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Hi. I'm glad that overall things are going well for you. I didn't realize

you were going to be taking all the other stuff as well, so my personal

experience might not be too helpful at this time! But I'll offer what I can

anyway.

When you say you're more constipated (yes - you'll get used to writing about

those things out here! <grin>), do you mean that you FEEL constipated - or

just that you haven't been having bowel movements? During a fast a person

usually does still have bowel movements, but they would be different than

when consuming 3 meals a day. So if they've just slowed down I wouldn't be

too concerned about it (except that I don't know what effect all the other

stuff is supposed to be having...).

I was going to recommend apple juice, but I see that you're already doing

that. Perhaps just the apple juice and not mixing it with the prune juice?

Just a thought... Beet juice usually has that kind of effect for me also -

but don't take it straight!! Are you combining all those things that you

mentioned - or just having a variety of them each day? Can you get pears

where you are? Pear juice is supposed to be helpful as well.

This could just be a part of the body's process, also. It's hard to say -

especially since I'm not clear yet on whether it's an uncomfortable type

problem or just a slowdown in bowel movements. Under ordinary

circumstances it's considered healthy to have 2-3 bowel movements a day, but

when you're not taking in as much, it's understandable that the output would

be decreased as well. During a fast - especially an extended fast - the

body alters somewhat in it's processing. If you aren't physically

uncomfortable (constipation means different things to different people), then

maybe it's just not time yet for a bm. Again, under normal circumstances I

would be very concerned about a lack of bowel movements, but when there's not

as much for it to move - that's a different story.

Now, as to the Epsom Salts - if there is anything in there to be moved - yes,

the ES would likely move it on out! If you're physically uncomfortable and

feeling like there is blockage - that might be the way to go. Personally, I

would probably wait it out. But that's just me - and the way I do things

isn't necessarily right for someone else!

Maybe someone who is familiar with all the other stuff you're taking will be

of more help to you! Please keep us posted, okay?

Mine had to be postponed, by the way. I thought I had written about that out

here, but maybe I hadn't. I'm looking to start it on Wednesday, but will

let you know for sure.

in health,

In a message dated 2/8/02 5:56:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> I was actually going to do a post on this today so fab timing and thankyou

> for asking! The actual juicing process is going very well but I'm a little

> concerned about the results so far. If anything I'm a little

> more...sorry...constipated! (can't think of a nicer alternative word and

> still very uncomfortable writing about 'bodily functions'!). I'm taking

> Gold

> Coin Grass before breakfast, Superfood in the morning juice, Uno's

> Essential

> Oil in my afternoon juices, Para X parasite killer as recommended

> throughout

> the day and Coptis before I go to bed.

> Basically having fruit juices in the morning, vegetable juices between 1pm

> and 5pm (such as carrots, beetroot, ginger, celery, cabbage, lemon) and

> then

> fruit juices from 6pm until 8pm (including apples and prune juice). Not

> much

> happening at all (considering I thought this was a 'bowel cleanse'). Has

> anyone any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or not taking properly??? Has

> anyone found a brilliant 'bowel cleansing juice recipe'. Can't get hold of

> fresh organic prunes (all have some sort of preservative added) so trying

> to

> think of an alternative.Would taking a course of just Epsom Salts this

> weekend help to get everything moving?

> Planning to do this for between 2 to 4 weeks to begin with and then do Dr

> e's liver cleanse (have a 17mm calcified stone in my GB and expecting

> to have hundreds in my liver!)

> Feeling full of energy and 'clear headed' but worried that I'm going to be

> just as 'bunged up' as I was before doing the juicing and want to be clear

> as possible before the kidney and liver cleanses. Any ideas very much

> appreciated!

>

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Are you also drinking a good amount of water along with the juices? That's

one question I forgot to ask before.

If you're really that concerned about a bowel movement, then maybe Epsom

Salts are the way to go. (You know they aren't my preference, but that

doesn't mean I don't acknowledge their usefulness!) The last thing that you

want is to get stressed out about this. That can undermine your progress.

