I need Advice

[Guest guest]

Midori,

I would start her in regular kindergarten and have speech services provided

through the school system. They can pull her out of the regular classroom

setting and provide speech therapy as determined that it's needed plus if she

is the highest functioning child in her EI program there's really no one

there to be a model for her. I think she would learn more and possibly pick

up on more communication skills if she was in a regular classroom. There's

been lots of research on this and it has been proven.

[Guest guest]

I have twins that are 6 years old. One of them, , has severe

apraxia. My girls just turned 6 in Novemeber. They were eligible

for kindegarten last year, but we waited until this year.

I have both girls in the same regular kindegarten class. is

now talking, but just not age appropriate. She is very quiet in

class. She does have great listening skills. She can follow

directions well. Her math is age appropriate. She is having some

problems with the reading because of her speech delays. She can

write, but it is a little sloppy. She can draw, but it is a little

sloppy also. She gets pulled out for speech 3 times a week, OT once

a week, and she is pulled out for reading with the resource

specialist.

I like the regular kindegarten for because she can be with her

sister. The program she is in has lots of music and singing, and

really responds to that. They are learning how to spell color

words through little songs. can actually sing them slowly.

They are also using ZooPhonics which is a phonics program that has

hand cues (perfect for a kid with apraxia). sometimes forgets

the sounds, but she knows all of the hand cues.

The problem with the regular kindegarten class is that it is very

large. I think might get lost in the class if she wasn't an

identical twin. I think twins just stand out. We already had one

problem. was not originally being pulled out for reading.

The resource specialist was supposed to watch her and talk to the

teacher to determine how much pull out time she needed. This did

not happen, and at our conference (in November) the teacher told us

was falling behind. Now at least, is getting pulled out

for reading.

My advice is to look at special ed kindegartens to see if there is a

program for her. I did not do this because I really wanted my twins

to be in the same class for kindegarten. You might want to find a

school that has both regular and special ed. You can start in

regular ed and then move to special ed if there is a problem. If

your daughter is ready socially for kindegarten, then I problem

would put her in. Talk to her preschool teacher, speech therapist,

doctor, anyone that has lots of contact with her and get their

opinions. With my daughter, everyone agreed that regular

kindegarten was the correct placement.

Good luck!

Suzi

> My daughter is 5 years old. She says a handful of sounds. She

uses

> gestures and sign language to communicate. She is in a normal pre-

> school setting and is the highest functioning child in the Early

> Intervention program. She has been diagnosed with severe oral

> apraxia. She has been in speech service for the past 3 years.

Now

> the speech clinic says she has not made enough progress and she

needs

> to have more language based services. I need advice on where to

go

> from here. Do I insist on speech? Do I implement mostly sign

> language? My other problem is kindergarten. She is scheduled to

> start next Fall. Do I put her in normal kindergarten setting or

with

> the Early intervention, please keep in mind she is very smart and

up

> to par with everything but the talking? Thanks in advance. Midori

[Guest guest]

Midori, I would insist on speech, I would insist on an inclusion

setting. I pulled my son out of public school, who at that time was SPH

Apraxic ( Which means severe and profound speech impaired) because the

school district insisted that he was MR, and I was crazy. His scores

revealed moderate mental retardation. I put him in a Christian School

for children with learning differences. My son now scores in the

post-high school range and is now profoundly gifted. FIGHT LIKE

CRAZY!!! GOOD LUCK

[ ] I need advice

My daughter is 5 years old. She says a handful of sounds. She uses

gestures and sign language to communicate. She is in a normal pre-

school setting and is the highest functioning child in the Early

Intervention program. She has been diagnosed with severe oral

apraxia. She has been in speech service for the past 3 years. Now

the speech clinic says she has not made enough progress and she needs

to have more language based services. I need advice on where to go

from here. Do I insist on speech? Do I implement mostly sign

language? My other problem is kindergarten. She is scheduled to

start next Fall. Do I put her in normal kindergarten setting or with

the Early intervention, please keep in mind she is very smart and up

to par with everything but the talking? Thanks in advance. Midori

[Guest guest]

Hi Midori

My girl ( significant oral & verbal dyspraxic) did not need to sign so maybe my

opinion won't count for much but she started Reception ( UK equiv. to

kindergarten) last September ( aged 4.7 then) & has come on in leaps & bounds.

