Re: Deflation/No Bra Wearing (!)

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Shari. Good points - I know, I totally agree with you. I

too thought that she was pushing the deflation because it made it

easier for her - when I asked her under which conditions it was

easier to operate she said 'without deflation - just taking the

implants out intact', so I guess ease was not her motivator. I am

coming to the conclustion that she thinks she is soooo sure she

knows myself better than I do - she really thinks I won't like how I

look because I bet she thinks small breasted women just can never

look good. She herself has rather large ones, and I doubt they are

genuine - and she keeps referring to her 20 yrs experience, and most

of the time when she has explanted, the women are back in surgery in

no time to get them in again. I definitely am NOT going to deflate

that is for sure. It seems pointless, dangerous and creepy to walk

around with those bags in and leaking tiny bits of fluid. Since the

first ps lied about how my procedure was done, we also don't really

know for sure WHAT kind of implants I have either, so that makes it

even riskier! It's soo great how you all help my decision making

process! Have you all seen those cell phone commercials where the

network travels with the person - that is how I feel with the

plastic surgeons, lol. Dozens of you ladies standing behind me

going 'now, wait a minute, doc'.....

The bra thing conerns me though, more than other things. I may NOT

heed her advice on this and get info from dr. melmed and you all on

what you wore. The first time she mentioned I could wear an

underwire after explant that was sheer cotton, but I always thought

underwire was bad after breast surgery. She prefers I wear

nothing. I just bought two A cup bras today. one is just soft

cotton, unlined.

>

> shannon

>

> I would definitely agree with patty here - I can really think of

no really

> good reasons why this doctor is insistent on these things and the

bra thing I

> have never heard of.... I have had to wear sports bras at the very

minimum w/

> all my surgeries including explant.... I would have no idea what

logic would

> be involved in not wearing one at all for 6 months... I had my

implants for 7

> years and went thru a pregnancy and breast fed for 9 months where

they grew

> huge..... my explant was a year later where I did not get a lift

for

> financial reasons plus my doc did not think I would need one and

he was right... I

> did not require one at all even with all that stretching - all

women are

> different and some will require lifts - just depends on your skin

and implant

> size, etc. After seeing my implants after removal and knowing

all the garbage

> and mold, etc,. that was inside of them there is no way I would

have wanted to

> take the chance of any ore of that mess getting released into my

body than

> necessary.

>

> What would worry me here if I were you, if her insistence in this

issue - I

> have never heard of this being done in several years of being

involved

> here.... it would seem to me that it may be the fact that it will

make the surgery

> easier for her this way which makes sense, but I would also want

to make sure

> that if you are not comfortable with doing it the way she is

suggesting, she

> is capable of doing a proper procedure the other way as well....

seems to me

> that she has been really pushing this idea which would make me

want to

> question why this is.... I am sure she is a fine doctor and I can

not give medical

> advice or judge but if it were my doctor - these are the thoughts

I would be

> thinking....

> is there some reason she is not comfortable with removing them

intact? will

> there be risks this way? if so, why? Just make sure you ask all

the

> questions and have all your bases covered so you are totally

prepared for your

> surgery and outcome. My doctor wasn't well known but he removed

mine completely

> intact and left very minimal scarring and was completely on

target as far as

> me not needing a lift... he could have cost me a lot more money

but said he

> really did not think I needed it. Now - he didn't do everything

right and

> therefore i am having to go back in but I also didn't pay him

very much and for

> my $$ I think I got what I paid for... he also helped w/ my

insurance. you

> have to make sure you are comfortable w/ your doctor - this is

key....

> my opinions only, of course....