If it will ease your mind to do the ES routine, then maybe that's what you

need to do. Another possibility is doing an enema. Have you tried that?

It isn't as awful as it might sound! :)

Rest assured, though, that just because you aren't seeing things eliminated

at this point in time doesn't mean that you're doing something wrong. The

body can do a lot in there before we see the result of it in the toilet bowl.

You've given your body an amazing opportunity to turn it's focus to healing

and cleansing and it's going to do it in it's own time schedule. :)

In a message dated 2/8/02 7:14:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> Thankyou so much for your advise - really does help knowing people are out

> there going through the same types of scenarios! Just wanted to quickly

> answer your questions, firstly, that I'm not feeling any side effects due

> to

> the constipation (never ever had regular movements before all this anyhow -

> can be upto 3 days and thats with 'normal eating'). Have had movement

> during

> the week but really did think the bowel cleanse (especially with fruits)

> would do the opposite!

>

> I'm tending to mix the fruits in the morning and some evening ones

> together:

> oranges,apples, pineapple, mango, blackcurrants, etc, but the vegetable

> juices I am trying to do set combinations such as (carrot and beetroot)

> (carrot, celery and cabbage) etc.

>

> I've just read fantastic things about bowel cleansing (especially along

> with

> Parasite killer)and a little worried that I'm doing something wrong. I do

> feel great though and good luck with yours - I think half the battle is

> finding the right time to undertake these 'programs' to enable its success!

>

>

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One last thought before I leave for work. :) What about a castor oil

pack? Have you tried this yet? It really helps with circulation and can

get the blood moving and might very well help with your situation.

I think that's the end of my ideas. :)

in health,

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Hi ,

I was actually going to do a post on this today so fab timing and thankyou

for asking! The actual juicing process is going very well but I'm a little

concerned about the results so far. If anything I'm a little

more...sorry...constipated! (can't think of a nicer alternative word and

still very uncomfortable writing about 'bodily functions'!). I'm taking Gold

Coin Grass before breakfast, Superfood in the morning juice, Uno's Essential

Oil in my afternoon juices, Para X parasite killer as recommended throughout

the day and Coptis before I go to bed.

Basically having fruit juices in the morning, vegetable juices between 1pm

and 5pm (such as carrots, beetroot, ginger, celery, cabbage, lemon) and then

fruit juices from 6pm until 8pm (including apples and prune juice). Not much

happening at all (considering I thought this was a 'bowel cleanse'). Has

anyone any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or not taking properly??? Has

anyone found a brilliant 'bowel cleansing juice recipe'. Can't get hold of

fresh organic prunes (all have some sort of preservative added) so trying to

think of an alternative.Would taking a course of just Epsom Salts this

weekend help to get everything moving?

Planning to do this for between 2 to 4 weeks to begin with and then do Dr

e's liver cleanse (have a 17mm calcified stone in my GB and expecting

to have hundreds in my liver!)

Feeling full of energy and 'clear headed' but worried that I'm going to be

just as 'bunged up' as I was before doing the juicing and want to be clear

as possible before the kidney and liver cleanses. Any ideas very much

appreciated!

How did yours go?

Michele

-----Original Message-----

From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 3:16 am

gallstones

Subject: juice fast

In a message dated 2/7/02 4:47:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> I'm using Para X at the moment (just finishing the first week of it)

along

> with a juice fast

Michele

How is your juice fast going so far???

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Hi ,

Thankyou so much for your advise - really does help knowing people are out

there going through the same types of scenarios! Just wanted to quickly

answer your questions, firstly, that I'm not feeling any side effects due to

the constipation (never ever had regular movements before all this anyhow -

can be upto 3 days and thats with 'normal eating'). Have had movement during

the week but really did think the bowel cleanse (especially with fruits)

would do the opposite!

I'm tending to mix the fruits in the morning and some evening ones together:

oranges,apples, pineapple, mango, blackcurrants, etc, but the vegetable

juices I am trying to do set combinations such as (carrot and beetroot)

(carrot, celery and cabbage) etc.

