Re: My doc appt's today...

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In a message dated 8/29/2006 2:37:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, glory2glory1401@... writes:

At least you have a doctor who understands your issues a little bit and is trying to help you, but that gastric bypass sounds like a nightmare for you....I would NEVER get anything with silicone in it. What is she thinking????

Well, she wants me to get the full Gastric Bypass -which doesn't include Silicone... but it's the one that has the dreaded "dumping syndrome." The only ones that don't have that dumping syndrome are the LapBands with the Silicone banding... but no one here does those anyway (not that I'd get one). I told her they use a silicone band for that, and so she agreed that one isn't an option and wants me to go the full route of a "Gastric Bypass" where they surgically separate the stomach.

I'm actually glad to have pointed that out to her, because she will remember that for her next silicone sensitive patient who may want Lap Banding.

Trust me -I'd never put another piece of silicone in my body again! She even told me she thinks I may want to start listing "silicone" in my allergies. That was when she was telling me that maybe someday all docs will listen and to just keep trying and pushing this!

Brig

PS: Thanks for all the kind words! Please remember my trip in prayer!

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Thanks for all the kind words and information, ya'll!!!

Hugs and prayers,

Brigite

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Sorry to hear about all your struggles today, my dear Brigite. I think doing coffee enemas may help your gallbladder problem. I think I read that when I researched them. Patty, may be able to help with that idea. KissofSadness@... wrote: Forgive me, ya'll, but I have to vent about my experiences today. (I'm sorry this is so long, but there's a lot to say.) First, I saw my PCP this morning. As always, she was very kind, wonderful, and understanding. She was happy for me that I'm moving towards explant, and told me to hang in there about how the medical field treats implant issues. She pointed out that ten years ago most medical professionals still didn't believe in Fibromyalgia -but now they do, so hopefully "someday"... She is sending me for pulmonary tests, chest xrays, and has some concerns about chest pains I've had as well as possible sleep apnea. Her office will call me with appointmnents. She is sending me to a surgeon to probably have my gallbladder removed. She's always felt it was an issue, though ultrasounds never show anything. She said another of her patients had the nausea issues like me with bloating and abdominal pain, and that it turned out the lining of her gallbladder was infected. She said this doctor she's sending

me to will have me do a dye test (which scares me), and if it shows infection they take you straight in for surgery because it's considered an emergency (which scares me even more). She also says he WILL want me scoped. BUT, she told me to tell him I want put all the way under for it. No conscious sedation... so maybe he will. She's sending me to an ob/gyn that is now doing a surgical procedure to make periods lighter. (I wanted a partial hysterectomy to no longer have periods, since I can't take birth control pills to regulate them.) I've heard of this procedure for years, but no one around here was doing it. I guess someone finally jumped into the 2000's, so that's a plus (although I'm also scared about it). I want a tubal ligation, she has always refused -still refuses. I love her, but it upsets me that I'm 31 yrs old and can't make the decision about whether or not I have kids. Her and her hubby

are both in practice together (for women only--he's an OB/GYN), and they see a lot of women who have regreted sterilization, I guess, so I see her point.......... although I'm not one of those women! lol She referred me to one of our only 2 alternative med specialists. (I've already seen the other.) She said he can do Candida testing as well as the other bacterial issues I asked her about. She also wants me to have a complete work up for Lupus and named a bunch of tests I've heard associated with autoimmune problems. (I've had a positive ANA for years, so we'll see what this brings.) She definitely wants me to have a gastric bypass after I get all this taken care of. She wants me to go to the seminars and get that part out of the way, and get on the diet for it so that is in effect. I told her I'll look into it, but it terrifies me. "Dumping Syndrome" sounds miserable, and it's with any gastric bypass. "Lap