>

> shari

>

[Guest guest]

-Underwire!!!! No way that would be comfortable, soft is best, I wore

a bra that was soft and was kinda small on me with the implants, I

mean it fir but they will coming out all over so I figured after the

surgery it would fit just right and it did, I was really broke by the

time I had my surgery and couldn't even afford the hebiclense,

vitamins, that I was suppose to use three days before surgery, so I

couldn't afford to even go buy a new bra,

Terri P

-- In , " Emerald Kittee "

<emeraldkittee@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks, Shari. Good points - I know, I totally agree with you. I

> too thought that she was pushing the deflation because it made it

> easier for her - when I asked her under which conditions it was

> easier to operate she said 'without deflation - just taking the

> implants out intact', so I guess ease was not her motivator. I am

> coming to the conclustion that she thinks she is soooo sure she

> knows myself better than I do - she really thinks I won't like how

I

> look because I bet she thinks small breasted women just can never

> look good. She herself has rather large ones, and I doubt they are

> genuine - and she keeps referring to her 20 yrs experience, and

most

> of the time when she has explanted, the women are back in surgery

in

> no time to get them in again. I definitely am NOT going to deflate

> that is for sure. It seems pointless, dangerous and creepy to walk

> around with those bags in and leaking tiny bits of fluid. Since

the

> first ps lied about how my procedure was done, we also don't really

> know for sure WHAT kind of implants I have either, so that makes it

> even riskier! It's soo great how you all help my decision making

> process! Have you all seen those cell phone commercials where the

> network travels with the person - that is how I feel with the

> plastic surgeons, lol. Dozens of you ladies standing behind me

> going 'now, wait a minute, doc'.....

>

> The bra thing conerns me though, more than other things. I may NOT

> heed her advice on this and get info from dr. melmed and you all on

> what you wore. The first time she mentioned I could wear an

> underwire after explant that was sheer cotton, but I always thought

> underwire was bad after breast surgery. She prefers I wear

> nothing. I just bought two A cup bras today. one is just soft

> cotton, unlined.

>

>

> >

> > shannon

> >

> > I would definitely agree with patty here - I can really think of

> no really

> > good reasons why this doctor is insistent on these things and the

> bra thing I

> > have never heard of.... I have had to wear sports bras at the

very

> minimum w/

> > all my surgeries including explant.... I would have no idea what

> logic would

> > be involved in not wearing one at all for 6 months... I had my

> implants for 7

> > years and went thru a pregnancy and breast fed for 9 months

where

> they grew

> > huge..... my explant was a year later where I did not get a

lift

> for

> > financial reasons plus my doc did not think I would need one and

> he was right... I

> > did not require one at all even with all that stretching - all

> women are

> > different and some will require lifts - just depends on your

skin

> and implant

> > size, etc. After seeing my implants after removal and knowing

> all the garbage

> > and mold, etc,. that was inside of them there is no way I would

> have wanted to

> > take the chance of any ore of that mess getting released into my

> body than

> > necessary.

> >

> > What would worry me here if I were you, if her insistence in this

> issue - I

> > have never heard of this being done in several years of being

> involved

> > here.... it would seem to me that it may be the fact that it

will

> make the surgery

> > easier for her this way which makes sense, but I would also want

> to make sure

> > that if you are not comfortable with doing it the way she is

> suggesting, she

> > is capable of doing a proper procedure the other way as well....

> seems to me

> > that she has been really pushing this idea which would make me

> want to

> > question why this is.... I am sure she is a fine doctor and I

can

> not give medical

> > advice or judge but if it were my doctor - these are the thoughts

> I would be

> > thinking....

> > is there some reason she is not comfortable with removing them

> intact? will

> > there be risks this way? if so, why? Just make sure you ask

all

> the

> > questions and have all your bases covered so you are totally

> prepared for your

> > surgery and outcome. My doctor wasn't well known but he removed

> mine completely

> > intact and left very minimal scarring and was completely on

> target as far as

> > me not needing a lift... he could have cost me a lot more money

> but said he

> > really did not think I needed it. Now - he didn't do everything

> right and

> > therefore i am having to go back in but I also didn't pay him

> very much and for

> > my $$ I think I got what I paid for... he also helped w/ my

> insurance. you

> > have to make sure you are comfortable w/ your doctor - this is

> key....

> > my opinions only, of course....

