Re: first flush, never again

[Guest guest]

I have found that drinking the mixture in one go is the best way...but I

only use half a cup of olive oil and one large grapefruit along with the

Epsom salts and it works just fine. Maybe if you tried less olive oil. >>

______________

Doug, I agree with Dax & Dale, you used way too much olive oil. And Dax is

right, mix them together. I personally think it's rather tasty after having

the ES. I also don't drink it too quickly. I did that once and got a little

ill, but didn't never throw up.

Glad you had success, though!

Susie

[Guest guest]

It was.............way.............too much oil to try to use. Sorry you

were uncomfortable but it sure sound like you've cleared it all out in one

fell swoop.

Dale

Da_@...

----- Original Message -----

From: " Doug " <dshart@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:30 AM

Subject: first flush, never again

> After a month of reading this web site and that web site and getting some

advice along the way I finally, did my first gallbladder flush. I did it as

soon as my doctor had an ultrasound done. (Don''t know the results but from

what the tech said I don't think they found anything). At any rate, I went

for the 2 cups worth of olive oil and the large grapefruit recipe. I did

not use epsoms salt instead opted for Cascara Sagrada.

>

> I was only able to tolerate about 1 1/2 cups of the olive oil. I was

gagging just looking at it after about 1 cup. I took it in 15 min intervals

so as not to get my stomach too upset. I sucked on mint candy to help with

that and the candy really did help. However, laying in bed after taking

this stuff, I vowed never to drink that stuff again even before knowing the

results. The oil is just flat out nasty and I can't even look at it. I

don't know how some of you can take it every 2 weeks like this.

>

> After my first bowel movement today. I went with an enema to get things

going. I was surprised to see probably about 3 dozens stones. Whew, I've

been in barnyards that smell better.

>

> At any rate, I would really appreciate any more insight on clearing out

the liver/gallbladder without this horrendous night of torture and gagging.

Please keep posting or refer me to sites where I can achieve the same

results. I don't care if it is long term or short term. I just can't

tolerate that again and obviously it was a success. I have really

appreciate this forum so far.

>

> Thanks,

> Doug

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug

Congratulations on your success!

I have found that drinking the mixture in one go is the best way...but I

only use half a cup of olive oil and one large grapefruit along with the

Epsom salts and it works just fine. Maybe if you tried less olive oil.

I use the pulp of the grapefruit, too and shake it really well to emulsify

the oil. Then, when it's all down (usually in one go) I clean my teeth with

some lovely herbal toothpaste and pop off to bed.

I would certainly try again with a lot less olive oil...especially as you

had such great results...

Dax

[Guest guest]

Hi Doug,

It is my opinion that you used way, way, too much oil! Oh, my, just the

thought turns my stomach and makes me feel green! You asked for some other

options. Have you looked at Dr. Cabot's site?

http://www.liverdoctor.com I have all her books and have tried most of her

products. They are good products in my opinion. In her liver book, she has

a liver cleansing diet which is designed to clean the liver slowly. She

also has several options for cleaning the liver quickly as with the olive

oil/grapefruit combo. Although, I think even her recipes don't use anywhere

near that amount of oil.

Hope you never feel like that again, I can only imagine and what I imagined

was horrible!!! :-)

~Karma

http://loaves-n-fishes.com

http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com

> After a month of reading this web site and that web site and getting some

advice along the way I finally, did my first gallbladder flush. I did it as

soon as my doctor had an ultrasound done. (Don''t know the results but from

what the tech said I don't think they found anything). At any rate, I went

for the 2 cups worth of olive oil and the large grapefruit recipe. I did

not use epsoms salt instead opted for Cascara Sagrada.

>

> I was only able to tolerate about 1 1/2 cups of the olive oil. I was

gagging just looking at it after about 1 cup. I took it in 15 min intervals

so as not to get my stomach too upset. I sucked on mint candy to help with

that and the candy really did help. However, laying in bed after taking

this stuff, I vowed never to drink that stuff again even before knowing the

results. The oil is just flat out nasty and I can't even look at it. I

don't know how some of you can take it every 2 weeks like this.

>

> After my first bowel movement today. I went with an enema to get things

going. I was surprised to see probably about 3 dozens stones. Whew, I've

been in barnyards that smell better.

>

> At any rate, I would really appreciate any more insight on clearing out

the liver/gallbladder without this horrendous night of torture and gagging.

Please keep posting or refer me to sites where I can achieve the same

results. I don't care if it is long term or short term. I just can't

tolerate that again and obviously it was a success. I have really

appreciate this forum so far.

>

> Thanks,

> Doug

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like Dr. flush. Every 15 minutes, a lot of oil, etc.

