Successful surgery is a posibility

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There are always two sides to every story, and I'm glad you chose to

post your successful surgery story here, as there aren't enough of

those here. It is true that attitude is a major health factor, and

when someone is faced with the best choice being surgery, they need a

positive attitude to recover. There wouldn't be so many gall bladder

removals if it weren't successful in many cases, and the insurance

companies surely wouldn't allow it if they weren't going to find it

the most cost effective treatment. There are lots of reasons to have

surgery, and a blanket denial of surgery's value is ignorance.

But it should be the last choice, and because it is used so often

before being the last choice, there are way too many iatrogenic

problems arising around it. The causes leading to gall bladders being

removed should be dealt with more if we want to overcome the problems

arising from surgery, and I'd say a big percentage of the problems lie

in the hands of those who approve the food industry's products for

human consumption. Let's face it, too many " food " products aren't

really food and should be sold by prescription if at all! Instead the

lawmakers are forcing the nutritional supplements that are required in

a diet that is filled with non-nutritional substances to be sold only

by prescription, pretending to be worried that a vitamin tablet is

more dangerous than a fast food hamburger...those lawmakers are

medical representatives, so there's no excuse for their ignoring the

health statistics from poor diet, and, instead, putting their efforts

into announcing the necessity for the control of " dangerous "

supplements for your safety. Could it be because the lobby for fast

food is stronger than the lobby for nutritional supplements? Or that

there is a profit in allowing the poor diet to continue?

Most assuredly! Today, in this modern scientific age full of

statistics offered by lobbying pharmaceutical company salesmen, most

doctors are forced to assume you eat poorly and will not change your

diet when faced with health problems, and therefore assume that

removing your gallbadder is the most successful treatment. I think

that assumption negates their medical degree....and minimizes any help

they may be able to offer. So if your doctor isn't interested in what

you eat, or offering alternatives to what you eat that will improve

your health, you will want to try some others before letting them cut

you up. If they are aware of your diet and understand the importance

of diet in treating disease, and still recommend surgery, they are

worth listening to. But if it were me, I'd want three different

doctors like that to give their opinions before I let one cut into me.

Eulypian

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> <<Food is much more dificult

> to digest without a GB. Also, more stones could still be made in

your

> liver and get stuck in a duct causing you the same type of feeling

of

> pain anyway.<<

>

> It is frustrating to keep hearing this from folks who still have

their

> gallbladders, because after over a year, I can eat absloutely

anything, with

> no problems at all, and I have had no pain of any kind. Also, with

the

> exception of one person (who had emergency surgery after collapsing

at work,

> and who occasionally has some pain, probably from leftover stones in

the

> duct) everyone I know personally who has had their gallbladder out

(and

> there are many, because I talked to lots of people because I was so

afraid

> of surgery) has had the same experience I have had. I certainly do

not say

> this to encourage surgery, or to discourage seeking out ways to keep

your

> gallbladder, but to add some balance to the misinformation that is

often

> given out. I was terrified of having surgery, partly because of the

> anesthesia, and partly because of the horror stories I heard hear,

but the

> information I received from people who I actually know who had it

out was

> quite different from what I heard here.

>

> There are risks to any course of action. By all means, read, flush,

change

> your diet, and avoid surgery if possible. (My three kids were not

even born

> in a hospital, or with a doctor present, so please do not claim I am

quick

> to run to a doctor.) But if all else fails, and surgery becomes

necessary,

> or just becomes the choice you make, do so with a positive attitude,

not

> with fears of what it will be like afterwards. The patient's mental

outlook

> often affects the recovery, and outcome.

>

> I find it interesting that folks seem to be perfectly happy to hear

stories

> about folks who have had their gallbladder out, as long as they are

still

> having a problem, but if they are feeling great it almost feels as

if folks

> are threatened. Can't we just be glad that people are feeling well,

however

> they've done it? If people get to a point where they feel that they

need

> surgery, shouldn't we try to support those few, instead of making

them feel

> like they have somehow failed, or scaring them? There is enough

positive

> information here about flushing, diet, etc., that in itself should

convince

> people that there are options that should be explored before

surgery. There

> are enough success stories that should reinforce this. Scare

tactics are

> not necessary.

>

> As I have stated before, I only stay here to offer advice to folks

who

> eventually do choose surgery. I want them to know what to expect,

what

> questions to ask, etc., to help them have an informed experience.

We

> usually correspond off-list, so as not to take up the time of folks

who are

> not interested. This in no way means that I do not encourage and

support

> those who continue to restore their gallbladders to good health.

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[Guest guest]

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>>But it should be the last choice, and because it is used so often

>before being the last choice<<

>>The causes leading to gall bladders being

>removed should be dealt with more if we want to overcome the problems

>arising from surgery, and I'd say a big percentage of the problems lie

>in the hands of those who approve the food industry's products for

>human consumption.<<

>>Instead the

>lawmakers are forcing the nutritional supplements that are required in

>a diet that is filled with non-nutritional substances to be sold only

>by prescription, pretending to be worried that a vitamin tablet is

>more dangerous than a fast food hamburger

All very good points.

Debra

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