Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 I wish I could help you, but I'm not a doctor so I can't suggest what your pain might be from. Since it's on the right side and below the rib cage it's possible, yes, that it's related to the gallbladder. Have you seen a doctor, MD, ND - anyone about this pain? If you're concerned that what you're experiencing might lead to something more serious, that might be a good idea. I think that these lists are great for support and advice, but it seems that it would be helpful to have someone diagnose it who can ask the necessary question and actually see you and feel the area you're referring to. Sometimes they can detect a swelling or sensitivity by the touch and these are things that nobody out here can do. That might be why your question wasn't responded to when you previously asked it. At least that's why I didn't respond - I didn't feel qualified. But for the sake of you not feeling " out there " alone, I'm writing this email in response to your plea. Does the pain occur after EVERY time that you eat, or only when you eat certain foods. How long does the pain last? I know you said it goes away after a bowel movement, but how long after you eat does that occur? Does it happen immediately after you eat, or after a space of time? Does it always hurt when you press on it, or only after you eat? In other words, if you didn't feel the pain but pressed on that area, would you still feel the pain? How much water do you typically drink through the course of a day? What are your eating habits like - do you notice that any particular type of food triggers this pain? Does anything seem to help alleviate it other than a bowel movement (i.e., exercise, drinking water, burping). This might sound like an inquisition! But these questions might give someone else on the list a little more to go on with ideas about your pain, but I do still think that it's a good idea to see a qualified professional - whether that's an MD or an ND or whatever. But please, if you are experiencing this on a regular basis - see someone who can diagnose you in a qualified way. Also, since you have a hunch that it might be related to the gallbladder, have you done a cleanse yet? If so, what effect did that have on the pain that you experience? Please keep us posted on how you're doing and what you're doing about the pain, ok? in health, In a message dated 2/5/02 12:35:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, FlyingABar@... writes: > Please, I've asked this question now a few times. Please someone answer me. > > I have a pain on my right side, directly below my rib cage. I get it after > I > eat. It then dissapates shortly thereafter, or if I have a bowel movement > it > also goes away. It's always in the same place. Feels like the size and > shape of a small lemon under there. More discomfort, also when I press on > it > slightly it hurts like heck. Also it is always later in the day or > especially at night, never early in the day that I feel this > pain/discomfort. > I was thinking it was gas maybe. > > Is this my gallbladder in the begginning stages acting up? I want to know > before I have to go to emergancy room with horrible pain in some major > attack, please. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 Hi , I agree with 's excellent post. It's hard to tell someone for sure what's going on with them, as we are lay people. We can tell you what we've experienced ourselves, which is what I'd like to do. I'm a 44-year old female, and over a period of six months, I'd have pain in the center of my abdomen, below the V the ribs make, after a meal containing fat. The pain came on within a half hour of eating, and would go away after about 1 to 3 hrs. It felt like a belly ache, like something I ate didn't sit right in my stomach. However, the attacks became more frequent, and more painful as time went on. The pain lasted longer and longer. I developed painful feelings of gas, and bowel rumblings. The pain then extended to my right side, under my ribs, and it was painful or tender to the touch most of the time, especially after a meal containing fat, as well as protein. It was swollen, in the sense that it felt like I had a grapefruit under my ribs, and I could not take any pressure there at all. I was in excruciating pain if I ate anything other than fruit. Other people experience radiating pain towards the back on the right side as well, but I did not. Adrienne --- Rachd1961@... wrote: > > I wish I could help you, but I'm not a doctor so I can't suggest what > your > pain might be from. Since it's on the right side and below the rib > cage it's > possible, yes, that it's related to the gallbladder. Have you > seen a > doctor, MD, ND - anyone about this pain? If you're concerned that > what you're > experiencing might lead to something more serious, that might be a > good idea. > I think that these lists are great for support and advice, but it > seems that > it would be helpful to have someone diagnose it who can ask the > necessary > question and actually see you and feel the area you're referring to. > > Sometimes they can detect a swelling or sensitivity by the touch and > these > are things that nobody out here can do. That might be why your > question > wasn't responded to when you previously asked it. At least that's > why I > didn't respond - I didn't feel qualified. But for the sake of you > not > feeling " out there " alone, I'm writing this email in response to your > plea. > > Does the pain occur after EVERY time that you eat, or only when you > eat > certain foods. How long does the pain last? I know you said it goes > away > after a bowel movement, but how long after you eat does that occur? > Does it > happen immediately after you eat, or after a space of time? Does it > always > hurt when you press on it, or only after you eat? In other words, if > you > didn't feel the pain but pressed on that area, would you still feel > the pain? > How much water do you typically drink through the course of a day? > What are > your eating habits like - do you notice that any particular type of > food > triggers this pain? Does anything seem to help alleviate it other > than a > bowel movement (i.e., exercise, drinking water, burping). > > This might sound like an inquisition! But these questions might > give > someone else on the list a little more to go on with ideas about your > pain, > but I do still think that it's a good idea to see a qualified > professional - > whether that's an MD or an ND or whatever. But please, if you are > experiencing this on a regular basis - see someone who can diagnose > you in a > qualified way. > > Also, since you have a hunch that it might be related to the > gallbladder, > have you done a cleanse yet? If so, what effect did that have on the > pain > that you experience? > > Please keep us posted on how you're doing and what you're doing about > the > pain, ok? > > in health, > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/5/02 12:35:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > FlyingABar@... writes: > > > > Please, I've asked this question now a few times. Please someone > answer me. > > > > I have a pain on my right side, directly below my rib cage. I get > it after > > I > > eat. It then dissapates shortly thereafter, or if I have a bowel > movement > > it > > also goes away. It's always in the same place. Feels like the > size and > > shape of a small lemon under there. More discomfort, also when I > press on > > it > > slightly it hurts like heck. Also it is always later in the day or > > > especially at night, never early in the day that I feel this > > pain/discomfort. > > I was thinking it was gas maybe. > > > > Is this my gallbladder in the begginning stages acting up? I want > to know > > before I have to go to emergancy room with horrible pain in some > major > > attack, please. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 OK, now I'll add my experience. I suffered initially only a few times a year and didn't know what was wrong---only 18 or 19 yrs old. Attacks kept me up all night, I finally found out that making myself throw up was my only relief. By the time I was 27 years old I was having attacks every night no matter what I ate and I felt very drained, not only from the pain and not being able to eat, but from the sleep deprivation. I had mine removed and haven't looked back. However, I am planning to cleanse my liver because I truly believe for myself that some minor problems I have are a result of no gallbladder and a sluggish liver. Things that would trigger an attack: Peanut Butter, soda pop--especially cola--mint, chocolate, alcohol, fat. My husband started waking up last summer with " back spasms " . I didn't know what to do for him. It wasn't until October that he said " I would feel better if I could just reach in here under my ribs and pull this knot out. " I immediately realized it had to be his gallbladder. It always happened at night, it was worse if he ate any of the above mentioned foods. Had I known about this liver/gallbladder cleansing stuff I would have made him do it! He did find relief when he ate the things I prepared for him: A licorice/fennel tea especially for detoxing the liver, no fat whatsoever, he drank clear no-fat chicken broth, salads with no-fat dressing, bland stuff like rice and potatoes. We didn't know about the cleanse, he was so eager to be " normal " again, he had it removed the end of November. My suggestion to you is to go get it diagnosed. If it is your gallbladder, decide if you want to try the cleanse. I haven't done it yet, but plan to soon. Maybe you can avoid surgery. I know if I tapped on my right side ribs or if I jumped, there was a painful vibration in there. The doctor said that was a sign it was gallbladder. Hope something here helps. Janet FlyingABar@... wrote: > Please, I've asked this question now a few times. Please someone answer me. > I have a pain on my right side, directly below my rib cage. I get it after I > eat. It then dissapates shortly thereafter, or if I have a bowel movement it > also goes away. It's always in the same place. Feels like the size and > shape of a small lemon under there. More discomfort, also when I press on it > slightly it hurts like heck. Also it is always later in the day or > especially at night, never early in the day that I feel this pain/discomfort. > I was thinking it was gas maybe. > > Is this my gallbladder in the begginning stages acting up? I want to know > before I have to go to emergancy room with horrible pain in some major > attack, please. > > Thanks, > > > > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories: > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: > http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > Images: > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > Post