Try a lighter cleanse. Dr. Hulga is the one I use at

www.curezone.com >>

________________

I agree, Barry. Dr. ' flush is good, but it may be too much for someone

just starting. Dr. 's cleanse works wonders, even for those of us doing

it a long time.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I agree with Dale. Dr. Hulda 's cleanse w/epsom, uses only 1/2

cup olive oil mixed with 3/4 cup grapefuit juice. Two things I've

found: 1. se organic extra virgin olive oil...goes down and stays down

better, and 2. use a straw. Take a big breath, and get it all down as

fast as possible, with one breath (don't breathe through your nose

until it's all down). Actually, I find the epsom/water harder to get

down, than the oil/grapefruit. I hope you aren't forever discouraged.

I have found that it gets easier to do the cleanse with time...that is,

I've done it 6 times now, and it has gotten successively easier to do.

Adrienne

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Doug,

Sounds like Dr. flush. Every 15 minutes, a lot of oil, etc.

Try a lighter cleanse. Dr. Hulga is the one I use at

www.curezone.com It's easier and not as much oil. Should work fine

for you. You can even double s dose now that you have earned

your wings. haha

Good luck.

Barry.

> After a month of reading this web site and that web site and

getting some advice along the way I finally, did my first gallbladder

flush. I did it as soon as my doctor had an ultrasound done.

(Don''t know the results but from what the tech said I don't think

they found anything). At any rate, I went for the 2 cups worth of

olive oil and the large grapefruit recipe. I did not use epsoms salt

instead opted for Cascara Sagrada.

>

> I was only able to tolerate about 1 1/2 cups of the olive oil. I

was gagging just looking at it after about 1 cup. I took it in 15

min intervals so as not to get my stomach too upset. I sucked on

mint candy to help with that and the candy really did help. However,

laying in bed after taking this stuff, I vowed never to drink that

stuff again even before knowing the results. The oil is just flat

out nasty and I can't even look at it. I don't know how some of you

can take it every 2 weeks like this.

>

> After my first bowel movement today. I went with an enema to get

things going. I was surprised to see probably about 3 dozens

stones. Whew, I've been in barnyards that smell better.

>

> At any rate, I would really appreciate any more insight on

clearing out the liver/gallbladder without this horrendous night of

torture and gagging. Please keep posting or refer me to sites where

I can achieve the same results. I don't care if it is long term or

short term. I just can't tolerate that again and obviously it was a

success. I have really appreciate this forum so far.

>

> Thanks,

> Doug

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doug said: I was only able to tolerate about 1 1/2 cups of the olive oil. I

was gagging just looking at it after about 1 cup. I took it in 15 min intervals

so as not to get my stomach too upset

Doug, first of all congrats for getting stones out and braving the recipe you

did. If you mix olive oil and pink grapefruit juice in equal amounts then it

won't taste too bad at all and mixes much better with the oil than lemons. Here

is my recipe (I like to use a lot of oil just to be sure it's going to do the

best it can to flush things out:

not eating for 4 hours and no fat all day. Then 3 1/2 TBS Epsom Salt in 10 oz

water. Go to bathroom when you have to, and you will! Hour and half later drink

one of 4 drinks spaced 10-15 minutes apart or however soon you can comfortably

down them: 1/2 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup fresh grapefruit squeezed and strained.

I think it uses about 6 grapefruits(1 and a half each drink). Lie as much as

possible on your right side between drinks. At any time you feel nauseous suck

on a peppermint or chew a piece of mint gum (works wonders). Then go to bed on

right side knees up and try to stay that way as much as possible for 4-5 hours.

Then you can sleep on back or right side rest of night. 8 hours after you go to

bed, drink another 3 1/2 TBS Epsom Salt in 10oz of water and go back to bed or

whatever you want to do, but realx. Stones will pass all day. If you feel the

need you can drink a weaker solution of ES in a couple of hours. And you can eat

light low/no fat meals later, starting with fruit or light soup. You will have

the runs all day as the stones and sludge pass.

Now I'm not an expert at this having done one successful and having given my

husband one like the above recipe, but I do know it works.

.. of Dewberry Hill

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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[Guest guest]

Dale, I've used the recipes that call for a pint of olive oil. It doesn't taste

bad if mixed with grapefruit juice and taken in 4 drinks , 15 minutes apart.

Does anyone have info that the pint of olive oil recipe is bad for you? It sure

does work. And I use more epsom salts but only one drink 1 1/2 before oil drink

and one drink in am. Feedback? of DH

It was.............way.............too much oil to try to use. Sorry you

were uncomfortable but it sure sound like you've cleared it all out in one

fell swoop.

Dale

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

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[Guest guest]

--- In gallstones@y..., of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078@y...>

wrote:

<Then go to bed on right side knees up >

How do you lie on the side and put your knees up? I'm not such a

great contortionist!

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

> How do you lie on the side and put your knees up? I'm not such a

> great contortionist!

