Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 > Okay went to the school yesterday to find out what is going on with Mathtew > and his IEP...Can you believe the princpal told me " actually we failed to > idetify last year so when IEP were done in JULY he was passed over. " , I don't know much about the special education system in Canada, but Sherry Zee has this nifty page with links to Canadian resources. I tend to brainstorm as I write to please bear with me. http://home1.gte.net/sherryze/canadian.htm Your e-mail address tells me you're from Central Ontario. One of the links on Sherry's page takes me to the Upper Canada District School Board's Web Site: http://www.ucdsb.on.ca/ From here out, what I write will depend on whether this is the appropriate school board. Anyway, on their page I found a link to Special Education Identification Placement and Review Committees and Appeals http://www.ucdsb.on.ca/news/iprc990415.pdf I strongly suggest you download a copy of this and print it out for your reference. (You will need to download and install Acrobat Reader to view this document http://www.ucdsb.on.ca/reader.htm ) According to that, identification is made by the Identification, Placement, and Review Committee (IPRC) : How is an IPRC meeting requested? The principal of your child's school: .. must request an IPRC meeting for your child, upon receiving your written request; .. may, with written notice to you, refer your child to an IPRC when the principal and the child's teacher or teachers believe that your child may benefit from a special education program. Within 15 days of receiving your request, or giving you notice, the principal must provide you with a copy of this guide and a written statement of approximately when the IPRC will meet. > how do I make them understand that > everything he has learned was from extensive work at home? Keep documentation of the hours you spend working with your child, what you worked on, and if any of the work includes worksheets or anything tangible, keep that also. Then take it in with you to the IPRC meeting and show them just what it takes at home to keep him caught up. This is what I had to do with our son when we were working from 3:30 till 10:00 at night with breaks for dinner and bath, just to keep him so he wouldn't be totally lost in class. Good luck. I hope some of this has been helpful. Kay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 Thanks Kay...you are always a little light at the end of my tunnel! At 11:01 AM 9/11/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >> Okay went to the school yesterday to find out what is going on with >Mathtew >> and his IEP...Can you believe the princpal told me " actually we failed to >> idetify last year so when IEP were done in JULY he was passed >over. " > >, I don't know much about the special education system in Canada, but >Sherry Zee has this nifty page with links to Canadian resources. I tend to >brainstorm as I write to please bear with me. >http://home1.gte.net/sherryze/canadian.htm > >Your e-mail address tells me you're from Central Ontario. One of the links >on Sherry's page takes me to the Upper Canada District School Board's Web >Site: >http://www.ucdsb.on.ca/ >>From here out, what I write will depend on whether this is the appropriate >school board. Anyway, on their page I found a link to Special Education >Identification Placement and Review Committees and Appeals >http://www.ucdsb.on.ca/news/iprc990415.pdf >I strongly suggest you download a copy of this and print it out for your >reference. >(You will need to download and install Acrobat Reader to view this document >http://www.ucdsb.on.ca/reader.htm ) >According to that, identification is made by the Identification, Placement, >and Review Committee (IPRC) : > >How is an IPRC meeting requested? >The principal of your child's school: >. must request an IPRC meeting for your child, upon >receiving your written request; >. may, with written notice to you, refer your child to an >IPRC when the principal and the child's teacher or >teachers believe that your child may benefit from a >special education program. >Within 15 days of receiving your request, or giving you >notice, the principal must provide you with a copy of this >guide and a written statement of approximately when >the IPRC will meet. > >> how do I make them understand that >> everything he has learned was from extensive work at home? > >Keep documentation of the hours you spend working with your child, what you >worked on, and if any of the work includes worksheets or anything tangible, >keep that also. Then take it in with you to the IPRC meeting and show them >just what it takes at home to keep him caught up. This is what I had to do >with our son when we were working from 3:30 till 10:00 at night with breaks >for dinner and bath, just to keep him so he wouldn't be totally lost in >class. > >Good luck. I hope some of this has been helpful. > >Kay > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 Oh , I am sorry all I can do is say " poor baby " . I sympathize with you but know nothing about the Canadian system. Ours is confusing enough. I am glad that Kay sent you all those links and I hope you find things that will be helpful to you. Please just keep us informed on how you are doing and maybe we will all learn something. Don't we have other members here from Canada? Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 Thanks for your thought s Barb. The site Kay sent was wonderful. It lists all about the IPRC and IEP process here. My printer has been broken for a while but tomorrow I am purchasing a new one as they are on sale so that I can print it all. Just knowing that you all are behind me gives me the motivation to pick up read on and begin the next battle! ~ and 's Mom At 02:55 PM 9/11/99 -0400, you wrote: > > >Oh , > >I am sorry all I can do is say " poor baby " . I sympathize with you but know >nothing about the Canadian system. Ours is confusing enough. I am glad >that Kay sent you all those links and I hope you find things that will be >helpful to you. Please just keep us informed on how you are doing and maybe >we will all learn something. > >Don't we have other members here from Canada? > >Barb > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 1999 Report Share Posted September 11, 1999 , this is horrifying! I read that Kay sent you some great info. In addition to pursuing that, however, I would send this clown a letter confirming your conversation, asking HIM all the questions you have, requesting a response in writing, and also requesting any and all printed materials, websites, etc., about