I was so doubtful/anxious/stressed about her starting that I had meetings with

the school over the summer -honestly I got myself in such a state over this.

They suggested she start as per normal & if we had problems I could stay & /or

keep her on half days for as long as I wanted or for as long as wasn't

stressed. Their feeling was that being with her (verbal) peers was going to be

more beneficial than not. They were so right.

In truth the teaching staff were fantastic in their approach....you could see

they were actively looking forward to having an oral & verbal dyspraxic child

joining them. And the reality has been just that ....with informal little chats

dotted here & there about this achievement or that success there......they love

her & their enthusiasm is a joy & reassurance to me.

If you can - meet up with the prospective kindergarten staff to discuss your

concerns - about this very fact that you are doubtful about her starting there.

I would say one thing though ...as she's top in her EI - then there's nothing

to push her forward if she's 'king of the castle'. You may find her slipping if

she stays in her existing environment just by becoming bored alone if nothing

else.

Good Luck to you

Love Gin

Re: [ ] I need advice

Midori,

I would start her in regular kindergarten and have speech services provided

through the school system. They can pull her out of the regular classroom

setting and provide speech therapy as determined that it's needed plus if she

is the highest functioning child in her EI program there's really no one

there to be a model for her. I think she would learn more and possibly pick

up on more communication skills if she was in a regular classroom. There's

been lots of research on this and it has been proven.

[Guest guest]

Midori,

I must agree with . I placed my daughter in Kindergarten (regular) this

year. She has made TREMENDOUS progress and seems like a typical five-year-old

finally! She's still hard to understand at times but her speech has improved so

much this year and I never saw this type of progress from any other placements.

Role models make the difference!

Tammy

Re: [ ] I need advice

Midori,

I would start her in regular kindergarten and have speech services provided

through the school system. They can pull her out of the regular classroom

setting and provide speech therapy as determined that it's needed plus if she

is the highest functioning child in her EI program there's really no one

there to be a model for her. I think she would learn more and possibly pick

up on more communication skills if she was in a regular classroom. There's

been lots of research on this and it has been proven.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/25/2003 1:37:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,

kellirz@... writes:

> Dh wondered if it would be better to disrupt his schedule for

> the next couple of weeks so that when school starts he will cling to

> the new structure of the school setting or maintain his current

> schedule only changing the school part? What do you think?

>

> I think preparing him for school is the most important part. Start with a

picture schedule, such as if he is going to do something different like see

that show it should have been on his schedule and you could have prepared him as

to how loud the show would be and also he would see it on his schedule. It

gets much easier as they get older just remember that.

[Guest guest]

Kelli wrote:

> Dh wondered if it would be better to disrupt his schedule for

> the next couple of weeks so that when school starts he will cling to

> the new structure of the school setting or maintain his current

> schedule only changing the school part? What do you think?

I think you could try to ease him onto the school schedule now -- in

terms of wake-up time, snack and nap if applicable, and bed time, so

he can get used to it before he goes. It seems unlikely to me that

dh's idea would work for most kids. It could backfire by using up too

many emotional resources before school even starts.

Anne

[Guest guest]

I'd keep the structure the same. Then when school starts you all will

have to adjust to the new changes. And your dh is right. School is

for the best. I cried buckets last year. I was not ready. I'm still

not ready to start up again this year. However he's made lots of

progress. Early intervention makes a huge difference. You'll be happy

w/ the results. Although I do not promise that sending him every day

will be easy. Have you thought of volunteering as home room mom? I

love being a part of my kids' school. Although I'm not real happy w/

their current school. Loong story. Also maybe it's good that he'll

start school after everyone else. By then things will be nice and

calm. a

[Guest guest]

What is the best probiotic to take ?