I've just read fantastic things about bowel cleansing (especially along with

Parasite killer)and a little worried that I'm doing something wrong. I do

feel great though and good luck with yours - I think half the battle is

finding the right time to undertake these 'programs' to enable its success!

I'll keep you posted but hoping that if others have any hints - please

please please let me know!!

Thanks in advance,

Michele

-----Original Message-----

From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 11:33 am

gallstones

Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

Hi. I'm glad that overall things are going well for you. I didn't realize

you were going to be taking all the other stuff as well, so my personal

experience might not be too helpful at this time! But I'll offer what I

can

anyway.

When you say you're more constipated (yes - you'll get used to writing about

those things out here! <grin>), do you mean that you FEEL constipated - or

just that you haven't been having bowel movements? During a fast a person

usually does still have bowel movements, but they would be different than

when consuming 3 meals a day. So if they've just slowed down I wouldn't be

too concerned about it (except that I don't know what effect all the other

stuff is supposed to be having...).

I was going to recommend apple juice, but I see that you're already doing

that. Perhaps just the apple juice and not mixing it with the prune juice?

Just a thought... Beet juice usually has that kind of effect for me also -

but don't take it straight!! Are you combining all those things that you

mentioned - or just having a variety of them each day? Can you get pears

where you are? Pear juice is supposed to be helpful as well.

This could just be a part of the body's process, also. It's hard to say -

especially since I'm not clear yet on whether it's an uncomfortable type

problem or just a slowdown in bowel movements. Under ordinary

circumstances it's considered healthy to have 2-3 bowel movements a day, but

when you're not taking in as much, it's understandable that the output would

be decreased as well. During a fast - especially an extended fast -

the

body alters somewhat in it's processing. If you aren't physically

uncomfortable (constipation means different things to different people),

then

maybe it's just not time yet for a bm. Again, under normal circumstances I

would be very concerned about a lack of bowel movements, but when there's

not

as much for it to move - that's a different story.

Now, as to the Epsom Salts - if there is anything in there to be moved -

yes,

the ES would likely move it on out! If you're physically uncomfortable and

feeling like there is blockage - that might be the way to go. Personally, I

would probably wait it out. But that's just me - and the way I do things

isn't necessarily right for someone else!

Maybe someone who is familiar with all the other stuff you're taking will be

of more help to you! Please keep us posted, okay?

Mine had to be postponed, by the way. I thought I had written about that

out

here, but maybe I hadn't. I'm looking to start it on Wednesday, but will

let you know for sure.

in health,

In a message dated 2/8/02 5:56:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> I was actually going to do a post on this today so fab timing and thankyou

> for asking! The actual juicing process is going very well but I'm a little

> concerned about the results so far. If anything I'm a little

> more...sorry...constipated! (can't think of a nicer alternative word and

> still very uncomfortable writing about 'bodily functions'!). I'm taking

> Gold

> Coin Grass before breakfast, Superfood in the morning juice, Uno's

> Essential

> Oil in my afternoon juices, Para X parasite killer as recommended

> throughout

> the day and Coptis before I go to bed.

> Basically having fruit juices in the morning, vegetable juices between 1pm

> and 5pm (such as carrots, beetroot, ginger, celery, cabbage, lemon) and

> then

> fruit juices from 6pm until 8pm (including apples and prune juice). Not

> much

> happening at all (considering I thought this was a 'bowel cleanse'). Has

> anyone any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or not taking properly??? Has

> anyone found a brilliant 'bowel cleansing juice recipe'. Can't get hold of

> fresh organic prunes (all have some sort of preservative added) so trying

> to

> think of an alternative.Would taking a course of just Epsom Salts this

> weekend help to get everything moving?

> Planning to do this for between 2 to 4 weeks to begin with and then do Dr

> e's liver cleanse (have a 17mm calcified stone in my GB and expecting

> to have hundreds in my liver!)

> Feeling full of energy and 'clear headed' but worried that I'm going to be

> just as 'bunged up' as I was before doing the juicing and want to be clear

> as possible before the kidney and liver cleanses. Any ideas very much

> appreciated!

