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I did try guai, but as I am not sold on the theory of how it works, I did not do the anti-salicylate protocol. I found that it did greatly lessen my pain-- supposedly it has muscle-relaxing properties-- but it also made me feel very spacey and groggy.

I may try it again some time, if I don't see significant improvement with what I am doing. There are some people who use guai without the protocol, and have had success.

As far as silica, I don't believe it is a harmful ingredient, unless you happen to breathe it in powder form. Some forms, like horsetail, are good for the skin. It is often confused with silicone, which has a different chemical structure.

I haven't tried the Maker's Diet. I did once receive a free copy as a promotion from a vitamin company, and I gave it away without looking at it closely. I might take another look. From what I gather from discussions, the diet sounds very down-to-earth and common sense-oriented.

If you don't have a lot of money to spend on supplements, I'd buy these at least if you can: a good absorbable magnesium, like magnesium chloride (take it 1/1 with calcium), acetyl-L-carnitine, L-arginine, alpha lipoic acid, Co-Q-10, fish oil, green tea supplements, and eat raw garlic.

Bindi

Re: Post-implants aches and pains

Hi Bindi,Thank you so much for the list. At the moment I stopped everything I was talking and am starting from scratch. I need to start slow because I react to a lot of things. Any suggestion on what you would start with first to help with the brain fog? although the neck pain is really bad right now I really need to be albe to concentrate for work. Do you follow a specific diet like the Makers Diet or just your own thing? Do you juice a lot? I felt like juicing was making me spacy but it could have been anything. You seem really informed on the things you are trying. I saw you were taking the guaifenesin how did that go? Do you think there is any value in avoiding saliclyates? Do you make sure there is no silica/silicone in supplements ect? I realized that my body cream had silica in it and now I was afraid to use it. I really appreciate your feedback. Lynn>> and Lynn,> I know what you mean about aches and pains and all the other evils. I am a little over one year post explant and pain has lingered with me more than anything else. I have noticed a HUGE improvement with the following supplements:> > Raw garlic, three or four cloves crushed and eaten with food> L-Arginine 2,500 mg> L-Ornithine 1,500 mg> Fish Oil 5 grams> Co-Enzyme Q10, 200 mg> Acetyl -L Carnitine, 2,000 mg> Alpha Lipoic Acid, 800 mg> Magnesium Chloride, 400 mg > Calcium Citrate, 200 mg> > I take other supplements as well (see below), but those above are the ones I added recently that have really lessened my pain. I have done a considerable amount of research on them and in general, they all positively impact the body's cells, helping to strengthen and process energy better. The magnesium/calcium ratio is different than what most people take, but there is evidence that fibromyalgics need more mag-- you can read more about this here:> http://stuff.mit.edu/people/london/magnesium.html . You also may need vitamin D, if you don't live in a sunny clime and get out every day. > > Exercise REALLY must be a part of the program. If you can't do much, try and walk half an hour every day. A big part of fibro symptoms come from lack of circulation.> > The other supplements I take are as follows:> Inositol 1,000 mg(mood stabilizer and according to Kolb, helps process silicone out of the body)> A good multi> Benfotiamine (helps stabilize blood sugar)> Reseveratrol, 300 mg ( a potent antioxident from grapes)> Decaf Green Tea extract, 2 caps(many health benefits)> Gotu Kola caps, 4 per day(good for brain cell repair)> Maitake mushroom caps, 4/day(many general health bennies)> Reishi mushroom caps, 4/day( many health bennies)> Ashwaganda caps, 4/day (good for cell repair and to restore energy)> Tumeric powder, 1 teaspoon in carrot juice (helps inflammation)> Modified Citrus Pectin, two teaspoons/day(for heavy metal chelation)> 5-htp, 50 mg, at night> > I powder my herbs and cap them myself. I also eat a very clean diet with lots of fruits and vegies. I know this is a long list, and not everyone will want to take this many supplements. I am not 100% recovered, but my pain, energy levels and other difficulties are greatly improved. > > Bindi>

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Eek! Not Magnesium chloride? You mean magnesium carbonate or magnesium citrate, don't you?

