Re: Patty -- Gerson -- Vegetarianism

September 14, 2006

Patty,

Have you ever treated with a Gerson doc? It all makes sense!

I do have a question about consuming so much juice -- doesn't it cause the

blood sugar to spike because of all of the sugar in the juice?

Do you eat a mostly vegetarian diet? I have been thinking about eating less

meats. I have been reading up on dietary requirements for vegetarians. I

couldn't switch totally over but I think it would be healthier to eat meat

as a condiment, rather than a main dish. As it is, we only have read meat

once every few weeks but I do serve chicken or fish most every night.

Kenda

> http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp

>

> Throughout our lives our bodies are being filled with a variety of disease

> and cancer causing pollutants. These toxins reach us through the air we

> breathe, the food we eat, the medicines we take and the water we drink. As

> more of these poisons are used every day and cancer rates continue to climb,

> being able to turn to a proven, natural, detoxifying treatment like the Gerson

> Therapy is not only reassuring, but necessary.

> The Gerson Therapy is a powerful, natural treatment that boosts your body's

> own immune system to heal cancer, arthritis, heart disease, allergies, and

> many other degenerative diseases. One aspect of the Gerson Therapy that sets

> it apart from most other treatment methods is its all-encompassing nature. An

> abundance of nutrients from thirteen fresh, organic juices are consumed every

> day, providing your body with a superdose of enzymes, minerals and nutrients.

> These substances then break down diseased tissue in the body, while enemas aid

> in eliminating the lifelong buildup of toxins from the liver.

> With its whole-body approach to healing, the Gerson Therapy naturally

> reactivates your body's magnificent ability to heal itself - with no damaging

> side-effects. Over 200 articles in respected medical literature, and thousands

> of people cured of their " incurable " diseases document the Gerson Therapy's

> effectiveness. The Gerson Therapy is one of the few treatments to have a 60

> year history of success.

> Although its philosophy of cleansing and reactivating the body is simple,

> the Gerson Therapy is a complex method of treatment requiring significant

> attention to detail. While many patients have made full recoveries practicing

> the Gerson Therapy on their own, for best results we encourage starting

> treatment at a Gerson Institute licensed treatment center.

> Please Note: The Gerson Institute does not own, operate, or control any

> treatment facility. We maintain a licensing program with clinics to ensure

> that patients are receiving true, 100% Gerson care. Be sure your clinic is

> Gerson Institute Licensed to provide the Gerson Therapy. Phone the Gerson

> Institute to discuss how the Gerson Therapy can help you. We will be happy to

> answer your questions. Within the U.S. call 1-888-4GERSON, outside the U.S.

> please phone 619-685-5353.

> The Gerson Therapy is a state of the art, contemporary, alternative and

> natural treatment which utilizes the body's own healing mechanism in the

> treatment and cure of chronic debilitating illness. When it was introduced to

> the world by Max Gerson, M.D., the dietary therapy was so far ahead of its

> time that there were almost no rationales available in the scientific

> literature to explain how it could produce cures in chronic as well as

> infectious diseases. But, because it did cure many cases of advanced

> tuberculosis, heart disease, cancer and numerous lesser conditions, the Gerson

> Therapy was established as a major contribution to the medical field, through

> the publication of articles in peer reviewed medical literature. Gerson first

> published on the topic of cancer in 1945, almost forty years before the

> adoption of the current official U.S. National Cancer Institute program on

> diet, nutrition, and cancer.

> Max Gerson treated many hundreds of patients and continued to develop and

> refine his therapy up until his death in 1959, at the age of 78. His most

> famous patient was Dr. Albert Schweitzer, whom Gerson cured of advanced

> diabetes when Schweitzer was 75. Schweitzer returned to his African hospital,

> won the Nobel prize, and worked past age 90. Schweitzer wrote " I see in Dr.

> Gerson one of the most eminent geniuses in the history of medicine. "

> Most recently, Dr. Gerson was recognized as a pioneer in his field when he

> was inducted into the Orthomolecular Medicine Hall of Fame in Ottawa, Canada

> on May 14, 2005. He joined seven other giants of medicine whose seminal work

> has been influential in the medical and scientific worlds, and are considered

> pioneers in their respective fields.

> It is rare to find cancer, arthritis, or other degenerative diseases in

> cultures considered " primitive " by Western civilization. Is it because of

> diet? The fact that degenerative diseases appear in these cultures only when

> modern packaged foods and additives are introduced would certainly support

> that idea. Max Gerson said " Stay close to nature and its eternal laws will

> protect you. " He considered that degenerative diseases were brought on by

> toxic, degraded food, water and air.

> The Gerson Therapy seeks to regenerate the body to health, supporting each

> important metabolic requirement by flooding the body with nutrients from

> almost 20 pounds of organically grown fruits and vegetables daily. Most is

> used to make fresh raw juice, one glass every hour, 13 times per day. Raw and

> cooked solid foods are generously consumed. Oxygenation is usually more than

> doubled, as oxygen deficiency in the blood contributes to many degenerative

> diseases. The metabolism is also stimulated through the addition of thyroid,

> potassium and other supplements, and by avoiding heavy animal fats, excess

> protein, sodium and other toxins.

> Degenerative diseases render the body increasingly unable to excrete waste

> materials adequately, commonly resulting in liver and kidney failure. To

> prevent this, the Gerson Therapy uses intensive detoxification to eliminate

> wastes, regenerate the liver, reactivate the immune system and restore the

> body's essential defenses - enzyme, mineral and hormone systems. With

> generous, high-quality nutrition, increased oxygen availability,

> detoxification, and improved metabolism, the cells - and the body - can

> regenerate, become healthy and prevent future illness.

> No treatment works for everyone, every time. Anyone who tells you otherwise

> is not giving you the facts. We know that when you have been diagnosed with a

> life-threatening ailment, choosing the best strategy for fighting your illness

> can be a bewildering task. Everyone claims to have either " the best

> treatment " , " the fastest cure " , or " the only therapy that works. " In most

> cases your trusted family physician only has knowledge of conventional

> treatments, and is either unaware of, or even hostile toward alternative

> options. No matter how many opinions you receive on how to treat your disease,

> you are going to make the final decision on what to do, and you must be

> comfortable with your decision. Choose a treatment that makes the most sense

> to you.

> Most therapies, conventional or alternative treat only the individual

> symptoms while ignoring what is ultimately causing the disease. The reason the

> Gerson Therapy is effective with so many different ailments is because it

> restores the body's incredible ability to heal itself. Rather than treating

> only the symptoms of a particular disease, the Gerson Therapy treats the cause

> of the disease itself. Although we feel the Gerson Therapy is the most

> comprehensive treatment for disease, we don't claim it will cure everything or

> everyone.

> Although the Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical

> facilities, we do refer patients to clinics which are fully licensed by the

> Gerson Institute to provide the Gerson Therapy. Whether you plan to follow the

> treatment on your own at home, would like to schedule admittance to a clinic,

> or simply have questions about the Therapy, we encourage you to contact one of

> our client service representatives at the Gerson Institute.

>

> Caution: Do not start the Gerson Therapy without the supervision of a Gerson

> practitioner if any of the following conditions apply:

>

> Chemotherapy

> Diabetes

> Brain metastases

> Severe kidney damage

> Foreign bodies such as pacemakers, breast implants, steel plates or screws.

> Patients must be able to eat, drink and eliminate normally.

> The Gerson Therapy cannot be administered to organ transplant recipients.

>

> Juicing is an essential component of the Gerson Therapy. To ensure reliable

> results, the Gerson patient will need to purchase an appropriate juicer. Dr.

> Gerson's research indicates that cancer patients must have a two- stage juicer

> with a separate grinder and hydraulic press. One-step juicers generally do not

> produce the same quality of enzyme, mineral or micronutrient content, and some

> patients have failed to experience results simply by using the wrong juicer.

> We do not recommend the use of any centrifugal-type juicers for Gerson

> patients. Other non-centrifugal juicers may be used for health maintenance or

> non-cancer diagnoses.

> If you are intersted in learning more about the press-type juicers, please

> contact the Norwalk Juicer Representatives, Boger or Gisela Summer at

> 1-800-405-8423/760-436-9684 outside the US.

>

> The Gerson diet is naturally high in vitamins, minerals, enzymes,

> micro-nutrients, extremely low in sodium and fats, and rich in fluids.

> The following is a typical daily diet for a Gerson patient on the full

> therapy regimen:

>

> Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared

> hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables.

> Three full vegetarian meals, freshly prepared from organically grown

> fruits, vegetables and whole grains. A typical meal will include salad, cooked

> vegetables, baked potatoes, vegetable soup and juice.

> Fresh fruit and fresh fruit dessert available at all hours for snacking, in

> addition to the regular diet.

>

> All medications used in connection with the Gerson Therapy are classed as

> biologicals, materials of organic origin that are supplied in therapeutic

> amounts.

>

> Potassium compound

> Lugol's solution

> Vitamin B-12

> Thyroid hormone

> Injectable Crude Liver Extract

> Pancreatic Enzymes

> Enemas of coffee and/or chamomile

>

> A very important part of the Gerson Therapy is frequent detoxification of

> the tissues and blood. This is accomplished through a variety of means, first

> and foremost through the use of coffee enemas.

> The scientific basis for the use of coffee enemas is well documented, and

> can be obtained from the Gerson Institute. Patients report that the enemas

> decrease pain and hasten healing. Biologically, enzyme systems of the gut wall

> and liver are stimulated, and bile flow is increased. This has been shown to

> enhance the body's ability to eliminate toxic residues from environmental,

> chemotherapeutic, and other sources.

> Tumor and other diseased tissue is also more rapidly eliminated as it is

> broken down.

> Other means of detoxification include castor oil, used as an additional

> stimulant of bile flow and as another way to enhance the liver's ability to

> filter blood. In addition, digestive enzymes serve to enhance absorption of

> nutrients as well as assist in the elimination of damaged tissue.

> Patients must have a complete understanding of the Gerson Therapy so that

> they may effectively continue the regimen at home after leaving the treatment

> center. The following are examples of educational opportunities at a typical

> licensed Gerson facility:

>

> Gerson-trained physicians and/or educators present lectures and instruction

> on healing reactions and medication uses.

> Charlotte Gerson and/or other senior Gerson Institute staff members lecture

> on the theory and practice of the Gerson Therapy, scientific rationales and

> relevant research.

