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Gallbladder stones are formed from stagnant bile. Bile is not only

made up of cholesterol but also water, bile salts, and ribi-something-

or-other. You may have good cholesterol but a lack of bile salts or

water in your bile would promote stones as well. Also, a sluggish

gallbladder, or diseased gb walls may be the cause of stones.

Otherwords, the bile is good but the organ isn't functioning 100%.

I've heard that taking Lecithin will thin out your bile so that it

won't coagulate for future stones. Proper dieting is important.

Flushing the old stuff out and taking care of the future is the road

to take.

Good luck.

Barry.

> I have recently been diagnosed with gallstones - post hysterectomy

> and lipomaectomy - I have never had high cholesterol, and my LDL

has

> always been exemplary - what is up with this? This is truly the

> never ending surgical experience ... any one out there have a

similar

> experience?

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My HDL was always low, although high now. What was yours? That is an

important lipoprotein. It helps clear away 'bad fats'. Do you have attacks?

laura

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I had no health/weight problems prior to my hysterectomy - post hysterectomy,

I have narrowed arteries, high blood pressure, gall stones & high cholesterol

as well as thyroid problems, hence weight gain with a vengeance. Yes I think

I can say I have a similar experience.

nne

> I have recently been diagnosed with gallstones - post hysterectomy

> and lipomaectomy - I have never had high cholesterol, and my LDL has

> always been exemplary - what is up with this? This is truly the

> never ending surgical experience ... any one out there have a similar

> experience?

>

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My Rheumy started me on the TNF drugs right away and I have had very little

permanent damage. There are a lot of side effects with MTX. Although there

could be some long term complications with the TNF drugs, for me the

positives outweigh the negatives.

I am not sure if you are a man or a woman, but MTX is not recommended for

women of childbearing years, which I am. I recommend you research all of

the options.

--- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , " wenden11 " <wenden11@y...>

wrote:

> New to group and recently diagnosed. After initial visits to two

> different rheumatologists, seems the " front-line thing to do " is

> begin taking methotrexate which I'm starting this weekend.

> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who began this way--how it

> felt--I'm scared of course. I've never been big on the medical

> establishment way of throwing pharmaceuticals at you until

> something sticks-let alone listening to patients who like to do

> some research on their own:)

> I'm also interested in the diet/nutritional aspects of dealing with

> RA-since they have no idea what causes RA or how to cure

> it-can't hurt, eh? (so to speak).

> So--is it just all downhill from here, adding med after med until

> you're taking everything under the sun? Or trying one after

> another?

> Blessings to all, and thanks for responses.

> Wen

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So far I've been very lucky with MTX. No

side effects until my dosage was upped to 7 pills a week. Then I was

tired and had nausea but it has gone away. Friday I start with 8 pills

a week. When I first started taking it I was scared because of it

being a chemo drug too. Been taking it since 1994 and I don't think

there are any plans on my going off of it any time soon :-(

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My Rheumy started me on the TNF drugs right away and I have had very little permanent damage. There are a lot of side effects with MTX. Although there could be some long term complications with the TNF drugs, for me the positives outweigh the negatives.

I am not sure if you are a man or a woman, but MTX is not recommended for women of childbearing years, which I am. I recommend you research all of the options.

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Dear Wen- I think starting you on MTX is a good way to start. I was started on Plaquenil then prednisone. MTX alone wont stop the disease, only modify it. I think maybe the Dr. wants you to start on MTX and then add a biologic which should stop the disease process. Depending on your response, other meds may or may not be needed. Treatment is based on your test results and how you are feeling. You learn early on when you are diagnosed, that quality of life is what matters to doctors. Keeping you as symptom free as possible is and should always be at the forefront of your treatment, and keep you living as close to a normal life as possible. Be well, Deborah

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> So far I've been very lucky with MTX. No side effects until my dosage was upped to 7 pills a week. Then I was tired and had nausea but it has gone away. Friday I start with 8 pills a week. When I first started taking it I was scared because of it being a chemo drug too. Been taking it since 1994 and I don't think there are any plans on my going off of it any time soon :-(

I was wondering if the shots have fewer side effects, like nausea.