Banding" doesn't cause it, but 1. the band is SILICONE filled with saline, and 2. No one here does it! My husband says "no" about it, and I'm sure a copay would be in the thousands anyway -so I think it's safe to say that's out. I gave her info on how to tell her patients how to find our support group and a couple of sites to keep (Dr. Kolb's site) in case she has other patients with our issues so that she can refer them to this forum. She appreciated it. It took me 9 yrs of doing my own research to find you gals, so hopefully her next patient won't have to go through all that and will know what's wrong sooner. (She's had one other, I think, that she's mentioned before.) So, that was that appointment................then came the neurologist. Things have certainly changed with doctors in the past several years. It used to be they shoved drugs in your face,

and now they think all you're after are drugs. I told him about my upcoming trip, and about my concerns with how severe my migraines get from motion sickness and that I vomitted for 4 hours all the way back the last time I had a short trip. I told him about my enlarged pupil, as well as which 2 opthamologists had noted it, and how the retinal damage shows up on pictures of inside of my eyes. I know he believed me, because he put me on meds for it ---BUT he wouldn't prescribe anything for pain for the trip. He told me to take OTC Dramamine and Aleve! I'm so scared... that trip was only 4 hours -this is 7. It has me pondering whether or not to even attempt going. Right now, I take Fioricet for migraines, which is habit forming, and it doesn't even take away my migraines -it only takes the edge off. It's prescribed by another doctor, and he frowned upon it. I had a stupid moment and when he asked if I

take it every day, I said "Yes." I don't know what I was thinking when he asked me that...I think I thought he was going to ask if I have migraines every day -and my mind was ready with "YES." By the time I caught myself, had I corrected my mistake he'd have thought I was just saying that. But the truth is, I've gone through less than 60 pills in 8 months. So, I think he thought I was just after drugs........ but in my mind, I'm thinking there's no reason he couldn't have prescribed a '2 day' supply of something to knock me out 7 hours each way. He prescribed Inderal (a blood pressure lowering medication) to help prevent my daily migraines. I've been on it before and was lethargic, but it worked... so he is trying 20 mg with me this time instead of 80mg. (He said most people take 160mg -that's how drug sensitive I am, and it sucks.) There's no chance of it preventing the motion migraines, though, because I was on this when I went

on the 4 hour trip and it was 4 times this dose and didn't prevent it. He put me on Topamax for eye pain, migraines, as a duiretic (for cerebral spinal fluid -instead of Diamox), and for 'Essential Tremor" that I think I've inherited from my Dad. These 2 meds are going to be $85/month. While I know I need them and they will help these neuro issues, that's a lot so I don't know how that will pan out. He gave me a 6 week supply of the Topamax, but I'm not sure how I'll get it after that. There was nothing generic I could take. Plus, with the pupil dilation issues it rules out most of the migraine drugs, because some may worsen it. I'm just hoping these issues will improve after explant and I won't have it to worry about!!! I'm just so scared... Scared of more surgeries, scared of going under anesthesia so many times, and scared about my trip. I'm seriously unsure about it

now. My hubby's suggestion is to drive 4 hours per day for 2 days each way. My appointment is on a Friday, and we would leave Wednesday and drive half way, then finish the drive Thursday and be there, then I'd have had overnight to get over any sickness by my appointment Friday afternoon. Then stay in Norfolk Friday, leave Saturday and drive half way, then the last half Sunday. But I hate making him work so much to make up for the financial loss of time off and motel fees for so many nights over a 7 hour trip... though in the long run, if it leads me to explant and wellness... I have to remind myself it will pay off later. So anyway, I just wanted to share how these appointments went... and vent. I'm sorry... You gals are about all I have! I'm a mess over this. Thanks for reading. Brigite PS: Sorry so long.

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>

>

> Forgive me, ya'll, but I have to vent about my experiences today.

(I'm sorry

> this is so long, but there's a lot to say.)

>

> First, I saw my PCP this morning. As always, she was very kind,

wonderful,

> and understanding. She was happy for me that I'm moving towards

explant, and

> told me to hang in there about how the medical field treats

implant issues.

> She pointed out that ten years ago most medical professionals

still didn't

> believe in Fibromyalgia -but now they do, so hopefully " someday " ...

