Re: Deflation/No Bra Wearing (!)

[Guest guest]

This sounds weird. No doctor I have ever heard

of has made this type of request. And no bra,

women out there should weigh in on this because this is a new one on me.

Lynda

At 06:09 PM 9/8/2006, you wrote:

>You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

>deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've all

>heard this and I determined that there was NO physical benefit to

>doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well,

>since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle she

>really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she just

>deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the

>skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the skin

>more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

>doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she concluded

>that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

>

>It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the

>question.....

>

>THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would prefer I

>didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am small,

>but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this type of

>situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

>tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a tank of

>sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the colder

>months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.

>

>Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you all

>were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting she

>prefers none at all.

>

>thank you

>

>

[Guest guest]

Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into your

breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you want

leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too

familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the

reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants? Did

you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra

wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think

most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making this

up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more

girls chime in on this. We are here for you,

Terri P

>

> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've all

> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical benefit

to

> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well,

> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle she

> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

just

> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the

> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the skin

> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she concluded

> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

>

> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the

> question.....

>

> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would prefer I

> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am small,

> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this type

of

> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a tank

of

> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the colder

> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.

>

> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you all

> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting

she

> prefers none at all.

>

> thank you

>

[Guest guest]

Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women who

get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has

had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like she

is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually easier

to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when

it's done at once.

I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into the

body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to ask

again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned the

tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I

thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps saying 'just

do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way

it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one, right?

I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to have

flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal.

Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is much

better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I felt

like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused. I

did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel that.

I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running into

the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will

do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc.

oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing bit.

She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several

cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can

hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the practice

mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure, I

have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I agree.

I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I

wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I know

I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just trying

to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced one

at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is

always available via phone and email, etc.

In , " Peake " <peaketeresa@...>

wrote:

>

> Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into your

> breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you

want

> leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too

> familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the

> reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants?

Did

> you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra

> wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think

> most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making

this

> up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more

> girls chime in on this. We are here for you,

> Terri P

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

all

> > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

benefit

> to

> > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well,

> > since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

she

> > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

> just

> > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the

> > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

skin

> > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

> > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

concluded

> > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> >

> > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the

> > question.....

> >

> > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

prefer I

> > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

small,

> > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

type

> of

> > situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

> > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

tank

> of

> > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

colder

> > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.

> >

> > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

all

> > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting

> she

> > prefers none at all.

> >

> > thank you

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If it were me I'd just get them out all at once. What will the difference be to deflate first? You will still want them out, right? It's very possible your breasts will be stretched out afterwards, but you can always get a lift later if it bothers you. You won't really know how they are going to look until you get them completely out. Plus the extra stress and everything-- seems pointless. It seems odd that she would be pushing this idea on you when you are ill and what you really want is to get 'em out. If you don't want to deflate then just say no.

Will this surgeon carefully remove the capsules? Does she know this is important?

After much pressure from me my implanting surgeon finally agreed to remove the capsules but still denied that they wcould be making me sick. Luckily I had enough sense to find someone else who did believe implants can make you sick.

Don't let anybody make you do something you don't want to do with your body. Trust your instincts, try and find the best plan for you and stick to your guns.

Bindi

Re: Deflation/No Bra Wearing (!)

Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into your breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you want leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants? Did you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making this up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more girls chime in on this. We are here for you,Terri P>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've all > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical benefit to > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well, > since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle she > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she just > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the skin > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she concluded > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine. > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the > question.....> > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would prefer I > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am small, > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this type of > situation' because she believes they press into and effect the > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a tank of > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the colder > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.> > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you all > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting she > prefers none at all.> > thank you >

[Guest guest]

I hadn't ever heard of the no-bra thing. Wearing a bra is supposed to hold the tissues in place so they won't heal in a weird position. Everything is all loose (especially after explant and lift) and needs to have something to keep it where it's supposed to be (as opposed to where it was with the implants).

I can understand how women would get depressed when they see their deflated breasts and want to be reimplanted. But deflation is not an accurate picture of your final result. It takes many months for your breasts to heal after explant and fluff up to their natural shape. Everyone's breasts would look pretty sad at first!

How frustrating that your previous ps told you he was placing them under, only to find out later that he lied! I can see why you would be wary of believing anyone. But this ps you are working with sounds better than most. She sounds like she'd go along with what you ultimately decide.

It's hard for me to believe, though, that she has no photos of explants. Doesn't she photograph them afterwards? Maybe she would be willing to give you the names and numbers of some of her explant patients so you can talk to them about their experience and results.

Bindi

Re: Deflation/No Bra Wearing (!)

Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women who get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like she is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually easier to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when it's done at once. I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into the body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to ask again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned the tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps saying 'just do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one, right? I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to have flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal. Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is much better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I felt like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused. I did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel that. I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running into the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc. oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing bit. She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the practice mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure, I have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I agree. I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I know I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just trying to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced one at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is always available via phone and email, etc.In , " Peake" <peaketeresa@...> wrote:>> Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into your > breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you want > leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too > familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the > reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants? Did > you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra > wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think > most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making this > up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more > girls chime in on this. We are here for you,> Terri P> > > > > > > >> > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've all > > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical benefit > to > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well, > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle she > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she > just > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the skin > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she concluded > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine. > > > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the > > question.....> > > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would prefer I > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am small, > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this type > of > > situation' because she believes they press into and effect the > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a tank > of > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the colder > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.> > > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you all > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting > she > > prefers none at all.> > > > thank you > >>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bindi. I think this is the lonliest I have felt

throughout this. I want them out anyhow, so why go through that.

Yes, she will do the total capsulectomy - didn't think it was

necessary, but absolutely will do it if it is important, and

automatically does it if it's silicone, or there is calcification,

so she isn't as ignorant as most are. The point we mostly

conflicted on was deflation. She is big on detoxing afterwards and

lympathic massage etc - so there were some points that put her above

the others I talked to. The only reason I think I agreed to

deflation was after she told me my implants were in front of the

muscle - I felt so betrayed by my inital ps that I freaked that skin

would be horrible stretched.

I really am terrified they'll be stretched, although my skin is very

good and elastic and healthy looking so I am hopeful. Plus, I

started to beleive it was a bunch of nonsense that anyone would

look 'deformed' and chalked that up to ps's not wanting women to

really like themselves as they are.

I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts. it helps so much.

> >

> > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

all

> > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

benefit

> to

> > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

Well,

> > since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

she

> > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money

she

> just

> > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

the

> > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

skin

> > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the

skin

> > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

concluded

> > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> >

> > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

the

> > question.....

> >

> > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

prefer I

> > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

small,

> > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

type

> of

> > situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

> > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

tank

> of

> > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

colder

> > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

layer.

> >

> > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

all

> > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

interesting

> she

> > prefers none at all.

> >

> > thank you

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know Dr. Melmed answers email. Why don't you email him and ask his

opinion about what this PS is suggesting? Perhaps he can shed some light on

her reasoning or let you know that it is not a good idea for some reason.

Kenda

> Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women who

> get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has

> had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like she

> is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually easier

> to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when

> it's done at once.

>

> I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into the

> body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to ask

> again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned the

> tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I

> thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps saying 'just

> do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way

> it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one, right?

> I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to have

> flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal.

>

> Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is much

> better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I felt

> like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused. I

> did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel that.

> I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running into

> the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will

> do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc.

>

> oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing bit.

> She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several

> cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can

> hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the practice

> mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure, I

> have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I agree.

> I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I

> wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I know

> I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just trying

> to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced one

> at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is

> always available via phone and email, etc.

>

> In , " Peake " <peaketeresa@...>

> wrote:

>>

>> Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into your

>> breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you

> want

>> leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too

>> familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the

>> reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants?

> Did

>> you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra

>> wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think

>> most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making

> this

>> up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more

>> girls chime in on this. We are here for you,

>> Terri P

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

>>> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> all

>>> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> benefit

>> to

>>> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well,

>>> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

> she

>>> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

>> just

>>> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the

>>> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> skin

>>> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

>>> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> concluded

>>> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

>>>

>>> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the

>>> question.....

>>>

>>> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> prefer I

>>> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> small,

>>> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> type

>> of

>>> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

>>> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> tank

>> of

>>> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> colder

>>> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.

>>>

>>> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> all

>>> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting

>> she

>>> prefers none at all.

>>>

>>> thank you

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-Emerald Kitty,

You are not making her sound awful,Its is jsut something we haven't

heard before. We want to make sure you have all the info and

questions answered before you go, so you don't have to go back for

additional surgeries. I am paying the price for not having all the

info on removing the capsules, and now 1 year later I have to go back

when I thought it was over is just terrible, If I had all these

wonderful experienced ladies on my side last year I would know

everything I neede to know, That is all we are trying to do is save

you, We want to be there for you if you forget to ask something and

then pray for you when you have all your questions answered,

Peace be with you,

Terri P

-- In , " Emerald Kittee "

<emeraldkittee@...> wrote:

>

> Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women who

> get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has

> had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like she

> is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually

easier

> to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when

> it's done at once.

>

> I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into the

> body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to

ask

> again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned the

> tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I

> thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps saying 'just

> do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way

> it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one,

right?

> I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to have

> flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal.

>

> Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is

much

> better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I

felt

> like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused. I

> did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel that.

> I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running into

> the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will

> do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc.

>

> oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing bit.

> She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several

> cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can

> hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the

practice

> mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure, I

> have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I agree.