your rights, the special ed laws, regulations and statutes of Canada and your province, since you have never been provided any information about same, as well as the name and contact information of the special education directors of your school district, service area (if applicable) and province. Finally, document in your letter all of the events that have transpired or not transpired in the past year (or however far back you think is appropriate,) a detailed description of the action(s) you are seeking, and the reasons why this is urgent. Ask for information about how to obtain these things and any information about filing complaints. Send a copy of the letter to the most appropriate candidate you can think of. (Even if the only person you can think of is the PM.) If you are not that gutsy yet, you can leave out the complaint stuff and hope it will be included in the info about your rights and the laws. If it isn't, you can ask at a later date. Celeste's #1 Rule of Sped Parenthood: Always document everything, no matter how trivial it may appear at the time. Corrolary to Rule #1: If it isn't in writing, it did not happen. Good luck. (I'll be gone for a week starting tomorrow.) Celeste >Okay went to the school yesterday to find out what is going on with Mathtew >and his IEP...Can you believe the princpal told me " actually we failed to >idetify last year so when IEP were done in JULY he was passed over. " >Excuse me while I rant now.....the child has a moderately severe hearing >loss that will get worse over the years...what the H--- does he mean >identify and passed over give me a break!!! >Then I asked about the iterant teacher...when will she be back...how much >service ect....principal " uhhhh...hmmmmm....well did you hear she was >leaving cause if not she'll be back...althoug sometimes they do shift their >loads around.....well actually I will call the board next week and >see....we'll let you know! " >I have no clue what to do.....Oh ya and then at the very end he says " well >do really think he is so far behind that he needs an IEP? " >Hello people he can't hear! So I went to the car and had a break >down....How do I get him assesed and how do I make them understand that >everything he has learned was from exstensive work at home....with out help >he will quickly fall behind the pack....I feel almost now like I should have >not worked so hard with him because now they think he is so close to Okay he >can keep up on his own....I had an ECE teacher do daycare in my home and btw >her and I it still took two years to learn the alphabet. >I might add just as a little side brag that he learned the sign alphabet in >less thatn a week. >So folks once again I am begging for help...I have no clue what to do now! >~ and 's Mom > >Oh ya I also asked the principal about calling an IEP meeting but he says >with out being identified in the system..there can be no IEP. > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 1999 Report Share Posted September 12, 1999 , I do not know Canadian law but it sounds to me as if you have to start putting these things in writing. I have found this out the hard way. Unless it is in writing, it is meaningless. First, you need you write to the SpEd director or principal to request an HI evaluation and an IEP. Find out what the time limit set by the government is. It is most likely thirty or sixty days. Inform them that they need to follow up with action with that time period, quote the law and ask them to respond to you in writing. If they insist on talking with you, refuse and ask them to put it in writing first. If they still refuse to do an evaluation or an IEP to do so, file a complaint. Most likely you will file a complaint with your local district or your Province's Dept of Ed but, as I said, I do not know Canadian law. Good luck, Eleanor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 1999 Report Share Posted September 12, 1999 did you get the sites Kay snet about Canadian Laws? If not let me know and I will post them for you....One listed all your rights and layed out step by step how the process works. ~ and 's Mom At 09:15 PM 9/12/99 -0700, you wrote: > > >I'm here, but I'm as much in the dark as is. Is there anyone else who >is more familiar with the Canadian system? (My son is only in kindergarten, >so our school experience is just beginning too.) > > in Ottawa > >> >> Don't we have other members here from Canada? >> >> Barb > > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 1999 Report Share Posted September 12, 1999 I'm here, but I'm as much in the dark as is. Is there anyone else who is more familiar with the Canadian system? (My son is only in kindergarten, so our school experience is just beginning too.) in Ottawa > > Don't we have other members here from Canada? > > Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Hi All, While I don't live in Canada, I am only 15 minutes from the boarder and have family there. I have gathered some information and links to web sites concerned with disabilities and education in Canada. Maybe some of these will help. I have never been able to find a National policy on line for Canada, if anyone knows where one is, pass it on. Some of the provinces have information, but some are not too clear. Here's my page: http://home1.gte.net/sherryze/canadian.htm Sherry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Yes, I got them. Thanks, and Kay! > did you get the sites Kay snet about Canadian Laws? If not let me > know and I will post them for you....One listed all your rights and layed > out step by step how the process works. > ~ and 's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 1999 Report Share Posted September 13, 1999 Yes, I'm from Canada, but the wrong province. I live in Saskatchewan, not Ontario. , all I can suggest is forcing the issue with the school board. Phone the director or supervisor of special services. If that doesn't pan out, write the Board Members. If, as in this province, they are voted in, you are in a position of power. I am a teacher/counsellor in SK. If you feel I might be able to help, let me know. Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 1999 Report Share Posted September 14, 1999 We are having some of the same problems on my list and here's a page I found that has links to the laws of each Province and Territory in Canada. http://www.intergov.gc.ca/prov/index.html Casey Mom to Dawn 20 HH, Ken 10 ADHD, 7 CHARGE ICQ 728514 AIM ZeeCasey CHARGE Web Page: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1220 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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