>

> She is sending me for pulmonary tests, chest xrays, and has some

concerns

> about chest pains I've had as well as possible sleep apnea. Her

office will call

> me with appointmnents.

>

> She is sending me to a surgeon to probably have my gallbladder

removed.

> She's always felt it was an issue, though ultrasounds never show

anything. She

> said another of her patients had the nausea issues like me with

bloating and

> abdominal pain, and that it turned out the lining of her

gallbladder was

> infected. She said this doctor she's sending me to will have me do

a dye test

> (which scares me), and if it shows infection they take you straight

in for surgery

> because it's considered an emergency (which scares me even more).

She also

> says he WILL want me scoped. BUT, she told me to tell him I want

put all

> the way under for it. No conscious sedation... so maybe he will.

>

> She's sending me to an ob/gyn that is now doing a surgical

procedure to make

> periods lighter. (I wanted a partial hysterectomy to no longer

have periods,

> since I can't take birth control pills to regulate them.) I've

heard of this

> procedure for years, but no one around here was doing it. I guess

someone

> finally jumped into the 2000's, so that's a plus (although I'm also

scared about

> it).

>

> I want a tubal ligation, she has always refused -still refuses. I

love her,

> but it upsets me that I'm 31 yrs old and can't make the decision

about whether

> or not I have kids. Her and her hubby are both in practice

together (for

> women only--he's an OB/GYN), and they see a lot of women who have

regreted

> sterilization, I guess, so I see her point.......... although I'm

not one of

> those women! lol

>

> She referred me to one of our only 2 alternative med specialists.

(I've

> already seen the other.) She said he can do Candida testing as well

as the other

> bacterial issues I asked her about. She also wants me to have a

complete work

> up for Lupus and named a bunch of tests I've heard associated with

autoimmune

> problems. (I've had a positive ANA for years, so we'll see what

this

> brings.)

>

> She definitely wants me to have a gastric bypass after I get all

this taken

> care of. She wants me to go to the seminars and get that part out

of the way,

> and get on the diet for it so that is in effect. I told her I'll

look into

> it, but it terrifies me. " Dumping Syndrome " sounds miserable, and

it's with any

> gastric bypass. " Lap Banding " doesn't cause it, but 1. the band is

SILICONE

> filled with saline, and 2. No one here does it! My husband

says " no " about

> it, and I'm sure a copay would be in the thousands anyway -so I

think it's safe

> to say that's out.

>

> I gave her info on how to tell her patients how to find our

support group

> and a couple of sites to keep (Dr. Kolb's site) in case she has

other patients

> with our issues so that she can refer them to this forum. She

appreciated it.

> It took me 9 yrs of doing my own research to find you gals, so

hopefully her

> next patient won't have to go through all that and will know

what's wrong

> sooner. (She's had one other, I think, that she's mentioned

before.)

>

> So, that was that appointment................then came the

neurologist.

>

> Things have certainly changed with doctors in the past several

years. It

> used to be they shoved drugs in your face, and now they think all

you're after

> are drugs.

>

> I told him about my upcoming trip, and about my concerns with how

severe my

> migraines get from motion sickness and that I vomitted for 4 hours

all the way

> back the last time I had a short trip. I told him about my

enlarged pupil,

> as well as which 2 opthamologists had noted it, and how the retinal

damage

> shows up on pictures of inside of my eyes. I know he believed me,

because he put

> me on meds for it ---BUT he wouldn't prescribe anything for pain

for the

> trip. He told me to take OTC Dramamine and Aleve! I'm so scared...

that trip was

> only 4 hours -this is 7. It has me pondering whether or not to

even attempt

> going.

>

> Right now, I take Fioricet for migraines, which is habit forming,

and it

> doesn't even take away my migraines -it only takes the edge off.

It's prescribed

> by another doctor, and he frowned upon it. I had a stupid moment

and when he

> asked if I take it every day, I said " Yes. " I don't know what I was

thinking

> when he asked me that...I think I thought he was going to ask if I

have

> migraines every day -and my mind was ready with " YES. " By the time

I caught

> myself, had I corrected my mistake he'd have thought I was just

saying that. But

> the truth is, I've gone through less than 60 pills in 8 months.