> >

> > shari

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi again

well - I have to say I am a little relieved.... I had to walk around with one deflated breast for less than a week and it was totally grossing me out... I can not imagine doing it for several week but that is just me... and this was way before I knew they had garbage growing inside them. Knowing what I know now - the mess that was inside of mine when they were removed??? I would never consider having them drained and walking around like that as letting a drop more of that fluid get inside of me than absolutely necessary... of course yours could be completely uncontaminated but it still grosses me out to think of it... that bag felt really nasty rolling around in there for sure....

and the fact that she was mentioning the braless thing is just weird.... my doc was very firm about tight bandages then tight sports bras for weeks before I could wear a regular bra to support to tissue and I would guess keep pressure on the area to avoid bleeding.... and the idea of underwire is crazy to me.... I have been explanted for over 3 years and still find it extremely hard to wear underwire..... it is not comfy at all.... I wear soft bras with plenty of support - the soft boning but not wire and certainly not after the surgery. I wore the sports bras for at least 4 weeks... I had a total of 4 breast surgeries and in all of them I was told to do the sports bra thing for at least a month. I am almost thinking telling you to go braless right after an explant is just begging for a lift down the road before you have had a chance to heal.... just doesn't sound right to me to not have that firm support.... of course I am not the doctor here....

good luck with whatever you decide!! I am glad you are leaning against the draining, though... sounds weird...

shari

[Guest guest]

Yes, thanks Shari. And if I go with this ps, I might even just wear

the type of bra that everyone here has, and do research on that. I

really can't imagine her logic either. I can see not wearing an

underwire, or demi or something that would contort the tissue, but

something supportive and soft that holds the tissue in seems ideal.

I did have the awful thought of 'could it be she is suggesting it so

I do have problems and need another surgery?' but I don't think that

is the case. It does still trouble me though and she does want me to

wear shirts wth those little shelf bra things - but honestly, I

cannot buy a whole new wardrobe with those kinds of shirts only. I

may tell her I have a friend who was explanted (I haven't told her

about this group) and that she wore a sports bra and see what her

response is. I did leave her a message tonight saying that deflation

was not right for me.

Yuk, you poor thing having to have one deflated in you for awhile -

that must have been so hard to sleep and shower, etc! And you had a

bandage after the surgery? Gosh I wonder if I would leave with a

full bandage on or what? Oh, she asked me if I was tightly bandaged

after my implant and I said yes - she didn't seem to agree with

having them on for as long as I did - so, it's something with her

philosophy of healing - even with implants she takes the bandage off

fairly soon.

I am looking forward to the lympathic massages though - pricey as

they will be and making time 3 xs a week for them - it will be a

nice feeling to just visualize all the toxins leaving.

>

> Hi again

>

> well - I have to say I am a little relieved.... I had to walk

around with

> one deflated breast for less than a week and it was totally

grossing me out...

> I can not imagine doing it for several week but that is just me...

and this

> was way before I knew they had garbage growing inside them.

Knowing what I

> know now - the mess that was inside of mine when they were

removed??? I would

> never consider having them drained and walking around like that as

letting a

> drop more of that fluid get inside of me than absolutely

necessary... of

> course yours could be completely uncontaminated but it still

grosses me out to

> think of it... that bag felt really nasty rolling around in there

for sure....

>

> and the fact that she was mentioning the braless thing is just

weird.... my

> doc was very firm about tight bandages then tight sports bras for

weeks before

> I could wear a regular bra to support to tissue and I would guess

keep

> pressure on the area to avoid bleeding.... and the idea of

underwire is crazy to

> me.... I have been explanted for over 3 years and still find it

extremely hard

> to wear underwire..... it is not comfy at all.... I wear soft

bras with

> plenty of support - the soft boning but not wire and certainly

not after the

> surgery. I wore the sports bras for at least 4 weeks... I had a

total of 4 breast

> surgeries and in all of them I was told to do the sports bra

thing for at

> least a month. I am almost thinking telling you to go braless

right after an

> explant is just begging for a lift down the road before you have

had a chance

> to heal.... just doesn't sound right to me to not have that firm

support....

> of course I am not the doctor here....

>

> good luck with whatever you decide!! I am glad you are leaning

against the

> draining, though... sounds weird...

>

> shari

>

[Guest guest]

I remember they gave me 2 bras after implants - they were really

unique - very tight and totally sheer, maybe nylon or something. I

believe they were Maidenform, but I never saw anything like it

since. It would be great for explant too, I guess.

