Re: Magnetic stone shrinking methods...

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/2/02 00:39:32 GMT Standard Time, barry91162@...

writes:

Along with gallstones and other problems, I suffer with Cero Negative

Arthritis. I heard about a young boy of 9 who suffered with a serious

childhood arthritis and could hardly get out of bed in the mornings let alone

play like a normal child. His parents never gave up looking for alternative

ways of helping once they were introduced to one type of alternative therapy.

About 18 months ago they heard about magnetic therapy and purchased a Nikken

magnetic mattress, pillow and duvet for the child (at great expense). Today

he is pretty much like a normal child and does not suffer half the pain he

used too. However, I purchased a mattress and duvet (pillows are far too

hard for me) and really do not feel any major benefit, I developed the

gallstone problem in the last year and have had the mattress for almost that

so I think that could answer your question but who knows, it may work for

you. Nikken is a MLM and I should have known better but that is life. To

purchase a double mattress (not the divan/bedstead) would cost in the region

of US$1700.

Hope this helps a little.

nne

> Has anyone ever heard of the alternative medicine methods of magnetic

> energy? I've heard that some holistic type medical people are using

> magnets to cure many ails in the body. Things like cancer,

> hemorroids, cysts on the skin, etc.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Barry,

I've heard my husband say that the magnets that are sold for " health "

reasons, are too weak to alter any physiologic processes. If that's

true, than why do people say they've been helped? Don't know, unless

you explain it by saying the magnets have a placebo effect, however,

considering the amount of money that can be made from selling magnets,

it's a lot to pay for a placebo. Just one opinion.

Adrienne

--- barry91162 <barry91162@...> wrote:

> Hi Stonies,

>

> Has anyone ever heard of the alternative medicine methods of magnetic

>

> energy? I've heard that some holistic type medical people are using

> magnets to cure many ails in the body. Things like cancer,

> hemorroids, cysts on the skin, etc.

>

> The skin cysts for instance; a little ball of calcium or something

> growing just under the skin on the neck, arms, etc can be removed by

>

> a dozen or so treatments of placing magnets on certain areas of the

> body and creating some kind of energy flow through the body relating

> to the earth gravital magnetic pull, etc, etc.

>

> Anyway, I was wondering (if anyone knows about this method of cure)

> if anyone would think it was possible to lay the magnets near the gb

> area ( say one on front of gb and opposite pole on back ) and thus

> reduce the stone size over a short period of time.Then flush the $%

> ^ & @#%$ out using a good cleanse. :-)

>

> Just a thought. :-)

>

> Barry.

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks nne,

I don't want to purchase a 'blanket' but was wondering if placing

magnets on the gb and behind the back would cause a flow of + & -

energy across the gb in order to reduce or slowly breakdown a hard

calcified stone over time. I have heard magnets used to desolve large

cysts under the skin and was thinking maybe the strong magnetic

energy would do something to the stones over time. One site I found

online about magnetic therapy actually mentioned liver/kidney stones

but not in detail unless you pay hundreds to investigate. This

doesn't mean it won't work, I was only asking for anyone who may have

any experience with magnetic therapy for stones. Haven't heard it

mentioned here.

Barry.

> In a message dated 5/2/02 00:39:32 GMT Standard Time,

barry91162@y...

> writes:

>

> Along with gallstones and other problems, I suffer with Cero

Negative

> Arthritis. I heard about a young boy of 9 who suffered with a

serious

> childhood arthritis and could hardly get out of bed in the mornings

let alone

> play like a normal child. His parents never gave up looking for

alternative

> ways of helping once they were introduced to one type of

alternative therapy.

> About 18 months ago they heard about magnetic therapy and

purchased a Nikken

> magnetic mattress, pillow and duvet for the child (at great

expense). Today

> he is pretty much like a normal child and does not suffer half the

pain he

> used too. However, I purchased a mattress and duvet (pillows are

far too

> hard for me) and really do not feel any major benefit, I developed

the

> gallstone problem in the last year and have had the mattress for

almost that

> so I think that could answer your question but who knows, it may

work for

> you. Nikken is a MLM and I should have known better but that is

life. To

> purchase a double mattress (not the divan/bedstead) would cost in

the region

> of US$1700.