> I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I

> wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I

know

> I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just trying

> to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced one

> at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is

> always available via phone and email, etc.

>

> In , " Peake " <peaketeresa@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into

your

> > breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you

> want

> > leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too

> > familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the

> > reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants?

> Did

> > you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra

> > wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I

think

> > most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making

> this

> > up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more

> > girls chime in on this. We are here for you,

> > Terri P

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> all

> > > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> benefit

> > to

> > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

Well,

> > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

> she

> > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

> > just

> > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

the

> > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> skin

> > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

> > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> concluded

> > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> > >

> > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

the

> > > question.....

> > >

> > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> prefer I

> > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> small,

> > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> type

> > of

> > > situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

> > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> tank

> > of

> > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> colder

> > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.

> > >

> > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> all

> > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

interesting

> > she

> > > prefers none at all.

> > >

> > > thank you

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I just had a thought. I was never implanted so I can't speak about

explanation and stretched breasts but I did give birth to two children and

breast fed both. Breasts are supposed to stretch so they can fill with

milk. I am pretty small but my breasts were HUGE when I was nursing. You

may be pleasantly surprised once the implants are out.

Kenda

> Thank you Bindi. I think this is the lonliest I have felt

> throughout this. I want them out anyhow, so why go through that.

> Yes, she will do the total capsulectomy - didn't think it was

> necessary, but absolutely will do it if it is important, and

> automatically does it if it's silicone, or there is calcification,

> so she isn't as ignorant as most are. The point we mostly

> conflicted on was deflation. She is big on detoxing afterwards and

> lympathic massage etc - so there were some points that put her above

> the others I talked to. The only reason I think I agreed to

> deflation was after she told me my implants were in front of the

> muscle - I felt so betrayed by my inital ps that I freaked that skin

> would be horrible stretched.

>

> I really am terrified they'll be stretched, although my skin is very

> good and elastic and healthy looking so I am hopeful. Plus, I

> started to beleive it was a bunch of nonsense that anyone would

> look 'deformed' and chalked that up to ps's not wanting women to

> really like themselves as they are.

>

> I really appreciate you sharing your thoughts. it helps so much.

>

>

>>>

>>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

>>> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> all

>>> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> benefit

>> to

>>> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

> Well,

>>> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

> she

>>> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money

> she

>> just

>>> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

> the

>>> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> skin

>>> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the

> skin

>>> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> concluded

>>> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

>>>

>>> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

> the

>>> question.....

>>>

>>> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> prefer I

>>> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> small,

>>> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> type

>> of

>>> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

>>> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> tank

>> of

>>> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> colder

>>> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

> layer.

>>>

>>> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> all

>>> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

> interesting

>> she

>>> prefers none at all.

>>>

>>> thank you

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

--Good point Bindi,

My surgeon said the same thing he didn't have any explant pictures.

But I found out having come to this site that was not true,Patty can

tell you there are pictures but for what ever reason they don't want

to show them, maybe they are afraid that we will see that they

actually look pretty good and wont spend more money getting

replacements or lifts. Maybe they are playing on our emotions at the

time that we will get new ones put in, I don't know, but she should

show them to you or like Bindi says let you talk to someone who had

her do it, I doubt that she will probably say patient

confidentiality.. When I had my explant and had to take the bra off

to sqeeze the drain bulbs I didn't like the feeling of them just

hanging there, they just felt to raw you know from the healing

process, I felt like I had to hold them up, especially with the

weight of the drains hanging there,They felt much better being

supported by the bra,

Terri P

- In , " freebindi " <bindi@...> wrote:

>

> I hadn't ever heard of the no-bra thing. Wearing a bra is supposed

to hold the tissues in place so they won't heal in a weird position.

Everything is all loose (especially after explant and lift) and needs

to have something to keep it where it's supposed to be (as opposed to

where it was with the implants).

>

> I can understand how women would get depressed when they see their

deflated breasts and want to be reimplanted. But deflation is not an

accurate picture of your final result. It takes many months for your

breasts to heal after explant and fluff up to their natural shape.

Everyone's breasts would look pretty sad at first!

>

> How frustrating that your previous ps told you he was placing them

under, only to find out later that he lied! I can see why you would

be wary of believing anyone. But this ps you are working with sounds

better than most. She sounds like she'd go along with what you

ultimately decide.

>

> It's hard for me to believe, though, that she has no photos of

explants. Doesn't she photograph them afterwards? Maybe she would be

willing to give you the names and numbers of some of her explant

patients so you can talk to them about their experience and results.

> Bindi

> Re: Deflation/No Bra Wearing (!)

>

>

> Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women

who

> get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has

> had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like

she

> is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually

easier

> to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when

> it's done at once.

>

> I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into

the

> body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to

ask

> again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned the

> tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I

> thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps

saying 'just

> do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way

> it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one,

right?