Nina

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Methotrexate affects sperm also and men should be off it for quite a while, perhaps six months, before trying to conceive. God bless.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 5:32 PM

Subject: Re: Recent diagnosis

My Rheumy started me on the TNF drugs right away and I have had very little permanent damage. There are a lot of side effects with MTX. Although there could be some long term complications with the TNF drugs, for me the positives outweigh the negatives.I am not sure if you are a man or a woman, but MTX is not recommended for women of childbearing years, which I am. I recommend you research all of the options.> New to group and recently diagnosed. After initial visits to two > different rheumatologists, seems the "front-line thing to do" is > begin taking methotrexate which I'm starting this weekend.> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who began this way--how it > felt--I'm scared of course. I've never been big on the medical > establishment way of throwing pharmaceuticals at you until > something sticks-let alone listening to patients who like to do > some research on their own:)> I'm also interested in the diet/nutritional aspects of dealing with > RA-since they have no idea what causes RA or how to cure > it-can't hurt, eh? (so to speak).> So--is it just all downhill from here, adding med after med until > you're taking everything under the sun? Or trying one after > another?> Blessings to all, and thanks for responses.> Wen

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I started on MTX I was on pills till I maxed them out then I went on

shots I didn't have any side effects of any kind it worked for aa

long time then it quit working all together so I went on Plaquenil

and imuran and remicade so far that seems to be working for me good

luck to you and your RA I am not doing to well with mine I hope you

have better luck take care Sherrie

> New to group and recently diagnosed. After initial visits to two

> different rheumatologists, seems the " front-line thing to do " is

> begin taking methotrexate which I'm starting this weekend.

> I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who began this way--how it

> felt--I'm scared of course. I've never been big on the medical

> establishment way of throwing pharmaceuticals at you until

> something sticks-let alone listening to patients who like to do

> some research on their own:)

> I'm also interested in the diet/nutritional aspects of dealing

with

> RA-since they have no idea what causes RA or how to cure

> it-can't hurt, eh? (so to speak).

> So--is it just all downhill from here, adding med after med until

> you're taking everything under the sun? Or trying one after

> another?

> Blessings to all, and thanks for responses.

> Wen

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Hi ,

I agree. I was put on TNFs 6 months after I was dx'd and I also have very little permanent damage. Even though I am of child bearing age I still take metho, since I'm not planning on getting pregnant anytime soon, if ever.

By the way, metho is not recommended for men of child bearing age either.

Steph in VA~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>My Rheumy started me on the TNF drugs right away and I have had very little>permanent damage. There are a lot of side effects with MTX. Although there>could be some long term complications with the TNF drugs, for me the>positives outweigh the negatives.>>I am not sure if you are a man or a woman, but MTX is not recommended for>women of childbearing years, which I am. I recommend you research all of>the options.>>

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My rheumy took a long and conservative route when treating me. I was on

prednisone, plaquenil, mtx and a combination of other drugs before he

finally put me on a biologic two years after being diagnosed. I think

he did it partially for insurance reasons, but the result is that I

have quite a bit of damage in my right foot and am now looking at

surgery. I started on Enbrel for 3 months, switched to Humira for

almost two years and am now on Remicade. While my disease seems pretty

much under control, part of me wishes that I had gone on the stronger

drugs earlier to save my foot.

gloria

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From: dbargad@...

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:12:35 EDT

Subject: Re: Recent diagnosis

Dear Wen- I think starting you on MTX is a good way to start. I was

started on Plaquenil then prednisone. MTX alone wont stop the disease,

only modify it. I think maybe the Dr. wants you to start on MTX and

then add a biologic which should stop the disease process. Depending on

your response, other meds may or may not be needed. Treatment is based

on your test results and how you are feeling. You learn early on when

you are diagnosed, that quality of life is what matters to doctors.

Keeping you as symptom free as possible is and should always be at the

forefront of your treatment, and keep you living as close to a normal

life as possible. Be well, Deborah

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Responses from Sierra:

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> > New to group and recently diagnosed. After initial visits to two

> > different rheumatologists, seems the " front-line thing to do " is

> > begin taking methotrexate which I'm starting this weekend.