> Instruction and demonstration of two-piece, press-type juicers, such as the

> Norwalk Juicer.

> Videotapes of lectures by Charlotte Gerson, other Gerson Institute staff,

> and Gerson-trained physicians are available for viewing at any time.

> Regular, individualized consultation with your Gerson physician on the

> specifics of your condition and any necessary modifications to the treatment.

> During this time, any specific questions you have may be addressed.

>

> Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> Molly, have you ever read the information provided by the man who

> used coffee enemas to cure cancer?

>

> Dr. Max Gerson is his name. He was an Austrian Jew that survived the

> Holocaust, while the rest of his family perished. HE was a genius, and he

> suffered greatly to make sure the rest of the world had the necessary

> information to heal from cancer. He lived a sacrificial life so that others

> would live with health. See www.gerson.org.

>

> Don't be so quick to judge something that you have not researched fully.

> Coffee enemas are not harmful. If you read information from those who have a

> vested interest in suppressing cancer cures, you are going to get less than

> truthful " facts " or opinions. I don't have to rehash that subject, right? I

> mean, follow the money, follow the money, follow the money.....

>

> An MD here in Las Vegas that my husband and I went to see told us that he

> has done them for 20 years--EVERY DAY. When I asked him about possible health

> concerns from doing them too often, that is when he emailed me about his

> consistent use of them. He has not been harmed, and he recommends them to

> everyone.

>

> My husband and I have done coffee enemas for the past 5 years or so. No

> harm here!

> Patty

>

> Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote:

> I didn't mean to sound so harsh, Kendra. I'm sorry.

>

> It concerns me that so many women who have little money spend it on things of

> dubious

> benefit.

>

> And yes, there are many things in traditional medicine that are worthless.

> There is a lot of

> money in pharmaceuticals, for example, that are often dangerous. But there is

> also a lot

> of money in 'natural' preparations that may be equally dangerous.

>

> For example, I have read some alarming reports that coffee enemas are harmful.

> I don't

> know if they are or are not, but I know I will never use one.

>

>>>>>

>>>>> I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I don't

>>>>> have

>>>>> fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has recognized FMS and CFS as legitimate

>>>>> disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS besides

>>>>> symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of " tender points " on the body. If a

>>>>> person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively diagnosed

>>>>> with

>>>>> FMS. I have those 18 points and I never knew what they were, thought they

>>>>> were

>>>>> invisible bruises!

>>>>>

>>>>> There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a disturbance in

>>>>> phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in a

>>>>> system-wide

>>>>> cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the body. His

>>>>> protocol, guaifenesin, purports to regulate phosphate excretion and thus

>>>>> allow

>>>>> cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying it, but

>>>>> still

>>>>> haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with it (small

>>>>> meals,

>>>>> lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies).

>>>>>

>>>>> Anyone else tried this?

>>>>>

>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>

>>>>> Bindi

>>>>> Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness

>>>>>

>>>>> Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any form of

>>>>> definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient has

>>>>> certain

>>>>> symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As such,

>>>>> there

>>>>> are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors believe that

>>>>> those

>>>>> of us who have fibro will always have it because they don't understand

>>>>> the

>>>>> reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason I had

>>>>> fibro

>>>>> is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. Cleaning up

>>>>> my

>>>>> liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took

>>>>> changing

>>>>> my

>>>>> diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was totally

>>>>> symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily.

>>>>>

>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>

>>>>>> I was just curious if having fibromyalgia-like symptoms during and after

>>>>>> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women who are

>>>>>> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are told that they will " always have it " and

>>>>>> that

>>>>>> it " can't be cured, only managed. " This is what I have been told.

>>>>>> I just don't know whether I should just accept it and stop " waiting " to

>>>>>> get

>>>>>> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and other

>>>>>> symptoms

>>>>>> are

>>>>>> temporary.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I'm ten months out, and though I feel far better now than with implants,

>>>>>> I

>>>>>> still have a lot of muscle and joint pain and I'm exhausted all the time.

>>>>>> I

>>>>>> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, or I

>>>>>> suffer

>>>>>> for

>>>>>> days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical post-implant recovery symptoms?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

> ----------------------------------------------------------

>>> --

>>>>> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

>>>>> rates.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

September 14, 2006

I think I eat less and less meat as I get older,

and when I buy meat, it is free range, without

chemicals, hormones and additives.

Deep ocean fish is good, free range chicken and

turkey. I think we just don't need as much as we

often have thought we did. I personally tried to

be vegetarian, but it made me weak. I cannot use

soy. And beans have never agreed with me.

Lynda

At 06:38 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote:

>Patty,

>

>Have you ever treated with a Gerson doc? It all makes sense!

>

>I do have a question about consuming so much juice -- doesn't it cause the

>blood sugar to spike because of all of the sugar in the juice?

>

>Do you eat a mostly vegetarian diet? I have been thinking about eating less

>meats. I have been reading up on dietary requirements for vegetarians. I

>couldn't switch totally over but I think it would be healthier to eat meat

>as a condiment, rather than a main dish. As it is, we only have read meat

>once every few weeks but I do serve chicken or fish most every night.

>

>Kenda

>

> >

>

<http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp>http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/def\

ault.asp

> >

> > Throughout our lives our bodies are being filled with a variety of disease

> > and cancer causing pollutants. These toxins reach us through the air we

> > breathe, the food we eat, the medicines we take and the water we drink. As

> > more of these poisons are used every day and

> cancer rates continue to climb,

> > being able to turn to a proven, natural,

> detoxifying treatment like the Gerson

> > Therapy is not only reassuring, but necessary.

> > The Gerson Therapy is a powerful, natural treatment that boosts your body's

> > own immune system to heal cancer, arthritis, heart disease, allergies, and

> > many other degenerative diseases. One aspect

> of the Gerson Therapy that sets

> > it apart from most other treatment methods is

> its all-encompassing nature. An

> > abundance of nutrients from thirteen fresh,

> organic juices are consumed every

> > day, providing your body with a superdose of

> enzymes, minerals and nutrients.

> > These substances then break down diseased

> tissue in the body, while enemas aid

> > in eliminating the lifelong buildup of toxins from the liver.

> > With its whole-body approach to healing, the Gerson Therapy naturally

> > reactivates your body's magnificent ability

> to heal itself - with no damaging

> > side-effects. Over 200 articles in respected

> medical literature, and thousands

> > of people cured of their " incurable " diseases document the Gerson Therapy's

> > effectiveness. The Gerson Therapy is one of the few treatments to have a 60

> > year history of success.

> > Although its philosophy of cleansing and reactivating the body is simple,

> > the Gerson Therapy is a complex method of treatment requiring significant

> > attention to detail. While many patients have

> made full recoveries practicing

> > the Gerson Therapy on their own, for best results we encourage starting

> > treatment at a Gerson Institute licensed treatment center.

> > Please Note: The Gerson Institute does not own, operate, or control any

> > treatment facility. We maintain a licensing program with clinics to ensure

> > that patients are receiving true, 100% Gerson care. Be sure your clinic is

> > Gerson Institute Licensed to provide the Gerson Therapy. Phone the Gerson

> > Institute to discuss how the Gerson Therapy

> can help you. We will be happy to

> > answer your questions. Within the U.S. call 1-888-4GERSON, outside the U.S.

> > please phone 619-685-5353.

> > The Gerson Therapy is a state of the art, contemporary, alternative and

> > natural treatment which utilizes the body's own healing mechanism in the

> > treatment and cure of chronic debilitating

> illness. When it was introduced to

> > the world by Max Gerson, M.D., the dietary therapy was so far ahead of its

> > time that there were almost no rationales available in the scientific

> > literature to explain how it could produce cures in chronic as well as

> > infectious diseases. But, because it did cure many cases of advanced

> > tuberculosis, heart disease, cancer and

> numerous lesser conditions, the Gerson

> > Therapy was established as a major

> contribution to the medical field, through

> > the publication of articles in peer reviewed

> medical literature. Gerson first

> > published on the topic of cancer in 1945, almost forty years before the

> > adoption of the current official U.S. National Cancer Institute program on

> > diet, nutrition, and cancer.

> > Max Gerson treated many hundreds of patients and continued to develop and

> > refine his therapy up until his death in 1959, at the age of 78. His most

> > famous patient was Dr. Albert Schweitzer, whom Gerson cured of advanced

> > diabetes when Schweitzer was 75. Schweitzer

> returned to his African hospital,

> > won the Nobel prize, and worked past age 90. Schweitzer wrote " I see in Dr.

> > Gerson one of the most eminent geniuses in the history of medicine. "

> > Most recently, Dr. Gerson was recognized as a pioneer in his field when he

> > was inducted into the Orthomolecular Medicine

> Hall of Fame in Ottawa, Canada

> > on May 14, 2005. He joined seven other giants

> of medicine whose seminal work

> > has been influential in the medical and

> scientific worlds, and are considered

> > pioneers in their respective fields.

> > It is rare to find cancer, arthritis, or other degenerative diseases in

> > cultures considered " primitive " by Western civilization. Is it because of

> > diet? The fact that degenerative diseases

> appear in these cultures only when

> > modern packaged foods and additives are introduced would certainly support

> > that idea. Max Gerson said " Stay close to nature and its eternal laws will

> > protect you. " He considered that degenerative diseases were brought on by

> > toxic, degraded food, water and air.

> > The Gerson Therapy seeks to regenerate the body to health, supporting each

> > important metabolic requirement by flooding the body with nutrients from

> > almost 20 pounds of organically grown fruits and vegetables daily. Most is

> > used to make fresh raw juice, one glass every

> hour, 13 times per day. Raw and

> > cooked solid foods are generously consumed.

> Oxygenation is usually more than

> > doubled, as oxygen deficiency in the blood contributes to many degenerative

> > diseases. The metabolism is also stimulated

> through the addition of thyroid,

> > potassium and other supplements, and by avoiding heavy animal fats, excess

> > protein, sodium and other toxins.

> > Degenerative diseases render the body increasingly unable to excrete waste

> > materials adequately, commonly resulting in liver and kidney failure. To

> > prevent this, the Gerson Therapy uses intensive detoxification to eliminate

> > wastes, regenerate the liver, reactivate the immune system and restore the

> > body's essential defenses - enzyme, mineral and hormone systems. With

> > generous, high-quality nutrition, increased oxygen availability,

> > detoxification, and improved metabolism, the cells - and the body - can

> > regenerate, become healthy and prevent future illness.