> I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to

have

> flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal.

>

> Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is

much

> better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I

felt

> like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused.

I

> did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel

that.

> I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running

into

> the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will

> do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc.

>

> oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing bit.

> She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several

> cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can

> hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the

practice

> mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure,

I

> have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I

agree.

> I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I

> wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I

know

> I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just

trying

> to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced

one

> at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is

> always available via phone and email, etc.

>

> In , " Peake " <peaketeresa@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into

your

> > breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what

you

> want

> > leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too

> > familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe

the

> > reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants?

> Did

> > you already schedule with her or can you get another consult?

Bra

> > wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I

think

> > most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making

> this

> > up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope

more

> > girls chime in on this. We are here for you,

> > Terri P

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> all

> > > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> benefit

> > to

> > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

Well,

> > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the

muscle

> she

> > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money

she

> > just

> > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

the

> > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> skin

> > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the

skin

> > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> concluded

> > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> > >

> > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

the

> > > question.....

> > >

> > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> prefer I

> > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> small,

> > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> type

> > of

> > > situation' because she believes they press into and effect

the

> > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> tank

> > of

> > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> colder

> > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

layer.

> > >

> > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> all

> > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

interesting

> > she

> > > prefers none at all.

> > >

> > > thank you

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Is the point of this deflation to help you decide whether or not you want/need a LIFT or what?

I'm asking, because mine are over the muscle, and if it's something my doc may suggest, I want to be mentally prepared to do it on the spot since he's too far away for me to come home and think about it.

I already know I'll need a lift, though-100% certain. So, if that is why they are asking that you deflate, I'm not going to worry about it. If it is -I am! lol

Thanks,

Brig

[Guest guest]

If there's any way around it at all, I just couldn't see deflating first. Like the others are saying, it would leave a hole there in the implant, and they can't possibly get every drop out that way. SOMETHING would leak out between then and your surgery.

Even MENTOR told me a few years ago over the phone that a leak could make you have flu like symptoms. (I had called them when I first heard about illness from implants... their answer was "No, the implants wouldn't make you this ill; however, a leak could. Maybe you have a slow leak." And a slow leak -we're talking only drops per day... I've had one.) I've also had surgeons who do NOT believe in implant illnesses, but DO believe leaks can make you sick... so why would this doctor want this stuff possibly leaking out in you for weeks?

If it worsened your symptoms, you might not even feel up to doing the explant at that time... it just sounds like a bad idea all around.

And what I was saying before about wondering if she's doing it so that you can judge by your skin if you need a lift or not with explant... A good doctor, surely, would have an idea without you going through deflation first. It just sounds psychological to me -just like everyone suspects -it's all about seeing if you REALLY want to exchange them for new ones instead of getting them out completely!!!

Brig

[Guest guest]

Emerald: The deflation/no bra for six months thing just sounds weird. I've been on this list for a while and haven't seen this discussed before. So many of the girls here have had the lift and explant done at the same time and had good results. Plus, the reason you're getting them out is because you're symptomatic, so you have to wait a month with those empty bags in you when you could be rid of them. (I'm not sure what kind of wait you're looking at for the surgery, though.) Plus, I would think if even if this doctor uses a syringe to get the fluid out, something's going to leak out at some point during this procedure. I can't imagine you'd want to be replanted either if you're ill, regardless of what you end up looking like, so her reasoning sounds flawed. KateEmerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women who get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like she is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually easier to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when it's done at once. I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into the body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to ask again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned

the tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps saying 'just do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one, right? I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to have flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal. Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is much better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I felt like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused. I did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel that. I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running into the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc. oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing

bit. She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the practice mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure, I have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I agree. I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I know I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just trying to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced one at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is always available via phone and email, etc.In , " Peake" <peaketeresa@...> wrote:>> Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and

stuff leaks into your > breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you want > leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too > familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the > reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants? Did > you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra > wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think > most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making this > up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more > girls chime in on this. We are here for you,> Terri P> > > > > > > >> > You may recall this new ps that I am

considering wanted me to > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've all > > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical benefit > to > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well, > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle she > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she > just > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the skin > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she concluded > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine. > > > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the > > question.....>

> > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would prefer I > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am small, > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this type > of > > situation' because she believes they press into and effect the > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a tank > of > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the colder > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.> > > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you all > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting > she > > prefers none at all.> > > > thank you > >>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Terri _ I am so sorry you must go back - may I ask why?

Are you having trouble with the capsule still in? I hope you can go

soon?

> > > >

> > > > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me

to

> > > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah,

we've

> > all

> > > > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> > benefit

> > > to

> > > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

> Well,

> > > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the

muscle

> > she

> > > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money

she

> > > just

> > > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

> the

> > > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches

the

> > skin

> > > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the

skin

> > > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> > concluded

> > > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> > > >

> > > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

> the

> > > > question.....

