Guest guest Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 Hi Joanne and all. I buy my milk from a local farmers market. They buy from a dairy farm whose products are from grass fed jersey cows and they don't homogenize the milk - like people can't shake the carton! Although they can't sell raw,(which raw proponents call live milk), they only heat it to 140 degrees which is minimum standard. The ultra-high pasteurization (180+) kills absolutely every good enzyme and probiotic so that it's worthless. Live milk people say that if you feed a calf ultra-high pasteurized milk they die. That should tell the government it's wrong. I also found out that a grain fed cow with e-coli will become e-coli free after 1 week being grass fed. That's amazing! Big agra-business lobbyists are ruining our food sources by feeding our animals unnaturally in order to sell their corn and grain. Cows are meant to eat grass - they're forage animals. I don't know if all the stuff they do wrong with milk is what makes you and others not be able to use it. I drink whole, grass-fed milk from Jersey cows. It actually has some cream on top. I also buy their cream, cheese, and butter. The farmers market also sells bacon from Ohio from an Amish farm, but unfortunately they use nitrates too. Amazingly, the products aren't even expensive. Everyone should check for local farmer's markets and see what they sell. I'd like to share with you, and your readers, smart farming and the way things should be done for the benefit of all: land, animals, and people. Here's a journalist's view: If that link doesn't work, it's a YouTube video and you can put in the YouTube search box Pollan On Salatin's Polyface. This is Salatin's way - which seems to be the way for healthy meat production. If that doesn't work put Salatin of Polyface Farms discusses grass-fed cattle. All the videos on him are worth watching. God bless everyone with His grace and healing love. Sent from my iPhone > > > Raw milk in your area? > > http://www.realmilk.com/where05.html#ms > > Raw milk still needs to be fermented with yogurt culture for 36 hours. And all dairy even raw dairy really should be avoided until some recover seen. Only then will you be able to see if it is a problme > > Love Joanne > > PS I think some of these links are providing cheese and cream too > > ________________________________ > > To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > > Cc: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > > Sent: Friday, 13 January 2012, 5:02 > Subject: Re: : Weston Price Diet > > > > My daughter has fibro, but I feel I may be coming > down with it too. The only way I could ever > hope to get her to eat like this is to do it myself > and be successful at it. I started low carb a couple > of days ago and went into ketosis today. Amazingly, > all my joint pains went away and my rosacea has calmed > down very much. I don't have access to raw milk > but a local dairy has unhomogenized, and low > temperature pasteurization cream line milk. that's > The best I can find as raw milk is illegal to sell > where I live in the state of Mississippi in the US - intrusive > nanny government and all. > > I made my first loaf of sourdough bread from > a two week old starter I made. Tonight I watched > A YouTube video from by dieteasily where she showed > how to sprout wheat berries to use with the starter. > I plan to see if I can incorporate that into my eating and if I can > stay pain free I'll use that in my low carb diet. If not, > then back to no bread. I should say that I found low > carb pita at Walmart by the deli. I did get to ketosis using > 3 per day. They're made with flax, whole wheat, oat bran, and > they're only 6 carbs. I made pizzas with picante, mozzarella, pepperoni, scrambled egg and breakfast sausage, and open faced roasted venison on them. YouTube is full of low carb recipes - thank God - because it's > easier to think of what to eat using their ideas. I even found > recipes to make my own yoghurt which came > out great and I froze a bunch of them. > > Thank you for your dedication to this cause. I've learned > a lot from the videos you've posted links to - I think > I'm a visual learner and its been easier because > of your hard work. > > My daughter is 39 and she lives with me. She > became disabled after a bad bout with Cipro > for a urinary infection that has left her in constant > pervasive pain. She couldn't possibly work any > longer. I feel so bad for people who must work with > this horrible condition. I'm hoping to find a way > to manage the pain because the heavy pharmaceuticals > she's on don't actually remove the pain. > > May God bless us all and keep us in constant care. He wants > us endure to the end and not lose hope. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > Hi > > > > My children and husband are on the Weston Price diet and they eat a Ukrainian sourdough bread made with rye, and using raw milk we make yogurt. I cannot have the bread, but I can have the yogurt > > > > I might actually be able to digest the bread now, but would not try because the carbs would still be too high and they would bring me out of ketosis, but I understand fully where you are coming from > > > > Newcomers would be much better off on these foods, but most are so very very ill, even buying something they have never tried before wrapped in a packet is very hard for them to do. so what I do is say, if you have never eaten low carb before, buy the Atkins book and follow that diet for a month or so, whilst you get your blood sugars down. I then say go on Bees candida diet with all the supplements, and if at all possible with your carbs below 15g, and then when I have them on board I then go about showing them the articles and links that illustrate the value of fermenting sprouting and soaking > > > > I know this might sound like a very laborious way to get around to things, but I know how terribly debilitating this illness can be for some folk and the low dopamine that occurs with this illness deminishes motivation for such things. Doctors have them on mind numbing drugs and many are totally addicted to carbs > > > > I explain from the start that this addiction to carb has to be beaten, and really all their addictions have to be overcome, and getting off most f their meds in most cases is also very important, but each person has to do all this at their own rate > > > > I know there is tonnes of stuff in the Atkins diet that is no good to us, and so long as folk are using it they cannot get well, but just getting carbs down to between 30g and 50g does usually make a difference on brain fog. When they see this they do get more motivated. I then say either just eat only natural foods or wean onto Bees candida foods, depending on the persons circumstances > > > > To be honest a lot just go straight for Bees diet, no messing and do really well and then go on and learn all the fermenting soaking, sprouting stuff themselves, others need help, I just try to see where a person is at and work with them from there. As long as folk keep coming back here every day for at least an hour they will find the right spot for them. > > > > On Bees site they would go batty if they new I was telling folk the Atkns diet is a good route to this, but if we are honest most folk do find the Paleo diet, weston price diet bees diet etc after starting the Atkins. The Atkins book is very easy to read and the products are available at the supermarket, so in two or three days most folk can be on board with that. bees diet is obviously stricter, and it requires buying off the Internet and so on, and the Weston Price diet requires buying from farms and so on. But these latter two diets are far far far superior to the Atkins diet, in regards to healing, and folk here do know this is my view > > > > Hope this all makes better sense. I do know it confuses thing when I tell folk the Atkins is OK, but for may at the beginning it is the only realistic option > > > > Love Joanne > > > > > > said................... > > > > Have you researched real sourdough? > > I've made a starter out of rye and am > > making a loaf of bread out of stone > > ground whole wheat. The natural yeasts > > that have formed in the starter are beneficial > > just like the cultures in yoghurt. The Weston Price > > diet advocates both as beneficial. Do you have > > an opinion? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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