Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 (((((((((bink)))))))))))) It sounds like your nada is just the cherry on top of a lot of other stress you are experiencing right now. Its hard (for me, anyway) to deal with problems when they are ganging up on me. One at a time, or even two at a time I can handle, but not a whole gang of them. I tend to shut down when I feel overwhelmed, too. Are you seeing a psychologist now? Maybe all you need is a " tune up " , as my Sister puts it. Possibly you need a different med/different amount; everyone has to figure out with their psychologist which meds in which combos and amounts work best for them. And your psychologist can give you some new insights and tools to help you when you're feeling ganged up on by stuff. It *is* sad to come to terms with the fact that our mothers are simply really, severely mentally ill and way too dangerous to even be around. The stuff your mother just did: attacking your husband physically and then claiming it was he who hurt her is extremely indicative of how mentally ill she is. YOur nada could easily decide to get your husband arrested for " attacking her " so I would not ever visit your mother again alone (meaning just you and your husband) at her home. Only visit her in public, only with witnesses around. That is precisely what I am afraid my nada is going to do to Sister and me, to get even with us for going No Contact: if we are foolish enough to visit her alone, I fear that she is going to claim that we have hit her or pushed her or something. Or possibly that we have stolen something from her, or maybe she'll grab her gun and try to blow our brains out; she has talked about buying a gun lately. I'm never going to be around my mother alone again; I just don't trust her. Personality disorder truly a form of insanity, and bpds are known for rapid, unpredictable mood swings and inappropriate rages, which is a toxic soup of potential danger. You are not a bad person for protecting yourself and your husband from danger. -Annie > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her health > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only talk > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she was > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive anywhere. > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to her > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it IS > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so freaking > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying to > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT ARE > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i was > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, at > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind of > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that he " hit > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front yard > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then he > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in the > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was like, > WE'RE LEAVING. > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like she > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard surface > and really screwed her back up. > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get over > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely no > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working in > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this year > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching is > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when one > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. i > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > anywhere. > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm always > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't focus > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with mom > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree with > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any reason > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a difference > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make sure > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all makes > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, crazy > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us and > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm MEDICATED. > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't know > what to do. > > bink > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 the thing is, this chase/hitting/falling thing happened in the FRONT YARD OF HER HOUSE! there was actually a few guys across the street watching the whole thing. if it were in a movie, it would have been hilarious. my life is a black comedy. i'm seeing a psychiatrist. i don't think talk therapy is very useful for me. i'm pretty honest about stuff, and when i'm not, my dad, sisters, husband, and friends will tell me what's what. i guess i just think the reactions i'm having to all this are pretty rational reactions. it's just the non-functioning part that kind of scares me. i don't want to go to work in the morning. and i don't know what i will do with myself if i do quit. i am going to finish my masters degree and try to get a job at the local junior college in remedial math or math curriculum development, but the soonest that will be is in a yr and a half. i was very scared that mom would make up lies about me or others attacking her. i have seen her lie to the police. she had this boyfriend who was a complete ass (she still asks me why i didn't like him, like there was something wrong with me for not respecting an asshole who cheated on her and competed with me, a 13 yr old). anyway, she, the boyfriend, and my 11 yr old sister had gone out. i stayed home, can't remember if it was with my baby sister or not. anyway, the three of them got home and mom was furious that he had been dancing with some other woman. anyway, she proceeded to beat the crap out of him, literally biting chunks out of his arm, then called the police and said that HE WAS STRANGLING HER! she has discoloration on her neck that looks like bruises. she said that they were injuries she sustained from him. they would have arrested him, except that she had kicked in his truck's door so that the window wouldn't roll down anymore and the police would have to arrest her for vandalism if they arrested him for domestic violence. it was so surreal talking to the policemen, not corroborating your mom's story, KNOWING she is LYING to them. creepy as hell. bink > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her health > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only talk > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she was > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive anywhere. > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to her > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it IS > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so freaking > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying to > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT ARE > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i was > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, at > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind of > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that he " hit > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front yard > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then he > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in the > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was like, > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like she > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard surface > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get over > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely no > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working in > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this year > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching is > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when one > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. i > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > anywhere. > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm always > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't focus > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with mom > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree with > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any reason > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a difference > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make sure > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all makes > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, crazy > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us and > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm MEDICATED. > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't know > > what to do. > > > > bink > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Bink! I am glad to see you posting again. I was just thinking about you the other day and wondered if you were ok. If you want to remain LC, I think that you should not go anywhere or have any conversation with your nada without witnesses (other than your hubby). It seems to me that your nada is trying to get any kind of attention she can. She will do anything good or bad in order to get it. If it were me, (for what it's worth) I would stay far away from nada when she is behaving this way. She is acting like a 2 year old with an adult mind. I think that's why she comes up with such eff'd up ways to get attention. She needs to know that you will not put up with that behavior, period. I think that all of us ko's are still treated by our nadas like we are kids and not like the adults that we are. Because if our nadas did they would know that we can walk away now, we are not vulnerable like when we were kids. I'm sorry to read that you are depressed. The good news is that it is much more likely that you will come out of this depression soon. You are seeing a psychiatrist and taking meds. This is all good. And the meds are things that need to be monitored frequently because quite a lot it seems they need to be adjusted or changed. I think it's pretty common to actually become more depressed if you are taking the wrong med or wrong dosage. You should tell your doctor how you are feeling and ask them if your meds need to be adjusted. You are under a lot of stress and it makes sense that your meds need to be adjusted to that. Have you been journaling? That always makes me feel better. Congrats on getting a master's degree!! That is really something to be proud of. A year and a half will fly by and sooner than you know it, you will be working in a completely new environment! That is one thing that ALWAYS makes me feel happy is starting something new. I can be however I want, it's a fresh start. KWIM? I hope that you keep posting, I really enjoy your sense of humor and perspective on things. > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her health > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only talk > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she was > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive anywhere. > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to her > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it IS > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so freaking > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying to > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT ARE > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i was > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, at > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind of > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that he " hit > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front yard > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then he > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in the > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was like, > WE'RE LEAVING. > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like she > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard surface > and really screwed her back up. > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get over > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely no > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working in > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this year > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching is > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when one > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. i > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > anywhere. > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm always > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't focus > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with mom > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree with > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any reason > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a difference > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make sure > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all makes > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, crazy > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us and > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm MEDICATED. > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't know > what to do. > > bink > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 awww! warm fuzzies! thanks for the reply. i guess i just sometimes forget that other people don't have this kind of screwed up relationship with their moms. i think it's so weird that people can have normal moms. when i was a kid, i didn't meet my mom's dad until i was 11. i thought it was totally normal to have 3 grandparents. it's amazing what kids will just accept as " the way it is. " bink > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her health > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only talk > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she was > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive anywhere. > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to her > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it IS > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so freaking > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying to > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT ARE > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i was > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, at > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind of > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that he " hit > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front yard > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then he > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in the > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was like, > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like she > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard surface > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get over > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely no > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working in > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this year > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching is > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when one > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. i > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > anywhere. > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm always > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't focus > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with mom > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree with > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any reason > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a difference > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make sure > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all makes > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, crazy > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us and > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm MEDICATED. > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't know > > what to do. > > > > bink > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I understand what you mean. I really didn't realize how wrong things were with my family until I was an adult and saw how my friends are with their kids. And to a lesser extent how my friends parents were with them. When I got close to my friends kids it really hit home all of the things that nada did to me, exposed me to, and did NOT do. I still just can't imagine saying to a child the things my nada has repeatedly said to me. I still can't imagine neglecting a child the way my nada did to me. My nada did the absolute bare minimum of " taking care of me " basically she fed and clothed me. Therefore in her mind, she is mother of the year and I am an ungrateful bitch for all she has done for me. Never mind that I had no guidance, nurturing, etc. It amazes me now that I just accepted how things were and didn't even know that I was abused! I used to be a peer counselor at school and I would listen to other kids and what they were going through but I never made the connection to me. My nada convinced me that abuse was only beatings and starving, etc. Now I know better. > > > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her > health > > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only > talk > > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she > was > > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive > anywhere. > > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to > her > > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it > IS > > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so > freaking > > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying > to > > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT > ARE > > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i > was > > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, > at > > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind > of > > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that > he " hit > > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front > yard > > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then > he > > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in > the > > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was > like, > > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like > she > > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard > surface > > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get > over > > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely > no > > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working > in > > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this > year > > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching > is > > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when > one > > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. > i > > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > > anywhere. > > > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm > always > > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't > focus > > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with > mom > > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree > with > > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any > reason > > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a > difference > > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make > sure > > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all > makes > > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, > crazy > > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us > and > > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm > MEDICATED. > > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't > know > > > what to do. > > > > > > bink > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 That's why kids are so easily abused and damaged, children have NO perspective on their own situation. They have no *means* to recognize that they are being emotionally abused, and no defenses against it. Kids even begin to believe that they *caused* their parents to abuse them, and that they *deserve* it. Its worse than stomping on a puppy, IMHO. Some kids' (older kids) sense of survival kicks in when they are being severely physically abused or starved, and they run away... but the kind of chronic, daily, medium-grade emotional and physical abuse that a lot of us suffered just skates by under the radar, and when we are mistreated from birth we simply accept it as " normal. " Its brain-washing. That's why I am a broken record, repeating over and over that children should not be left alone with pds, its too dangerous. My nada kept us rather isolated from other families; I didn't spend a lot of time at other kid's homes, or even at the homes of my relatives. And I'd been so brainwashed, when I did spend any time at all at other people's homes I believed that all families must be like mine: I thought mommies were sweet and nice when other people (meaning other adults) were around, and then when the other people left the mommies would scream at their children and beat them like mine did. I didn't ask other children over to play at my house, my mom would scream at me and humiliate me in front of my friends, but she never hit me or raged at me (or Sister) if there were other adults around. An exception to this (to indicate the level of dysfunction in my parent's thinking): an uncle of mine had been arrested and convicted for molesting a neighbor child. When he got out of jail, *my* parents made a point of sending me over there to spend the weekend with my same-age cousin (also a girl). I was about 8 or so. I wasn't molested, but I remember being shocked and bewildered at the way my uncle talked openly about things I wasn't supposed to talk about (body parts, toilet jokes, etc.) but he thought it was so funny. Weird. I think the mentally ill behaviors underlying all these ghastly incidents RE mistreating children are eerily similar: control, anger, revenge; its only that some pd parents are higher-functioning and some are lower-functioning. We only read about the low-functioning ones who are so intensely toxic that they make the news. Here's a book about a child who was singled out from his siblings as the " bad child " , and suffered escalating mistreatment by his mother for years. It is similar to the case breaking in the news now, about the 17-year-old who escaped from his " caretakers " who had chained him to the fireplace, starved him, beaten him with a baseball bat, and made other children in the household ignore him and mistreat him as well. Just horrific. A Child Called " It " - One Child's Courage to Survive by Dave Pelzer, 1995 True autobiographical story of a boy's maltreatment by his mentally ill, alcoholic mother. -Annie > > > > > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her > > health > > > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only > > talk > > > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she > > was > > > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive > > anywhere. > > > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to > > her > > > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it > > IS > > > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so > > freaking > > > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > > > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying > > to > > > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT > > ARE > > > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i > > was > > > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, > > at > > > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > > > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind > > of > > > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that > > he " hit > > > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front > > yard > > > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then > > he > > > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in > > the > > > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was > > like, > > > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like > > she > > > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard > > surface > > > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get > > over > > > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely > > no > > > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working > > in > > > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this > > year > > > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching > > is > > > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when > > one > > > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. > > i > > > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm > > always > > > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't > > focus > > > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with > > mom > > > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree > > with > > > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any > > reason > > > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a > > difference > > > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make > > sure > > > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all > > makes > > > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, > > crazy > > > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us > > and > > > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > > > > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > > > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm > > MEDICATED. > > > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't > > know > > > > what to do. > > > > > > > > bink > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I have read that book along with his other ones. Boy they are DISTURBING. My nada actually got me those as an xmas gift one year and took a sick joy in watching me read it in horror (i was reading it to avoid having to deal with her, merry christmas to me...not!) She would see a look of horror on my face and she would say what part are you at with sick glee (she had previously read them). > > > > > > > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > > > > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her > > > health > > > > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only > > > talk > > > > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she > > > was > > > > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive > > > anywhere. > > > > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to > > > her > > > > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it > > > IS > > > > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > > > > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so > > > freaking > > > > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > > > > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying > > > to > > > > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT > > > ARE > > > > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i > > > was > > > > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, > > > at > > > > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > > > > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind > > > of > > > > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that > > > he " hit > > > > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front > > > yard > > > > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then > > > he > > > > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in > > > the > > > > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > > > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was > > > like, > > > > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > > > > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > > > > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like > > > she > > > > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > > > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard > > > surface > > > > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > > > > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > > > > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get > > > over > > > > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely > > > no > > > > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working > > > in > > > > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this > > > year > > > > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching > > > is > > > > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when > > > one > > > > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. > > > i > > > > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm > > > always > > > > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > > > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't > > > focus > > > > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with > > > mom > > > > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > > > > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree > > > with > > > > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any > > > reason > > > > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a > > > difference > > > > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make > > > sure > > > > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all > > > makes > > > > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, > > > crazy > > > > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us > > > and > > > > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > > > > > > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > > > > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm > > > MEDICATED. > > > > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > > > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't > > > know > > > > > what to do. > > > > > > > > > > bink > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Bink, I always sense such good energy and intentions in all of your posts to offers. Oh my dear, it is in their inside of you- a part of you that is healthy balanced and loved. It is waiting to emerge even more, but there is a lot of crap that you must deal with in your life piled on top of it. Your mother is over the top. She has serious issues. Please tell your husband, as nicely as possible, nada needs help. Also tell him to respect the space and boundaries you have worked so hard to establish with her. That all Thanksgiving encounter would have shut me down. Having a dysfunctional childhood and the results of it come out at the most inappropriate times in our lives. For damn sure when we are stressed, the residual childhood stuff starts a flying. I have noticed personally- am not as depressed, as I just need to shut down regroup and move forward. My Thanksgiving was nothing like yours, but it was very stressful. I literally shut down on Friday, so my spirit could regroup and it did. I am going to recommend, if possible you seek a program for depression. See what your health insurance will cover. Having the alcoholic mother, there must be some deep rooted codependency stuff going on. I went to the Caron House for a week program to deal with my codependency, depression, suicidial thoughts. I highly recommend something like that. It was truly life changing. The therapists there are trained in the