> > > >

> > > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> > prefer I

> > > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> > small,

> > > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> > type

> > > of

> > > > situation' because she believes they press into and effect

the

> > > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> > tank

> > > of

> > > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> > colder

> > > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

layer.

> > > >

> > > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of

you

> > all

> > > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

> interesting

> > > she

> > > > prefers none at all.

> > > >

> > > > thank you

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

YES! brilliant! I will! I will google him and see if I can get his

email. Does he know about this group? Is it appropriate to say I

was referred to him by this group?

> >>>

> >>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> >>> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> > all

> >>> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> > benefit

> >> to

> >>> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

Well,

> >>> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

> > she

> >>> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

> >> just

> >>> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

the

> >>> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> > skin

> >>> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

> >>> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> > concluded

> >>> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> >>>

> >>> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

the

> >>> question.....

> >>>

> >>> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> > prefer I

> >>> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> > small,

> >>> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> > type

> >> of

> >>> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

> >>> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> > tank

> >> of

> >>> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> > colder

> >>> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

layer.

> >>>

> >>> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> > all

> >>> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

interesting

> >> she

> >>> prefers none at all.

> >>>

> >>> thank you

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are right! of course they are supposed to stretch. good

point.

> >>>

> >>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

> >>> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> > all

> >>> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> > benefit

> >> to

> >>> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

> > Well,

> >>> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

> > she

> >>> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money

> > she

> >> just

> >>> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

> > the

> >>> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> > skin

> >>> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the

> > skin

> >>> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> > concluded

> >>> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> >>>

> >>> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

> > the

> >>> question.....

> >>>

> >>> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> > prefer I

> >>> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> > small,

> >>> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> > type

> >> of

> >>> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

> >>> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> > tank

> >> of

> >>> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> > colder

> >>> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

> > layer.

> >>>

> >>> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> > all

> >>> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

> > interesting

> >> she

> >>> prefers none at all.

> >>>

> >>> thank you

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Brig,

That is EXACTLY what occured to me last nite. When I asked about

lifts she said she NEVER does them at the same time b/c she wants to

see how the skin will retract and heal. She feels it's a waste of

time and money to do it right away. She said most likely I wouldn't

be a candidate, BUT this occured to me - IF I get deflated

and 'we'll know in 3 wks how the skin will heal' and they are saggy,

then I could schedule the lift at the time of surgery I am guessing

and save another operation later. This is the only thing that makes

sense for a reason for deflated, but she didn't mention this. I am

going to ask. If the answer is no, there is no reason for

deflation. Thanks for bringing this up. You guys are really

helping me. I hit the point last nite where I felt that I had no

one to talk to. The few people who know just can no longer dialogue

in a way I want and need. Thank you from the bottom of my heart

>

> Is the point of this deflation to help you decide whether or not

you

> want/need a LIFT or what?

>

> I'm asking, because mine are over the muscle, and if it's

something my doc

> may suggest, I want to be mentally prepared to do it on the spot

since he's

> too far away for me to come home and think about it.

>

> I already know I'll need a lift, though-100% certain. So, if that

is why

> they are asking that you deflate, I'm not going to worry about it.

If it is -I

> am! lol

>

> Thanks,

> Brig

>

[Guest guest]

If a woman isn't certain she can live with the results of not being

reimplanted, I can see being deflated. It gives the woman a month to think

about how she likes her new body. Since you are certain you do not want to

be reimplanted, it makes no sense to be deflated. You need the implants out

so you can regain your health. Having them in your body deflated, leaking

fluid into your body will only cause you to be sicker. There is no way she

can guarantee that none of the fluid will leak out into your body. Have you

ever drank all of the water from a glass, yet found there are several drops

left? Simply dragging the syringe through your breast will contaminate your

tissues. This sounds like a really risky procedure to me. It leads me

believe that the doctor doesn't understand the severity of your illness and

commitment to get the bags out for good.

Kenda

> Her main reason for liking deflation is that she has had women who

> get very depressed then, and end up getting reimplanted. She has

> had some who are just glad to 'be rid of them'. I do feel like she

> is pushing me on the deflation, but she told me it's actually easier

> to do explant withOUT deflation - she has more room to work when

> it's done at once.

>

> I was worried about the fluids from deflation too, leaking into the

> body, but she says it's all taken out with a syringe. I need to ask

> again if drains are used or not. At first when she mentioned the

> tissue healing was different if it was in front of the muscle, I

> thought I'd better do deflation, but now my gut keeps saying 'just

> do it all at once'. I mean, the tissue is going to heal the way

> it's gonna heal no matter if it's in two installments or one, right?

> I LOVE the idea of being small again, but it creeps me out to have

> flattened implants in there for a month - she says that is ideal.

