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I don`t know what to say.You made me cry happy tears.Thankyou,and i`m not going

anywhere.Hard to get on sometimes.

>

> Tina

>

> It is my view that CFS and Fibro are similar conditions to ADHD and Autism.

The main difference is that we being from the last generation and our mothers

not exposed to the same level of toxicity as we have been, we did have some gut

bacteria and therefore developed more normally whne younger, but many children

being born today to women that have these illnesses are actually being born with

a far worse gut state than we were and further more they are immediately after

birth being introduced to toxins ie via milk formula, mothers milk which is

toxic from the diet, immunizations, antibiotics and so forth, hense we see the

epidemics of these illnesses in children and they appear more severe than what

say I and others here experienced as children. We know we had these illnesses or

a similar thing, some of that is not all of us, but we perhaps did not have them

at the same level as is appearing in this generation

>

> I also believe CFS Fibro and similar illnesses are a pre-alzheimers

pre-parkinsons or pre-cancer state, and perhaps other degenerative illnesses too

>

> We are all on a continuum and this is why the therapies that work for one

illness are working for them all, they are essentially the same thing, caused by

the same things and that is poor diet, high toxicity, medications that interfer

with gut bacteria and the immune system and stress

>

> All of us as mothers, and carers really need to get to grips with Bees work,

the Weston Price foundation studies and the GAPS diet. These organisations have

already figured out what we need to know and to be honest beyond what these

websites are saying there is not a great deal more we need to know because these

women, these mothers have cracked it

>

> This is not a genetic thing it is a generational thing being passed down not

by us, not by our genes, nor by our infections, it is being passed down because

the food chain and the toxicity in our environment is weakening the gut and if a

person has a weak gut they will have a weak immunity and that weak immunity

leads to degeneration in the brain, nervous system and else where. If we rebuild

the gut using the correct nutrition and avoiding the toxicity that all these

fantastic scientists keep giving us, we will all get well, and our children will

get well and the coming generations in our families will be well also, and from

this we can then pass this on to other mothers

>

> But this is where we need to start with the mothers. The mother has to be the

rock of the family the happy at peace rock, not the driven to distraction rock.

we have to be the one that is well, because when we are well we can move

mountains much more easily than we can when we are poorly

>

> I do not use anything other than the diet to get me well keep me well. I use

NLP and stuff to assist the healing but it is only assisting, it is not curing.

the diet is not just curing the illness it is taking away my future illnesses

too. My family all have Parkinsons or other low dopamine illnesses. I first

managed to reverse this in me and from that learning have been able to heal the

others

>

> I do hope this is making sense. I do know this sounds too good to be true but

there are women, mothers, all over this internet who have got themselves well

and cured their family with the diet alone

>

> I love you so and I know you deserve this, please please please stay with us,

you are a good good woman

>

> Love joanne

>

>

>

>

>

> Tina said...............

>

>

>

>  

> Yes,this looks simular.

>

> .........................................t part of my NLP thing includes eye

rolling. I dont have a great video of this but this one is similar to what I do.

> >

> >

> >

> > I no longer need glasses and I feel my right brain speaks to my left brain

and visa versa, so much better

> >

> > Love Joanne

> >

> >

>

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I know what you are saying.I am kind of going through this with my husband and

my family.They don`t go along with what i`m doing.Last night we got into it.My

salvation,is him going to work,becasue i don`t want to be around him all the

time.It is stressfull.When he was on vacation,the same time the kids were

home,after 2 weeks,i`m lucky to have any sanity left.If he decides to leave me,I

don`t care.As far as how it will affect my daughter,I care about that,but,even

if i`m poor,and have piece,that is better to me.I`m not the wife he

wants.Someone too stay in the kitchen all day,baking from scrath and be ready to

put out when he walks through the door.I have been 26 years raising kids.18 with

a special needs child and had a late in life baby.I`m not spending all my free

time in the kitchen.Don`t know where I would go though,if we break up.I have not

worked in years.Finding childcare would not be easy to get a job.My son is

almost a legal adult,so I would be paying for adult care and child care,and that

would take my whole paycheck,or probably cost more than I even would make.If,I

get anyone to call me at all.If you have been out of work for along time,they

don`t even bother with you.