psycho-drama therapy, and you learn strategies to help you love and care about you. Oh honey, when you are this depressed, I know and remember - life is seems at times impossible, even the easy stuff. I only know about the Caron House- in Penna. I am sure there are other places too. This place offers a lot of scholarships to helps with expenses. I still have my moments and days- but I haven't been on medication for at least 6 months- and I attend my Caron meetings once a month and do therapy too. Please know your not a burden- you are a human being trying to regain control of you- and YOU will do that. BIG HUGS!!! and Blessings, Malinda In WTOAdultChildren1 , " bink1227 " wrote: > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her health > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only talk > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she was > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive anywhere. > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to her > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it IS > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so freaking > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying to > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT ARE > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i was > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, at > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind of > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that he " hit > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front yard > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then he > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in the > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was like, > WE'RE LEAVING. > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like she > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard surface > and really screwed her back up. > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get over > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely no > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working in > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this year > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching is > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when one > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. i > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > anywhere. > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm always > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't focus > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with mom > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree with > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any reason > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a difference > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make sure > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all makes > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, crazy > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us and > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm MEDICATED. > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't know > what to do. > > bink > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Yes, the one I read, " A Child Called 'It' " is horrific, the more so because it is a true story, and I cried for hours after I read it. But it also gave me hope, that if a child who had been THAT mistreated had survived, and was not full of hate, had not become a monster himself, that maybe there was hope for me. I think that is totally creepy that your nada ... enjoyed(?!?) the story. I find THAT deeply, deeply disturbing, on several levels. Brrr. -Annie > > > > > > > > > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > > > > > > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her > > > > health > > > > > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only > > > > talk > > > > > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said > she > > > > was > > > > > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to > > > > her > > > > > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it > > > > IS > > > > > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so > > > > freaking > > > > > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to > argue > > > > > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and > trying > > > > to > > > > > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT > > > > ARE > > > > > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i > > > > was > > > > > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " > anyway, > > > > at > > > > > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me > stuff > > > > > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband > kind > > > > of > > > > > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that > > > > he " hit > > > > > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the > front > > > > yard > > > > > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. > then > > > > he > > > > > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in > > > > the > > > > > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > > > > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was > > > > like, > > > > > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > > > > > > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > > > > > > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked > like > > > > she > > > > > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > > > > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard > > > > surface > > > > > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > > > > > > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get > > > > over > > > > > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is > absolutely > > > > no > > > > > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working > > > > in > > > > > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom > this > > > > year > > > > > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. > teaching > > > > is > > > > > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked > when > > > > one > > > > > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step > father. > > > > i > > > > > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm > > > > always > > > > > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > > > > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't > > > > focus > > > > > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with > > > > mom > > > > > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > > > > > > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree > > > > with > > > > > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any > > > > reason > > > > > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a > > > > difference > > > > > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make > > > > sure > > > > > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all > > > > makes > > > > > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, > > > > crazy > > > > > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that > liked us > > > > and > > > > > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i > wasn't > > > > > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm > > > > MEDICATED. > > > > > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > > > > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't > > > > know > > > > > > what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > bink > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 oh me too. it really bothered me to see her reaction. she tends to be obsessed with crime stories. she taped the entire year of the oj trial plus the commentary on the news after each day of trial, for example. she loves all of that stuff. not quite sure why. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her > > > > > health > > > > > > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually > only > > > > > talk > > > > > > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said > > she > > > > > was > > > > > > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive > > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty > close to > > > > > her > > > > > > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your > mom. it > > > > > IS > > > > > > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so > > > > > freaking > > > > > > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to > > argue > > > > > > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and > > trying > > > > > to > > > > > > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking > WHAT > > > > > ARE > > > > > > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for > her. i > > > > > was > > > > > > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " > > anyway, > > > > > at > > > > > > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me > > stuff > > > > > > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband > > kind > > > > > of > > > > > > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that > > > > > he " hit > > > > > > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the > > front > > > > > yard > > > > > > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. > > then > > > > > he > > > > > > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell > down in > > > > > the > > > > > > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her > into the > > > > > > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was > > > > > like, > > > > > > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked > > like > > > > > she > > > > > > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after > she had > > > > > > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard > > > > > surface > > > > > > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot > get > > > > > over > > > > > > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is > > absolutely > > > > > no > > > > > > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was > working > > > > > in > > > > > > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom > > this > > > > > year > > > > > > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. > > teaching > > > > > is > > > > > > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked > > when > > > > > one > > > > > > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step > > father. > > > > > i > > > > > > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > > > > > > anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm > > > > > always > > > > > > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i > wasn't > > > > > > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i > can't > > > > > focus > > > > > > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop > with > > > > > mom > > > > > > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my > shoulder. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to > agree > > > > > with > > > > > > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into > any > > > > > reason > > > > > > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a > > > > > difference > > > > > > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will > make > > > > > sure > > > > > > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all > > > > > makes > > > > > > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a > big, > > > > > crazy > > > > > > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that > > liked us > > > > > and > > > > > > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i > > wasn't > > > > > > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm > > > > > MEDICATED. > > > > > > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. > it is > > > > > > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i > don't > > > > > know > > > > > > > what to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bink > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 i know there are lots of posts that say this, but i just want to reiterate that it is so great to have a place i can come where people understand what i'm talking about. thanks guys. bink > > > > hey guys. long time, no type. > > > > right now, i'm extremely lc with mom. i don't know what her health > > problems are and she calls like 4x a month, but i usually only talk > > to or see her about 1x a month. this thanksgiving, she said she > was > > just going to stay home because she didn't want to drive anywhere. > > i'm like, ok. well, my dad's thanksgiving was pretty close to her > > house, so my husband was like, " you should go see your mom. it IS > > thanksgiving. " i was like, fine. whatever. > > > > so we go there and she's completely drunk. i just got so freaking > > angry, but didn't say anything because there's no reason to argue > > with a drunk person. so my husband is talking to her and trying to > > get her to come with us to his mom's house. i'm thinking WHAT ARE > > YOU DOING! later he said that he just felt so bad for her. i was > > like, " dude, i am NOT driving her around town. period. " anyway, > at > > a certain point, she decided that she was going to tell me stuff > > about myself that i apparently wasn't privy to. my husband kind of > > put his arm around her to hold her back and she claimed that > he " hit > > her in the face. " this lead to her chasing him around the front > yard > > and hitting him. she was playing around, but jeeeeeeeezus. then > he > > jumped over the garden to get to the porch and she fell down in the > > garden and made a big deal about how he had pushed her into the > > garden. and then she was getting ready to bite him and i was like, > > WE'RE LEAVING. > > > > the whole thing took 15 mins. > > > > i saw her at a dinner on the following sunday and she looked like > she > > was injured. i didn't ask. found out later that after she had > > chased my husband around, she had fallen AGAIN on some hard surface > > and really screwed her back up. > > > > i have absolutely no sympathy for her. > > > > i have been feeling really depressed since this. i cannot get over > > the feeling that all of this is pointless and there is absolutely > no > > reason to do anything. i feel isolated at work. i was working in > > the same hall as my best pal, but they changed my classroom this > year > > and it's really hard to connect with anyone in my hall. teaching > is > > so draining. i was horrified to find that i wasn't shocked when > one > > of my students told me she had been molested by her step father. i > > am so tired. tired and stressed and anxious. i cannot relax > > anywhere. > > > > people picture me as this happy-go-lucky slacker because i'm always > > joking around and i can't focus. the truth is that if i wasn't > > joking around, i would be a completely suicidal mess. i can't > focus > > because i spent so long waiting for the other shoe to drop with mom > > that it's just natural now to constantly look over my shoulder. > > > > my best pal blames all this on crazy mothers. i have to agree with > > him. i can't buy into anything. i mean, i don't buy into any > reason > > to work for anything. i don't feel like i really make a difference > > at my job. i don't believe in any higher being that will make sure > > justice is done. i don't trust anybody. and i guess it all makes > > sense when you take into acount the fact that my mom was a big, > crazy > > liar launching smear attacks against the relatives that liked us > and > > jealously hating us if we showed these relatives any attention. > > > > i feel like i am a constant drain on my husband. i wish i wasn't > > this depressed all the time. the scary thing is that i'm > MEDICATED. > > i am taking antidepressants and i still feel like this. it is > > getting harder and harder to get out of bed every day. i don't > know > > what to do. > > > > bink > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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