I think he means knees up to his chest...curled up on side...

Dax

[Guest guest]

Would you double the grapefruit juice as well?

----- Original Message -----

From: " barry91162 " <barry91162@...>

<gallstones >

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:48 PM

Subject: Re: first flush, never again

> Doug,

>

> Sounds like Dr. flush. Every 15 minutes, a lot of oil, etc.

> Try a lighter cleanse. Dr. Hulga is the one I use at

> www.curezone.com It's easier and not as much oil. Should work fine

> for you. You can even double s dose now that you have earned

> your wings. haha

>

> Good luck.

> Barry.

>

>

>

>

> > After a month of reading this web site and that web site and

> getting some advice along the way I finally, did my first gallbladder

> flush. I did it as soon as my doctor had an ultrasound done.

> (Don''t know the results but from what the tech said I don't think

> they found anything). At any rate, I went for the 2 cups worth of

> olive oil and the large grapefruit recipe. I did not use epsoms salt

> instead opted for Cascara Sagrada.

> >

> > I was only able to tolerate about 1 1/2 cups of the olive oil. I

> was gagging just looking at it after about 1 cup. I took it in 15

> min intervals so as not to get my stomach too upset. I sucked on

> mint candy to help with that and the candy really did help. However,

> laying in bed after taking this stuff, I vowed never to drink that

> stuff again even before knowing the results. The oil is just flat

> out nasty and I can't even look at it. I don't know how some of you

> can take it every 2 weeks like this.

> >

> > After my first bowel movement today. I went with an enema to get

> things going. I was surprised to see probably about 3 dozens

> stones. Whew, I've been in barnyards that smell better.

> >

> > At any rate, I would really appreciate any more insight on

> clearing out the liver/gallbladder without this horrendous night of

> torture and gagging. Please keep posting or refer me to sites where

> I can achieve the same results. I don't care if it is long term or

> short term. I just can't tolerate that again and obviously it was a

> success. I have really appreciate this forum so far.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Doug

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I would, but if you are brave, don't. :-)

> > > After a month of reading this web site and that web site and

> > getting some advice along the way I finally, did my first

gallbladder

> > flush. I did it as soon as my doctor had an ultrasound done.

> > (Don''t know the results but from what the tech said I don't think

> > they found anything). At any rate, I went for the 2 cups worth of

> > olive oil and the large grapefruit recipe. I did not use epsoms

salt

> > instead opted for Cascara Sagrada.

> > >

> > > I was only able to tolerate about 1 1/2 cups of the olive oil.

I

> > was gagging just looking at it after about 1 cup. I took it in 15

> > min intervals so as not to get my stomach too upset. I sucked on

> > mint candy to help with that and the candy really did help.

However,

> > laying in bed after taking this stuff, I vowed never to drink that

> > stuff again even before knowing the results. The oil is just flat

> > out nasty and I can't even look at it. I don't know how some of

you

> > can take it every 2 weeks like this.

> > >

> > > After my first bowel movement today. I went with an enema to

get

> > things going. I was surprised to see probably about 3 dozens

> > stones. Whew, I've been in barnyards that smell better.

> > >

> > > At any rate, I would really appreciate any more insight on

> > clearing out the liver/gallbladder without this horrendous night

of

> > torture and gagging. Please keep posting or refer me to sites

where

> > I can achieve the same results. I don't care if it is long term

or

> > short term. I just can't tolerate that again and obviously it

was a

> > success. I have really appreciate this forum so far.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Doug

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Barry we double the olive oil and grapefruit juice and no problem. And that's

the flush my honey got out that humongous stone. of Dewberry Hill

Barry said:

I would, but if you are brave, don't. :-)

> Would you double the grapefruit juice as well?

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " barry91162 " <barry91162@y...>

> <gallstones@y...>

> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:48 PM

> Subject: Re: first flush, never again

>

>

> > Doug,

> >

> > Sounds like Dr. flush. Every 15 minutes, a lot of oil, etc.

> > Try a lighter cleanse. Dr. Hulga is the one I use at

> > www.curezone.com It's easier and not as much oil. Should work fine

> > for you. You can even double s dose now that you have earned

> > your wings. haha

> >

> > Good luck.

> > Barry.

> >

" People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is

out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

" Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that

followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

Holy Bible

---------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Yes, you can double Hulga's oil to 2 full cups of oil/juice and drink

it all at once or even space it 1 cup each 15-20 minutes apart lying

down between the 2 drinks.

Barry.

> > Would you double the grapefruit juice as well?

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " barry91162 " <barry91162@y...>

> > <gallstones@y...>

> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 8:48 PM

> > Subject: Re: first flush, never again

> >

> >

> > > Doug,

> > >

> > > Sounds like Dr. flush. Every 15 minutes, a lot of oil,

etc.