> > No treatment works for everyone, every time. Anyone who tells you otherwise

> > is not giving you the facts. We know that

> when you have been diagnosed with a

> > life-threatening ailment, choosing the best

> strategy for fighting your illness

> > can be a bewildering task. Everyone claims to have either " the best

> > treatment " , " the fastest cure " , or " the only therapy that works. " In most

> > cases your trusted family physician only has knowledge of conventional

> > treatments, and is either unaware of, or even hostile toward alternative

> > options. No matter how many opinions you

> receive on how to treat your disease,

> > you are going to make the final decision on what to do, and you must be

> > comfortable with your decision. Choose a

> treatment that makes the most sense

> > to you.

> > Most therapies, conventional or alternative treat only the individual

> > symptoms while ignoring what is ultimately

> causing the disease. The reason the

> > Gerson Therapy is effective with so many different ailments is because it

> > restores the body's incredible ability to heal itself. Rather than treating

> > only the symptoms of a particular disease,

> the Gerson Therapy treats the cause

> > of the disease itself. Although we feel the Gerson Therapy is the most

> > comprehensive treatment for disease, we don't

> claim it will cure everything or

> > everyone.

> > Although the Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical

> > facilities, we do refer patients to clinics which are fully licensed by the

> > Gerson Institute to provide the Gerson

> Therapy. Whether you plan to follow the

> > treatment on your own at home, would like to

> schedule admittance to a clinic,

> > or simply have questions about the Therapy,

> we encourage you to contact one of

> > our client service representatives at the Gerson Institute.

> >

> > Caution: Do not start the Gerson Therapy

> without the supervision of a Gerson

> > practitioner if any of the following conditions apply:

> >

> > Chemotherapy

> > Diabetes

> > Brain metastases

> > Severe kidney damage

> > Foreign bodies such as pacemakers, breast implants, steel plates or screws.

> > Patients must be able to eat, drink and eliminate normally.

> > The Gerson Therapy cannot be administered to organ transplant recipients.

> >

> > Juicing is an essential component of the Gerson Therapy. To ensure reliable

> > results, the Gerson patient will need to

> purchase an appropriate juicer. Dr.

> > Gerson's research indicates that cancer

> patients must have a two- stage juicer

> > with a separate grinder and hydraulic press.

> One-step juicers generally do not

> > produce the same quality of enzyme, mineral

> or micronutrient content, and some

> > patients have failed to experience results

> simply by using the wrong juicer.

> > We do not recommend the use of any centrifugal-type juicers for Gerson

> > patients. Other non-centrifugal juicers may

> be used for health maintenance or

> > non-cancer diagnoses.

> > If you are intersted in learning more about the press-type juicers, please

> > contact the Norwalk Juicer Representatives,

> Boger or Gisela Summer at

> > 1-800-405-8423/760-436-9684 outside the US.

> >

> > The Gerson diet is naturally high in vitamins, minerals, enzymes,

> > micro-nutrients, extremely low in sodium and fats, and rich in fluids.

> > The following is a typical daily diet for a Gerson patient on the full

> > therapy regimen:

> >

> > Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared

> > hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables.

> > Three full vegetarian meals, freshly prepared from organically grown

> > fruits, vegetables and whole grains. A

> typical meal will include salad, cooked

> > vegetables, baked potatoes, vegetable soup and juice.

> > Fresh fruit and fresh fruit dessert available at all hours for snacking, in

> > addition to the regular diet.

> >

> > All medications used in connection with the Gerson Therapy are classed as

> > biologicals, materials of organic origin that are supplied in therapeutic

> > amounts.

> >

> > Potassium compound

> > Lugol's solution

> > Vitamin B-12

> > Thyroid hormone

> > Injectable Crude Liver Extract

> > Pancreatic Enzymes

> > Enemas of coffee and/or chamomile

> >

> > A very important part of the Gerson Therapy is frequent detoxification of

> > the tissues and blood. This is accomplished

> through a variety of means, first

> > and foremost through the use of coffee enemas.

> > The scientific basis for the use of coffee enemas is well documented, and

> > can be obtained from the Gerson Institute. Patients report that the enemas

> > decrease pain and hasten healing.

> Biologically, enzyme systems of the gut wall

> > and liver are stimulated, and bile flow is

> increased. This has been shown to

> > enhance the body's ability to eliminate toxic residues from environmental,

> > chemotherapeutic, and other sources.

> > Tumor and other diseased tissue is also more rapidly eliminated as it is

> > broken down.

> > Other means of detoxification include castor oil, used as an additional

> > stimulant of bile flow and as another way to enhance the liver's ability to

> > filter blood. In addition, digestive enzymes serve to enhance absorption of

> > nutrients as well as assist in the elimination of damaged tissue.

> > Patients must have a complete understanding of the Gerson Therapy so that

> > they may effectively continue the regimen at

> home after leaving the treatment

> > center. The following are examples of

> educational opportunities at a typical

> > licensed Gerson facility:

> >

> > Gerson-trained physicians and/or educators present lectures and instruction

> > on healing reactions and medication uses.

> > Charlotte Gerson and/or other senior Gerson Institute staff members lecture

> > on the theory and practice of the Gerson Therapy, scientific rationales and

> > relevant research.

> > Instruction and demonstration of two-piece, press-type juicers, such as the

> > Norwalk Juicer.

> > Videotapes of lectures by Charlotte Gerson, other Gerson Institute staff,

> > and Gerson-trained physicians are available for viewing at any time.

> > Regular, individualized consultation with your Gerson physician on the

> > specifics of your condition and any necessary

> modifications to the treatment.

> > During this time, any specific questions you have may be addressed.

> >

> > Tricia Trish

> <<mailto:glory2glory1401%40>glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> > Molly, have you ever read the information provided by the man who

> > used coffee enemas to cure cancer?

> >

> > Dr. Max Gerson is his name. He was an Austrian Jew that survived the

> > Holocaust, while the rest of his family perished. HE was a genius, and he

> > suffered greatly to make sure the rest of the world had the necessary

> > information to heal from cancer. He lived a sacrificial life so that others

> > would live with health. See www.gerson.org.

> >

> > Don't be so quick to judge something that you have not researched fully.

> > Coffee enemas are not harmful. If you read

> information from those who have a

> > vested interest in suppressing cancer cures, you are going to get less than

> > truthful " facts " or opinions. I don't have to rehash that subject, right? I

> > mean, follow the money, follow the money, follow the money.....

> >

> > An MD here in Las Vegas that my husband and I went to see told us that he

> > has done them for 20 years--EVERY DAY. When I

> asked him about possible health

> > concerns from doing them too often, that is when he emailed me about his

> > consistent use of them. He has not been harmed, and he recommends them to

> > everyone.

> >

> > My husband and I have done coffee enemas for the past 5 years or so. No

> > harm here!

> > Patty

> >

> > Molly Bloom

> <<mailto:mollyb54%40bellsouth.net>mollyb54@...> wrote:

> > I didn't mean to sound so harsh, Kendra. I'm sorry.

> >

> > It concerns me that so many women who have

> little money spend it on things of

> > dubious

> > benefit.

> >

> > And yes, there are many things in traditional medicine that are worthless.

> > There is a lot of

> > money in pharmaceuticals, for example, that

> are often dangerous. But there is

> > also a lot

> > of money in 'natural' preparations that may be equally dangerous.

> >

> > For example, I have read some alarming

> reports that coffee enemas are harmful.

> > I don't

> > know if they are or are not, but I know I will never use one.

> >

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I don't

> >>>>> have

> >>>>> fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has

> recognized FMS and CFS as legitimate

> >>>>> disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS besides

> >>>>> symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of

> " tender points " on the body. If a

> >>>>> person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively diagnosed

> >>>>> with

> >>>>> FMS. I have those 18 points and I never

> knew what they were, thought they

> >>>>> were

> >>>>> invisible bruises!

> >>>>>

> >>>>> There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a disturbance in

> >>>>> phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in a

> >>>>> system-wide

> >>>>> cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the body. His

> >>>>> protocol, guaifenesin, purports to

> regulate phosphate excretion and thus

> >>>>> allow

> >>>>> cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying it, but

> >>>>> still

> >>>>> haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with it (small

> >>>>> meals,

> >>>>> lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies).

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Anyone else tried this?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Bindi

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Bindi

> >>>>> Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any form of

> >>>>> definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient has

> >>>>> certain

> >>>>> symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As such,

> >>>>> there

> >>>>> are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors believe that

> >>>>> those

> >>>>> of us who have fibro will always have it because they don't understand

> >>>>> the

> >>>>> reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason I had

> >>>>> fibro

> >>>>> is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. Cleaning up

> >>>>> my

> >>>>> liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took

> >>>>> changing

> >>>>> my

> >>>>> diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was totally

> >>>>> symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Kenda

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> I was just curious if having

> fibromyalgia-like symptoms during and after

> >>>>>> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women who are

> >>>>>> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are told that

> they will " always have it " and

> >>>>>> that

> >>>>>> it " can't be cured, only managed. " This is what I have been told.

> >>>>>> I just don't know whether I should just

> accept it and stop " waiting " to

> >>>>>> get

> >>>>>> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and other

> >>>>>> symptoms

> >>>>>> are

> >>>>>> temporary.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I'm ten months out, and though I feel

> far better now than with implants,

> >>>>>> I

> >>>>>> still have a lot of muscle and joint

> pain and I'm exhausted all the time.

> >>>>>> I

> >>>>>> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, or I

> >>>>>> suffer

> >>>>>> for

> >>>>>> days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical

> post-implant recovery symptoms?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Bindi

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>

> > ----------------------------------------------------------

> >>> --

> >>>>> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

> >>>>> rates.

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

September 14, 2006

I buy organic and free range as well -- always. I buy my fish from Vital

Choice because it is guaranteed to be mercury free and is caught in deep

clean waters. I think being vegetarian would make me weak as well, but I'd

like to concentrate on eating more vegetables. I can't eat soy either, it

gives me terrible gas!! What blood type are you, Lynda? According to

D'Adamo, we should eat right for our blood types. I'm an AB and shouldn't

eat red meat.

Kenda

> I think I eat less and less meat as I get older,

> and when I buy meat, it is free range, without

> chemicals, hormones and additives.