So, I think he

> thought I was just after drugs........ but in my mind, I'm

thinking there's

> no reason he couldn't have prescribed a '2 day' supply of

something to knock

> me out 7 hours each way.

>

> He prescribed Inderal (a blood pressure lowering medication) to

help prevent

> my daily migraines. I've been on it before and was lethargic, but

it

> worked... so he is trying 20 mg with me this time instead of 80mg.

(He said most

> people take 160mg -that's how drug sensitive I am, and it sucks.)

There's no

> chance of it preventing the motion migraines, though, because I was

on this when

> I went on the 4 hour trip and it was 4 times this dose and didn't

prevent it.

>

> He put me on Topamax for eye pain, migraines, as a duiretic (for

cerebral

> spinal fluid -instead of Diamox), and for 'Essential Tremor " that I

think I've

> inherited from my Dad.

>

> These 2 meds are going to be $85/month. While I know I need them

and they

> will help these neuro issues, that's a lot so I don't know how that

will pan

> out. He gave me a 6 week supply of the Topamax, but I'm not sure

how I'll get it

> after that. There was nothing generic I could take. Plus, with the

pupil

> dilation issues it rules out most of the migraine drugs, because

some may

> worsen it. I'm just hoping these issues will improve after explant

and I won't

> have it to worry about!!!

>

> I'm just so scared... Scared of more surgeries, scared of going

under

> anesthesia so many times, and scared about my trip. I'm seriously

unsure about it

> now. My hubby's suggestion is to drive 4 hours per day for 2 days

each way. My

> appointment is on a Friday, and we would leave Wednesday and drive

half way,

> then finish the drive Thursday and be there, then I'd have had

overnight to

> get over any sickness by my appointment Friday afternoon. Then stay

in

> Norfolk Friday, leave Saturday and drive half way, then the last

half Sunday. But I

> hate making him work so much to make up for the financial loss of

time off

> and motel fees for so many nights over a 7 hour trip... though in

the long

> run, if it leads me to explant and wellness... I have to remind

myself it will

> pay off later.

>

> So anyway, I just wanted to share how these appointments went...

and vent.

> I'm sorry... You gals are about all I have! I'm a mess over

this. Thanks for

> reading.

>

> Brigite

> PS: Sorry so long.

>Brigite,

Your hubby sounds like a caring guy, I think the trip sounds like a

longer adventure with his suggestion, That way you wont be all sick

at the consult, Try to relax about that. Maybe they can give you

something for the anxiety, that might make you more nauseaous, I took

ativan for awhile and it was very calming when ever I started getting

anxious, I stopped taking it months ago I haven't had any anxiety of

course I had to give up the coffee, I think that contributed,

Terri P

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Brigite . . . Would your PCP give you a script for something to sleep on your trip to the ps? It sounds like you're getting an excellent workup . . . That's good. However, please checkout liver/gall bladder flushes before submitting to surgery. . . check the ones on www.curezone.com . . . I've done the epsom salt/graperfruit/olive oil flush a number of times . . . . Other than having to stay close to the bathroom for half a day, it's not bad at all. I've been astounded at the number of stones I've passed. I'm with you on the Lap band . . . If everyone who goes for that surgery would be as careful with their diet BEFORE surgery as they must be after it, they wouldn't need the surgery in the first place. I've seen too many people who have had the surgery who manage to regain the weight - after losing a bunch.

Not good! . .. not to mention the silicone scenario. Rogene

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Brigite,

Does Benadryl make you sleepy? If so, you could take some prior to your

trip. Tylenol PM is simply Benadryl and Acetaminophen.

I had a gallbladder attack a few years ago and it was no fun at all. I

refused to have my gallbladder taken out at the time because they couldn't

prove that it was diseased. One thing my ND said to me was that if the

gallbladder is diseased, it does need to come out. If it isn't, diet and

supplementation can often times help. I have kept my gallbladder for over

three years since my attack with a healthy diet, liver supplementation and

high levels of antioxidants -- this was a protocol from Europe that I found

online.