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 7:18:14 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

Tina

I am experiencing some of the same right now. My mom and sister are refusing to

buy my dad things he needs and everything is getting muddled up down there, I

just have to let it go. It weighs heavy on my heart but people just dont get it,

and I cannot make them understand. If I try to, everybody gangs up against me

and I am doubly hurt. This is why I focus more on my own health than anybody

elses. It sounds selfish but it is not. There are vunerable people in my family

who rely on me for help. These other people that get in my way do not see that

if I was not there they would have to do the work, but anyway, I have to let

that go too

The thing is as I recover and I get well, I feel much calmer and happier and as

I do I can cope better with all the carry on from others, and I can think

straight too

Your son does not have seizures now and that indicates to me that his toxicity

has gone from his brain, perhaps it is only gut issues he actually has now. In

time you might be able to make small adjustments that help with this but for now

I would not worry too much, like you have said school will not help, I know this

I see it all the time on the GAPs board

My niece, she is 11 years old and a little over weight, she is diabetic insulin

dependent, she keeps asking me about the diet but I cannot really tell her much.

Her mom is my sister and she lives with her and my mom, if I get involved there

will be hell to pay not just for me but for her too if she listens to me, and so

I have to let that go too

Family do not see what a burden they can

be.............................................. but I have to let that go.

Tina, I have seen more shrinks than I care to remember regarding the dysfunction

in my family. I am not seeing any more !!!!!!!

And so I busy body about, do what I can and then let go. I have to sustain my

own sanity and that is a full time job in itself.

I am going out today with my dog. I was supposed to go on the market but got up

late. that is from spending too much time with my dad

yesterday................... see the slipperly slopes!!!!!

and this is how other folks illness can have us, all intense sad and serious,

angry at the  world and no peace. But I am having peace regardless!!!!! I only

have one life and I have to make it mine. I am a good person with good intention

and a big heart and very capable too, but in this crazy world often that is not

enough and so I do my best and then have to say Lord I have done my best, now it

is over to you

Love joanne

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 11:40

Subject: Re: Tina MSG and glutamate

 

Years ago,I went to a DAN practioner and had him on different diets,but,he is a

picky eater.Since my husnand has the food he wants in the house, will get

into it.I had him on an Adkins type diet for years trying to get rid of

candida.Another problem is school,where they go out in the community and take

them out to eat.They don`t always fowwow the diet.He gets new teachers and AIds

and they don`t know his diet.The only way he is getting glutamate is if it is in

the french fires he gets.I don`t know if I can get him off them.He is nearly

grown,so helps himself to what he wants.Got into it with my husband last

night.Had to go out of town for vision therapy.Was late getting home.Had my eye

dialated.Getting some new glasses.I know,I should be doing the exercises

too.Takes along time to do them with my daughter.I need tinted lenses for my

light sensitivity.It is better with coconut oil,but I still have it.I`m thinking

my kids will need tinted lenses for

the Irlens syndrome.

>

> Tina

>

> http://www.msgtruth.org/autism.htm

>

> This article explains how MSG can raise glutamate in the nervous system and

>worsen fight or flight, Autism Epilepsy etc, it also affects CFS and Fibro

>

> MSG and glucose both raise glutamate

>

> Glutamate is excitory and my experience with it is that it wore me into the

>ground. My mind would not switch off and my nervous system was wrecked with it

>

> Ketosis is how I escaped this madness, but even before ketosis I found some

>relief simply low carbing

>

> I low carbed with the Atkins diet and I still to this day think the Atkins

diet

>is helpful, but many of the foods on the Atkins diet contain MSG and for this

>reason it is only really any good when weaning dwonwards

>

> The GAPS diet does not contain MSG foods and in the main Natashas foods are

>also low carb so they also help lower glucose which as I have already explained

>is another substance that can easily raise glutamate in the nervous system.

What

>I am not crazy on wiht the GAPs diet is natasha is allowing juicing and nuts

>

> Although I did use fruit and nuts to wean downwards on the carbs and although

I

>do think these foods are better than grain, my experieince with nuts and fruits

>is that really we need to limit them, and most folk do better going without

them

>for a while. Both Bee and Natash explain in some detail how to prepare these

>foods for eating. I cannot recall everything that Natasha says but Bee tells us

>to only have lemon juice and limit that and she tells us to stay off nuts until

>we are well and then if we want to try them if we soak them and roast them they

>will be easier to digest

>

> Anyway, clearly all this takes a lot of reading and it is hard to make sense

of

>it all since they are saying different, but generally speaking a low carb diet

>and low MSG and other foods, both of which Bee and Natasha list is the right

way

>to go. BUT, Autistic children, as you know resist change and this is something

>you would have to do slowly. There are now quit a few GAPS practitioners on the

>Internet

>

> http://gaps.me/preview/?page_id=496

>

> My experience is only with adults and I have no experience at all with autism.