Sandy

I am feeling so very ill

Most likely it's because of the capsules that were left after my explant

My stomach is big and hard which is another factor to me being sort of crippled

This is not good and it's scaring me to death

Sandy~

I have not used any of this yet but I will after I have everything I need

Money is tight because I cannot work like I once did and with my son being

sick off and on I have to put him first even though I am so very ill

What I have so far...

#1. Dr Natural-Colonix

#2. Primary defense

#3. grapefuit seed extract

I need some advice,

Sandy

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure about grapefruit seed extract-- there's quite a bit of reseacrh that questions its use as an anti-microbial agent, claiming it has been contaminated with chemicals. It's kind of complicated but you can read a bit about it on Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract with links to scientific studies. A ntaurpath that I know says he does not recommend it, for these reasons. Bindi

Grapefruit seed extract (GSE), also known as citrus seed extract, is a liquid derived from the seeds, pulp, and white membranes of grapefruit. While there has been no scientific demonstration of efficacy, this extract has been alleged by some practitioners of alternative medicine to possess antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal properties. Indeed, it has been recommended by some nutritionists for the treatment of candidiasis, earache, throat infections, and diarrhea. Some natural food retailers claim this extract to be safe, natural, and effective. However, recent studies have identified synthetic preservatives in commercial grapefruit seed extracts. When no preservatives were present in some of the extracts tested in the laboratory, the natural extracts were found to have little or no natural antimicrobial attributes of their own. An early proponent was Dr. Harich (1919–1996). Some of the manufacturers of GSE have claimed that their extract has compounds nearly identical to benzethonium chloride but the 2001 study overviewed by chemist G. Takeoka and ran by fellow researchers have documented that commercial GSE preparations contain the synthetic compound benzethonium chloride that couldn't have been made from GSE.

Scientific research

Anecdotal claims for an antimicrobial effect are loosely supported by small abstract experiments which apparently show some antimicrobial activity in in vitro assays such as the agar diffusion test [1], [2], [3]. However, there is considerable scientific evidence that the anti-microbial activity associated with grapefruit seed extract is attributable to the contamination or adulteration of commercial GSE preparations with synthetic antimicrobials or preservatives. Independent studies have shown that commercial preparations contain the compound benzalkonium chloride, which is a synthetic antimicrobial commonly used in disinfectants and cleaning products, the related compound benzethonium chloride, the antibiotic triclosan, or the preservative methyl paraben [4], [5], [6]. Some samples were shown to contain up to 22% benzalkonium chloride by weight, despite the known allergenicity and toxicity of the compound at higher doses [7]. These chemicals were not present in grapefruit seed extracts prepared in the laboratory, and GSE preparations without the contaminants were found to possess no significant antimicrobial effect [8]. Self-made citrus seed extracts had no broad-spectrum capabilities as a preservative.

A study that examined the antiviral properties of GSE found that GSE had no efficacy as a disinfectant for feline calicivirus and feline parvovirus [9] Grapefruit seed extract has been advocated to be a powerful antimicrobial with proven activity against bacteria and fungi. However, independent studies have shown the efficacy of grapefruit seed extract as an antimicrobial is not demonstrated. Although citrus seed extract is claimed to be a highly effective plant-based preservative by some natural personal care manufacturers, studies scientifically indicate the universal antimicrobial benefits associated with GSE are merely from the presence of synthetic preservatives. Natural GSE has no antimicrobial properties.

I need Advice

What is the best probiotic to take ?

Sandy

I am feeling so very ill

Most likely it's because of the capsules that were left after my explant

My stomach is big and hard which is another factor to me being sort of crippled

This is not good and it's scaring me to death

Sandy~

I have not used any of this yet but I will after I have everything I need

Money is tight because I cannot work like I once did and with my son being

sick off and on I have to put him first even though I am so very ill

What I have so far...