Kenda

> Brigite . . .

>

> Would your PCP give you a script for something to sleep on your trip to the

> ps?

>

> It sounds like you're getting an excellent workup . . . That's good.

>

> However, please checkout liver/gall bladder flushes before submitting to

> surgery. . . check the ones on www.curezone.com . . . I've done the epsom

> salt/graperfruit/olive oil flush a number of times . . . . Other than having

> to stay close to the bathroom for half a day, it's not bad at all. I've been

> astounded at the number of stones I've passed.

>

> I'm with you on the Lap band . . . If everyone who goes for that surgery

> would be as careful with their diet BEFORE surgery as they must be after it,

> they wouldn't need the surgery in the first place. I've seen too many people

> who have had the surgery who manage to regain the weight - after losing a

> bunch. Not good! . .. not to mention the silicone scenario.

>

> Rogene

>

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Brigite, There are provisions to get meds for little or nothing if you can't afford them. . . Do some online searching . . . As I understand it, you contact the manufacturer of each medication you need. They will send you forms to fill out to acertain your income status, along with instructions for getting your scripts filled. I don't think you will have any difficulty qualifying. This is one way the drug companies keep the feds off their back . . . otherwise the feds might put some price regulations in place. Especially with Medicare coverage. Rogene

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Rogene,

Thanks so much for sharing that about the coworker who died after a Gastric Bypass. That's definitely a fear of mine. I am 5'4", and for the past 6 years or so, my weight has steadily been at 210-220. I wear a size 20. I know that's big, but I'm not sure it's as horrible as what people go through with the surgery. I mean, if I weighed any more than this --- I'd be gung ho, but I barely meet the criteria for coverage, so it kind of indicates to me that I should think hard about it.

And all of us have to think about the fact that -we are prone to rare and semi-rare complications to surgery, chemicals, medications, health problems, etc. We fall into diseases that have .5%-2% chances of happening... So I just keep thinking "What makes me think I wouldn't be in the 1-2% of complications from Gastric Bypass?" (Or what ever it is.) So, I'm seriously putting thought into this. I have a long time to think it over, since everything else is priority.

Again --- thanks. That helps! I always take heed to the wisdom of the gals on here...it doesn't fall on deaf ears (or blind eyes).

Brigite

PS: I'm researching the makers of the rx's I need to check for help with getting meds. Thanks for that suggestion!

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Brigite, The wife of one of my fellow workers had the full bypass . . . She had a hard time maintaining her nutritional balance . . . One morning she stood up to walk across the room, took a few steps and dropped dead! . . . That was only one year after she had the bypass. This surgery is very, very serious . . . not from just the cutting, but from the way you MUST eat afterwards. Hopefully you'll be able to lose weight once those toxic bags are out so you won't need the surgery. Rogene

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Geeze Brigite . . . You're not THAT heavy at all! . . . I thought you must weigh 300 pounds, or more (the way you talk)! . . . There's a lot bigger women than you! I hope you forget about gastric bypass altogether . . . I know you can lose that much weight on your own when you start feeling better. Hugs and prayers, Rogene

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Yaahhaa Brig!KissofSadness@... wrote: Wow - God answers prayers FAST sometimes! I just got some SUPER news. Earlier, I had mentioned being worried about affording these meds my neuro prescribed. As it turns out, he prescribed "Inderal" and not "Inderal LA" -and there IS a generic for the plain Inderal. (I called the pharmacy to

double check.) So, I should have a $20 copay instead of $50! My Topamax will still be high ($35), but I'm going to call the drug co about it and work on it -but still, I lucked out here! Inderal is the more important one. Brig (Thanks for the kind words and prayers, ya'll!)