>All I know is that Bees diet and the GAPs diet works for Autism and the

>illnesses on the Autism spectrum list and they work for Fibro CFS and other

>autoimmune illnesses. So I can share what I know but really with Autistic

>children or even Autistic adults the advice of a fully trained practitioner

>would be more correct than what I can tell you

>

> Love Joanne

>

>

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She does nt even know how to use a computer.She was a teacher,but hasn`t taught

for 20 years.Her husband has this old dinasaur of a computer,it is his.When she

has tried to get on it,she keeps getting pop ups and doesn`t know how to get

them off.I have offfered to help,but,it seems,she always has an excuse,or she

doesn`t feel good.I know,she probably doesn`t feel good,but,she had a lot of

good days there for awhile,she could have got on then.I don`t know,if she will

do the diet.She grew up on potatoes and mac and cheese.Everyone around her eats

the foods she loves and hard for her to stop eating them.Hard for me,but,I think

the being in pain for 20 years might be evenough to motivate me to try it.I

mentioned something to her about what Jesus says to getting well.Prayer and

fasting?Her father is a pastor,so she knows what he says.Funny,to me,how these

pastors and people that grew up in the church know so little about healthy

food.Her dad has parkinson`s.None of them try fasting,or eating healthy or

prganic.I know it can be expensive,but cutting out all the junk food helps save

money like you said,but I can`t get my husband to eat this way,so I have to buy

and prepare seperate meals.So does she.

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 7:32:21 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

I know what you are saying.I am kind of going through this with my husband and

my family.They don`t go along with what i`m doing.Last night we got into it.My

salvation,is him going to work,becasue i don`t want to be around him all the

time.It is stressfull.When he was on vacation,the same time the kids were

home,after 2 weeks,i`m lucky to have any sanity left.If he decides to leave me,I

don`t care.As far as how it will affect my daughter,I care about that,but,even

if i`m poor,and have piece,that is better to me.I`m not the wife he

wants.Someone too stay in the kitchen all day,baking from scrath and be ready to

put out when he walks through the door.I have been 26 years raising kids.18 with

a special needs child and had a late in life baby.I`m not spending all my free

time in the kitchen.Don`t know where I would go though,if we break up.I have not

worked in years.Finding childcare would not be easy to get a job.My son is

almost a legal adult,so I would be paying for adult care and child care,and that

would take my whole paycheck,or probably cost more than I even would make.If,I

get anyone to call me at all.If you have been out of work for along time,they

don`t even bother with you.

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 7:18:14 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

Tina

I am experiencing some of the same right now. My mom and sister are refusing to

buy my dad things he needs and everything is getting muddled up down there, I

just have to let it go. It weighs heavy on my heart but people just dont get it,

and I cannot make them understand. If I try to, everybody gangs up against me

and I am doubly hurt. This is why I focus more on my own health than anybody

elses. It sounds selfish but it is not. There are vunerable people in my family

who rely on me for help. These other people that get in my way do not see that

if I was not there they would have to do the work, but anyway, I have to let

that go too

The thing is as I recover and I get well, I feel much calmer and happier and as

I do I can cope better with all the carry on from others, and I can think

straight too

Your son does not have seizures now and that indicates to me that his toxicity

has gone from his brain, perhaps it is only gut issues he actually has now. In

time you might be able to make small adjustments that help with this but for now

I would not worry too much, like you have said school will not help, I know this

I see it all the time on the GAPs board

My niece, she is 11 years old and a little over weight, she is diabetic insulin

dependent, she keeps asking me about the diet but I cannot really tell her much.

Her mom is my sister and she lives with her and my mom, if I get involved there

will be hell to pay not just for me but for her too if she listens to me, and so

I have to let that go too

Family do not see what a burden they can

be.............................................. but I have to let that go.