>

> Hope this helps a little.

> nne

>

> > Has anyone ever heard of the alternative medicine methods of

magnetic

> > energy? I've heard that some holistic type medical people are

using

> > magnets to cure many ails in the body. Things like cancer,

> > hemorroids, cysts on the skin, etc.

> >

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Adrienne,

I've actually heard the opposite. That the magnets used are powerful

enough to create change. The whole theory of the earth's magnetic

field and the brain working on the same 7 mhz wavelenghts, etc, is

all very interesting. I've even seen it's results on skin cysts with

a workmate. In only 4 sessions into the clinic his wrist cyst

dissappeared. Maybe it was somewhat mental suggestion but he is sold

on it. I may go in and ask them about gb stones and report back to

the group about it since I haven't heard of the alternative method

mentioned here. Who knows?

Barry.

> > Hi Stonies,

> >

> > Has anyone ever heard of the alternative medicine methods of

magnetic

> >

> > energy? I've heard that some holistic type medical people are

using

> > magnets to cure many ails in the body. Things like cancer,

> > hemorroids, cysts on the skin, etc.

> >

> > The skin cysts for instance; a little ball of calcium or

something

> > growing just under the skin on the neck, arms, etc can be removed

by

> >

> > a dozen or so treatments of placing magnets on certain areas of

the

> > body and creating some kind of energy flow through the body

relating

> > to the earth gravital magnetic pull, etc, etc.

> >

> > Anyway, I was wondering (if anyone knows about this method of

cure)

> > if anyone would think it was possible to lay the magnets near the

gb

> > area ( say one on front of gb and opposite pole on back ) and

thus

> > reduce the stone size over a short period of time.Then flush the $

%

> > ^ & @#%$ out using a good cleanse. :-)

> >

> > Just a thought. :-)

> >

> > Barry.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Betsy,

This workmates cyst was on the wrist in a very fragile or dangerous

area inside the skin. Operation had some risks to it so he went for

the 'non-knife' method and it worked for him over a period of only a

few weeks with a magnetic theory method.

How long did you suggest to keep the garlic over the cyst? A few

hours a day or all day long?

I've always been curious about alternative medine as well. Do you

remember those old Foxfire books about alt. methods? Like rubbing a

potato on a wart and then burying it in the backyard on a full moon

night? Some people swear that stuff works. :-)

Barry.

> > I've actually heard the opposite. That the magnets used are

powerful

> > enough to create change. The whole theory of the earth's magnetic

> > field and the brain working on the same 7 mhz wavelenghts, etc, is

> > all very interesting. I've even seen it's results on skin cysts

with

> > a workmate. In only 4 sessions into the clinic his wrist cyst

> > dissappeared. Maybe it was somewhat mental suggestion but he is

sold

> > on it. I may go in and ask them about gb stones and report back to

> > the group about it since I haven't heard of the alternative method

> > mentioned here. Who knows?

> >

> > Barry.

> >

[Guest guest]

I'll just tell you a bit about magnets, and that's simply that a lot of

testing has been done to show that they do in fact work. The reason they

work is because of what is known as the Hall effect. This is an electrical

situation where something will heat up because of the changing polarities of

magnetic fields. In the case of magnets they would need to be a multiple of

North and South in an area to accomplish this with the blood supply as it

passes from one point to another. Some manufacturer have multiple rings of

magnets so that the blood supply cutting across a path will be influenced by

the negative and positive polarities, others have small squares of north and

south bundled together.

I could also get into explaining why it is that the national electrical code

requires a wire from each phase of a transformer to be in each conduit of a

multi conduit system. It is because of the vary reason of the Hall effect

that this requirement is in the code. If each phase of a system was in one

individual conduit there is a tremendous heat build up at the junction of an

electrical box. It really is quite an amazing phenomena.

As for the magnets shrinking stones I would find that is possible if

considered under the factor of an included diet. I don't see that the Hall

effect can work other than to allow a greater blood flow to occur in the

area of the liver and the gallbladder. This in turn would allow for a

greater exchange of oxygen to the cells and therefore a potential for the

healing process to take effect. I used magnets for my liver condition and

can't find any reason not to do so other than cost.