>

> Deep ocean fish is good, free range chicken and

> turkey. I think we just don't need as much as we

> often have thought we did. I personally tried to

> be vegetarian, but it made me weak. I cannot use

> soy. And beans have never agreed with me.

>

> Lynda

>

> At 06:38 AM 9/14/2006, you wrote:

>

>> Patty,

>>

>> Have you ever treated with a Gerson doc? It all makes sense!

>>

>> I do have a question about consuming so much juice -- doesn't it cause the

>> blood sugar to spike because of all of the sugar in the juice?

>>

>> Do you eat a mostly vegetarian diet? I have been thinking about eating less

>> meats. I have been reading up on dietary requirements for vegetarians. I

>> couldn't switch totally over but I think it would be healthier to eat meat

>> as a condiment, rather than a main dish. As it is, we only have read meat

>> once every few weeks but I do serve chicken or fish most every night.

>>

>> Kenda

>>

>>>

>> <http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp>http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/

>> default.asp

>>>

>>> Throughout our lives our bodies are being filled with a variety of disease

>>> and cancer causing pollutants. These toxins reach us through the air we

>>> breathe, the food we eat, the medicines we take and the water we drink. As

>>> more of these poisons are used every day and

>> cancer rates continue to climb,

>>> being able to turn to a proven, natural,

>> detoxifying treatment like the Gerson

>>> Therapy is not only reassuring, but necessary.

>>> The Gerson Therapy is a powerful, natural treatment that boosts your body's

>>> own immune system to heal cancer, arthritis, heart disease, allergies, and

>>> many other degenerative diseases. One aspect

>> of the Gerson Therapy that sets

>>> it apart from most other treatment methods is

>> its all-encompassing nature. An

>>> abundance of nutrients from thirteen fresh,

>> organic juices are consumed every

>>> day, providing your body with a superdose of

>> enzymes, minerals and nutrients.

>>> These substances then break down diseased

>> tissue in the body, while enemas aid

>>> in eliminating the lifelong buildup of toxins from the liver.

>>> With its whole-body approach to healing, the Gerson Therapy naturally

>>> reactivates your body's magnificent ability

>> to heal itself - with no damaging

>>> side-effects. Over 200 articles in respected

>> medical literature, and thousands

>>> of people cured of their " incurable " diseases document the Gerson Therapy's

>>> effectiveness. The Gerson Therapy is one of the few treatments to have a 60

>>> year history of success.

>>> Although its philosophy of cleansing and reactivating the body is simple,

>>> the Gerson Therapy is a complex method of treatment requiring significant

>>> attention to detail. While many patients have

>> made full recoveries practicing

>>> the Gerson Therapy on their own, for best results we encourage starting

>>> treatment at a Gerson Institute licensed treatment center.

>>> Please Note: The Gerson Institute does not own, operate, or control any

>>> treatment facility. We maintain a licensing program with clinics to ensure

>>> that patients are receiving true, 100% Gerson care. Be sure your clinic is

>>> Gerson Institute Licensed to provide the Gerson Therapy. Phone the Gerson

>>> Institute to discuss how the Gerson Therapy

>> can help you. We will be happy to

>>> answer your questions. Within the U.S. call 1-888-4GERSON, outside the U.S.

>>> please phone 619-685-5353.

>>> The Gerson Therapy is a state of the art, contemporary, alternative and

>>> natural treatment which utilizes the body's own healing mechanism in the

>>> treatment and cure of chronic debilitating

>> illness. When it was introduced to

>>> the world by Max Gerson, M.D., the dietary therapy was so far ahead of its

>>> time that there were almost no rationales available in the scientific

>>> literature to explain how it could produce cures in chronic as well as

>>> infectious diseases. But, because it did cure many cases of advanced

>>> tuberculosis, heart disease, cancer and

>> numerous lesser conditions, the Gerson

>>> Therapy was established as a major

>> contribution to the medical field, through

>>> the publication of articles in peer reviewed

>> medical literature. Gerson first

>>> published on the topic of cancer in 1945, almost forty years before the

>>> adoption of the current official U.S. National Cancer Institute program on

>>> diet, nutrition, and cancer.

>>> Max Gerson treated many hundreds of patients and continued to develop and

>>> refine his therapy up until his death in 1959, at the age of 78. His most

>>> famous patient was Dr. Albert Schweitzer, whom Gerson cured of advanced

>>> diabetes when Schweitzer was 75. Schweitzer

>> returned to his African hospital,

>>> won the Nobel prize, and worked past age 90. Schweitzer wrote " I see in Dr.

>>> Gerson one of the most eminent geniuses in the history of medicine. "

>>> Most recently, Dr. Gerson was recognized as a pioneer in his field when he

>>> was inducted into the Orthomolecular Medicine

>> Hall of Fame in Ottawa, Canada

>>> on May 14, 2005. He joined seven other giants

>> of medicine whose seminal work

>>> has been influential in the medical and

>> scientific worlds, and are considered

>>> pioneers in their respective fields.

>>> It is rare to find cancer, arthritis, or other degenerative diseases in

>>> cultures considered " primitive " by Western civilization. Is it because of

>>> diet? The fact that degenerative diseases

>> appear in these cultures only when

>>> modern packaged foods and additives are introduced would certainly support

>>> that idea. Max Gerson said " Stay close to nature and its eternal laws will

>>> protect you. " He considered that degenerative diseases were brought on by

>>> toxic, degraded food, water and air.

>>> The Gerson Therapy seeks to regenerate the body to health, supporting each

>>> important metabolic requirement by flooding the body with nutrients from

>>> almost 20 pounds of organically grown fruits and vegetables daily. Most is

>>> used to make fresh raw juice, one glass every

>> hour, 13 times per day. Raw and

>>> cooked solid foods are generously consumed.

>> Oxygenation is usually more than

>>> doubled, as oxygen deficiency in the blood contributes to many degenerative

>>> diseases. The metabolism is also stimulated

>> through the addition of thyroid,

>>> potassium and other supplements, and by avoiding heavy animal fats, excess

>>> protein, sodium and other toxins.

>>> Degenerative diseases render the body increasingly unable to excrete waste

>>> materials adequately, commonly resulting in liver and kidney failure. To

>>> prevent this, the Gerson Therapy uses intensive detoxification to eliminate

>>> wastes, regenerate the liver, reactivate the immune system and restore the

>>> body's essential defenses - enzyme, mineral and hormone systems. With

>>> generous, high-quality nutrition, increased oxygen availability,

>>> detoxification, and improved metabolism, the cells - and the body - can

>>> regenerate, become healthy and prevent future illness.

>>> No treatment works for everyone, every time. Anyone who tells you otherwise

>>> is not giving you the facts. We know that

>> when you have been diagnosed with a

>>> life-threatening ailment, choosing the best

>> strategy for fighting your illness

>>> can be a bewildering task. Everyone claims to have either " the best

>>> treatment " , " the fastest cure " , or " the only therapy that works. " In most

>>> cases your trusted family physician only has knowledge of conventional

>>> treatments, and is either unaware of, or even hostile toward alternative

>>> options. No matter how many opinions you

>> receive on how to treat your disease,

>>> you are going to make the final decision on what to do, and you must be

>>> comfortable with your decision. Choose a

>> treatment that makes the most sense

>>> to you.

>>> Most therapies, conventional or alternative treat only the individual

>>> symptoms while ignoring what is ultimately

>> causing the disease. The reason the

>>> Gerson Therapy is effective with so many different ailments is because it

>>> restores the body's incredible ability to heal itself. Rather than treating

>>> only the symptoms of a particular disease,

>> the Gerson Therapy treats the cause

>>> of the disease itself. Although we feel the Gerson Therapy is the most

>>> comprehensive treatment for disease, we don't

>> claim it will cure everything or

>>> everyone.

>>> Although the Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical

>>> facilities, we do refer patients to clinics which are fully licensed by the

>>> Gerson Institute to provide the Gerson

>> Therapy. Whether you plan to follow the

>>> treatment on your own at home, would like to

>> schedule admittance to a clinic,

>>> or simply have questions about the Therapy,

>> we encourage you to contact one of

>>> our client service representatives at the Gerson Institute.

>>>

>>> Caution: Do not start the Gerson Therapy

>> without the supervision of a Gerson

>>> practitioner if any of the following conditions apply:

>>>

>>> Chemotherapy

>>> Diabetes

>>> Brain metastases

>>> Severe kidney damage

>>> Foreign bodies such as pacemakers, breast implants, steel plates or screws.

>>> Patients must be able to eat, drink and eliminate normally.

>>> The Gerson Therapy cannot be administered to organ transplant recipients.

>>>

>>> Juicing is an essential component of the Gerson Therapy. To ensure reliable

>>> results, the Gerson patient will need to

>> purchase an appropriate juicer. Dr.

>>> Gerson's research indicates that cancer

>> patients must have a two- stage juicer

>>> with a separate grinder and hydraulic press.

>> One-step juicers generally do not

>>> produce the same quality of enzyme, mineral

>> or micronutrient content, and some

>>> patients have failed to experience results

>> simply by using the wrong juicer.

>>> We do not recommend the use of any centrifugal-type juicers for Gerson

>>> patients. Other non-centrifugal juicers may

>> be used for health maintenance or

>>> non-cancer diagnoses.

>>> If you are intersted in learning more about the press-type juicers, please

>>> contact the Norwalk Juicer Representatives,

>> Boger or Gisela Summer at

>>> 1-800-405-8423/760-436-9684 outside the US.

>>>

>>> The Gerson diet is naturally high in vitamins, minerals, enzymes,

>>> micro-nutrients, extremely low in sodium and fats, and rich in fluids.

>>> The following is a typical daily diet for a Gerson patient on the full

>>> therapy regimen:

>>>

>>> Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared

>>> hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables.

>>> Three full vegetarian meals, freshly prepared from organically grown

>>> fruits, vegetables and whole grains. A

>> typical meal will include salad, cooked

>>> vegetables, baked potatoes, vegetable soup and juice.

>>> Fresh fruit and fresh fruit dessert available at all hours for snacking, in

>>> addition to the regular diet.

>>>

>>> All medications used in connection with the Gerson Therapy are classed as

>>> biologicals, materials of organic origin that are supplied in therapeutic

>>> amounts.