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Wonderful Brigite! . . . . One day at a time, one step at a time - You're going to get there! . . . BTW, how have you been feeling lately? . . . Your posts show so much energy and spirit! I hope you're feeling as much better as you sound! Hugs and prayers, Rogene KissofSadness@... wrote: Wow - God answers prayers

FAST sometimes! I just got some SUPER news. Earlier, I had mentioned being worried about affording these meds my neuro prescribed. As it turns out, he prescribed "Inderal" and not "Inderal LA" -and there IS a generic for the plain Inderal. (I called the pharmacy to double check.) So, I should have a $20 copay instead of $50! My Topamax will still be high ($35), but I'm going to call the drug co about it and work on it -but still, I lucked out here! Inderal is the more important one. Brig (Thanks for the kind words and prayers, ya'll!)

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In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:28:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

BTW, how have you been feeling lately? . . . Your posts show so much energy and spirit! I hope you're feeling as much better as you sound!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

Rogene,

Thanks for asking... it's so nice to know people care. There's been a lot of negativity surrounding my life lately (from my family -the usual culprits), but fortunately I have the talent to 'ignore' drama, or even cut it away when it gets to be too much to carry. We all know what impact stress has on our health, so I try to know my limits. My biggest battle now, and always, is for energy -fighting fatigue. I am counting the days until my consult for explanting with Schnarrs.

It's very important I have my finances ready by November-January, because I've gotten pricing for doing surgery in a surgical facility instead of in office, and that's the cheapest time to do it. Having said that, my husband knows this and keeps telling me that we will be ready -- yet he's done nothing other than "word of mouth" to try to sell his SUV. (All he has to do is clean it up and put it out on the main road with a sign on it.) His excuse is that he doesn't have time, yet he can make time for so many other things of far less importance. He is a procrastinator by nature, but I don't think he understands how serious this situation is. He thinks I'm being more dramatic about it since I've found this board. Every day, I'm learning something new and I try to make him understand the severity of this surgery. He verbally says he understands and agrees, but his actions show otherwise. Time will tell, I suppose. I wish I had a gung ho doctor that I could drag him to who would say, "Look, your wife needs these out of her body (and why)." It's like he "sort of" knows, but there's no fire under his rear about it.

I just keep hoping that he wouldn't go through with the trip to Norfolk (both time and expenses) if he didn't "know" how important it is that I do this.

So, ya'll just keep me in prayer, as I do the same for you.

Now, dearest Rogene, how are YOU??? I receive posts via email, and so often notice the time you and Patty are spending replying to each. It always touches me -I can't say enough what angels so many of you are.

Hugs, prayers, and big smiles!!!

Brigite

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In a message dated 8/30/2006 3:56:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, wellnessnow@... writes:

Hi Ladies! I just wanted to interject here re: Tylenol. In the past, the company used to make it well-known that extensive use of Tylenol can cause low blook platelets. Well, my sister used it for TMJ problems, on and off for years. When she died, it was because she went into the hospital dizzy and one eye blurry -- found out she had very low blood platelet count (4,000). They treated her and they went up to 146,000. Then one day she was receiving a plasma treatment, and she had a massive heart attack. Then multiple stroking. She never woke up. I saw her CT Brain Scan and all her major body functions were not working anymore and wouldn't. She had one more massive heart attack at 3 a.m. and they didn't try to revive her...didn't even call my Mom and me to see if we wanted her on life support for a day or two. They claimed to be in the dark about why her platelets went low in the first place. I went online after she passed away and the fourth reason for low platelets was listed as extended use of Tylenol. I know some children who live on it.....my grandchildren also had taken quite a bit. My daughter-in-law has now switched to Motrin. Color therapy lamps work great for fever. Blue is used - 2 hrs. on and 1 hr off all night long and fever is gone, in most cases. It's very uninvasive.Wow, I really got chatting there........hope this helps someone.Love,

I used Anaprox DS as an anti-inflammatory and for mild pain, but my doc pulled me off it this year after 8 yrs of use. Heart disease runs in my family, so she became concerned. Now, I use over the counter Aleve, though, which I think is about the same thing just weaker. I've never used Tylenol. I used to buy Motrin, but it makes my hubby so sick that I stick with Aleve.