A good absorbable magnesium is Ionic Fizz

http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=PUR-03102

Patty

Re: Post-implants aches and pains

Hi Bindi,Thank you so much for the list. At the moment I stopped everything I was talking and am starting from scratch. I need to start slow because I react to a lot of things. Any suggestion on what you would start with first to help with the brain fog? although the neck pain is really bad right now I really need to be albe to concentrate for work. Do you follow a specific diet like the Makers Diet or just your own thing? Do you juice a lot? I felt like juicing was making me spacy but it could have been anything. You seem really informed on the things you are trying. I saw you were taking the guaifenesin how did that go? Do you think there is any value in avoiding saliclyates? Do you make sure there is no silica/silicone in supplements ect? I realized that my body cream had silica in it and now I was afraid to use it. I really appreciate your feedback. Lynn>> and Lynn,> I know what you mean about aches and pains and all the other evils. I am a little over one year post explant and pain has lingered with me more than anything else. I have noticed a HUGE improvement with the following supplements:> > Raw garlic, three or four cloves crushed and eaten with food> L-Arginine 2,500 mg> L-Ornithine 1,500 mg> Fish Oil 5 grams> Co-Enzyme Q10, 200 mg> Acetyl -L Carnitine, 2,000 mg> Alpha Lipoic Acid, 800 mg> Magnesium Chloride, 400 mg > Calcium Citrate, 200 mg> > I take other supplements as well (see below), but those above are the ones I added recently that have really lessened my pain. I have done a considerable amount of research on them and in general, they

all positively impact the body's cells, helping to strengthen and process energy better. The magnesium/calcium ratio is different than what most people take, but there is evidence that fibromyalgics need more mag-- you can read more about this here:> http://stuff. mit.edu/people/ london/magnesium .html . You also may need vitamin D, if you don't live in a sunny clime and get out every day. > > Exercise REALLY must be a part of the program. If you can't do much, try and walk half an hour every day. A big part of fibro symptoms come from lack of circulation.> > The other supplements I take are as follows:> Inositol 1,000 mg(mood stabilizer and according to Kolb, helps process silicone out of the body)> A good multi> Benfotiamine (helps stabilize blood sugar)> Reseveratrol, 300 mg ( a

potent antioxident from grapes)> Decaf Green Tea extract, 2 caps(many health benefits)> Gotu Kola caps, 4 per day(good for brain cell repair)> Maitake mushroom caps, 4/day(many general health bennies)> Reishi mushroom caps, 4/day( many health bennies)> Ashwaganda caps, 4/day (good for cell repair and to restore energy)> Tumeric powder, 1 teaspoon in carrot juice (helps inflammation)> Modified Citrus Pectin, two teaspoons/day( for heavy metal chelation)> 5-htp, 50 mg, at night> > I powder my herbs and cap them myself. I also eat a very clean diet with lots of fruits and vegies. I know this is a long list, and not everyone will want to take this many supplements. I am not 100% recovered, but my pain, energy levels and other difficulties are greatly improved. > > Bindi>

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Our body needs natrual silica - as from vegetables - not the tyoe that comes from mines. Horsetail is great! Rogene

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Copied below is an excerpt from an article about magnesium (and recommending magnesium chloride, among others) by the head of the neurosciences dept at MIT. You can read the whole article here:

http://stuff.mit.edu/people/london/magnesium.html

Another about magnesium chloride and how it helps various diseases:

http://users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/magnesiumchloride.html

My doctor, who is holistically-inclined, prescribed magnesium chloride to me in liquid form. The brand I used is Nutricology, which I get from my local compounding pharmacist. Is there some reason to avoid it? I haven't found anything anywhere.