> > I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who began this way--how it

> > felt--I'm scared of course.

I've had great results from methotrexate--have been on it a year, and

feel nearly normal again. Have had minimal side effects, just

tiredness the next day (no nausea), and lab tests have been normal.

I recommend drinking a lot of water to help flush it from your system.

I've never been big on the medical

> > establishment way of throwing pharmaceuticals at you until

> > something sticks-let alone listening to patients who like to do

> > some research on their own:)

You may find this experience changes the way you think about the

medical establishment. It did for me. I'm grateful for the wonderful

help I've received.

> > I'm also interested in the diet/nutritional aspects of dealing

with

> > RA-since they have no idea what causes RA or how to cure

> > it-can't hurt, eh? (so to speak).

I think it's wise to look at improving health from all angles,

including diet. Lots of people with RA report food sensitivities.

> > So--is it just all downhill from here, adding med after med until

> > you're taking everything under the sun?

Expect to feel a lot better in a few months; most people respond to

treatment.

> > Blessings to all, and thanks for responses.

> > Wen

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> Dear Wen- I think starting you on MTX is a good way to start. I

was

> started on Plaquenil then prednisone. MTX alone wont stop the

disease, only modify

> it.

Deborah

From what I've read, MTX can both slow and halt prgression.

Sierra

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Gloria i started the harder drugs early on and I still had to have

an ankle fusin my ankle was bone on bone and hurt like crazy i could

hardly walk it hurt that bad good luck with your ankle

Sherrie

> My rheumy took a long and conservative route when treating me. I

was on

> prednisone, plaquenil, mtx and a combination of other drugs before

he

> finally put me on a biologic two years after being diagnosed. I

think

> he did it partially for insurance reasons, but the result is that

I

> have quite a bit of damage in my right foot and am now looking at

> surgery. I started on Enbrel for 3 months, switched to Humira for

> almost two years and am now on Remicade. While my disease seems

pretty

> much under control, part of me wishes that I had gone on the

stronger

> drugs earlier to save my foot.

>

> gloria

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: dbargad@a...

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Sent: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 02:12:35 EDT

> Subject: Re: Recent diagnosis

>

> Dear Wen- I think starting you on MTX is a good way to start.

I was

> started on Plaquenil then prednisone. MTX alone wont stop the

disease,

> only modify it. I think maybe the Dr. wants you to start on MTX

and

> then add a biologic which should stop the disease process.

Depending on

> your response, other meds may or may not be needed. Treatment is

based

> on your test results and how you are feeling. You learn early on

when

> you are diagnosed, that quality of life is what matters to

doctors.

> Keeping you as symptom free as possible is and should always be at

the

> forefront of your treatment, and keep you living as close to a

normal

> life as possible. Be well, Deborah

>

> --------

>

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Hello Wenden ,

For me its been all down hill and the meds are trial and error i dont think you'll be on more than 3 not counting predisone if your dr will give it to you a lot will not , other than sterrodiod packs . MTX over 6 pills prob. should be spilt up half one time and the other half later unless you where told diff. by your dr . thats what mine had me doing at 8 pills . well it makes me very tired is all but the diease does to so who knows i end up sleeping most of the weekend but my flairs i'm a sleep to i think i'm in one big flair all the time my remicaid didnt even bring me out of it yet i had it on the 15 this month .

later johnwenden11 <wenden11@...> wrote:

New to group and recently diagnosed. After initial visits to two different rheumatologists, seems the "front-line thing to do" is begin taking methotrexate which I'm starting this weekend.I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who began this way--how it felt--I'm scared of course. I've never been big on the medical establishment way of throwing pharmaceuticals at you until something sticks-let alone listening to patients who like to do some research on their own:)I'm also interested in the diet/nutritional aspects of dealing with RA-since they have no idea what causes RA or how to cure it-can't hurt, eh? (so to speak).So--is it just all downhill from here, adding med after med until you're taking everything under the sun? Or trying one after another?Blessings to all, and thanks for

responses.Wen__________________________________________________

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