>

> Yah the bra thing freaked me out too, but she swears that it is much

> better in letting the breasts return to their natural shape. I felt

> like I was getting all the info, now I am feeling more confused. I

> did book the deflation, but I am most likely going to cancel that.

> I have talked to a few others, and honestly, I am just running into

> the same thing. She has been the most open, etc, in terms of will

> do a capsulectomy, uses drains for every surgery, etc.

>

> oh, yes, I hope others chime in with info on the bra wearing bit.

> She didn't at all seem like she was making it up, and had several

> cases that she mentioned. There were no photos of explant (I can

> hear everyone going 'uh-oh') because, when I questioned the practice

> mgr, 'most women are interested in the augmented results'. Sure, I

> have been lied to before my suregeons, so you never know, I agree.

> I do know I wouldn't be able to go to Kolb or Melmed or Feng. I

> wish they did phone consults to explain this ps's reasoning...I know

> I won't find the warm and fuzzy dream doctor here, I am just trying

> to pick thru the b.s. and find the most skilled and experienced one

> at explant. I am making her sound awful, and she isn't, she is

> always available via phone and email, etc.

>

> In , " Peake " <peaketeresa@...>

> wrote:

>>

>> Just my opinion, but if she deflates you and stuff leaks into your

>> breast then you have another problem, that stuff is not what you

> want

>> leaking in there, I don't know but sounds like she is not too

>> familiar with this or doesn't want to do it, Does she believe the

>> reports that say their are fungus and bacteria in the implants?

> Did

>> you already schedule with her or can you get another consult? Bra

>> wearing was a must for me, I don't understand her thinking I think

>> most of us were told to wear a bra of some sort, is she making

> this

>> up as she goes along? How many explants has she done? I hope more

>> girls chime in on this. We are here for you,

>> Terri P

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

>>> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

> all

>>> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> benefit

>> to

>>> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once. Well,

>>> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

> she

>>> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

>> just

>>> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how the

>>> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

> skin

>>> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

>>> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> concluded

>>> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

>>>

>>> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is the

>>> question.....

>>>

>>> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> prefer I

>>> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> small,

>>> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

> type

>> of

>>> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

>>> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

> tank

>> of

>>> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> colder

>>> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and layer.

>>>

>>> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

> all

>>> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's interesting

>> she

>>> prefers none at all.

>>>

>>> thank you

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, he knows of the group. I emailed him right after I found this group

and asked him about my being implanted. He wrote me back several times. He

was very kind and very much against my being implanted. You can tell him I

referred you, if you like. You can tell him he helped talk me out of being

implanted.

Kenda

> YES! brilliant! I will! I will google him and see if I can get his

> email. Does he know about this group? Is it appropriate to say I

> was referred to him by this group?

>

>

>>>>>

>>>>> You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me to

>>>>> deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah, we've

>>> all

>>>>> heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

>>> benefit

>>>> to

>>>>> doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

> Well,

>>>>> since learning that my implants were in front/above the muscle

>>> she

>>>>> really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money she

>>>> just

>>>>> deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see how

> the

>>>>> skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches the

>>> skin

>>>>> more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the skin

>>>>> doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

>>> concluded

>>>>> that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

>>>>>

>>>>> It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that is

> the

>>>>> question.....

>>>>>

>>>>> THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

>>> prefer I

>>>>> didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

>>> small,

>>>>> but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra for 'this

>>> type

>>>> of

>>>>> situation' because she believes they press into and effect the

>>>>> tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or a

>>> tank

>>>> of

>>>>> sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

>>> colder

>>>>> months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

> layer.

>>>>>

>>>>> Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of you

>>> all

>>>>> were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

> interesting

>>>> she

>>>>> prefers none at all.

>>>>>

>>>>> thank you

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the doctors we highly recommend would not do

this. And, they do a lift at the same time, as

they are very good and know what the outcome will be.

Lynda

At 07:30 AM 9/9/2006, you wrote:

>If there's any way around it at all, I just

>couldn't see deflating first. Like the others

>are saying, it would leave a hole there in the

>implant, and they can't possibly get every drop

>out that way. SOMETHING would leak out between then and your surgery.

>

>Even MENTOR told me a few years ago over the

>phone that a leak could make you have flu like

>symptoms. (I had called them when I first heard

>about illness from implants... their answer was

> " No, the implants wouldn't make you this ill;

>however, a leak could. Maybe you have a slow

>leak. " And a slow leak -we're talking only drops

>per day... I've had one.) I've also had surgeons

>who do NOT believe in implant illnesses, but DO

>believe leaks can make you sick... so why would

>this doctor want this stuff possibly leaking out in you for weeks?

>

>If it worsened your symptoms, you might not even

>feel up to doing the explant at that time... it

>just sounds like a bad idea all around.