Bindi

If you are considering taking magnesium, please note that not all forms are the same. Magnesium oxide is one of the most common, but studies have shown it to be poorly absorbed, due to low solubility. Poorly absorbed magnesium results in a laxative effect. Studies show that other common forms, such as citrate, chloride, aspartate, are all better absorbed. However, some people instead recommend chelated forms, believing that they are the best absorbed.. Although in theory this might be true, surprisingly there are no published studies to back up this claim. Significant improvements in absorption might be better obtained by how the magnesium is taken, i.e. by using small doses, as the body can only absorb so much as a time, and by avoiding taking magnesium with foods that are high in phytic acid, such as whole wheat, which might bind to the magnesium.

If one brand of magnesium does not work for you, or if you experience a side effect, consider switching to a different brand, as the substance which is combined with the magnesium may be the cause of the side effect. Many people have found that liquid forms of magnesium help when pills do not help.. This is probably due to increased solubility. There are various forms of liquid magnesium, i.e. magnesium chloride, gluconate, and citrate. Magnesium chloride is well absorbed, although the liquid form has to be kept refrigerated. Liquid gluocate (magonate) contains not only a lot of glucose, but several additives to make it taste better, and also a perservative to keep it from spoiling. Liquid magnesium citrate is the most common liquid form.. Some people believe that magnesium citrate is not well absorbed, and point to the fact that magnesium citrate is marketed as a laxative. On the other hand, almost any form of magnesium, taken in excess, will cause a laxative effect. Magnesium citrate is probably used as a laxative, simply because it's an inexpensive form, and very soluable.

Another form which some people find very useful is the time released version. Having a steady source of magnesium has been found to help in cases where plain magnesium did not help. One can do this by taking lots of small doses, especially if one uses a liquid form, but this is inconvenient. Time released supposedly is absorbed over a 8-10 hour period. There are 2 available forms, magnesium chloride and magnesium lactate Two brands are available which contain magnesium chloride, Slow Mag and Pro-Mag. Slow Mag contains several additives that Pro-Mag does not. Plus, Slow Mag is enteric coated, which is done to avoid a stomach upset.. However, one study suggests that this may prevent proper absorption. Pro-Mag is made by Laboratories, and I personally have had good results with it. Another good alternative is Mag-Tab. It contains magnesium lactate, and has been reported by some people to be better absorbed than magnesium chloride. However, since it contains lactose, people who are lactose intolerant cannot use it. Time released forms are more expensive, so many people recommend a combination of pills and time released, and it may be more effective to combine a slow acting form with a quickly acting form.

Taking magnesium with calcium is suggested because the 2 minerals work together in buildling bones, plus the calcium can offset some of the laxative effect. Traditionally, it's been recommended to take calcium and magnesium in a ratio of 2/1, as that is the ratio of the RDA of calcium and magnesium. However, magnesium is often poorly absorbed, so many doctors believe the ratio should be closer to 1/1.