Tina, I have seen more shrinks than I care to remember regarding the dysfunction

in my family. I am not seeing any more !!!!!!!

And so I busy body about, do what I can and then let go. I have to sustain my

own sanity and that is a full time job in itself.

I am going out today with my dog. I was supposed to go on the market but got up

late. that is from spending too much time with my dad

yesterday................... see the slipperly slopes!!!!!

and this is how other folks illness can have us, all intense sad and serious,

angry at the  world and no peace. But I am having peace regardless!!!!! I only

have one life and I have to make it mine. I am a good person with good intention

and a big heart and very capable too, but in this crazy world often that is not

enough and so I do my best and then have to say Lord I have done my best, now it

is over to you

Love joanne

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 11:40

Subject: Re: Tina MSG and glutamate

 

Years ago,I went to a DAN practioner and had him on different diets,but,he is a

picky eater.Since my husnand has the food he wants in the house, will get

into it.I had him on an Adkins type diet for years trying to get rid of

candida.Another problem is school,where they go out in the community and take

them out to eat.They don`t always fowwow the diet.He gets new teachers and AIds

and they don`t know his diet.The only way he is getting glutamate is if it is in

the french fires he gets.I don`t know if I can get him off them.He is nearly

grown,so helps himself to what he wants.Got into it with my husband last

night.Had to go out of town for vision therapy.Was late getting home.Had my eye

dialated.Getting some new glasses.I know,I should be doing the exercises

too.Takes along time to do them with my daughter.I need tinted lenses for my

light sensitivity.It is better with coconut oil,but I still have it.I`m thinking

my kids will need tinted lenses for

the Irlens syndrome.

>

> Tina

>

> http://www.msgtruth.org/autism.htm

>

> This article explains how MSG can raise glutamate in the nervous system and

>worsen fight or flight, Autism Epilepsy etc, it also affects CFS and Fibro

>

> MSG and glucose both raise glutamate

>

> Glutamate is excitory and my experience with it is that it wore me into the

>ground. My mind would not switch off and my nervous system was wrecked with it

>

> Ketosis is how I escaped this madness, but even before ketosis I found some

>relief simply low carbing

>

> I low carbed with the Atkins diet and I still to this day think the Atkins

diet

>

>is helpful, but many of the foods on the Atkins diet contain MSG and for this

>reason it is only really any good when weaning dwonwards

>

> The GAPS diet does not contain MSG foods and in the main Natashas foods are

>also low carb so they also help lower glucose which as I have already explained

>is another substance that can easily raise glutamate in the nervous system.

What

>

>I am not crazy on wiht the GAPs diet is natasha is allowing juicing and nuts

>

> Although I did use fruit and nuts to wean downwards on the carbs and although

I

>

>do think these foods are better than grain, my experieince with nuts and fruits

>is that really we need to limit them, and most folk do better going without

them

>

>for a while. Both Bee and Natash explain in some detail how to prepare these

>foods for eating. I cannot recall everything that Natasha says but Bee tells us

>to only have lemon juice and limit that and she tells us to stay off nuts until

>we are well and then if we want to try them if we soak them and roast them they

>will be easier to digest

>

> Anyway, clearly all this takes a lot of reading and it is hard to make sense

of

>

>it all since they are saying different, but generally speaking a low carb diet

>and low MSG and other foods, both of which Bee and Natasha list is the right

way

>

>to go. BUT, Autistic children, as you know resist change and this is something

>you would have to do slowly. There are now quit a few GAPS practitioners on the

>Internet

>

> http://gaps.me/preview/?page_id=496

>

> My experience is only with adults and I have no experience at all with autism.

>All I know is that Bees diet and the GAPs diet works for Autism and the

>illnesses on the Autism spectrum list and they work for Fibro CFS and other

>autoimmune illnesses. So I can share what I know but really with Autistic

>children or even Autistic adults the advice of a fully trained practitioner

>would be more correct than what I can tell you

>

> Love Joanne

>

>

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I know there was story not too long ago of this care provider that robbed a lot

money from the old man she was caring for.She had worked at a local photography

studio.She took a lot of photos of my daughter.Then,the store kicked them

out.Not sure why.I am afraid of abuse,which is why,I have not had respite

care,and the thought of a group home,scare me to death.Especially,since he has

no form of communication.The thing is,people are toxic ticking timb bombs.Eating

GMOS and processed food,and not sure they could handle a meltdown.Maybe,they

would just be cruel for no reason.I don`t trust very many people.I`m not going

to be able to take care of him forever.I`m pushing 50 now.Do I feel confident,he

would be ok in a group home?No,but not much I can do about it.

