Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Hi Barry, Thankyou for all your 'even' advise. With the help of the websites and especially the responses from everyone in this forum, I'm feeling much more relaxed about the large stone / duct scenario. Just to let you know that I've found a company who seems to supply the products that Dr talks about: http://www.selfhealth.co.uk - might be worth a look for anyone trying to pin these ingredients down. As usual with me, my timing is extremely poor and feels like the clock is ticking and therefore anxious, as the hospital letter will hit my doormat anyday now with an operation appointment for the following week (they've warned that I'll be given 1 to 2 weeks notice). I'm planning to travel by the end of the summer and therefore cannot cancel and then reschedule the operation and really dont want to go with this stone still causing havoc! So, I shall soldier on with the investigating and set a date very soon to at least give the cleansing a fighting chance to work. Once again - many thanks for all the help! Michele -----Original Message----- From: barry91162 [mailto:barry91162@...] Sent: Friday, 18 Jan 2002 3:30 pm gallstones Subject: Re: Newcomer from UK! Another thing Michele, I've read your posts and get the impression that your fear is more in passing a big stone through a small duct and possibly getting stuck. With the epsom, and oil/fruit mixture the stones soften but also the ducts dialate. The common duct and cystic duct is only around 2-3 mm in size. The GB is like the size of an unflated balloon. Even though the duct is small it isn't like a rigid garden hose. It is very flexible and can stretch to accommodate a large (2-3cm) stone while flushing. Oh, and it doesn't hurt at all. You can't even feel a stone passing, but if you do it feels normal or sothing even. Hope this helps to ease the worry about duct size, etc. Barry. > Hi , > > Thanks for the kind words and advise! Basically, although the doctor told me > the stone was too big for keyhole surgery as its 17mm (roughly only 3/4 > inch!). Every time I read up on cleansing and what other people have managed > to rid themselves of in a 'natural' way, the more astounded I am of the > medical profession and their lack of knowledge regarding alternative natural > 'cures'. Why isn't cleansing a well documented subject and allow others to > help themselves? > > Did you do the parasite cleanse before the liver/gallbladder clense? Dr > Hulda seems to strongly recommend this but I can't seem to track down > the necessary ingredients needed - (Black Walnut Green Tincture, Wormwood > Tincture and Cloves Tincture). Also, no one has even heard of Gold Coin > Grass (I understand this helps soften them before hand)! Any ideas? > > Many thanks, Michele > > -----Original Message----- > From: of Dewberry Hill [mailto:cozad76078@y...] > Sent: Friday, 18 Jan 2002 2:06 am > gallstones@y... > Subject: Re: Newcomer from UK! > > > > Welcome Michele, You've come to the right place. The flushing really > works. Plese forgive my ignorance and am embarrased to ask but I only > understand inches. How long is 17 mm in inches? My husband had a gallstone 1 > 1/4 inches come out last weekend! He didn't even feel it, there it was. > Everyone will help you together. http://curezone.com is a good place to > start learning. > > of Dewberry Hill > > Michele said: I have a 17mm gallstone in my gallbladder that has been > causing me > very painful attacks for the past 3 years but I really REALLY dont > want my gallbladder removed or even undertake an operation. > > > > " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun > is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if > there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross > " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he > that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of > life. " Holy Bible > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2002 Report Share Posted January 18, 2002 Michele, is this stone they said you have causing you unbearable pain? If so then I'd get Agnes to advise you on how quick you can do the flush and others do know of a quick relief remedy. Agnes is our " Mommy " expert here. Otherwise...I personally wouldn't let those docs touch me. We have passes stones that size and bigger without even knowing we had them. If you need immediate advice I'd post with Agnes's name first so she hears loud and clear. of DH Michele said: As usual with me, my timing is extremely poor and feels like the clock is ticking and therefore anxious, as the hospital letter will hit my doormat anyday now with an operation appointment for the following week (they've warned that I'll be given 1 to 2 weeks notice " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. " Holy Bible --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 <<I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is concerned with a stone lodging in a duct and thus requiring emergency intervention.>> Everyone here is!! laura ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ira L. son " <laser@...> <gallstones > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Newcomer from UK! > At or about 14:26, 18/01/02 (my clock), Susie wrote in Digest > Number 924: > >I had a stone > >come out that was at least one inch. My hubby stuck a ruler up next to it. > >It was a whopper! > > I'm interested in knowing if 1 inch was the largest dimension or the smallest. > > Could the stone have come out in an orientation that makes it easy to pass > through the duct? > > I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is concerned with a stone lodging in > a duct and thus requiring emergency intervention. > > > > ----------------------- > IRA L. JACOBSON > ----------------------- > mailto:laser@... > > > > > Learn more from our experience, more then 200 liver flush stories: > http:///messages/gallstones-testimonials > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: > http://www.CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > Images: > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > Post message: gallstones > Receive no-mail: gallstones-nomail > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > Unsubscribe: gallstones-unsubscribe > > Web Sites for more information: > http://CureZone.com/gallstones/ > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > > Group page: gallstones > > To change your subscription to digest (receive up to 25 e-mails in just one single e-mail, once a day) send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > > To change your subscription to NORMAL (receive each message separate) > send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > Have a nice day ! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ira L. son " <laser@...> <gallstones > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:48 AM Subject: Re: Newcomer from UK! I'd be more worried about 'emergency intervention'. If the liver flush is done correctly, no stones will lodge in a bile duct. Does anyone remember running back Walter Peyton? He was murdered by emergency intervention. If he had known anything about doing liver flushes, he'd be alive today. Betsy Ira L. son wrote: > I'm sure that I'm not the only one who is concerned with a stone lodging in > a duct and thus requiring emergency intervention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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