Guest guest Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Hi Sunny, I agree with you completely. I think MD's have a very vital role to play in medicine where emergency lifesaving techniques are required...things like heart attacks, strokes, knife wounds, gunshots, accident victims, and such. But I think they are way behind knowledge and understanding of long term diseases, prevention of degenerative disease, nutrition and toxicity. I think natural medicine beats them hands down on this one. There have been some amazing recoveries with detoxification and natural therapies. One of my favorite books is by Dr. Weil, called Natural Health, Natural Medicine. I highly recommend it. I also believe that there are bad doctors in the natural medicine field as well, who want to throw every new and cutting edge idea at you without really knowing the long term results. I had one of those. You just have to know how to handle these guys. You have to know where to draw the line. I don't want new and cutting edge. I want ages old, proven through time, safe and effective therapies. It's amazing that these are the cheap ones! They can't make money on something that has been around for centuries I guess. So, eveything has its place. It's too bad so many doctors don't recognize this and choose to speak so disparagingly of alternative medicine--one of their most often used lines is that it does not have research to back it up. But the question I have for them is this--just who is going to research something that does not have profit potential behind it? Nobody! So the research doesn't get done, it's not ever going to get done. Does that make the therapy invalid? No way. Anecdotal evidence MUST be given its credibility, it MUST have a place. Otherwise we lose. There must be freedom in the pursuit of the healing arts. The Master Cleanse is one of the first things my naturopath put me on. It was amazing. I still do this cleanse from time to time. I'm so glad you did it too and found it to be amazingly effective! It's cheap, it's simple, it's effective. What more could you ask for? Patty Sunny <wellnessnow@...> wrote: Patty, I've seen with my own little brown eyes, the wonderful experience of detoxing with The Master Cleanse. I only did 10 days and it changed my life incredibly. One must experience something before it is a reality sometimes. For me, I have experienced, seen first-hand, and had the honor of working with Alternative Doctors who have saved many lives, when MD's had told them they had six months to live! I respect the role of medical doctors, as well. As I have said previously, I had two life saving surgeries,and my grandson had 9, but I'm into prevention and that's where the future is leading to. Even one of my doctors on the West Coast used to ask me when I came to see him, "Have you tried everything you can at home?" Cool. We need more of that.Love,Sunny > > > > > > I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I don't have> > > fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has recognized FMS and CFS as legitimate> > > disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS besides> > > symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of "tender points" on the body. If a> > > person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively diagnosed with> > > FMS. I have those 18 points and I never knew what they were, thought they were> > > invisible bruises!> > > > > > There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a disturbance in> > > phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in a system-wide> > > cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the body. His> > > protocol, guaifenesin, purports to regulate phosphate excretion and thus allow> > > cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying it, but still> > > haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with it (small meals,> > > lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies).> > > > > > Anyone else tried this?> > > > > > Bindi> > > > > > Bindi> > > Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness> > > > > > > > > Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any form of> > > definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient has> > > certain> > > symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As such,> > > there> > > are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors believe that> > > those> > > of us who have fibro will always have it because they don't understand> > > the> > > reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason I had> > > fibro> > > is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. Cleaning up my> > > liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took changing> > > my> > > diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was totally> > > symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily.> > > > > > Kenda> > > > > >> I was just curious if having fibromyalgia-like symptoms during and after> > >> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women who are> > >> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are told that they will "always have it" and that> > >> it "can't be cured, only managed." This is what I have been told.> > >> I just don't know whether I should just accept it and stop "waiting" to get> > >> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and other symptoms> > >> are> > >> temporary.> > >> > > >> I'm ten months out, and though I feel far better now than with implants, I> > >> still have a lot of muscle and joint pain and I'm exhausted all the time. I> > >> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, or I suffer> > >> for> > >> days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical post-implant recovery symptoms?> > >> > > >> Bindi> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> --> > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.> > > > > >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Patty, you said alot of good things in this message. The word " simplify " has come up at our last family meeting, as my son & wife are going into Youth Ministry, and all 4 children in school, 3 special needs kids at that. We talked about all the labels and names there are for viruses, diseases, etc. Now (8) has been diagnosed with mild Tourettes. Great. At least they're willing to take alternative routes, as my daughter-in-law was brought up very much believing in doctors. Her Mom has alot of fears and would run to the doc with every sniffle. She's come a long way, however, and we all work together to help the kids, and ourselves. Tom Woloshyn, in , B.C. is the fellow who trained me re: The Master Cleanse, Color Therapy, and Colon Lifting. He still does awesome work and has people coming to him all the time told they have 6 months to live. May God bless us all in our educational endeavours, that less men, women and children need suffer. Loving the SIMPLE life, Sunny > > > > > > > > I hear you on this one, and believe me, I want to believe it I > don't have > > > > fibro. It's interesting, the WHO has recognized FMS and CFS as > legitimate > > > > disorders. They do have a specific method of diagnosing FMS > besides > > > > symptomology: they map eighteen pairs of " tender points " on the > body. If a > > > > person has these eighteen painful areas, they are positively > diagnosed with > > > > FMS. I have those 18 points and I never knew what they were, > thought they were > > > > invisible bruises! > > > > > > > > There is one researcher who says that FMS is caused by a > disturbance in > > > > phosphate metabolism, causing phosphate build-up, resulting in > a system-wide > > > > cell energy deprivation. It can be triggered by trauma to the > body. His > > > > protocol, guaifenesin, purports to regulate phosphate excretion > and thus allow > > > > cells to generate energy properly. I've been thinking of trying > it, but still > > > > haven't. He usually recommends a hypoglycemic diet along with > it (small meals, > > > > lean protien, complex carbs, lots of vegies). > > > > > > > > Anyone else tried this? > > > > > > > > Bindi > > > > > > > > Bindi > > > > Re: Fibro or Breast Implant Illness > > > > > > > > > > > > Fibromyalgia is a diagnosis of symptoms, rather than by any > form of > > > > definitive testing. Doctors give this diagnosis when a patient > has > > > > certain > > > > symptoms but no other disease to account for the symptoms. As > such, > > > > there > > > > are many reasons that people have fibro. I think doctors > believe that > > > > those > > > > of us who have fibro will always have it because they don't > understand > > > > the > > > > reason we get it. Even though I was never implanted, the reason > I had > > > > fibro > > > > is likely the same reason women here do, liver toxicity. > Cleaning up my > > > > liver cured me and I believe it can for women here too. It took > changing > > > > my > > > > diet and diligent detoxing for a couple of years before I was > totally > > > > symptom free. I still take detox supplements daily. > > > > > > > > Kenda > > > > > > > >> I was just curious if having fibromyalgia-like symptoms during > and after > > > >> having implants is the same as having fibromyalgia? Most women > who are > > > >> diagnosed with fibroyalgia are told that they will " always > have it " and that > > > >> it " can't be cured, only managed. " This is what I have been > told. > > > >> I just don't know whether I should just accept it and > stop " waiting " to get > > > >> better, or if it is possible that these aches and pains and > other symptoms > > > >> are > > > >> temporary. > > > >> > > > >> I'm ten months out, and though I feel far better now than with > implants, I > > > >> still have a lot of muscle and joint pain and I'm exhausted > all the time. I > > > >> have to be really careful to monitor how much energy I expend, > or I suffer > > > >> for > > > >> days. Typical fibro symptoms, or typical post-implant recovery > symptoms? > > > >> > > > >> Bindi > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to- > Phone call rates. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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