message: gallstones > Receive no-mail: gallstones-nomail > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe > > Web Sites for more information: > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/ > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > > Group page: gallstones > > To change your subscription to digest (receive up to 25 e-mails in just one single e-mail, once a day) send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > > To change your subscription to NORMAL (receive each message separate) > send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > Have a nice day ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2002 Report Share Posted February 5, 2002 , This is EXACTLY what I have. Ultrasound showed a 1cm stone in my gallbladder. I think you must have a stone(s) in the gallbladder. Antispasmatic medicine will relieve the night time pain in a matter of minutes but you should also do 5 to 10 cleanses and see how you feel after that. I am currently on my 4th flush and feel much better. I'm not sure if the stone is gone yet or not because I still want to do one more flush before another ultrasound. I actually don't know if it is out yet because I have no pain when eating whatever I want now. Try it. It may work for you too. The alterative of cutting out your gallbladder should be avoided if possible. Barry. > Please, I've asked this question now a few times. Please someone answer me. > I have a pain on my right side, directly below my rib cage. I get it after I > eat. It then dissapates shortly thereafter, or if I have a bowel movement it > also goes away. It's always in the same place. Feels like the size and > shape of a small lemon under there. More discomfort, also when I press on it > slightly it hurts like heck. Also it is always later in the day or > especially at night, never early in the day that I feel this pain/discomfort. > I was thinking it was gas maybe. > > Is this my gallbladder in the begginning stages acting up? I want to know > before I have to go to emergancy room with horrible pain in some major > attack, please. > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2002 Report Share Posted February 6, 2002 , I'm not an expert but it sounds like it is your GB. Have you done flushes yet? I would! of Dewberry Hill said: I have a pain on my right side, directly below my rib cage. I get it after I eat. It then dissapates shortly thereafter, or if I have a bowel movement it also goes away. It's always in the same place. Feels like the size and shape of a small lemon under there. More discomfort, also when I press on it slightly it hurts like heck. Also it is always later in the day or especially at night, never early in the day that I feel this pain/discomfort. I was thinking it was gas maybe. Is this my gallbladder in the begginning stages acting up? I want to know before I have to go to emergancy room with horrible pain in some major attack, please. " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. " Holy Bible --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2002 Report Share Posted February 7, 2002 : >Does the pain occur after EVERY time that you eat, or only when you eat certain foods. When I eat a steak and a couple of fries it hurts the worst and that is in the evening. >How long does the pain last? Only about an hour or so. >I know you said it goes away after a bowel movement, but how long after you eat does that occur? Almost immediately or within 1/2 hr. or less >Does it always hurt when you press on it, or only after you eat? In other words, if you didn't feel the pain but pressed on that area, would you still feel the pain? It will not hurt early in the day, only after dinner. I probably eat more fat with that meal also. But even if it doesn't hurt if I press on it I can feel some discomfort there. How much water do you typically drink through the course of a day? Gallons! Big water drinker all day. >What are your eating habits like - do you notice that any particular type of food triggers this pain? Does anything seem to help alleviate it other than a bowel movement (i.e., exercise, drinking water, burping). Sometimes just plain 'ol farting or having a bowel movement makes it go away immediately. That's why I almost wondered if it was gas. But why would I have gas in the same place almost daily? That's what made me think it was my gallbladder. I need to find a sugar free colon cleanse and blow out my colon and clean it out. My bowel movements are not healthy either lately. I feel I'm eating more than is coming out and it's not firm as it should be. I eat a prettty low fat diet. Even my steak at night is very very lean and only about 2 oz. with a handful of fries or something. One more thing I don't understand, if fats can bother your gallbladder why does olive oil help remove stones and not bother one? I asked this question once before but they came back that it was answered already..guess I missed it. I'm on several lists and it makes it difficult. Trying to learn all I can. Thanks so much for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2002 Report Share Posted February 8, 2002 It does sound like all the classic symptoms of gallbladder problems. It's STILL a good idea, though, to have a medical professional check you out. Are you planning to try the cleanse? That would be my first course of action if I was in your shoes. You might be amazed at the difference it makes