Re: Post-implants aches and pains

Hi Bindi,Thank you so much for the list. At the moment I stopped everything I was talking and am starting from scratch. I need to start slow because I react to a lot of things. Any suggestion on what you would start with first to help with the brain fog? although the neck pain is really bad right now I really need to be albe to concentrate for work. Do you follow a specific diet like the Makers Diet or just your own thing? Do you juice a lot? I felt like juicing was making me spacy but it could have been anything. You seem really informed on the things you are trying. I saw you were taking the guaifenesin how did that go? Do you think there is any value in avoiding saliclyates? Do you make sure there is no silica/silicone in supplements ect? I realized that my body cream had silica in it and now I was afraid to use it. I really appreciate your feedback. Lynn>> and Lynn,> I know what you mean about aches and pains and all the other evils. I am a little over one year post explant and pain has lingered with me more than anything else. I have noticed a HUGE improvement with the following supplements:> > Raw garlic, three or four cloves crushed and eaten with food> L-Arginine 2,500 mg> L-Ornithine 1,500 mg> Fish Oil 5 grams> Co-Enzyme Q10, 200 mg> Acetyl -L Carnitine, 2,000 mg> Alpha Lipoic Acid, 800 mg> Magnesium Chloride, 400 mg > Calcium Citrate, 200 mg> > I take other supplements as well (see below), but those above are the ones I added recently that have really lessened my pain. I have done a considerable amount of research on them and in general, they all positively impact the body's cells, helping to strengthen and process energy better. The magnesium/calcium ratio is different than what most people take, but there is evidence that fibromyalgics need more mag-- you can read more about this here:> http://stuff. mit.edu/people/ london/magnesium .html . You also may need vitamin D, if you don't live in a sunny clime and get out every day. > > Exercise REALLY must be a part of the program. If you can't do much, try and walk half an hour every day. A big part of fibro symptoms come from lack of circulation.> > The other supplements I take are as follows:> Inositol 1,000 mg(mood stabilizer and according to Kolb, helps process silicone out of the body)> A good multi> Benfotiamine (helps stabilize blood sugar)> Reseveratrol, 300 mg ( a potent antioxident from grapes)> Decaf Green Tea extract, 2 caps(many health benefits)> Gotu Kola caps, 4 per day(good for brain cell repair)> Maitake mushroom caps, 4/day(many general health bennies)> Reishi mushroom caps, 4/day( many health bennies)> Ashwaganda caps, 4/day (good for cell repair and to restore energy)> Tumeric powder, 1 teaspoon in carrot juice (helps inflammation)> Modified Citrus Pectin, two teaspoons/day( for heavy metal chelation)> 5-htp, 50 mg, at night> > I powder my herbs and cap them myself. I also eat a very clean diet with lots of fruits and vegies. I know this is a long list, and not everyone will want to take this many supplements. I am not 100% recovered, but my pain, energy levels and other difficulties are greatly improved. > > Bindi>

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Thanks Bindi....that was very informative and I'm going to look into this for my fibro! freebindi <bindi@...> wrote: Copied below is an excerpt from an article about magnesium (and recommending magnesium chloride, among others) by the head of the neurosciences dept at MIT. You can read the whole article here: http://stuff.mit.edu/people/london/magnesium.html Another about magnesium chloride and how it helps various diseases: http://users.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/magnesiumchloride.html My doctor, who is holistically-inclined, prescribed magnesium chloride to me in liquid form. The brand I used is Nutricology, which I get from my local compounding pharmacist. Is there some reason to avoid it? I haven't found anything anywhere. Bindi If you are considering taking magnesium, please note that not all forms are the

same. Magnesium oxide is one of the most common, but studies have shown it to be poorly absorbed, due to low solubility. Poorly absorbed magnesium results in a laxative effect. Studies show that other common forms, such as citrate, chloride, aspartate, are all better absorbed. However, some people instead recommend chelated forms, believing that they are the best absorbed.. Although in theory this might be true, surprisingly there are no published studies to back up this claim. Significant improvements in absorption might be better obtained by how the magnesium is taken, i.e. by using small doses, as the body can only absorb so much as a time, and by avoiding taking magnesium with foods that are high in phytic acid, such as whole wheat, which might bind to the magnesium. If one brand of magnesium does not work for you, or if you experience a side effect, consider switching to a different brand, as the substance

which is combined with the magnesium may be the cause of the side effect. Many people have found that liquid forms of magnesium help when pills do not help.. This is probably due to increased solubility. There are various forms of liquid magnesium, i.e. magnesium chloride, gluconate, and citrate. Magnesium chloride is well absorbed, although the liquid form has to be kept refrigerated. Liquid gluocate (magonate) contains not only a lot of glucose, but several additives to make it taste better, and also a perservative to keep it from spoiling. Liquid magnesium citrate is the most common liquid form.. Some people believe that magnesium citrate is not well absorbed, and point to the fact that magnesium citrate is marketed as a laxative. On the other hand, almost any form of magnesium, taken in excess, will cause a laxative effect. Magnesium citrate is probably used as a laxative, simply because it's an inexpensive form,