>>>

>>> Potassium compound

>>> Lugol's solution

>>> Vitamin B-12

>>> Thyroid hormone

>>> Injectable Crude Liver Extract

>>> Pancreatic Enzymes

>>> Enemas of coffee and/or chamomile

>>>

>>> A very important part of the Gerson Therapy is frequent detoxification of

>>> the tissues and blood. This is accomplished

>> through a variety of means, first

>>> and foremost through the use of coffee enemas.

>>> The scientific basis for the use of coffee enemas is well documented, and

>>> can be obtained from the Gerson Institute. Patients report that the enemas

>>> decrease pain and hasten healing.

>> Biologically, enzyme systems of the gut wall

>>> and liver are stimulated, and bile flow is

>> increased. This has been shown to

>>> enhance the body's ability to eliminate toxic residues from environmental,

>>> chemotherapeutic, and other sources.

>>> Tumor and other diseased tissue is also more rapidly eliminated as it is

>>> broken down.

>>> Other means of detoxification include castor oil, used as an additional

>>> stimulant of bile flow and as another way to enhance the liver's ability to

>>> filter blood. In addition, digestive enzymes serve to enhance absorption of

>>> nutrients as well as assist in the elimination of damaged tissue.

>>> Patients must have a complete understanding of the Gerson Therapy so that

>>> they may effectively continue the regimen at

>> home after leaving the treatment

>>> center. The following are examples of

>> educational opportunities at a typical

>>> licensed Gerson facility:

>>>

>>> Gerson-trained physicians and/or educators present lectures and instruction

>>> on healing reactions and medication uses.

>>> Charlotte Gerson and/or other senior Gerson Institute staff members lecture

>>> on the theory and practice of the Gerson Therapy, scientific rationales and

>>> relevant research.

>>> Instruction and demonstration of two-piece, press-type juicers, such as the

>>> Norwalk Juicer.

>>> Videotapes of lectures by Charlotte Gerson, other Gerson Institute staff,

>>> and Gerson-trained physicians are available for viewing at any time.

>>> Regular, individualized consultation with your Gerson physician on the

>>> specifics of your condition and any necessary

>> modifications to the treatment.

>>> During this time, any specific questions you have may be addressed.

>>>

>>> Tricia Trish

>> <<mailto:glory2glory1401%40>glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>>> Molly, have you ever read the information provided by the man who

>>> used coffee enemas to cure cancer?

>>>

>>> Dr. Max Gerson is his name. He was an Austrian Jew that survived the

>>> Holocaust, while the rest of his family perished. HE was a genius, and he

>>> suffered greatly to make sure the rest of the world had the necessary

>>> information to heal from cancer. He lived a sacrificial life so that others

>>> would live with health. See www.gerson.org.

>>>

>>> Don't be so quick to judge something that you have not researched fully.

>>> Coffee enemas are not harmful. If you read

>> information from those who have a

>>> vested interest in suppressing cancer cures, you are going to get less than

>>> truthful " facts " or opinions. I don't have to rehash that subject, right? I

>>> mean, follow the money, follow the money, follow the money.....

>>>

>>> An MD here in Las Vegas that my husband and I went to see told us that he

>>> has done them for 20 years--EVERY DAY. When I

>> asked him about possible health

>>> concerns from doing them too often, that is when he emailed me about his

>>> consistent use of them. He has not been harmed, and he recommends them to

>>> everyone.

>>>

>>> My husband and I have done coffee enemas for the past 5 years or so. No

>>> harm here!

>>> Patty

>>>

>>> Molly Bloom

>> <<mailto:mollyb54%40bellsouth.net>mollyb54@...> wrote:

>>> I didn't mean to sound so harsh, Kendra. I'm sorry.

>>>

>>> It concerns me that so many women who have

>> little money spend it on things of

>>> dubious

>>> benefit.

>>>

>>> And yes, there are many things in traditional medicine that are worthless.

>>> There is a lot of

>>> money in pharmaceuticals, for example, that

>> are often dangerous. But there is

>>> also a lot

>>> of money in 'natural' preparations that may be equally dangerous.

>>>

>>> For example, I have read some alarming

>> reports that coffee enemas are harmful.

>>> I don't

>>> know if they are or are not, but I know I will never use one.

>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I don't

>>>>>>> have

>>>>>>> fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has

>> recognized FMS and CFS as legitimate

>>>>>>> disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS besides

>>>>>>> symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of

>> " tender points " on the body. If a

>>>>>>> person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively diagnosed

>>>>>>> with

>>>>>>> FMS. I have those 18 points and I never

>> knew what they were, thought they

>>>>>>> were

>>>>>>> invisible bruises!

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a disturbance in

>>>>>>> phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in a

>>>>>>> system-wide

>>>>>>> cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the body. His

>>>>>>> protocol, guaifenesin, purports to

>> regulate phosphate excretion and thus

>>>>>>> allow

>>>>>>> cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying it, but

>>>>>>> still

>>>>>>> haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with it (small

>>>>>>> meals,

>>>>>>> lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Anyone else tried this?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>>> Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any form of

>>>>>>> definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient has

>>>>>>> certain

>>>>>>> symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As such,

>>>>>>> there

>>>>>>> are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors believe that

>>>>>>> those

>>>>>>> of us who have fibro will always have it because they don't understand

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason I had

>>>>>>> fibro

>>>>>>> is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. Cleaning up

>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>> liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took

>>>>>>> changing

>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>> diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was totally

>>>>>>> symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I was just curious if having

>> fibromyalgia-like symptoms during and after

>>>>>>>> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women who are

>>>>>>>> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are told that

>> they will " always have it " and

>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>> it " can't be cured, only managed. " This is what I have been told.

>>>>>>>> I just don't know whether I should just

>> accept it and stop " waiting " to

>>>>>>>> get

>>>>>>>> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and other

>>>>>>>> symptoms

>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>> temporary.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'm ten months out, and though I feel

>> far better now than with implants,

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> still have a lot of muscle and joint

>> pain and I'm exhausted all the time.

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, or I

>>>>>>>> suffer

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>> days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical

>> post-implant recovery symptoms?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>> ----------------------------------------------------------

>>>>> --

>>>>>>> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

>>>>>>> rates.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>> __________________________________________________

>>>

September 14, 2006

Hi Kenda, I have not been to a clinic that administers the Gerson therapy, but I have talked to Gerson-trained professionals on the phone, read all of Dr Gerson's books (every single one of them or those about Gerson) and talked to several patients who had done the Gerson therapy in clinics. One woman was a breast cancer survivor who did the Gerson therapy and then got a silicone gel implant! Blew my socks off! She claimed that she wasn't having any trouble from the implant, but she had healed from breast cancer after doing the therapy and continuing to do it at home. I myself bought all of the supplies needed to do the Gerson therapy at home. I did the 13 juices a day, used the Lugol's solution, the potassium salts, the liver injections, the coffee enemas, made the soup, etc. It was HARD. And it brought back my brain fog big time. It was so bad that I had to quit it. I have

continued to apply the principles to my life though, and if I EVER got cancer, I would be doing the Gerson therapy in a heartbeat. I'd go to a clinic and have all of the monitoring professionally. One of the things that they told me was that there were certain conditions that required an extraordinary amount of dedication, and there were certain conditions that required extra caution. For instance, if you had chemotherapy, you could not do the Gerson therapy full blown or without supervision. It is because the therapy draws out the toxins so quickly that if you had chemotherapy, it would be like getting another dose of chemo and you would get all the side effects again. You have to be very slow and deliberate in drawing out chemotherapy toxins from the body. The other thing was that if you had MS, you would have to prepare yourself for healing for the long haul. This meant that healing was

long, slow, and difficult, with exacerbations that would be worse to get through than the current symptoms you were experiencing. And the Gerson therapy is not a quick fix. It takes several years of therapy to achieve the final healing results. But if you had cancer, I think several years of healing for decades of additional life would be worth it, right? And he had numerous documented cases of people who were terminal--I mean, comatose and on their death beds, some even brought to him on stretchers--that he revived and went on to heal and they lived decades longer. It was amazing! The juices are mostly green ones, with a few carrot/apple thrown in. It was the green juices that made my brain fog the worst. So, no, the concern about the sugar content in the juice is moot. It's the nutrients that they were after, and the enzymes that broke down the tumors. The juices release the toxicity, the

coffee enemas ensure the toxicity is removed from the body. They had a period where cancer patients were dying--they were all getting the juices and but only a few coffee enemas. What they discovered was happening was that the juices were breaking down the tumors at such a fantastic rate that they coffee enemas were not keeping up with the toxicity removal. Once they stepped up the coffee enemas, the patients stopped dying and went on to heal. It proves the validity of both the juices to break down tumors, and the coffee enema to release toxicity. I tried vegetarianism, and found that we need a little meat in our diet. My husband is a hunter, so we eat the venison that he brings home, and then supplement with fish and chicken. However, we do not eat meat every night or even every day. We have meat maybe 3-4 times a week. There are times when dinner is a salad and that's it. I agree with using meat as a condiment rather

than the main dish completely! Patty Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote: Patty,Have you ever treated with a Gerson doc? It all makes sense!I do have a question about consuming so much juice -- doesn't it cause theblood sugar to spike because of all of the sugar in the juice?Do you eat a mostly vegetarian diet? I have been thinking about eating lessmeats. I have been reading up on dietary requirements for vegetarians. Icouldn't switch totally over but I

think it would be healthier to eat meatas a condiment, rather than a main dish. As it is, we only have read meatonce every few weeks but I do serve chicken or fish most every night.Kenda> http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp> > Throughout our lives our bodies are being filled with a variety of disease> and cancer causing pollutants. These toxins reach us through the air we> breathe, the food we eat, the medicines we take and the water we drink. As> more of these poisons are used every day and cancer rates continue to climb,> being able to turn to a proven, natural, detoxifying treatment like the Gerson> Therapy is not only reassuring, but necessary.> The Gerson Therapy is a powerful, natural treatment that boosts your body's> own immune system to heal cancer, arthritis, heart disease, allergies, and>

many other degenerative diseases. One aspect of the Gerson Therapy that sets> it apart from most other treatment methods is its all-encompassing nature. An> abundance of nutrients from thirteen fresh, organic juices are consumed every> day, providing your body with a superdose of enzymes, minerals and nutrients.> These substances then break down diseased tissue in the body, while enemas aid> in eliminating the lifelong buildup of toxins from the liver.> With its whole-body approach to healing, the Gerson Therapy naturally> reactivates your body's magnificent ability to heal itself - with no damaging> side-effects. Over 200 articles in respected medical literature, and thousands> of people cured of their "incurable" diseases document the Gerson Therapy's> effectiveness. The Gerson Therapy is one of the few treatments to have a 60> year history of success.> Although its philosophy of