with the symptoms you're experiencing. Even though the steak is lean, remember that it is still a source of cholesterol. If your gallbladder is overloaded with cholesterol stones, a daily steak is just adding to the challenge. I'm not a vegetarian (although I was for a time), but I do know that animal meat takes SO much longer for the body to process and this could be contributing to bowel problems. You mentioned the steak and fries, but beyond that you just said that your diet was pretty low fat. Can you be more specific? In other words - are you including fresh fruits/vegetables in your daily routine? If not - just adding them can be a big help to your bowel movements. Now to answer your question about the olive oil in the cleanse. During the day of the cleanse a person will have consumed NO fat. People stop eating at different times - personally I've chosen to do a juice fast on the day of the cleanse. But the idea is that there is no fat consumed that day, giving the body about 24 hours with no fat consumed (since the previous evening meal). During that time the liver is continuing to produce bile and send it into the gallbladder. So the gallbladder is filling up with bile since it hasn't had any need to send it on. When a person drinks the olive oil, that's the first sign of fat the body has seen in about 24 hours. It contracts in response to the oil and sends the bile into the small intestines to help the body process the fat that has been consumed. Since there was a substantial amount of bile in the gallbladder at the time, stones are generally flushed out with it when the gallbladder contracts. It's the additional bile in the gallbladder at the time that gets the stones moving. So - you're still wondering - why doesn't it bother the gallbladder? Some would say that it's because of the Epsom Salts and others would say that it's because of the lemon/grapefruit juice. I would go for the latter, simply because I know that in the past when I'd had a gallbladder attack, drinking lemon water would help it subside. I don't know if that actually answers your question or not, but I gave it a try! So now the question for you is - what are you going to do about it? Not that you need to answer that out here, but hopefully for your own sake you will answer it so that you can avoid more serious problems down the road. One of the most important things for your overall health (in my opinion) is to get those bowels moving well. I'd go first for including more fresh fruits and vegetables in your diet, if you don't already do that. That's just my preference - to go for dietary changes before taking anything - even if it's herbal. And one parting thought - WAY TO GO with all the water you drink! A gallon a day - that's awesome! in health, In a message dated 2/7/02 11:51:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, FlyingABar@... writes: > >Does the pain occur after EVERY time that you eat, or only when you eat > certain foods. > When I eat a steak and a couple of fries it hurts the worst and that is in > the evening. > > >How long does the pain last? > Only about an hour or so. > > >I know you said it goes away after a bowel movement, but how long after > you > eat does that occur? > Almost immediately or within 1/2 hr. or less > > >Does it always hurt when you press on it, or only after you eat? In other > > words, if you didn't feel the pain but pressed on that area, would you > still > feel the pain? > It will not hurt early in the day, only after dinner. I probably eat more > fat with that meal also. But even if it doesn't hurt if I press on it I > can > feel some discomfort there. > >How much water do you typically drink through the course of a day? > Gallons! Big water drinker all day. > >What are your eating habits like - do you notice that any particular type > of > food > triggers this pain? Does anything seem to help alleviate it other than a > bowel movement (i.e., exercise, drinking water, burping). > Sometimes just plain 'ol farting or having a bowel movement makes it go > away > immediately. That's why I almost wondered if it was gas. But why would I > have gas in the same place almost daily? That's what made me think it was > my > gallbladder. > I need to find a sugar free colon cleanse and blow out my colon and clean > it > out. My bowel movements are not healthy either lately. I feel I'm eating > more than is coming out and it's not firm as it should be. I eat a prettty > > low fat diet. Even my steak at night is very very lean and only about 2 > oz. > with a handful of fries or something. > > One more thing I don't understand, if fats can bother your gallbladder why > does olive oil help remove stones and not bother one? I asked this > question > once before but they came back that it was answered already..guess I missed > > it. I'm on several lists and it makes it difficult. Trying to learn all I > > can. > Thanks so much for your help! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2002 Report Share Posted February 9, 2002 Cholesterol taken in food is not the problem, it is the cholesterol that is made by the body that causes the problems. nne > Even though the steak is lean, remember that it is still a source of > cholesterol. If your gallbladder is overloaded with cholesterol stones, a > > daily steak is just adding to the challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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