and very soluable. Another form which some people find very useful is the time released version. Having a steady source of magnesium has been found to help in cases where plain magnesium did not help. One can do this by taking lots of small doses, especially if one uses a liquid form, but this is inconvenient. Time released supposedly is absorbed over a 8-10 hour period. There are 2 available forms, magnesium chloride and magnesium lactate Two brands are available which contain magnesium chloride, Slow Mag and Pro-Mag. Slow Mag contains several additives that Pro-Mag does not. Plus, Slow Mag is enteric coated, which is done to avoid a stomach upset.. However, one study suggests that this may prevent proper absorption. Pro-Mag is made by Laboratories, and I personally have had good results with it. Another good alternative is Mag-Tab. It contains magnesium lactate, and has been

reported by some people to be better absorbed than magnesium chloride. However, since it contains lactose, people who are lactose intolerant cannot use it. Time released forms are more expensive, so many people recommend a combination of pills and time released, and it may be more effective to combine a slow acting form with a quickly acting form. Taking magnesium with calcium is suggested because the 2 minerals work together in buildling bones, plus the calcium can offset some of the laxative effect. Traditionally, it's been recommended to take calcium and magnesium in a ratio of 2/1, as that is the ratio of the RDA of calcium and magnesium. However, magnesium is often poorly absorbed, so many doctors believe the ratio should be closer to 1/1. Re: Post-implants aches and pains Hi Bindi,Thank you so much for the list. At the moment I stopped everything I was talking and am starting from scratch. I need to start slow because I react to a lot of things. Any suggestion on what you would start with first to help with the brain fog? although the neck pain is really bad right now I really need to be albe to concentrate for work. Do you follow a specific diet like the Makers Diet or just your own thing? Do you juice a lot? I felt like juicing was making me spacy but it could have been anything. You seem really informed on the things you are trying. I saw you were taking the guaifenesin how did that go? Do you think there is any value in avoiding

saliclyates? Do you make sure there is no silica/silicone in supplements ect? I realized that my body cream had silica in it and now I was afraid to use it. I really appreciate your feedback. Lynn>> and Lynn,> I know what you mean about aches and pains and all the other evils. I am a little over one year post explant and pain has lingered with me more than anything else. I have noticed a HUGE improvement with the following supplements:> > Raw garlic, three or four cloves crushed and eaten with food> L-Arginine 2,500 mg> L-Ornithine 1,500 mg> Fish Oil 5 grams> Co-Enzyme Q10, 200 mg> Acetyl -L Carnitine, 2,000 mg> Alpha Lipoic Acid, 800 mg> Magnesium Chloride, 400 mg > Calcium Citrate,

200 mg> > I take other supplements as well (see below), but those above are the ones I added recently that have really lessened my pain. I have done a considerable amount of research on them and in general, they all positively impact the body's cells, helping to strengthen and process energy better. The magnesium/calcium ratio is different than what most people take, but there is evidence that fibromyalgics need more mag-- you can read more about this here:> http://stuff. mit.edu/people/ london/magnesium .html . You also may need vitamin D, if you don't live in a sunny clime and get out every day. > > Exercise REALLY must be a part of the program. If you can't do much, try and walk half an hour every day. A big part of fibro symptoms come from lack of circulation.> > The other supplements I take

are as follows:> Inositol 1,000 mg(mood stabilizer and according to Kolb, helps process silicone out of the body)> A good multi> Benfotiamine (helps stabilize blood sugar)> Reseveratrol, 300 mg ( a potent antioxident from grapes)> Decaf Green Tea extract, 2 caps(many health benefits)> Gotu Kola caps, 4 per day(good for brain cell repair)> Maitake mushroom caps, 4/day(many general health bennies)> Reishi mushroom caps, 4/day( many health bennies)> Ashwaganda caps, 4/day (good for cell repair and to restore energy)> Tumeric powder, 1 teaspoon in carrot juice (helps inflammation)> Modified Citrus Pectin, two teaspoons/day( for heavy metal chelation)> 5-htp, 50 mg, at night> > I powder my herbs and cap them myself. I also eat a very clean diet with lots of fruits and vegies. I know this is a long list, and not everyone will want to take this many supplements. I am

not 100% recovered, but my pain, energy levels and other difficulties are greatly improved. > > Bindi> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006 3:41 PM Everyone is raving about the all-new beta. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.15/581 - Release Date: 12/9/2006