>

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Hi ,

You are a gem! Think I needed to hear all this as I was becoming quite

stressed about it all! You might have hit the nail on the head with the

water question - never have drunk alot of it in the past and must admit I

keep forgetting to at work during the day. So, that is the first additional

activity I shall make sure I do! (Probably played a very large role in the

whole problem with gallstones and general run down of my digestive system!)

Regarding enemas - they scare the pants off me! Never heard of anyone in

England doing these at home until I 'discovered' information on cleanses,

although 'colonic irragation' at assigned clinics seems to becoming more

popular. Have you ever done these? Did you have to buy special kit?

(therefore very good chance that this wont be available over here!)

Thanks again for all your help and assuring words - very much appreciated!

Kind regards,

Michele

-----Original Message-----

From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 12:27 pm

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

Are you also drinking a good amount of water along with the juices?

That's

one question I forgot to ask before.

If you're really that concerned about a bowel movement, then maybe Epsom

Salts are the way to go. (You know they aren't my preference, but that

doesn't mean I don't acknowledge their usefulness!) The last thing that

you

want is to get stressed out about this. That can undermine your progress.

If it will ease your mind to do the ES routine, then maybe that's what you

need to do. Another possibility is doing an enema. Have you tried that?

It isn't as awful as it might sound! :)

Rest assured, though, that just because you aren't seeing things

eliminated

at this point in time doesn't mean that you're doing something wrong. The

body can do a lot in there before we see the result of it in the toilet

bowl.

You've given your body an amazing opportunity to turn it's focus to

healing

and cleansing and it's going to do it in it's own time schedule. :)

In a message dated 2/8/02 7:14:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> Thankyou so much for your advise - really does help knowing people are

out

> there going through the same types of scenarios! Just wanted to quickly

> answer your questions, firstly, that I'm not feeling any side effects

due

> to

> the constipation (never ever had regular movements before all this

anyhow -

> can be upto 3 days and thats with 'normal eating'). Have had movement

> during

> the week but really did think the bowel cleanse (especially with fruits)

> would do the opposite!

>

> I'm tending to mix the fruits in the morning and some evening ones

> together:

> oranges,apples, pineapple, mango, blackcurrants, etc, but the vegetable

> juices I am trying to do set combinations such as (carrot and beetroot)

> (carrot, celery and cabbage) etc.

>

> I've just read fantastic things about bowel cleansing (especially along

> with

> Parasite killer)and a little worried that I'm doing something wrong. I

do

> feel great though and good luck with yours - I think half the battle is

> finding the right time to undertake these 'programs' to enable its

success!

>

>

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Not yet - but I have been trying to track castor oil down in my small town!

On the case though and thankyou!!!!

Best wishes,

Michele

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From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 12:38 pm

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

One last thought before I leave for work. :) What about a castor oil

pack? Have you tried this yet? It really helps with circulation and can

get the blood moving and might very well help with your situation.

I think that's the end of my ideas. :)

in health,

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Michele-

I know you adressed your questions to , but I just wanted to ask if you've

considered doing an enema at the beginning of your fast? Excuse me for getting

personal, but just wanted

to say I've done them with just warm distilled water, or a good cleansing one

has the juice of a lemon in it. It cleans the lower bowel out and sort of

clears a path for when you fast

on juice or eat high fiber foods. Whenever I feel sluggish, or eat more meat

than usual or feel like more should be coming out....., I do an enema and eat

only fresh fruits and

vegetables for a couple of days to get back to normal. I don't do them very

often, maybe 3 or 4 my whole life, but it helps me start off on the right foot

sometimes when I want to purge

my system. It's amazing what can stay in the gut for days on end.

Janet

Michele Vaudin wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I was actually going to do a post on this today so fab timing and thankyou

> for asking! The actual juicing process is going very well but I'm a little

> concerned about the results so far. If anything I'm a little

> more...sorry...constipated! (can't think of a nicer alternative word and

> still very uncomfortable writing about 'bodily functions'!). I'm taking Gold

> Coin Grass before breakfast, Superfood in the morning juice, Uno's Essential

> Oil in my afternoon juices, Para X parasite killer as recommended throughout

> the day and Coptis before I go to bed.