-

> > >

> > > shannon

> > >

> > > I would definitely agree with patty here - I can really think

of

> > no really

> > > good reasons why this doctor is insistent on these things and

the

> > bra thing I

> > > have never heard of.... I have had to wear sports bras at the

> very

> > minimum w/

> > > all my surgeries including explant.... I would have no idea

what

> > logic would

> > > be involved in not wearing one at all for 6 months... I had

my

> > implants for 7

> > > years and went thru a pregnancy and breast fed for 9 months

> where

> > they grew

> > > huge..... my explant was a year later where I did not get a

> lift

> > for

> > > financial reasons plus my doc did not think I would need one

and

> > he was right... I

> > > did not require one at all even with all that stretching -

all

> > women are

> > > different and some will require lifts - just depends on your

> skin

> > and implant

> > > size, etc. After seeing my implants after removal and

knowing

> > all the garbage

> > > and mold, etc,. that was inside of them there is no way I

would

> > have wanted to

> > > take the chance of any ore of that mess getting released into

my

> > body than

> > > necessary.

> > >

> > > What would worry me here if I were you, if her insistence in

this

> > issue - I

> > > have never heard of this being done in several years of being

> > involved

> > > here.... it would seem to me that it may be the fact that it

> will

> > make the surgery

> > > easier for her this way which makes sense, but I would also

want

> > to make sure

> > > that if you are not comfortable with doing it the way she is

> > suggesting, she

> > > is capable of doing a proper procedure the other way as

well....

> > seems to me

> > > that she has been really pushing this idea which would make

me

> > want to

> > > question why this is.... I am sure she is a fine doctor and I

> can

> > not give medical

> > > advice or judge but if it were my doctor - these are the

thoughts

> > I would be

> > > thinking....

> > > is there some reason she is not comfortable with removing

them

> > intact? will

> > > there be risks this way? if so, why? Just make sure you ask

> all

> > the

> > > questions and have all your bases covered so you are totally

> > prepared for your

> > > surgery and outcome. My doctor wasn't well known but he

removed

> > mine completely

> > > intact and left very minimal scarring and was completely on

> > target as far as

> > > me not needing a lift... he could have cost me a lot more

money

> > but said he

> > > really did not think I needed it. Now - he didn't do

everything

> > right and

> > > therefore i am having to go back in but I also didn't pay him

> > very much and for

> > > my $$ I think I got what I paid for... he also helped w/ my

> > insurance. you

> > > have to make sure you are comfortable w/ your doctor - this

is

> > key....

> > > my opinions only, of course....

> > >

> > > shari

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dr. Melmed recommended a plain cotton sports bra and said that Walmart

made good ones. I went to Walmart and sure enough, they had a very nice

" Bestform " bra. The front hook closure was very important -- I didn't

have to reach around or even lift my arms to put the bra on. It was

under 4 dollars, I think. Even though my breasts are very small, I

needed that support and the " cheap " Walmart bra was perfect. Now I wear

a Lily of France bra only -- it has memory foam padding and support, no

underwire. Something about the memory foam gives me a nice breast shape

and even though I am not a full A cup, this A fills IN to fit my breast

shape, as well as out. It feels great, looks like all me, and keeps the

'lil sisters nice an cradeled during the day. I am two months out and I

can't imagine wearing underwire yet.

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Good for you, Dawn.

I have never shopped at Walmart, though, and never will, unless they change

management

practices. ;-)

>

> Dr. Melmed recommended a plain cotton sports bra and said that Walmart

> made good ones. I went to Walmart and sure enough, they had a very nice

> " Bestform " bra. The front hook closure was very important -- I didn't

> have to reach around or even lift my arms to put the bra on. It was

> under 4 dollars, I think. Even though my breasts are very small, I

> needed that support and the " cheap " Walmart bra was perfect. Now I wear

> a Lily of France bra only -- it has memory foam padding and support, no

> underwire. Something about the memory foam gives me a nice breast shape

> and even though I am not a full A cup, this A fills IN to fit my breast

> shape, as well as out. It feels great, looks like all me, and keeps the

> 'lil sisters nice an cradeled during the day. I am two months out and I

> can't imagine wearing underwire yet.

>

> Dawn

>