cleansing and reactivating the body is simple,> the Gerson Therapy is a complex method of treatment requiring significant> attention to detail. While many patients have made full recoveries practicing> the Gerson Therapy on their own, for best results we encourage starting> treatment at a Gerson Institute licensed treatment center.> Please Note: The Gerson Institute does not own, operate, or control any> treatment facility. We maintain a licensing program with clinics to ensure> that patients are receiving true, 100% Gerson care. Be sure your clinic is> Gerson Institute Licensed to provide the Gerson Therapy. Phone the Gerson> Institute to discuss how the Gerson Therapy can help you. We will be happy to> answer your questions. Within the U.S. call 1-888-4GERSON, outside the U.S.> please phone 619-685-5353.> The Gerson Therapy is a state of the art, contemporary, alternative and>

natural treatment which utilizes the body's own healing mechanism in the> treatment and cure of chronic debilitating illness. When it was introduced to> the world by Max Gerson, M.D., the dietary therapy was so far ahead of its> time that there were almost no rationales available in the scientific> literature to explain how it could produce cures in chronic as well as> infectious diseases. But, because it did cure many cases of advanced> tuberculosis, heart disease, cancer and numerous lesser conditions, the Gerson> Therapy was established as a major contribution to the medical field, through> the publication of articles in peer reviewed medical literature. Gerson first> published on the topic of cancer in 1945, almost forty years before the> adoption of the current official U.S. National Cancer Institute program on> diet, nutrition, and cancer.> Max Gerson treated many hundreds of patients

and continued to develop and> refine his therapy up until his death in 1959, at the age of 78. His most> famous patient was Dr. Albert Schweitzer, whom Gerson cured of advanced> diabetes when Schweitzer was 75. Schweitzer returned to his African hospital,> won the Nobel prize, and worked past age 90. Schweitzer wrote "I see in Dr.> Gerson one of the most eminent geniuses in the history of medicine."> Most recently, Dr. Gerson was recognized as a pioneer in his field when he> was inducted into the Orthomolecular Medicine Hall of Fame in Ottawa, Canada> on May 14, 2005. He joined seven other giants of medicine whose seminal work> has been influential in the medical and scientific worlds, and are considered> pioneers in their respective fields.> It is rare to find cancer, arthritis, or other degenerative diseases in> cultures considered "primitive" by Western civilization. Is it because

of> diet? The fact that degenerative diseases appear in these cultures only when> modern packaged foods and additives are introduced would certainly support> that idea. Max Gerson said "Stay close to nature and its eternal laws will> protect you." He considered that degenerative diseases were brought on by> toxic, degraded food, water and air.> The Gerson Therapy seeks to regenerate the body to health, supporting each> important metabolic requirement by flooding the body with nutrients from> almost 20 pounds of organically grown fruits and vegetables daily. Most is> used to make fresh raw juice, one glass every hour, 13 times per day. Raw and> cooked solid foods are generously consumed. Oxygenation is usually more than> doubled, as oxygen deficiency in the blood contributes to many degenerative> diseases. The metabolism is also stimulated through the addition of thyroid,> potassium

and other supplements, and by avoiding heavy animal fats, excess> protein, sodium and other toxins.> Degenerative diseases render the body increasingly unable to excrete waste> materials adequately, commonly resulting in liver and kidney failure. To> prevent this, the Gerson Therapy uses intensive detoxification to eliminate> wastes, regenerate the liver, reactivate the immune system and restore the> body's essential defenses - enzyme, mineral and hormone systems. With> generous, high-quality nutrition, increased oxygen availability,> detoxification, and improved metabolism, the cells - and the body - can> regenerate, become healthy and prevent future illness.> No treatment works for everyone, every time. Anyone who tells you otherwise> is not giving you the facts. We know that when you have been diagnosed with a> life-threatening ailment, choosing the best strategy for fighting your

illness> can be a bewildering task. Everyone claims to have either "the best> treatment", "the fastest cure", or "the only therapy that works." In most> cases your trusted family physician only has knowledge of conventional> treatments, and is either unaware of, or even hostile toward alternative> options. No matter how many opinions you receive on how to treat your disease,> you are going to make the final decision on what to do, and you must be> comfortable with your decision. Choose a treatment that makes the most sense> to you.> Most therapies, conventional or alternative treat only the individual> symptoms while ignoring what is ultimately causing the disease. The reason the> Gerson Therapy is effective with so many different ailments is because it> restores the body's incredible ability to heal itself. Rather than treating> only the symptoms of a particular disease, the Gerson

Therapy treats the cause> of the disease itself. Although we feel the Gerson Therapy is the most> comprehensive treatment for disease, we don't claim it will cure everything or> everyone.> Although the Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical> facilities, we do refer patients to clinics which are fully licensed by the> Gerson Institute to provide the Gerson Therapy. Whether you plan to follow the> treatment on your own at home, would like to schedule admittance to a clinic,> or simply have questions about the Therapy, we encourage you to contact one of> our client service representatives at the Gerson Institute.> > Caution: Do not start the Gerson Therapy without the supervision of a Gerson> practitioner if any of the following conditions apply:> > Chemotherapy > Diabetes > Brain metastases> Severe kidney damage> Foreign bodies such as

pacemakers, breast implants, steel plates or screws.> Patients must be able to eat, drink and eliminate normally.> The Gerson Therapy cannot be administered to organ transplant recipients.> > > Juicing is an essential component of the Gerson Therapy. To ensure reliable> results, the Gerson patient will need to purchase an appropriate juicer. Dr.> Gerson's research indicates that cancer patients must have a two- stage juicer> with a separate grinder and hydraulic press. One-step juicers generally do not> produce the same quality of enzyme, mineral or micronutrient content, and some> patients have failed to experience results simply by using the wrong juicer.> We do not recommend the use of any centrifugal-type juicers for Gerson> patients. Other non-centrifugal juicers may be used for health maintenance or> non-cancer diagnoses.> If you are intersted in learning more about

the press-type juicers, please> contact the Norwalk Juicer Representatives, Boger or Gisela Summer at> 1-800-405-8423/760-436-9684 outside the US.> > > The Gerson diet is naturally high in vitamins, minerals, enzymes,> micro-nutrients, extremely low in sodium and fats, and rich in fluids.> The following is a typical daily diet for a Gerson patient on the full> therapy regimen:> > Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared> hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables.> Three full vegetarian meals, freshly prepared from organically grown> fruits, vegetables and whole grains. A typical meal will include salad, cooked> vegetables, baked potatoes, vegetable soup and juice.> Fresh fruit and fresh fruit dessert available at all hours for snacking, in> addition to the regular diet.> > All medications used in

connection with the Gerson Therapy are classed as> biologicals, materials of organic origin that are supplied in therapeutic> amounts.> > Potassium compound> Lugol's solution> Vitamin B-12 > Thyroid hormone> Injectable Crude Liver Extract> Pancreatic Enzymes> Enemas of coffee and/or chamomile> > A very important part of the Gerson Therapy is frequent detoxification of> the tissues and blood. This is accomplished through a variety of means, first> and foremost through the use of coffee enemas.> The scientific basis for the use of coffee enemas is well documented, and> can be obtained from the Gerson Institute. Patients report that the enemas> decrease pain and hasten healing. Biologically, enzyme systems of the gut wall> and liver are stimulated, and bile flow is increased. This has been shown to> enhance the body's ability to eliminate toxic

residues from environmental,> chemotherapeutic, and other sources.> Tumor and other diseased tissue is also more rapidly eliminated as it is> broken down.> Other means of detoxification include castor oil, used as an additional> stimulant of bile flow and as another way to enhance the liver's ability to> filter blood. In addition, digestive enzymes serve to enhance absorption of> nutrients as well as assist in the elimination of damaged tissue.> Patients must have a complete understanding of the Gerson Therapy so that> they may effectively continue the regimen at home after leaving the treatment> center. The following are examples of educational opportunities at a typical> licensed Gerson facility:> > Gerson-trained physicians and/or educators present lectures and instruction> on healing reactions and medication uses.> Charlotte Gerson and/or other senior Gerson

Institute staff members lecture> on the theory and practice of the Gerson Therapy, scientific rationales and> relevant research.> Instruction and demonstration of two-piece, press-type juicers, such as the> Norwalk Juicer. > Videotapes of lectures by Charlotte Gerson, other Gerson Institute staff,> and Gerson-trained physicians are available for viewing at any time.> Regular, individualized consultation with your Gerson physician on the> specifics of your condition and any necessary modifications to the treatment.> During this time, any specific questions you have may be addressed.> > > > Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401 > wrote:> Molly, have you ever read the information provided by the man who> used coffee enemas to cure cancer?> > Dr. Max Gerson is his name. He was an Austrian Jew that

survived the> Holocaust, while the rest of his family perished. HE was a genius, and he> suffered greatly to make sure the rest of the world had the necessary> information to heal from cancer. He lived a sacrificial life so that others> would live with health. See www.gerson.org.> > Don't be so quick to judge something that you have not researched fully.> Coffee enemas are not harmful. If you read information from those who have a> vested interest in suppressing cancer cures, you are going to get less than> truthful "facts" or opinions. I don't have to rehash that subject, right? I> mean, follow the money, follow the money, follow the money.....> > An MD here in Las Vegas that my husband and I went to see told us that he> has done them for 20 years--EVERY DAY. When I asked him about possible health> concerns from doing them too often, that is when he emailed me about

his> consistent use of them. He has not been harmed, and he recommends them to> everyone. > > My husband and I have done coffee enemas for the past 5 years or so. No> harm here!> Patty> > Molly Bloom <mollyb54bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:> I didn't mean to sound so harsh, Kendra. I'm sorry.> > It concerns me that so many women who have little money spend it on things of> dubious > benefit. > > And yes, there are many things in traditional medicine that are worthless.> There is a lot of> money in pharmaceuticals, for example, that are often dangerous. But there is> also a lot > of money in 'natural' preparations that may be equally dangerous.> > For example, I have read some alarming reports that coffee enemas are harmful.> I don't > know if they are or are not, but