> Basically having fruit juices in the morning, vegetable juices between 1pm

> and 5pm (such as carrots, beetroot, ginger, celery, cabbage, lemon) and then

> fruit juices from 6pm until 8pm (including apples and prune juice). Not much

> happening at all (considering I thought this was a 'bowel cleanse'). Has

> anyone any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or not taking properly??? Has

> anyone found a brilliant 'bowel cleansing juice recipe'. Can't get hold of

> fresh organic prunes (all have some sort of preservative added) so trying to

> think of an alternative.Would taking a course of just Epsom Salts this

> weekend help to get everything moving?

> Planning to do this for between 2 to 4 weeks to begin with and then do Dr

> e's liver cleanse (have a 17mm calcified stone in my GB and expecting

> to have hundreds in my liver!)

> Feeling full of energy and 'clear headed' but worried that I'm going to be

> just as 'bunged up' as I was before doing the juicing and want to be clear

> as possible before the kidney and liver cleanses. Any ideas very much

> appreciated!

> How did yours go?

>

> Michele

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

> Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 3:16 am

> gallstones

> Subject: juice fast

>

> In a message dated 2/7/02 4:47:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> michele_vaudin@... writes:

>

> > I'm using Para X at the moment (just finishing the first week of it)

> along

> > with a juice fast

>

> Michele

> How is your juice fast going so far???

>

>

>

>

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Hi Janet - thankyou!!! Right, you've all got me thinking on enemas and

colonic irragation now! Going to see whats needed this weekend and probably

have to ask some questions when I'm back to work on Monday (and my

computer!).

Thankyou!

Michele

-----Original Message-----

From: Janet [mailto:taylorj@...]

Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 4:33 pm

gallstones

Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

Michele-

I know you adressed your questions to , but I just wanted to ask if

you've considered doing an enema at the beginning of your fast? Excuse me

for getting personal, but just wanted

to say I've done them with just warm distilled water, or a good cleansing

one has the juice of a lemon in it. It cleans the lower bowel out and sort

of clears a path for when you fast

on juice or eat high fiber foods. Whenever I feel sluggish, or eat more

meat than usual or feel like more should be coming out....., I do an enema

and eat only fresh fruits and

vegetables for a couple of days to get back to normal. I don't do them

very often, maybe 3 or 4 my whole life, but it helps me start off on the

right foot sometimes when I want to purge

my system. It's amazing what can stay in the gut for days on end.

Janet

Michele Vaudin wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> I was actually going to do a post on this today so fab timing and

thankyou

> for asking! The actual juicing process is going very well but I'm a

little

> concerned about the results so far. If anything I'm a little

> more...sorry...constipated! (can't think of a nicer alternative word and

> still very uncomfortable writing about 'bodily functions'!). I'm taking

Gold

> Coin Grass before breakfast, Superfood in the morning juice, Uno's

Essential

> Oil in my afternoon juices, Para X parasite killer as recommended

throughout

> the day and Coptis before I go to bed.

> Basically having fruit juices in the morning, vegetable juices between

1pm

> and 5pm (such as carrots, beetroot, ginger, celery, cabbage, lemon) and

then

> fruit juices from 6pm until 8pm (including apples and prune juice). Not

much

> happening at all (considering I thought this was a 'bowel cleanse'). Has

> anyone any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or not taking properly??? Has

> anyone found a brilliant 'bowel cleansing juice recipe'. Can't get hold

of

> fresh organic prunes (all have some sort of preservative added) so

trying to

> think of an alternative.Would taking a course of just Epsom Salts this

> weekend help to get everything moving?

> Planning to do this for between 2 to 4 weeks to begin with and then do

Dr

> e's liver cleanse (have a 17mm calcified stone in my GB and

expecting

> to have hundreds in my liver!)