Really, over the counter pain relievers are like candy to me. I have to take large amounts of them for results...but if you ask your doc outright for anything stronger, they think you're just after drugs these days! My doc is good about giving me something for pain, but in very small amounts, so I have to use them sparingly and far and few between -as a last resort.

Thoughts of you encompass my mindon the wings of butterflies frozen in time...BRIGITE

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Hi Ladies! I just wanted to interject here re: Tylenol. In the

past, the company used to make it well-known that extensive use of

Tylenol can cause low blook platelets. Well, my sister used it for

TMJ problems, on and off for years. When she died, it was because

she went into the hospital dizzy and one eye blurry -- found out she

had very low blood platelet count (4,000). They treated her and

they went up to 146,000. Then one day she was receiving a plasma

treatment, and she had a massive heart attack. Then multiple

stroking. She never woke up. I saw her CT Brain Scan and all her

major body functions were not working anymore and wouldn't. She had

one more massive heart attack at 3 a.m. and they didn't try to

revive her...didn't even call my Mom and me to see if we wanted her

on life support for a day or two. They claimed to be in the dark

about why her platelets went low in the first place. I went online

after she passed away and the fourth reason for low platelets was

listed as extended use of Tylenol. I know some children who live on

it.....my grandchildren also had taken quite a bit. My daughter-in-

law has now switched to Motrin. Color therapy lamps work great for

fever. Blue is used - 2 hrs. on and 1 hr off all night long and

fever is gone, in most cases. It's very uninvasive.

Wow, I really got chatting there........hope this helps someone.

Love,

Sunny

<skaggs@...> wrote:

>

> Brigite,

>

> Does Benadryl make you sleepy? If so, you could take some prior

to your

> trip. Tylenol PM is simply Benadryl and Acetaminophen.

>

> I had a gallbladder attack a few years ago and it was no fun at

all. I

> refused to have my gallbladder taken out at the time because they

couldn't

> prove that it was diseased. One thing my ND said to me was that if

the

> gallbladder is diseased, it does need to come out. If it isn't,

diet and

> supplementation can often times help. I have kept my gallbladder

for over

> three years since my attack with a healthy diet, liver

supplementation and

> high levels of antioxidants -- this was a protocol from Europe

that I found

> online.

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Brigite . . .

> >

> > Would your PCP give you a script for something to sleep on

your trip to the

> > ps?

> >

> > It sounds like you're getting an excellent workup . . . That's

good.

> >

> > However, please checkout liver/gall bladder flushes before

submitting to

> > surgery. . . check the ones on www.curezone.com . . . I've done

the epsom

> > salt/graperfruit/olive oil flush a number of times . . . . Other

than having

> > to stay close to the bathroom for half a day, it's not bad at

all. I've been

> > astounded at the number of stones I've passed.

> >

> > I'm with you on the Lap band . . . If everyone who goes for

that surgery

> > would be as careful with their diet BEFORE surgery as they must

be after it,

> > they wouldn't need the surgery in the first place. I've seen too

many people

> > who have had the surgery who manage to regain the weight - after

losing a

> > bunch. Not good! . .. not to mention the silicone scenario.

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

[Guest guest]

That much over the counter pain killers is very bad for your

body. You might check into that.

Lynda

At 02:22 PM 8/30/2006, you wrote:

>In a message dated 8/30/2006 3:56:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>wellnessnow@... writes:

>Hi Ladies! I just wanted to interject here re: Tylenol. In the

>past, the company used to make it well-known that extensive use of

>Tylenol can cause low blook platelets. Well, my sister used it for

>TMJ problems, on and off for years. When she died, it was because

>she went into the hospital dizzy and one eye blurry -- found out she

>had very low blood platelet count (4,000). They treated her and

>they went up to 146,000. Then one day she was receiving a plasma

>treatment, and she had a massive heart attack. Then multiple

>stroking. She never woke up. I saw her CT Brain Scan and all her

>major body functions were not working anymore and wouldn't. She had

>one more massive heart attack at 3 a.m. and they didn't try to

>revive her...didn't even call my Mom and me to see if we wanted her

>on life support for a day or two. They claimed to be in the dark

>about why her platelets went low in the first place. I went online

>after she passed away and the fourth reason for low platelets was

>listed as extended use of Tylenol. I know some children who live on

>it.....my grandchildren also had taken quite a bit. My daughter-in-

>law has now switched to Motrin. Color therapy lamps work great for

>fever. Blue is used - 2 hrs. on and 1 hr off all night long and

>fever is gone, in most cases. It's very uninvasive.