> >

> > Tina

> >

> > http://www.msgtruth.org/autism.htm

> >

> > This article explains how MSG can raise glutamate in the nervous system and

> >worsen fight or flight, Autism Epilepsy etc, it also affects CFS and Fibro

> >

> > MSG and glucose both raise glutamate

> >

> > Glutamate is excitory and my experience with it is that it wore me into the

> >ground. My mind would not switch off and my nervous system was wrecked with

it

> >

> > Ketosis is how I escaped this madness, but even before ketosis I found some

> >relief simply low carbing

> >

> > I low carbed with the Atkins diet and I still to this day think the Atkins

diet

> >is helpful, but many of the foods on the Atkins diet contain MSG and for this

> >reason it is only really any good when weaning dwonwards

> >

> > The GAPS diet does not contain MSG foods and in the main Natashas foods are

> >also low carb so they also help lower glucose which as I have already

explained

> >is another substance that can easily raise glutamate in the nervous system.

What

> >I am not crazy on wiht the GAPs diet is natasha is allowing juicing and nuts

> >

> > Although I did use fruit and nuts to wean downwards on the carbs and

although I

> >do think these foods are better than grain, my experieince with nuts and

fruits

> >is that really we need to limit them, and most folk do better going without

them

> >for a while. Both Bee and Natash explain in some detail how to prepare these

> >foods for eating. I cannot recall everything that Natasha says but Bee tells

us

> >to only have lemon juice and limit that and she tells us to stay off nuts

until

> >we are well and then if we want to try them if we soak them and roast them

they

> >will be easier to digest

> >

> > Anyway, clearly all this takes a lot of reading and it is hard to make sense

of

> >it all since they are saying different, but generally speaking a low carb

diet

> >and low MSG and other foods, both of which Bee and Natasha list is the right

way

> >to go. BUT, Autistic children, as you know resist change and this is

something

> >you would have to do slowly. There are now quit a few GAPS practitioners on

the

> >Internet

> >

> > http://gaps.me/preview/?page_id=496

> >

> > My experience is only with adults and I have no experience at all with

autism.

> >All I know is that Bees diet and the GAPs diet works for Autism and the

> >illnesses on the Autism spectrum list and they work for Fibro CFS and other

> >autoimmune illnesses. So I can share what I know but really with Autistic

> >children or even Autistic adults the advice of a fully trained practitioner

> >would be more correct than what I can tell you

> >

> > Love Joanne

> >

> >

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If I have the holy spirit in me,it is because you have helped more than anyone I

have ever met,to put him there.

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 11:45:49 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

Tina

I know what you mean about church folk not knowing about food. I am fortunate

that my priest does. He has celiac and eats much the same way as me. he has had

cancer 3 times but made excellent recoveries every time. He is 70 years old but

has the manner and spirit of a much younger person. sadly there are not many

like him, not as wise or as cheerful.

The Parkinsons, that is the result of not eating saturated fat. We are heading

for an epidemic. There are other factors, ie eating grains is not a good idea,

nor fruit or pasturised milk products. We have a line of parkinsons on my dads

side, and guess what, my aunt who has married into this family, her family have

no trace of parkinsons, but she has eaten our way, and bingo, yep she has it!!!!

Her son reminds me of my dad more than anybody so he is a potential, his wife

has crohns and she eats the traditional way of our family too. So the moral of

the story is, when marrying into our family check out the diet!!!!!

The 12 steps might help your friend. It is very hard to give up carbs if we are

addicted. Being around others with the good sense to do the same helps.

My family all have addictions cigarettes food alcohol, drugs prescription drugs

etc. One thing we are taught when we are at 12 step groups is how to detach from

the addictive lifestyle. I used to get enraged at all this addiction, so mad it

sent me batty, and sure enough before the day was out I was binging on a

chocolate cake because of it LOL

Now I do not get drawn into anybodies addictions, not even my childrens

addictions. I expect everybody in the world to have addictions, that way if they

dont then it is a bonus.

