment options include injecting fluid into the shoulder joint to expand the

shoulder capsule and break up adhesions. Doctors still need to assess the long-term results of this treatment. NSAIDs: How to avoid side effects Steroid use: Balancing the risks and benefits Self-care Maintaining as much range of motion as possible in your shoulder is important. Your physical therapist can show you how to move your shoulder joint through comfortable range of motion planes to avoid further stiffening. Once pain has lessened, you may be able to tolerate more shoulder exercises. As you progress into the thawing

phase, your physical therapist can advance your stretching and strengthening program to maximize your shoulder's range of motion and function. Complementary and alternative medicine Acupuncture has been used effectively in some people with frozen shoulder to provide pain relief. This medical treatment, originally developed in China, has been in use for more than 2,500 years. It involves inserting extremely fine needles in your skin to stimulate specific points that allow the free flow of energy in your body. Depending on the problem being treated and the type of acupuncture, a practitioner may use a number of needles or just a few. Typically, the needles remain in place for 15 to 40 minutes. During that time they may be moved or manipulated. Because the needles are hair thin and flexible and are

generally inserted superficially, most acupuncture treatments are relatively painless. April 19, 2005 © 1998-2006 Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research (MFMER). All rights reserved. A single copy of these materials may be reprinted for noncommercial personal use only. "Mayo," "Mayo Clinic," "MayoClinic.com," "Mayo Clinic Health Information," "Reliable information for a healthier life" and the triple-shield Mayo logo are trademarks of Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research. Terms of Use.© 2001 Planetree, Inc. All rights reserved. Sally <ladyoflight1@...> wrote: I had that frozen shoulder thing too for almost a year, but it wasn't the implants, it was the hours I spent on the computer doing internet research! Acupuncture, massage and stretching solved it for me! __________________________________________________

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Lea,

Tests would show if you have scleroderma. I think my mother never

looked her age, and I look more like her than any of my brothers and sisters.

Lynda

At 07:45 AM 6/25/2006, you wrote:

>Lynda, I think that having all of this silicone in my body has done

>something to my skin. Many people have told me that I have failed to age! I

>know that I am aging, but sometimes I wonder what the silicone has done to

>our skin. We know what it has done to our health and in my opinion it could

>be scleroderma. Most of the women do not seem to age....none of you look

>your age. My brother who had not seen me for years asked me why I did not

>grow old?KKJ from Toxic discovery told me that my skin looked like I might

>have scleroderma, she saw me on CBC!

>

>Wonders me...love you......Lea

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> Re: Re: Question from the Newbie

> >>

> >> > Hi Rogene,

> >> >

> >> > I turned 65 on the 21st of June. A Solstice woman.

> >> >

> >> > Lynda

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > At 07:47 AM 6/23/2006, you wrote:

> >> >

> >> >>Hi Donna,

> >> >>

> >> >>I'm probably the oldest one of the group . . . I had my 16 year-old

> >> >>leaking silicone gel imlants removed 12 years ago . . . Most of my

> >> >>problems gradually faded away. But it's a continuing effort to feel

> >> >>well. As long as I do everything I know to do, I feel really well .

> >> >>. It just takes getting off balance one step and I have problems

> >>though.

> >> >>

> >> >>At least I got back to where I could enjoy life. . . Most of the

> >> >>women I met during that time were wedded to conventional medicine

> >> >>and are even sicker now . . or dead.

> >> >>

> >> >>Hugs,

> >> >>

> >> >>Rogene

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> >>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> >>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >> >

> >> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead

> >>you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how

>to

> >>live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> >>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >> >

> >> > See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

> >> >

> >>

><<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.c\

om/action/>http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >> >

> >> >

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Scleroderma is a condition where the collegan disappears and the tissue feels like bone . . . I had an area of it on one leg . . . There was no softness to it . . . It was just like touching the bone! . . . When scleroderma invades the internal organs, it is fatal. . everything turns hard.

One of our silicone sister has one child that is severely affected. They have done surgerys to release her elbows so she can move them. . .

At one time, they did a study which showed the prevalance of scleroderma in implanted women was significantly higher that in the rest of the population . . . so high in fact that they dismissed the study and didn't use the criteria in the MDL settlement.

Believe me, if you have scleroderma, you'll know something is wrong.

Mine gradually disappeared after having my implants removed.

Rogene