> Feeling full of energy and 'clear headed' but worried that I'm going to

be

> just as 'bunged up' as I was before doing the juicing and want to be

clear

> as possible before the kidney and liver cleanses. Any ideas very much

> appreciated!

> How did yours go?

>

> Michele

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

> Sent: Friday, 08 Feb 2002 3:16 am

> gallstones

> Subject: juice fast

>

> In a message dated 2/7/02 4:47:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> michele_vaudin@... writes:

>

> > I'm using Para X at the moment (just finishing the first week of it)

> along

> > with a juice fast

>

> Michele

> How is your juice fast going so far???

>

>

>

>

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Michele, I have an idea for when you want to cleanse your colon. You can make it

a day or a few days. And gets more out if you have a colema board to use. The

recipe uses alot of apple juice, clay water and psyllium and supplements or

wheat grass juice. But really works. Let me know if you want the recipe and I'll

send it. I've posted it before. Now to what you are at present doing. Sounds

wonderful. I may do a similar routine, but not as much of a fast. Just

incorporate in my diet. Did you get the idea for the coin grass and coptis from

Chang? I'm researching Chang and have posted (was possibly another list) to find

out what others think about her site and herbs, etc. So let me know I'll be very

interested. of Dewberry Hill

I was actually going to do a post on this today so fab timing and thankyou

for asking! The actual juicing process is going very well but I'm a little

concerned about the results so far. If anything I'm a little

more...sorry...constipated! (can't think of a nicer alternative word and

still very uncomfortable writing about 'bodily functions'!). I'm taking Gold

Coin Grass before breakfast, Superfood in the morning juice, Uno's Essential

Oil in my afternoon juices, Para X parasite killer as recommended throughout

the day and Coptis before I go to bed.

Basically having fruit juices in the morning, vegetable juices between 1pm

and 5pm (such as carrots, beetroot, ginger, celery, cabbage, lemon) and then

fruit juices from 6pm until 8pm (including apples and prune juice). Not much

happening at all (considering I thought this was a 'bowel cleanse'). Has

anyone any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or not taking properly??? Has

anyone found a brilliant 'bowel cleansing juice recipe'. Can't get hold of

fresh organic prunes (all have some sort of preservative added) so trying to

think of an alternative.Would taking a course of just Epsom Salts this

weekend help to get everything moving?

Planning to do this for between 2 to 4 weeks to begin with and then do Dr

e's liver cleanse (have a 17mm calcified stone in my GB and expecting

to have hundreds in my liver!)

Feeling full of energy and 'clear headed' but worried that I'm going to be

just as 'bunged up' as I was before doing the juicing and want to be clear

as possible before the kidney and liver cleanses. Any ideas very much

appreciated!

How did yours go?

Michele

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out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there

is alight within. " -Kubler Ross

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followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. "

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In a message dated 8/2/02 10:56:49 GMT Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

You should not mix fruit and veg juices together, have you thought about

having fruit one day and veg the next. Something to do with the digestive

system that they don't work well together, the only fruit you can mix with

veg is apple apparently, sorry can't be more specific.

Are you having a good variety of all fruit & veg?

Hope this can help.

nne

> Any ideas very much

> appreciated!

>

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In a message dated 2/8/02 7:44:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> Think I needed to hear all this as I was becoming quite

> stressed about it all! You might have hit the nail on the head with the

> water question - never have drunk alot of it in the past and must admit I

> keep forgetting to at work during the day. So, that is the first additional

> activity I shall make sure I do!

Hi

I know you wont' get this until Monday, but I just wanted to check in and see

if the water helped. Any improvement yet???

in health,

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Are you also having grapefruit to help the liver? It sounds like you are

having a very good mix but you must add some greenery - watercress, lettuce,

etc. just to ensure that you are getting all the vitamins and minerals that

you need. No point in making yourself ill when a couple of additions will

help keep you healthy. I love carrot, beetroot & watercress (more carrot

than the others) together, tastes nice and crisp and refreshing.

nne

> I am drinking a wide variety of juice, but have been concentrating on the

> 'colon cleansing boosters' (ie apples, prunes and pears) as well as the

> 'liver helpers' (such as radishes, beetroot, celery, carrot, ginger etc). I

> have also stated taking Lethicin to help the bile consistency.