Dale

Dale

[Guest guest]

Thanks catmagnet, sounds pretty good. Do a Hulga cleanse too.

You'll feel great.

Barry.

> hi...iam using the Sota Instruments magnetic pulser...jammed up

against my

> lower spine for one week at nite and it is Definitely

Helping...with the

> pain (infection) and to dissolve calcification. probably calcium

(infection)

> deposit/gall/kidney stone formation/arthritis..serious...had it for

10+

> years. nine months into the /Beck protocols...slow but sure,

making

> permanent healing progress.

>

> i felt soooo much better the first few days of magnetic

pulsing...got alot

> of work done. today i realized i am getting normal again....that the

> calcification is going away! this would be the magnetic pulser

effect. same

> energy thing (but not removing calcification) happened when i got

the guts

> to do the Bob Beck blood electrification with the Sota Instruments

Silver

> Pulser during Christmas. the zapper, colloidal silver, ozone water,

and

> /Beck protocols...eliminations changes, am convinced, saved

my life

> this Summer..the first six months healing were rough, as its been a

long

> time happening.

>

> (for some reason, i havent made it thru an entire kidney cleanse;

have

> ingredients for 5 GB flushes, but have not done it yet. it is alot

of work

> to learn and implement all these protocols by onesself ...imo

doctors dont

> know what they are doing and their methods would kill me! in 1992 3

mds did

> lower back fusion, when nothing was wrong with my back but horrible

> crippling pain ...Hulda was right: 95% of back pain relates

to stones.

> at times i see the light---all pain (infection) and blockage

disapears.

> working on the cause.) Thrilled to be getting completely well...it

is

> Great!

>

> (read the photon sound beam technology is laser....lol...we could

have fun

> with that)

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dale,

What were the results of using the magnets for your liver condition?

Barry.

> I'll just tell you a bit about magnets, and that's simply that a

lot of

> testing has been done to show that they do in fact work. The reason

they

> work is because of what is known as the Hall effect. This is an

electrical

> situation where something will heat up because of the changing

polarities of

> magnetic fields. In the case of magnets they would need to be a

multiple of

> North and South in an area to accomplish this with the blood supply

as it

> passes from one point to another. Some manufacturer have multiple

rings of

> magnets so that the blood supply cutting across a path will be

influenced by

> the negative and positive polarities, others have small squares of

north and

> south bundled together.

>

> I could also get into explaining why it is that the national

electrical code

> requires a wire from each phase of a transformer to be in each

conduit of a

> multi conduit system. It is because of the vary reason of the Hall

effect

> that this requirement is in the code. If each phase of a system was

in one

> individual conduit there is a tremendous heat build up at the

junction of an

> electrical box. It really is quite an amazing phenomena.

>

> As for the magnets shrinking stones I would find that is possible if

> considered under the factor of an included diet. I don't see that

the Hall

> effect can work other than to allow a greater blood flow to occur

in the

> area of the liver and the gallbladder. This in turn would allow for

a

> greater exchange of oxygen to the cells and therefore a potential

for the

> healing process to take effect. I used magnets for my liver

condition and

> can't find any reason not to do so other than cost.

>

> Dale

>

> Dale

[Guest guest]

Hi nne,

I know you weren't advising me to buy a blanket, I was just telling

you I didn't want to go that far. I think I would try just placing

two strong magnets in the best position for gallbladder and see what

results happen. I would have to go into the clinic that my friend

went to for his wrist cyst and talk to the doc first and see if it is

even possible for gb stone shrinking, etc.

Thanks for your help.

Barry.

> In a message dated 5/2/02 23:38:07 GMT Standard Time,

barry91162@y...

> writes:

>

> I was not advising you to buy the mattress/duvet/pillow, I was

simply

> illustrating my own personal knowledge of magnet therapy (maybe of

a

> different sort to that you have heard of but still magnet

therapy). I don't

> think it is the placebo effect, I think it is the same as with

supplements or

> drugs, what works for you will not necessarily work for me.

Perhaps you will

> have to try it for yourself to find out and then you can report

your personal

> findings to the group so that they can decide if they want to try

it.

>

> nne

>

> > I don't want to purchase a 'blanket' but was wondering if placing

> > magnets on the gb

>

>

>

>