>

>And what I was saying before about wondering if

>she's doing it so that you can judge by your

>skin if you need a lift or not with explant... A

>good doctor, surely, would have an idea without

>you going through deflation first. It just

>sounds psychological to me -just like everyone

>suspects -it's all about seeing if you REALLY

>want to exchange them for new ones instead of getting them out completely!!!

>

>Brig

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If she said she never does lifts at the same time as explantation, I doubt

this is the reason she deflates. From what you said in previous email, it

sounds like it is for purely psychological reasons.

Kenda

> That is EXACTLY what occured to me last nite. When I asked about

> lifts she said she NEVER does them at the same time b/c she wants to

> see how the skin will retract and heal. She feels it's a waste of

> time and money to do it right away. She said most likely I wouldn't

> be a candidate, BUT this occured to me - IF I get deflated

> and 'we'll know in 3 wks how the skin will heal' and they are saggy,

> then I could schedule the lift at the time of surgery I am guessing

> and save another operation later. This is the only thing that makes

> sense for a reason for deflated, but she didn't mention this. I am

> going to ask. If the answer is no, there is no reason for

> deflation. Thanks for bringing this up. You guys are really

> helping me. I hit the point last nite where I felt that I had no

> one to talk to. The few people who know just can no longer dialogue

> in a way I want and need. Thank you from the bottom of my heart

>

>

>>

>> Is the point of this deflation to help you decide whether or not

> you

>> want/need a LIFT or what?

>>

>> I'm asking, because mine are over the muscle, and if it's

> something my doc

>> may suggest, I want to be mentally prepared to do it on the spot

> since he's

>> too far away for me to come home and think about it.

>>

>> I already know I'll need a lift, though-100% certain. So, if that

> is why

>> they are asking that you deflate, I'm not going to worry about it.

> If it is -I

>> am! lol

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Brig

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I am still having issues. Although I do feel alot better I have a

bad staph bacteria, High sed rate and inflammed just about

everywhere. My brain fog went away and I dont have any memory issues

now, before explant I couldn't remember anything even what I was

doing moment to moment.I didn't know if I had talked to someone

minutes before what was said or who they were, So believe me I am

happy I had explant. The inflammation causes me pain in many places,

and that nasty bacteria oozing out is disgusting .Hard cyst like

bumps in various places, I am looking for a surgeon here in Hawaii I

have gotten a referral to a surgeon I will see soon, I will tell more

when I see her.

Terri P

> > > > >

> > > > > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted me

> to

> > > > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah,

> we've

> > > all

> > > > > heard this and I determined that there was NO physical

> > > benefit

> > > > to

> > > > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at once.

> > Well,

> > > > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the

> muscle

> > > she

> > > > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more money

> she

> > > > just

> > > > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see

how

> > the

> > > > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front stretches

> the

> > > skin

> > > > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if the

> skin

> > > > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> > > concluded

> > > > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> > > > >

> > > > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate, that

is

> > the

> > > > > question.....

> > > > >

> > > > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she would

> > > prefer I

> > > > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I am

> > > small,

> > > > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra

for 'this

> > > type

> > > > of

> > > > > situation' because she believes they press into and effect

> the

> > > > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least, or

a

> > > tank

> > > > of

> > > > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad the

> > > colder

> > > > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater and

> layer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most of

> you

> > > all

> > > > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

> > interesting

> > > > she

> > > > > prefers none at all.

> > > > >

> > > > > thank you

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

-Sweetie,

I think we ahve all felt that way at one time or another, you have us

to lean on

Terri P

Aloha

-- In , " Emerald Kittee "

<emeraldkittee@...> wrote:

>

> Brig,

>

> That is EXACTLY what occured to me last nite. When I asked about

> lifts she said she NEVER does them at the same time b/c she wants

to

> see how the skin will retract and heal. She feels it's a waste of

> time and money to do it right away. She said most likely I

wouldn't

> be a candidate, BUT this occured to me - IF I get deflated

> and 'we'll know in 3 wks how the skin will heal' and they are

saggy,

> then I could schedule the lift at the time of surgery I am guessing

> and save another operation later. This is the only thing that

makes

> sense for a reason for deflated, but she didn't mention this. I am

> going to ask. If the answer is no, there is no reason for

> deflation. Thanks for bringing this up. You guys are really

> helping me. I hit the point last nite where I felt that I had no

> one to talk to. The few people who know just can no longer

dialogue

> in a way I want and need. Thank you from the bottom of my heart

>

>

> >

> > Is the point of this deflation to help you decide whether or not

> you

> > want/need a LIFT or what?

> >

> > I'm asking, because mine are over the muscle, and if it's

> something my doc

> > may suggest, I want to be mentally prepared to do it on the spot

> since he's

> > too far away for me to come home and think about it.