>

>

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Hi nne,

Thankyou for the tip. I was aware of not mixing fruit and vegetables as I

have been a firm follower of the diet previous to all this and one of

its main principles is not to mix fruit and veg together (due to fruit being

the fastest 'food type' to pass through the stomach and enters the intestine

ready for digestion within 20 - 45 mins). So, I thought it would be fine to

have just fruit or veg juices on the same day, but not in the same

'sitting/juice'. I always make sure a good 2 hours have passed before

switching over from fruit to veg and vice versa and therefore not allowing

the juices to mix. I will give this further thought though and perhaps try

fruits one day and veg the next.

I am drinking a wide variety of juice, but have been concentrating on the

'colon cleansing boosters' (ie apples, prunes and pears) as well as the

'liver helpers' (such as radishes, beetroot, celery, carrot, ginger etc). I

have also stated taking Lethicin to help the bile consistency.

Many thanks,

Michele

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From: marianne2406@... [mailto:marianne2406@...]

Sent: Saturday, 09 Feb 2002 7:37 pm

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

In a message dated 8/2/02 10:56:49 GMT Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

You should not mix fruit and veg juices together, have you thought about

having fruit one day and veg the next. Something to do with the digestive

system that they don't work well together, the only fruit you can mix with

veg is apple apparently, sorry can't be more specific.

Are you having a good variety of all fruit & veg?

Hope this can help.

nne

> Any ideas very much

> appreciated!

>

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Hi ,

Thanks for asking! Well, doubled my water intake and also bought the natural

laxative cascara which I took on Sat night. Ummm...not that much difference

apart from alot of water rather than bm's! If it wasn't for my appalling

track record of bm frequency (normally every 3 days!) I would think my colon

was pretty 'clean'- but my instincts tell me I'm exceedingly 'bunged up'.

So...now looking into doing home enemas and what I need for this as a 'home

kit'.

Until then, I shall continue with the quantities of water! Good luck with

your juicing - are you starting this week?

Many thanks,

Michele

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From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

Sent: Sunday, 10 Feb 2002 1:54 am

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

In a message dated 2/8/02 7:44:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> Think I needed to hear all this as I was becoming quite

> stressed about it all! You might have hit the nail on the head with the

> water question - never have drunk alot of it in the past and must admit

I

> keep forgetting to at work during the day. So, that is the first

additional

> activity I shall make sure I do!

Hi

I know you wont' get this until Monday, but I just wanted to check in and

see

if the water helped. Any improvement yet???

in health,

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Yep - sure am having grapefruit- lovely in the morning juice with 2

tablespoons of Superfood (mixture of 12 different grasses and algae to

promote liver function etc). Eating spinach, cabbage and parsely on occasion

too just to make sure of taking in enough 'greens'. Thanks for the tip on

watercress though - sounds lovely!

Many thanks,

Michele

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From: marianne2406@... [mailto:marianne2406@...]

Sent: Monday, 11 Feb 2002 12:06 pm

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

Are you also having grapefruit to help the liver? It sounds like you are

having a very good mix but you must add some greenery - watercress,

lettuce,

etc. just to ensure that you are getting all the vitamins and minerals

that

you need. No point in making yourself ill when a couple of additions will

help keep you healthy. I love carrot, beetroot & watercress (more carrot

than the others) together, tastes nice and crisp and refreshing.

nne

> I am drinking a wide variety of juice, but have been concentrating on

the

> 'colon cleansing boosters' (ie apples, prunes and pears) as well as the

> 'liver helpers' (such as radishes, beetroot, celery, carrot, ginger

etc). I

> have also stated taking Lethicin to help the bile consistency.