I know I will never use one.> > >>>>> >>>>> I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I don't>>>>> have>>>>> fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has recognized FMS and CFS as legitimate>>>>> disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS besides>>>>> symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of "tender points" on the body. If a>>>>> person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively diagnosed>>>>> with>>>>> FMS. I have those 18 points and I never knew what they were, thought they>>>>>

were>>>>> invisible bruises!>>>>> >>>>> There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a disturbance in>>>>> phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in a>>>>> system-wide>>>>> cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the body. His>>>>> protocol, guaifenesin, purports to regulate phosphate excretion and thus>>>>> allow>>>>> cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying it, but>>>>> still>>>>> haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with it (small>>>>> meals,>>>>> lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies).>>>>> >>>>> Anyone else tried this?>>>>> >>>>>

Bindi>>>>> >>>>> Bindi>>>>> Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any form of>>>>> definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient has>>>>> certain>>>>> symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As such,>>>>> there>>>>> are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors believe that>>>>> those>>>>> of us who have fibro

will always have it because they don't understand>>>>> the>>>>> reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason I had>>>>> fibro>>>>> is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. Cleaning up>>>>> my>>>>> liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took>>>>> changing>>>>> my>>>>> diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was totally>>>>> symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily.>>>>> >>>>> Kenda>>>>> >>>>>> I was just curious if having fibromyalgia-like symptoms during and after>>>>>> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women who are>>>>>> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are

told that they will "always have it" and>>>>>> that>>>>>> it "can't be cured, only managed." This is what I have been told.>>>>>> I just don't know whether I should just accept it and stop "waiting" to>>>>>> get>>>>>> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and other>>>>>> symptoms>>>>>> are>>>>>> temporary.>>>>>> >>>>>> I'm ten months out, and though I feel far better now than with implants,>>>>>> I>>>>>> still have a lot of muscle and joint pain and I'm exhausted all the time.>>>>>> I>>>>>> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, or I>>>>>> suffer>>>>>> for>>>>>>

days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical post-implant recovery symptoms?>>>>>> >>>>>> Bindi>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------->>> -->>>>> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call>>>>> rates.>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > __________________________________________________>

September 14, 2006

Hi Patty,

Gerson's method really does make sense, thank you for explaining it to me!

You're right, it does make sense for a cancer patient. I didn't quite

understand why he was so big on coffee enemas but I can see that you don't

want the toxins circulating back in your body. Best to get them out

quickly.

Kenda

> Hi Kenda,

> I have not been to a clinic that administers the Gerson therapy, but I have

> talked to Gerson-trained professionals on the phone, read all of Dr Gerson's

> books (every single one of them or those about Gerson) and talked to several

> patients who had done the Gerson therapy in clinics. One woman was a breast

> cancer survivor who did the Gerson therapy and then got a silicone gel

> implant! Blew my socks off! She claimed that she wasn't having any trouble

> from the implant, but she had healed from breast cancer after doing the

> therapy and continuing to do it at home.

>

> I myself bought all of the supplies needed to do the Gerson therapy at home.

> I did the 13 juices a day, used the Lugol's solution, the potassium salts, the

> liver injections, the coffee enemas, made the soup, etc. It was HARD. And

> it brought back my brain fog big time. It was so bad that I had to quit it. I

> have continued to apply the principles to my life though, and if I EVER got

> cancer, I would be doing the Gerson therapy in a heartbeat. I'd go to a

> clinic and have all of the monitoring professionally.

>

> One of the things that they told me was that there were certain conditions

> that required an extraordinary amount of dedication, and there were certain

> conditions that required extra caution. For instance, if you had chemotherapy,

> you could not do the Gerson therapy full blown or without supervision. It is

> because the therapy draws out the toxins so quickly that if you had

> chemotherapy, it would be like getting another dose of chemo and you would get

> all the side effects again. You have to be very slow and deliberate in

> drawing out chemotherapy toxins from the body.

>

> The other thing was that if you had MS, you would have to prepare yourself

> for healing for the long haul. This meant that healing was long, slow, and

> difficult, with exacerbations that would be worse to get through than the

> current symptoms you were experiencing. And the Gerson therapy is not a quick

> fix. It takes several years of therapy to achieve the final healing results.

> But if you had cancer, I think several years of healing for decades of

> additional life would be worth it, right? And he had numerous documented

> cases of people who were terminal--I mean, comatose and on their death beds,

> some even brought to him on stretchers--that he revived and went on to heal

> and they lived decades longer. It was amazing!

>

> The juices are mostly green ones, with a few carrot/apple thrown in. It was

> the green juices that made my brain fog the worst. So, no, the concern about

> the sugar content in the juice is moot. It's the nutrients that they were

> after, and the enzymes that broke down the tumors. The juices release the

> toxicity, the coffee enemas ensure the toxicity is removed from the body.

> They had a period where cancer patients were dying--they were all getting the

> juices and but only a few coffee enemas. What they discovered was happening

> was that the juices were breaking down the tumors at such a fantastic rate

> that they coffee enemas were not keeping up with the toxicity removal. Once

> they stepped up the coffee enemas, the patients stopped dying and went on to

> heal. It proves the validity of both the juices to break down tumors, and the

> coffee enema to release toxicity.

>

> I tried vegetarianism, and found that we need a little meat in our diet. My

> husband is a hunter, so we eat the venison that he brings home, and then

> supplement with fish and chicken. However, we do not eat meat every night or

> even every day. We have meat maybe 3-4 times a week. There are times when

> dinner is a salad and that's it. I agree with using meat as a condiment

> rather than the main dish completely!

> Patty

>

> Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@...> wrote:

> Patty,

>

> Have you ever treated with a Gerson doc? It all makes sense!

>

> I do have a question about consuming so much juice -- doesn't it cause the

> blood sugar to spike because of all of the sugar in the juice?

>

> Do you eat a mostly vegetarian diet? I have been thinking about eating less

> meats. I have been reading up on dietary requirements for vegetarians. I

> couldn't switch totally over but I think it would be healthier to eat meat

> as a condiment, rather than a main dish. As it is, we only have read meat

> once every few weeks but I do serve chicken or fish most every night.

>

> Kenda

>

>> http://www.gerson.org/g_therapy/default.asp

>>

>> Throughout our lives our bodies are being filled with a variety of disease

>> and cancer causing pollutants. These toxins reach us through the air we

>> breathe, the food we eat, the medicines we take and the water we drink. As

>> more of these poisons are used every day and cancer rates continue to climb,

>> being able to turn to a proven, natural, detoxifying treatment like the

>> Gerson

>> Therapy is not only reassuring, but necessary.

>> The Gerson Therapy is a powerful, natural treatment that boosts your body's

>> own immune system to heal cancer, arthritis, heart disease, allergies, and

>> many other degenerative diseases. One aspect of the Gerson Therapy that sets

>> it apart from most other treatment methods is its all-encompassing nature. An

>> abundance of nutrients from thirteen fresh, organic juices are consumed every

>> day, providing your body with a superdose of enzymes, minerals and nutrients.

>> These substances then break down diseased tissue in the body, while enemas

>> aid

>> in eliminating the lifelong buildup of toxins from the liver.

>> With its whole-body approach to healing, the Gerson Therapy naturally

>> reactivates your body's magnificent ability to heal itself - with no damaging

>> side-effects. Over 200 articles in respected medical literature, and

>> thousands

>> of people cured of their " incurable " diseases document the Gerson Therapy's

>> effectiveness. The Gerson Therapy is one of the few treatments to have a 60

>> year history of success.

>> Although its philosophy of cleansing and reactivating the body is simple,

>> the Gerson Therapy is a complex method of treatment requiring significant

>> attention to detail. While many patients have made full recoveries practicing

>> the Gerson Therapy on their own, for best results we encourage starting

>> treatment at a Gerson Institute licensed treatment center.

>> Please Note: The Gerson Institute does not own, operate, or control any

>> treatment facility. We maintain a licensing program with clinics to ensure

>> that patients are receiving true, 100% Gerson care. Be sure your clinic is

>> Gerson Institute Licensed to provide the Gerson Therapy. Phone the Gerson

>> Institute to discuss how the Gerson Therapy can help you. We will be happy to

>> answer your questions. Within the U.S. call 1-888-4GERSON, outside the U.S.

>> please phone 619-685-5353.

>> The Gerson Therapy is a state of the art, contemporary, alternative and

>> natural treatment which utilizes the body's own healing mechanism in the

>> treatment and cure of chronic debilitating illness. When it was introduced to

>> the world by Max Gerson, M.D., the dietary therapy was so far ahead of its

>> time that there were almost no rationales available in the scientific

>> literature to explain how it could produce cures in chronic as well as

>> infectious diseases. But, because it did cure many cases of advanced

>> tuberculosis, heart disease, cancer and numerous lesser conditions, the

>> Gerson

>> Therapy was established as a major contribution to the medical field, through

>> the publication of articles in peer reviewed medical literature. Gerson first

>> published on the topic of cancer in 1945, almost forty years before the

>> adoption of the current official U.S. National Cancer Institute program on

>> diet, nutrition, and cancer.

>> Max Gerson treated many hundreds of patients and continued to develop and

>> refine his therapy up until his death in 1959, at the age of 78. His most

>> famous patient was Dr. Albert Schweitzer, whom Gerson cured of advanced

>> diabetes when Schweitzer was 75. Schweitzer returned to his African hospital,

>> won the Nobel prize, and worked past age 90. Schweitzer wrote " I see in Dr.

>> Gerson one of the most eminent geniuses in the history of medicine. "

>> Most recently, Dr. Gerson was recognized as a pioneer in his field when he

>> was inducted into the Orthomolecular Medicine Hall of Fame in Ottawa, Canada

>> on May 14, 2005. He joined seven other giants of medicine whose seminal work

>> has been influential in the medical and scientific worlds, and are considered

>> pioneers in their respective fields.

>> It is rare to find cancer, arthritis, or other degenerative diseases in

>> cultures considered " primitive " by Western civilization. Is it because of

>> diet? The fact that degenerative diseases appear in these cultures only when

>> modern packaged foods and additives are introduced would certainly support

>> that idea. Max Gerson said " Stay close to nature and its eternal laws will

>> protect you. " He considered that degenerative diseases were brought on by

>> toxic, degraded food, water and air.