I allow folk their space, and let them all get on with it. My addictions are the

most important thing, because I know that my addictions are the only thing that

can ger between me and my God

It all sounds kinda tough when you first enter 12 step groups, it sounds

heartless, but it isnt. the fact is some of us have made our mind up the days

for suffering are over. Nobody else can walk that path with you. I know i have

to walk it alone. and count my blessings that I am a good example to folk and

know some will see the light through me. for them that dont, even my children

all I can do is ask god to send them another helper

My mom is drinking less, my sister has cut back on her prescription drugs, my

dad has lowered his L-dopa and eats well, my children eat well, my son has given

up smoking, my daughter does not drink but has not given up smoking. I never nag

any of them, I just get on with my quitting and it does set the standard. But

Tina, we are different to other folk, we have the Holy Spirit helping us, all of

these folk they have to turn to Him too. Some will some wont, we have no control

over it. But god does hear our prayers and if we make room He does bring in

helpers for them, proper helpers helpers, not silly fools

Anyway, I think you know what I mean since I sense the Spirit is with you

Love Joanne

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 13:04

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

She does nt even know how to use a computer.She was a teacher,but hasn`t taught

for 20 years.Her husband has this old dinasaur of a computer,it is his.When she

has tried to get on it,she keeps getting pop ups and doesn`t know how to get

them off.I have offfered to help,but,it seems,she always has an excuse,or she

doesn`t feel good.I know,she probably doesn`t feel good,but,she had a lot of

good days there for awhile,she could have got on then.I don`t know,if she will

do the diet.She grew up on potatoes and mac and cheese.Everyone around her eats

the foods she loves and hard for her to stop eating them.Hard for me,but,I think

the being in pain for 20 years might be evenough to motivate me to try it.I

mentioned something to her about what Jesus says to getting well.Prayer and

fasting?Her father is a pastor,so she knows what he says.Funny,to me,how these

pastors and people that grew up in the church know so little about healthy

food.Her dad has parkinson`s.None of them try fasting,or eating healthy or

prganic.I know it can be expensive,but cutting out all the junk food helps save

money like you said,but I can`t get my husband to eat this way,so I have to buy

and prepare seperate meals.So does she.

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 7:32:21 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

I know what you are saying.I am kind of going through this with my husband and

my family.They don`t go along with what i`m doing.Last night we got into it.My

salvation,is him going to work,becasue i don`t want to be around him all the

time.It is stressfull.When he was on vacation,the same time the kids were

home,after 2 weeks,i`m lucky to have any sanity left.If he decides to leave me,I

don`t care.As far as how it will affect my daughter,I care about that,but,even

if i`m poor,and have piece,that is better to me.I`m not the wife he

wants.Someone too stay in the kitchen all day,baking from scrath and be ready to

put out when he walks through the door.I have been 26 years raising kids.18 with

a special needs child and had a late in life baby.I`m not spending all my free

time in the kitchen.Don`t know where I would go though,if we break up.I have not

worked in years.Finding childcare would not be easy to get a job.My son is

almost a legal adult,so I would be paying for adult care and child care,and that

would take my whole paycheck,or probably cost more than I even would make.If,I

get anyone to call me at all.If you have been out of work for along time,they

don`t even bother with you.

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Fri, March 9, 2012 7:18:14 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina:

 

Tina

I am experiencing some of the same right now. My mom and sister are refusing to

buy my dad things he needs and everything is getting muddled up down there, I

just have to let it go. It weighs heavy on my heart but people just dont get it,

and I cannot make them understand. If I try to, everybody gangs up against me

and I am doubly hurt. This is why I focus more on my own health than anybody

elses. It sounds selfish but it is not. There are vunerable people in my family

who rely on me for help. These other people that get in my way do not see that

if I was not there they would have to do the work, but anyway, I have to let

that go too

The thing is as I recover and I get well, I feel much calmer and happier and as

I do I can cope better with all the carry on from others, and I can think

straight too

Your son does not have seizures now and that indicates to me that his toxicity

has gone from his brain, perhaps it is only gut issues he actually has now. In

time you might be able to make small adjustments that help with this but for now

I would not worry too much, like you have said school will not help, I know this

I see it all the time on the GAPs board

My niece, she is 11 years old and a little over weight, she is diabetic insulin

dependent, she keeps asking me about the diet but I cannot really tell her much.