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It was probably my knee jerk reaction to the chloride molecule, which made me think more of chlorine the gas, but it wasn't without reason. Magnesium chloride has a material data safety sheet, http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m0156.htm and does have some industrial uses I guess, and that always bothers me! But, I was overreacting, and I apologize.

There is some concern over its toxicity if you take too much, so that would be the only thing I would watch:

http://www.providence.org/healthlibrary/contentViewer.aspx?hwid=d03796a1 & serviceArea=generic

What happens if I overdose?

Seek emergency medical attention.

Symptoms of an magnesium chloride overdose include nausea, vomiting, flushing, low blood pressure, a slow heartbeat, drowsiness, coma, and death.

Patty

Re: Post-implants aches and pains

Hi Bindi,Thank you so much for the list. At the moment I stopped everything I was talking and am starting from scratch. I need to start slow because I react to a lot of things. Any suggestion on what you would start with first to help with the brain fog? although the neck pain is really bad right now I really need to be albe to concentrate for work. Do you follow a specific diet like the Makers Diet or just your own thing? Do you juice a lot? I felt like juicing was making me spacy but it could have been anything. You seem really informed on the things you are trying. I saw you were taking the guaifenesin how did that go? Do you think there is any value in avoiding saliclyates? Do you make sure there is no silica/silicone in supplements ect? I realized that my body cream had silica in it and now I was afraid to use it. I really appreciate your feedback. Lynn>> and Lynn,> I know what you mean about aches and pains and all the other evils. I am a little over one year post explant and pain has lingered with me more than anything else. I have noticed a HUGE improvement with the following supplements:> > Raw garlic, three or four cloves crushed and eaten with food> L-Arginine 2,500 mg> L-Ornithine 1,500 mg> Fish Oil 5 grams> Co-Enzyme Q10, 200 mg> Acetyl -L Carnitine, 2,000 mg> Alpha Lipoic Acid, 800 mg> Magnesium Chloride, 400 mg > Calcium Citrate, 200 mg> > I take other supplements as well (see below), but those above are the ones I added recently that have really lessened my pain. I have done a considerable amount of research on them and in general, they

all positively impact the body's cells, helping to strengthen and process energy better. The magnesium/calcium ratio is different than what most people take, but there is evidence that fibromyalgics need more mag-- you can read more about this here:> http://stuff. mit.edu/people/ london/magnesium .html . You also may need vitamin D, if you don't live in a sunny clime and get out every day. > > Exercise REALLY must be a part of the program. If you can't do much, try and walk half an hour every day. A big part of fibro symptoms come from lack of circulation.> > The other supplements I take are as follows:> Inositol 1,000 mg(mood stabilizer and according to Kolb, helps process silicone out of the body)> A good multi> Benfotiamine (helps stabilize blood sugar)> Reseveratrol, 300 mg ( a

potent antioxident from grapes)> Decaf Green Tea extract, 2 caps(many health benefits)> Gotu Kola caps, 4 per day(good for brain cell repair)> Maitake mushroom caps, 4/day(many general health bennies)> Reishi mushroom caps, 4/day( many health bennies)> Ashwaganda caps, 4/day (good for cell repair and to restore energy)> Tumeric powder, 1 teaspoon in carrot juice (helps inflammation)> Modified Citrus Pectin, two teaspoons/day( for heavy metal chelation)> 5-htp, 50 mg, at night> > I powder my herbs and cap them myself. I also eat a very clean diet with lots of fruits and vegies. I know this is a long list, and not everyone will want to take this many supplements. I am not 100% recovered, but my pain, energy levels and other difficulties are greatly improved. > > Bindi>

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Magnesium gylcinate is also one of the best forms

of magnesium. Highly recommended by my ND.