> > > Try a lighter cleanse. Dr. Hulga is the one I use at

> > > www.curezone.com It's easier and not as much oil. Should work

fine

> > > for you. You can even double s dose now that you have

earned

> > > your wings. haha

> > >

> > > Good luck.

> > > Barry.

> > >

>

>

>

> " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when

the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is

revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

> " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the

world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall

have the light of life. " Holy Bible

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/21/02 4:21:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, laser@...

writes:

> Does anyone use a similar regimen but with much less Epsom salts? Or

> perhaps with cascara sagrada?

>

Ira

The regimen I usually follow, which is sort of a variation of different

things, doesn't involve Epsom salts. I've recently written about what I do,

but if you didn't read it and are interested, I will post it again. There are

those who would say that I would get more stones out if I used the ES and I'm

willing to accept that as a possibility. I am still getting a lot out

without them and I am just not willing to deal with the diarrhea caused by

the ES. Besides, it's just nasty stuff and I'd rather not drink it.

I tried it that way in the my first few flushes and I'm happy with the way

things go now. That's just my personal preference.

However, if you DO choose to use the Epsom Salts, the one thing that I found

that helped to make it more palatable is adding some fresh squeezed lemon

juice. That really helped get it down. Just thought I'd add that

suggestion.

in health,

[Guest guest]

of Dewberry Hill keyed in the following in Digest Number

924:

>Here is my recipe (I like to use a lot of oil just to be sure it's going

>to do the best it can to flush things out:

>

>not eating for 4 hours and no fat all day. Then 3 1/2 TBS Epsom Salt in 10

>oz water.

Two questions: Do you mean not eating for 4 hours from the time you

awaken, and then taking the Epsom salts at 10 AM? Or do you start only in

the evening? Do you really mean 3 1/2 TABLESPOONS? That seems like an

enormous quantity! Especially considering that some people don't take

Epsom salts at all. And then you take the same quantity later on.

>Go to bathroom when you have to, and you will! Hour and half later

At about 10:30 AM? Or in the evening/

>drink one of 4 drinks spaced 10-15 minutes apart or however soon you can

>comfortably down them: 1/2 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup fresh grapefruit

>squeezed and strained.

I take it that each of the four drinks consists of 1/2 cup olive oil and

1/2 cup fresh grapefruit?

>Stones will pass all day. If you feel the need you can drink a weaker

>solution of ES in a couple of hours.

Even more Epsom salts!

Does anyone use a similar regimen but with much less Epsom salts? Or

perhaps with cascara sagrada?

>And you can eat light low/no fat meals later,

Now I'm confused about time. Is this later in the same day, or the next day?

>starting with fruit or light soup. You will have the runs all day as the

>stones and sludge pass.

-----------------------

IRA L. JACOBSON

-----------------------

mailto:laser@...

[Guest guest]

Ira,

You can see the exact method of cleansing and pictures, testamonies

from dozens of people by going to Dr. Hulga s liver/gallbladder

cleanse at http://www.curezone.com.

It will answer all of your questions and doubts. Most people in this

group uses her method of cleansing.

Good luck.

Barry.

> of Dewberry Hill keyed in the following in

Digest Number

> 924:

>

> >Here is my recipe (I like to use a lot of oil just to be sure it's

going

> >to do the best it can to flush things out:

> >

> >not eating for 4 hours and no fat all day. Then 3 1/2 TBS Epsom

Salt in 10

> >oz water.

>

> Two questions: Do you mean not eating for 4 hours from the time

you

> awaken, and then taking the Epsom salts at 10 AM? Or do you start

only in

> the evening? Do you really mean 3 1/2 TABLESPOONS? That seems

like an

> enormous quantity! Especially considering that some people don't

take

> Epsom salts at all. And then you take the same quantity later on.

>

> >Go to bathroom when you have to, and you will! Hour and half later

>

> At about 10:30 AM? Or in the evening/

>

> >drink one of 4 drinks spaced 10-15 minutes apart or however soon

you can

> >comfortably down them: 1/2 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup fresh

grapefruit

> >squeezed and strained.

>

> I take it that each of the four drinks consists of 1/2 cup olive

oil and

> 1/2 cup fresh grapefruit?

>

> >Stones will pass all day. If you feel the need you can drink a

weaker

> >solution of ES in a couple of hours.

>

> Even more Epsom salts!

>

> Does anyone use a similar regimen but with much less Epsom salts?

Or

> perhaps with cascara sagrada?

>

> >And you can eat light low/no fat meals later,

>

> Now I'm confused about time. Is this later in the same day, or the

next day?

>

> >starting with fruit or light soup. You will have the runs all day

as the

> >stones and sludge pass.

>

>

> -----------------------

> IRA L. JACOBSON

> -----------------------

> mailto:laser@i...