>

>Wow, I really got chatting there........hope this helps someone.

>

>Love,

>

>I used Anaprox DS as an anti-inflammatory and for mild pain, but my

>doc pulled me off it this year after 8 yrs of use. Heart disease

>runs in my family, so she became concerned. Now, I use over the

>counter Aleve, though, which I think is about the same thing just

>weaker. I've never used Tylenol. I used to buy Motrin, but it makes

>my hubby so sick that I stick with Aleve.

>

>Really, over the counter pain relievers are like candy to me. I have

>to take large amounts of them for results...but if you ask your doc

>outright for anything stronger, they think you're just after drugs

>these days! My doc is good about giving me something for pain, but

>in very small amounts, so I have to use them sparingly and far and

>few between -as a last resort.

>

>

>

>

>

>Thoughts of you encompass my mind

>on the wings of butterflies frozen in time...

>[]

>

>BRIGITE

>

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Thank God it was nothing in need of surgery!

Always praying for you (and the gals here),

Brigite

[Guest guest]

Thanks Brigite, I'm doing fine . . . I did have a big scare this week . . . actually it had been building for a couple months . . . but when I finally saw my doctor last week, he said that a knot on the calf of my leg must come out! . . . . I was fine until then, but the waiting period until I saw the surgeon got worse every day. . . By Sunday, I had to take something for anxiety . . . I was ready to fall apart. . . But prayers were answered. When I saw the surgeon Monday, he said it wasn't anything to be concerned about. Wheeeeew! I had a small breast cancer nodule removed in January. . . I don't need any more of THAT! I've got a very busy time coming up and don't want any complications! . . . I won't be able to post much . . . but know that I'm OK! Hugs, Rogene

[Guest guest]

Wow Rogene....glad that it was nothing seriuos! What do the doctors say is causing these lumps?Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Thanks Brigite, I'm doing fine . . . I did have a big scare this week . . . actually it had been building for a couple months . . . but when I finally saw my doctor last week, he said that a knot on the calf of my leg must come out! . . . . I was fine until then, but the waiting period until I saw the surgeon got worse every day. . . By Sunday,

I had to take something for anxiety . . . I was ready to fall apart. . . But prayers were answered. When I saw the surgeon Monday, he said it wasn't anything to be concerned about. Wheeeeew! I had a small breast cancer nodule removed in January. . . I don't need any more of THAT! I've got a very busy time coming up and don't want any complications! . . . I won't be able to post much . . . but know that I'm OK! Hugs, Rogene

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[Guest guest]

It's likely a varicose vein that has a clot in it . . . surface, not deep vein . . . I'll verify this with my oncologist at my next visit just to be sure. Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene, I'm so glad you're ok. My prayers are with you. What busy

time is coming up for you???

Love,

Sunny xo

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> Thanks Brigite,

>

> I'm doing fine . . . I did have a big scare this week . . .

actually it had been building for a couple months . . . but when I

finally saw my doctor last week, he said that a knot on the calf of

my leg must come out! . . . . I was fine until then, but the waiting

period until I saw the surgeon got worse every day. . . By Sunday, I

had to take something for anxiety . . . I was ready to fall

apart. . . But prayers were answered. When I saw the surgeon Monday,

he said it wasn't anything to be concerned about. Wheeeeew!

>

> I had a small breast cancer nodule removed in January. . . I

don't need any more of THAT!

>

> I've got a very busy time coming up and don't want any

complications! . . . I won't be able to post much . . . but know

that I'm OK!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>