#1. Dr Natural-Colonix

#2. Primary defense

#3. grapefuit seed extract

I need some advice,

Sandy

[Guest guest]

I think the best out there is Garden Of Life Primal Defense. PattySandy Verticelli <dusty.com@...> wrote: What is the best probiotic to take ? Sandy I am feeling so very ill Most likely it's because of the capsules that were left after my explant My stomach is big and hard which is another factor to me being sort of crippled This is not good and it's scaring me to death Sandy~ I have not used any of this yet but I will after I have everything I need Money is tight because I cannot work like I once did and with my son being sick off and on I have to put him first even though I am so very ill What I have so far... #1. Dr Natural-Colonix #2. Primary defense #3. grapefuit seed extract I need some advice, Sandy

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[Guest guest]

That's interesting...didn't know that. I will have to look up the info by brand, as I had heard that NutriBiotic was the best, and my bottle says it is from Certified Organically grown Grapefruit. Pattyfreebindi <bindi@...> wrote: I'm not sure about grapefruit seed extract-- there's quite a bit of reseacrh that questions its use as an anti-microbial agent, claiming it has been contaminated with chemicals. It's kind of complicated but you can

read a bit about it on Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapefruit_seed_extract with links to scientific studies. A ntaurpath that I know says he does not recommend it, for these reasons. Bindi Grapefruit seed extract (GSE), also known as citrus seed extract, is a liquid derived from the seeds, pulp, and white membranes of grapefruit. While there has been no scientific demonstration of efficacy, this extract has been alleged by some practitioners of alternative medicine to possess antibacterial, antiviral, and anti-fungal properties. Indeed, it has been recommended by some nutritionists for the treatment of candidiasis, earache, throat infections, and diarrhea. Some natural food retailers claim this extract to be safe, natural, and effective. However, recent studies have identified synthetic preservatives in commercial grapefruit seed extracts. When no preservatives

were present in some of the extracts tested in the laboratory, the natural extracts were found to have little or no natural antimicrobial attributes of their own. An early proponent was Dr. Harich (1919–1996). Some of the manufacturers of GSE have claimed that their extract has compounds nearly identical to benzethonium chloride but the 2001 study overviewed by chemist G. Takeoka and ran by fellow researchers have documented that commercial GSE preparations contain the synthetic compound benzethonium chloride that couldn't have been made from GSE. Scientific research Anecdotal claims for an antimicrobial effect are loosely supported by small abstract experiments which apparently show some antimicrobial activity in in vitro assays such as the agar diffusion test [1], [2], [3]. However, there is considerable scientific evidence that the anti-microbial activity associated with grapefruit seed extract is attributable to the contamination or adulteration of commercial GSE preparations with synthetic antimicrobials or preservatives. Independent studies have shown that commercial preparations contain the compound benzalkonium chloride, which is a synthetic antimicrobial commonly used in disinfectants and cleaning products, the related compound benzethonium chloride, the antibiotic triclosan, or the preservative methyl paraben [4], [5], [6]. Some samples were shown to contain up to 22% benzalkonium chloride by weight, despite the known allergenicity and toxicity of the compound at higher doses [7]. These chemicals were not present in grapefruit seed extracts prepared in the laboratory, and GSE preparations without the contaminants were found to possess no significant antimicrobial effect [8]. Self-made citrus seed extracts had no broad-spectrum capabilities as a preservative. A study that examined the antiviral properties of GSE found that GSE had no efficacy as a disinfectant for feline calicivirus and feline parvovirus [9] Grapefruit seed extract has been advocated to be a powerful antimicrobial with proven activity against bacteria and fungi. However, independent studies have shown the efficacy of grapefruit seed extract as an antimicrobial is not demonstrated. Although citrus seed extract is claimed to be a highly effective plant-based preservative by some natural personal care manufacturers, studies scientifically indicate the universal antimicrobial benefits associated with GSE are merely from the presence of synthetic preservatives. Natural GSE has no antimicrobial

properties. I need Advice What is the best probiotic to take

? Sandy I am feeling so very ill Most likely it's because of the capsules that were left after my explant My stomach is big and hard which is another factor to me being sort of crippled This is not good and it's scaring me to death Sandy~ I have not used any of this yet but I will after I have everything I need Money is tight because I cannot work like I once did and with my son being sick off and on I have to put him first even though I am so very ill What I have so far... #1. Dr Natural-Colonix #2. Primary defense #3. grapefuit seed extract I need some advice, Sandy

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