> >

> > I already know I'll need a lift, though-100% certain. So, if

that

> is why

> > they are asking that you deflate, I'm not going to worry about

it.

> If it is -I

> > am! lol

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Brig

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Terri, did you read any of the Oil of Oregano posts a while back?

This may help you get that bacterial infection under control. If

you're interested, there's good info on the net...just type in Oil

of Oregano and lots will come up. Hate to see you suffer with that.

Love,

Sunny

-- In , " Peake "

<peaketeresa@...> wrote:

>

> Yes I am still having issues. Although I do feel alot better I

have a

> bad staph bacteria, High sed rate and inflammed just about

> everywhere. My brain fog went away and I dont have any memory

issues

> now, before explant I couldn't remember anything even what I was

> doing moment to moment.I didn't know if I had talked to someone

> minutes before what was said or who they were, So believe me I am

> happy I had explant. The inflammation causes me pain in many

places,

> and that nasty bacteria oozing out is disgusting .Hard cyst like

> bumps in various places, I am looking for a surgeon here in Hawaii

I

> have gotten a referral to a surgeon I will see soon, I will tell

more

> when I see her.

> Terri P

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You may recall this new ps that I am considering wanted

me

> > to

> > > > > > deflate to make sure I wanted them out (blah blah blah,

> > we've

> > > > all

> > > > > > heard this and I determined that there was NO

physical

> > > > benefit

> > > > > to

> > > > > > doing this and was just going to get 'em out all at

once.

> > > Well,

> > > > > > since learning that my implants were in front/above the

> > muscle

> > > > she

> > > > > > really wants me to have deflation (and it is NOT more

money

> > she

> > > > > just

> > > > > > deducts it from your total tab) because she wants to see

> how

> > > the

> > > > > > skin will heal for 4 wks. Having them in front

stretches

> > the

> > > > skin

> > > > > > more. Of course, she did try to scare me with 'what if

the

> > skin

> > > > > > doesn't heal right, and sags and you hate it'. But she

> > > > concluded

> > > > > > that I have good skin elascticity and I should be fine.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's a hard decision - To Deflate or Not to Deflate,

that

> is

> > > the

> > > > > > question.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > THEN I cannot wear a bra after the deflation and she

would

> > > > prefer I

> > > > > > didn't wear one for 6 mos after the surgery. oh dear, I

am

> > > > small,

> > > > > > but?? she said it is very hard to find a good bra

> for 'this

> > > > type

> > > > > of

> > > > > > situation' because she believes they press into and

effect

> > the

> > > > > > tissue. I asked if I could wear a little cami at least,

or

> a

> > > > tank

> > > > > of

> > > > > > sorts and she said ok, but prefers nothing. I am glad

the

> > > > colder

> > > > > > months are coming so at least I can toss on a sweater

and

> > layer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Any ideas on the deflating vs. not deflating? And most

of

> > you

> > > > all

> > > > > > were told to wear a bra (sport) after explant? It's

> > > interesting

> > > > > she

> > > > > > prefers none at all.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thank you

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

shannon

I would definitely agree with patty here - I can really think of no really good reasons why this doctor is insistent on these things and the bra thing I have never heard of.... I have had to wear sports bras at the very minimum w/ all my surgeries including explant.... I would have no idea what logic would be involved in not wearing one at all for 6 months... I had my implants for 7 years and went thru a pregnancy and breast fed for 9 months where they grew huge..... my explant was a year later where I did not get a lift for financial reasons plus my doc did not think I would need one and he was right... I did not require one at all even with all that stretching - all women are different and some will require lifts - just depends on your skin and implant size, etc. After seeing my implants after removal and knowing all the garbage and mold, etc,. that was inside of them there is no way I would have wanted to take the chance of any ore of that mess getting released into my body than necessary.

What would worry me here if I were you, if her insistence in this issue - I have never heard of this being done in several years of being involved here.... it would seem to me that it may be the fact that it will make the surgery easier for her this way which makes sense, but I would also want to make sure that if you are not comfortable with doing it the way she is suggesting, she is capable of doing a proper procedure the other way as well.... seems to me that she has been really pushing this idea which would make me want to question why this is.... I am sure she is a fine doctor and I can not give medical advice or judge but if it were my doctor - these are the thoughts I would be thinking....

is there some reason she is not comfortable with removing them intact? will there be risks this way? if so, why? Just make sure you ask all the questions and have all your bases covered so you are totally prepared for your surgery and outcome. My doctor wasn't well known but he removed mine completely intact and left very minimal scarring and was completely on target as far as me not needing a lift... he could have cost me a lot more money but said he really did not think I needed it. Now - he didn't do everything right and therefore i am having to go back in but I also didn't pay him very much and for my $$ I think I got what I paid for... he also helped w/ my insurance. you have to make sure you are comfortable w/ your doctor - this is key....

my opinions only, of course....

shari