>> The Gerson Therapy seeks to regenerate the body to health, supporting each

>> important metabolic requirement by flooding the body with nutrients from

>> almost 20 pounds of organically grown fruits and vegetables daily. Most is

>> used to make fresh raw juice, one glass every hour, 13 times per day. Raw and

>> cooked solid foods are generously consumed. Oxygenation is usually more than

>> doubled, as oxygen deficiency in the blood contributes to many degenerative

>> diseases. The metabolism is also stimulated through the addition of thyroid,

>> potassium and other supplements, and by avoiding heavy animal fats, excess

>> protein, sodium and other toxins.

>> Degenerative diseases render the body increasingly unable to excrete waste

>> materials adequately, commonly resulting in liver and kidney failure. To

>> prevent this, the Gerson Therapy uses intensive detoxification to eliminate

>> wastes, regenerate the liver, reactivate the immune system and restore the

>> body's essential defenses - enzyme, mineral and hormone systems. With

>> generous, high-quality nutrition, increased oxygen availability,

>> detoxification, and improved metabolism, the cells - and the body - can

>> regenerate, become healthy and prevent future illness.

>> No treatment works for everyone, every time. Anyone who tells you otherwise

>> is not giving you the facts. We know that when you have been diagnosed with a

>> life-threatening ailment, choosing the best strategy for fighting your

>> illness

>> can be a bewildering task. Everyone claims to have either " the best

>> treatment " , " the fastest cure " , or " the only therapy that works. " In most

>> cases your trusted family physician only has knowledge of conventional

>> treatments, and is either unaware of, or even hostile toward alternative

>> options. No matter how many opinions you receive on how to treat your

>> disease,

>> you are going to make the final decision on what to do, and you must be

>> comfortable with your decision. Choose a treatment that makes the most sense

>> to you.

>> Most therapies, conventional or alternative treat only the individual

>> symptoms while ignoring what is ultimately causing the disease. The reason

>> the

>> Gerson Therapy is effective with so many different ailments is because it

>> restores the body's incredible ability to heal itself. Rather than treating

>> only the symptoms of a particular disease, the Gerson Therapy treats the

>> cause

>> of the disease itself. Although we feel the Gerson Therapy is the most

>> comprehensive treatment for disease, we don't claim it will cure everything

>> or

>> everyone.

>> Although the Gerson Institute does not own or operate any medical

>> facilities, we do refer patients to clinics which are fully licensed by the

>> Gerson Institute to provide the Gerson Therapy. Whether you plan to follow

>> the

>> treatment on your own at home, would like to schedule admittance to a clinic,

>> or simply have questions about the Therapy, we encourage you to contact one

>> of

>> our client service representatives at the Gerson Institute.

>>

>> Caution: Do not start the Gerson Therapy without the supervision of a Gerson

>> practitioner if any of the following conditions apply:

>>

>> Chemotherapy

>> Diabetes

>> Brain metastases

>> Severe kidney damage

>> Foreign bodies such as pacemakers, breast implants, steel plates or screws.

>> Patients must be able to eat, drink and eliminate normally.

>> The Gerson Therapy cannot be administered to organ transplant recipients.

>>

>> Juicing is an essential component of the Gerson Therapy. To ensure reliable

>> results, the Gerson patient will need to purchase an appropriate juicer. Dr.

>> Gerson's research indicates that cancer patients must have a two- stage

>> juicer

>> with a separate grinder and hydraulic press. One-step juicers generally do

>> not

>> produce the same quality of enzyme, mineral or micronutrient content, and

>> some

>> patients have failed to experience results simply by using the wrong juicer.

>> We do not recommend the use of any centrifugal-type juicers for Gerson

>> patients. Other non-centrifugal juicers may be used for health maintenance or

>> non-cancer diagnoses.

>> If you are intersted in learning more about the press-type juicers, please

>> contact the Norwalk Juicer Representatives, Boger or Gisela Summer at

>> 1-800-405-8423/760-436-9684 outside the US.

>>

>> The Gerson diet is naturally high in vitamins, minerals, enzymes,

>> micro-nutrients, extremely low in sodium and fats, and rich in fluids.

>> The following is a typical daily diet for a Gerson patient on the full

>> therapy regimen:

>>

>> Thirteen glasses of fresh, raw carrot/apple and green-leaf juices prepared

>> hourly from fresh, organic fruits and vegetables.

>> Three full vegetarian meals, freshly prepared from organically grown

>> fruits, vegetables and whole grains. A typical meal will include salad,

>> cooked

>> vegetables, baked potatoes, vegetable soup and juice.

>> Fresh fruit and fresh fruit dessert available at all hours for snacking, in

>> addition to the regular diet.

>>

>> All medications used in connection with the Gerson Therapy are classed as

>> biologicals, materials of organic origin that are supplied in therapeutic

>> amounts.

>>

>> Potassium compound

>> Lugol's solution

>> Vitamin B-12

>> Thyroid hormone

>> Injectable Crude Liver Extract

>> Pancreatic Enzymes

>> Enemas of coffee and/or chamomile

>>

>> A very important part of the Gerson Therapy is frequent detoxification of

>> the tissues and blood. This is accomplished through a variety of means, first

>> and foremost through the use of coffee enemas.

>> The scientific basis for the use of coffee enemas is well documented, and

>> can be obtained from the Gerson Institute. Patients report that the enemas

>> decrease pain and hasten healing. Biologically, enzyme systems of the gut

>> wall

>> and liver are stimulated, and bile flow is increased. This has been shown to

>> enhance the body's ability to eliminate toxic residues from environmental,

>> chemotherapeutic, and other sources.

>> Tumor and other diseased tissue is also more rapidly eliminated as it is

>> broken down.

>> Other means of detoxification include castor oil, used as an additional

>> stimulant of bile flow and as another way to enhance the liver's ability to

>> filter blood. In addition, digestive enzymes serve to enhance absorption of

>> nutrients as well as assist in the elimination of damaged tissue.

>> Patients must have a complete understanding of the Gerson Therapy so that

>> they may effectively continue the regimen at home after leaving the treatment

>> center. The following are examples of educational opportunities at a typical

>> licensed Gerson facility:

>>

>> Gerson-trained physicians and/or educators present lectures and instruction

>> on healing reactions and medication uses.

>> Charlotte Gerson and/or other senior Gerson Institute staff members lecture

>> on the theory and practice of the Gerson Therapy, scientific rationales and

>> relevant research.

>> Instruction and demonstration of two-piece, press-type juicers, such as the

>> Norwalk Juicer.

>> Videotapes of lectures by Charlotte Gerson, other Gerson Institute staff,

>> and Gerson-trained physicians are available for viewing at any time.

>> Regular, individualized consultation with your Gerson physician on the

>> specifics of your condition and any necessary modifications to the treatment.

>> During this time, any specific questions you have may be addressed.

>>

>> Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>> Molly, have you ever read the information provided by the man who

>> used coffee enemas to cure cancer?

>>

>> Dr. Max Gerson is his name. He was an Austrian Jew that survived the

>> Holocaust, while the rest of his family perished. HE was a genius, and he

>> suffered greatly to make sure the rest of the world had the necessary

>> information to heal from cancer. He lived a sacrificial life so that others

>> would live with health. See www.gerson.org.

>>

>> Don't be so quick to judge something that you have not researched fully.

>> Coffee enemas are not harmful. If you read information from those who have a

>> vested interest in suppressing cancer cures, you are going to get less than

>> truthful " facts " or opinions. I don't have to rehash that subject, right? I

>> mean, follow the money, follow the money, follow the money.....

>>

>> An MD here in Las Vegas that my husband and I went to see told us that he

>> has done them for 20 years--EVERY DAY. When I asked him about possible health

>> concerns from doing them too often, that is when he emailed me about his

>> consistent use of them. He has not been harmed, and he recommends them to

>> everyone.

>>

>> My husband and I have done coffee enemas for the past 5 years or so. No

>> harm here!

>> Patty

>>

>> Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote:

>> I didn't mean to sound so harsh, Kendra. I'm sorry.

>>

>> It concerns me that so many women who have little money spend it on things of

>> dubious

>> benefit.

>>

>> And yes, there are many things in traditional medicine that are worthless.

>> There is a lot of

>> money in pharmaceuticals, for example, that are often dangerous. But there is

>> also a lot

>> of money in 'natural' preparations that may be equally dangerous.

>>

>> For example, I have read some alarming reports that coffee enemas are

>> harmful.

>> I don't

>> know if they are or are not, but I know I will never use one.

>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I don't

>>>>>> have

>>>>>> fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has recognized FMS and CFS as legitimate

>>>>>> disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS besides

>>>>>> symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of " tender points " on the body. If

>>>>>> a

>>>>>> person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively diagnosed

>>>>>> with

>>>>>> FMS. I have those 18 points and I never knew what they were, thought they

>>>>>> were

>>>>>> invisible bruises!

>>>>>>

>>>>>> There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a disturbance in

>>>>>> phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in a

>>>>>> system-wide

>>>>>> cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the body. His

>>>>>> protocol, guaifenesin, purports to regulate phosphate excretion and thus

>>>>>> allow

>>>>>> cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying it, but

>>>>>> still

>>>>>> haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with it (small

>>>>>> meals,

>>>>>> lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Anyone else tried this?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>> Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any form of

>>>>>> definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient has

>>>>>> certain

>>>>>> symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As such,

>>>>>> there

>>>>>> are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors believe that

>>>>>> those

>>>>>> of us who have fibro will always have it because they don't understand

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason I had

>>>>>> fibro

>>>>>> is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. Cleaning up

>>>>>> my

>>>>>> liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took

>>>>>> changing

>>>>>> my

>>>>>> diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was totally

>>>>>> symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Kenda

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I was just curious if having fibromyalgia-like symptoms during and after

>>>>>>> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women who are

>>>>>>> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are told that they will " always have it " and

>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>> it " can't be cured, only managed. " This is what I have been told.

>>>>>>> I just don't know whether I should just accept it and stop " waiting " to

>>>>>>> get

>>>>>>> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and other

>>>>>>> symptoms

>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>> temporary.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I'm ten months out, and though I feel far better now than with implants,

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> still have a lot of muscle and joint pain and I'm exhausted all the

>>>>>>> time.

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, or I

>>>>>>> suffer

>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical post-implant recovery symptoms?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bindi

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>

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