>

>

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Superfood is sold in the UK by a company who apparently works very closely

with Dr Schulze (a juicing expert). I take it once a day (2 level

tablespoons in fruit juice) and can help with cleansing etc. Here's their

website:

http://www.herbs-hands-healing.co.uk/superfood/superfood.html

Hope this helps,

Michele

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From: marianne2406@... [mailto:marianne2406@...]

Sent: Monday, 11 Feb 2002 1:09 pm

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

Where do you get your Superfood from and how often do you take it?

nne

>

> tablespoons of Superfood (mixture of 12 different grasses and algae to

> promote liver function etc).

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Tastes a bit odd but you do get used to it and not half as bad as some of

the other chinese potions I'm taking!

Regards,

Michele

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From: marianne2406@... [mailto:marianne2406@...]

Sent: Monday, 11 Feb 2002 2:20 pm

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Thanks for the site Michele - it looks brilliant.

nne

> http://www.herbs-hands-healing.co.uk/superfood/superfood.html

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michele_vaudin@... writes:

> Thanks for asking! Well, doubled my water intake and also bought the natural

> laxative cascara which I took on Sat night. Ummm...not that much difference

> apart from alot of water rather than bm's! If it wasn't for my appalling

> track record of bm frequency (normally every 3 days!) I would think my

> colon

> was pretty 'clean'- but my instincts tell me I'm exceedingly 'bunged up'.

> So...now looking into doing home enemas and what I need for this as a 'home

> kit'.

> Until then, I shall continue with the quantities of water! Good luck with

> your juicing - are you starting this week?

>

Well, doubling your water intake is undoubtedly helping with flushing the

toxins, even if you aren't seeing bms yet. Hopefully the enemas will help,

once you get the stuff you need to do them. Any luck with that yet?

As for my juice fast - I had fully planned to start it today - and I did,

actually, but I'm having second thoughts about continuing. To be honest,

I've been driving myself nuts with the back-and-forth about whether it's a

good time for me to be doing this. I was SO confident about it, but now it

just doesn't feel right. So...the bottom line is that I have no idea what

I'm doing. Thanks for asking.

in health,

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Hi ,

(sorry - got this one after replying to your last!). Sorry to hear your in

such dilemma regarding the timing of your juicing. I was exactly the same

when I first started, thinking that I didn't have time to fast, it was too

much too soon and with a couple of operations looming up at the end of this

month, I was really worried (vivid dreams each night) this would somehow

effect the anaesthetic and that I'de die under the knife! It just felt

wrong, until I started really researching the juicing 'concept' and how it

can be fitted into everyday life and help improve it! And it has! Its got to

feel right for you though (its 'hard enough' to do without battling with own

doubts) and dont feel pressured to having to do it at this stage. Good luck

if you do decide to continue (perhaps do a few days and see how you feel?)

and thanks for all your support.

Kind regards,

Michele

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From: Rachd1961@... [mailto:Rachd1961@...]

Sent: Thursday, 14 Feb 2002 1:54 am

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Subject: Re: juice fast...HELP!

michele_vaudin@... writes:

> Thanks for asking! Well, doubled my water intake and also bought the

natural

> laxative cascara which I took on Sat night. Ummm...not that much

difference

> apart from alot of water rather than bm's! If it wasn't for my appalling

> track record of bm frequency (normally every 3 days!) I would think my

> colon

> was pretty 'clean'- but my instincts tell me I'm exceedingly 'bunged

up'.

> So...now looking into doing home enemas and what I need for this as a

'home

> kit'.

> Until then, I shall continue with the quantities of water! Good luck

with

> your juicing - are you starting this week?

>

Well, doubling your water intake is undoubtedly helping with flushing the

toxins, even if you aren't seeing bms yet. Hopefully the enemas will

help,

once you get the stuff you need to do them. Any luck with that yet?

As for my juice fast - I had fully planned to start it today - and I did,

actually, but I'm having second thoughts about continuing. To be honest,

I've been driving myself nuts with the back-and-forth about whether it's a

good time for me to be doing this. I was SO confident about it, but now

it

just doesn't feel right. So...the bottom line is that I have no idea

what

I'm doing. Thanks for asking.

in health,

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