Her mom is my sister and she lives with her and my mom, if I get involved there

will be hell to pay not just for me but for her too if she listens to me, and so

I have to let that go too

Family do not see what a burden they can

be.............................................. but I have to let that go.

Tina, I have seen more shrinks than I care to remember regarding the dysfunction

in my family. I am not seeing any more !!!!!!!

And so I busy body about, do what I can and then let go. I have to sustain my

own sanity and that is a full time job in itself.

I am going out today with my dog. I was supposed to go on the market but got up

late. that is from spending too much time with my dad

yesterday................... see the slipperly slopes!!!!!

and this is how other folks illness can have us, all intense sad and serious,

angry at the  world and no peace. But I am having peace regardless!!!!! I only

have one life and I have to make it mine. I am a good person with good intention

and a big heart and very capable too, but in this crazy world often that is not

enough and so I do my best and then have to say Lord I have done my best, now it

is over to you

Love joanne

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 11:40

Subject: Re: Tina MSG and glutamate

 

Years ago,I went to a DAN practioner and had him on different diets,but,he is a

picky eater.Since my husnand has the food he wants in the house, will get

into it.I had him on an Adkins type diet for years trying to get rid of

candida.Another problem is school,where they go out in the community and take

them out to eat.They don`t always fowwow the diet.He gets new teachers and AIds

and they don`t know his diet.The only way he is getting glutamate is if it is in

the french fires he gets.I don`t know if I can get him off them.He is nearly

grown,so helps himself to what he wants.Got into it with my husband last

night.Had to go out of town for vision therapy.Was late getting home.Had my eye

dialated.Getting some new glasses.I know,I should be doing the exercises

too.Takes along time to do them with my daughter.I need tinted lenses for my

light sensitivity.It is better with coconut oil,but I still have it.I`m thinking

my kids will need tinted lenses for

the Irlens syndrome.

>

> Tina

>

> http://www.msgtruth.org/autism.htm

>

> This article explains how MSG can raise glutamate in the nervous system and

>worsen fight or flight, Autism Epilepsy etc, it also affects CFS and Fibro

>

> MSG and glucose both raise glutamate

>

> Glutamate is excitory and my experience with it is that it wore me into the

>ground. My mind would not switch off and my nervous system was wrecked with it

>

> Ketosis is how I escaped this madness, but even before ketosis I found some

>relief simply low carbing

>

> I low carbed with the Atkins diet and I still to this day think the Atkins

diet

>

>

>is helpful, but many of the foods on the Atkins diet contain MSG and for this

>reason it is only really any good when weaning dwonwards

>

> The GAPS diet does not contain MSG foods and in the main Natashas foods are

>also low carb so they also help lower glucose which as I have already explained

>is another substance that can easily raise glutamate in the nervous system.

What

>

>

>I am not crazy on wiht the GAPs diet is natasha is allowing juicing and nuts

>

> Although I did use fruit and nuts to wean downwards on the carbs and although

I

>

>

>do think these foods are better than grain, my experieince with nuts and fruits

>is that really we need to limit them, and most folk do better going without

them

>

>

>for a while. Both Bee and Natash explain in some detail how to prepare these

>foods for eating. I cannot recall everything that Natasha says but Bee tells us

>to only have lemon juice and limit that and she tells us to stay off nuts until

>we are well and then if we want to try them if we soak them and roast them they

>will be easier to digest

>

> Anyway, clearly all this takes a lot of reading and it is hard to make sense

of

>

>

>it all since they are saying different, but generally speaking a low carb diet

>and low MSG and other foods, both of which Bee and Natasha list is the right

way

>

>

>to go. BUT, Autistic children, as you know resist change and this is something

>you would have to do slowly. There are now quit a few GAPS practitioners on the

>Internet

>

> http://gaps.me/preview/?page_id=496

>

> My experience is only with adults and I have no experience at all with autism.

>All I know is that Bees diet and the GAPs diet works for Autism and the

>illnesses on the Autism spectrum list and they work for Fibro CFS and other

>autoimmune illnesses. So I can share what I know but really with Autistic

>children or even Autistic adults the advice of a fully trained practitioner

>would be more correct than what I can tell you

>

> Love Joanne

>

>

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