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At 07:13 PM 12/10/2006, you wrote:

>Eek! Not Magnesium chloride? You mean

>magnesium carbonate or magnesium citrate, don't you?

> A good absorbable magnesium is Ionic Fizz

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>

> Re: Post-implants aches and pains

>

>Hi Bindi,

>

>Thank you so much for the list. At the moment I stopped

>everything I was talking and am starting from scratch. I need to

>start slow because I react to a lot of things. Any suggestion on

>what you would start with first to help with the brain fog?

>although the neck pain is really bad right now I really need to be

>albe to concentrate for work. Do you follow a specific diet like the

>Makers Diet or just your own thing? Do you juice a lot? I felt

>like juicing was making me spacy but it could have been anything.

>You seem really informed on the things you are trying. I saw you

>were taking the guaifenesin how did that go? Do you think there is

>any value in avoiding saliclyates? Do you make sure there is no

>silica/silicone in supplements ect? I realized that my body cream

>had silica in it and now I was afraid to use it. I really

>appreciate your feedback.

>

>Lynn

>

>

> >

> > and Lynn,

> > I know what you mean about aches and pains and all the other

>evils. I am a little over one year post explant and pain has

>lingered with me more than anything else. I have noticed a HUGE

>improvement with the following supplements:

> >

> > Raw garlic, three or four cloves crushed and eaten with food

> > L-Arginine 2,500 mg

> > L-Ornithine 1,500 mg

> > Fish Oil 5 grams

> > Co-Enzyme Q10, 200 mg

> > Acetyl -L Carnitine, 2,000 mg

> > Alpha Lipoic Acid, 800 mg

> > Magnesium Chloride, 400 mg

> > Calcium Citrate, 200 mg

> >

> > I take other supplements as well (see below), but those above are

>the ones I added recently that have really lessened my pain. I have

>done a considerable amount of research on them and in general, they

>all positively impact the body's cells, helping to strengthen and

>process energy better. The magnesium/calcium ratio is different than

>what most people take, but there is evidence that fibromyalgics need

>more mag-- you can read more about this here:

> >

> <http://stuff.mit.edu/people/london/magnesium.html>http://stuff.

> mit.edu/people/ london/magnesium .html . You also may

>need vitamin D, if you don't live in a sunny clime and get out every

>day.

> >

> > Exercise REALLY must be a part of the program. If you can't do

>much, try and walk half an hour every day. A big part of fibro

>symptoms come from lack of circulation.

> >

> > The other supplements I take are as follows:

> > Inositol 1,000 mg(mood stabilizer and according to Kolb, helps

>process silicone out of the body)

> > A good multi

> > Benfotiamine (helps stabilize blood sugar)

> > Reseveratrol, 300 mg ( a potent antioxident from grapes)

> > Decaf Green Tea extract, 2 caps(many health benefits)

> > Gotu Kola caps, 4 per day(good for brain cell repair)

> > Maitake mushroom caps, 4/day(many general health bennies)

> > Reishi mushroom caps, 4/day( many health bennies)

> > Ashwaganda caps, 4/day (good for cell repair and to restore energy)

> > Tumeric powder, 1 teaspoon in carrot juice (helps inflammation)

> > Modified Citrus Pectin, two teaspoons/day( for heavy metal

>chelation)

> > 5-htp, 50 mg, at night

> >

> > I powder my herbs and cap them myself. I also eat a very clean

>diet with lots of fruits and vegies. I know this is a long list, and

>not everyone will want to take this many supplements. I am not 100%

>recovered, but my pain, energy levels and other difficulties are

>greatly improved.

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