Re: my goals

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Hahaha - actually it's because I don't make a deal of it. I tell all

the boys to come and get it if they are hungry. He expects me to

come and drag him in, threaten and bribe and bed him to take at

leaste one bite...but instead I just let him sit and play where he is

and don't say a thing. It is usually about the time I pick his plate

up and hide it that he comes in wondering where his is. I just tell

him it's gone - I didn't think he wanted it. Then of course he says

he might have wanted it. I shrug and act like oh well - not even

telling him what it was.

Before long he's asking for it - and I of couse have to think about

it - because after all, I just got done cleaning up and all, and he

probably wouldn't want to eat all his lunch anyway...

he starts asking and promising...finally I 'give in' and let him have

it. (He always has at leasts seconds :-)

For my little one I am always telling everyone else to not ask him

more than once if he's hungry. Ask once and leave him alone - he

don't need it!

Ang

> > > > >

> > > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

> loss

> > > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > > > possible.

> > > > >

> > > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

> because

> > my

> > > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she

made

> > me

> > > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > > >

> > > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

> and

> > > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

> my

> > > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

> thin,

> > > but

> > > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > > >

> > > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > > flushed

> > > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and

for

> > > years

> > > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

> was

> > > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't

go

> on

> > > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> > weight

> > > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

> 2

> > > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> > doctor

> > > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > > comfortable

> > > > weight for me however, and i am for 120. 62 down and

> 28

> > > to

> > > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

> so

> > > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > > >

> > > > > Vic

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Ang,

Last time I took my daughter to the doc which was about 4 or 5 months

ago and she was 75% in hight I think I know she was on the high end

of avrage. She weighs 60 pounds. What is the worst though is thet she

is a girl and want's to ware all the cute cloths. She can't even ware

jeens because there too long and tight. She weighs not even 10 pounds

less then my seven year old boy and he is an average size. Do you

happin to have a way to find out how bad off she is? I need to see

just how tall she is and put her on the scale to make sure I am

right. My sister in law was over the other night and saw her in her

two piece and I could just tell she was looking at her discusted

like. Her girls are nice and skinney. My daughter is very smart and

she sees this and I can just see her face and it hurts her. She is

even unhappy with the way she looks already. Tonight everyone was

haveing ice cream and she really wanted me to eat one with her. I

said no that I wasn't hungery. She was upset with me that I wouldn't

eat on like it hurt her feelings. I think she wants me to stay fat

with her. Now that really makes me want to cry. Thank you for careing

and listening to me wine, or I guess I should say reading my winney

message. I just never thought this would happin to her.

Michel

> > >

> > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight loss

> > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > possible.

> > >

> > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly because

my

> > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

me

> > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > >

> > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help and

> > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout my

> > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was thin,

> but

> > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > >

> > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> flushed

> > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> years

> > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i was

> > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go on

> > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

weight

> > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost 2

> > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

doctor

> > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> comfortable

> > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and 28

> to

> > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people so

> > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > >

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

[Guest guest]

Lucia,

That is terrable. I don't know what's wrong with people like that.

What's really sad is thet the longer your over weight as a child the

more difficult it is to be a normal weight as an adult. Those two

ladys probably screwed them up for life, lets hope not though!

Michel

>

> > I just can't see how a mother could put her child

> > through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

>

> You know what though? Some mom's really are like that.

>

> When I was 14 and still very skinny, my skinny friend and I went to

the

> Dairy Queen to buy slurpies. We stood in line behind to very, very

heavy

> women who were accompanied by two very, very heavy kids. The women

ordered

> huge ice-cream brownie fudge sundaes for the kids.

>

> My friend and I were then absolutely stunned because the kids

interrupted

> the women and BEGGED to be allowed something smaller. We sat at

the picnic

> tables drinking our slurpies; so did the women and the kids. The

two kids

> actually were protesting that they were full. And you know what,

the women

> were lecturing the kids telling them they HAD to eat the sundae.

>

> We'd never heard mom's forcing sweets on kids-- vegetables yes, but

fudge

> sundaes? Anyway, these kids were fat because they were literally

force fed.

> We were astonished!

>

> Lucia

>

> --

> See my weight loss results at:

> http://www.thedietdiary.com/diet/myProgress/ResultsPlan1.html

[Guest guest]

,

I almost cryed reading your message. It would just tear me apart too

have to see my child go through that. I really feel for you and your

son!! Kids are so mean and sometimes adults are even worse. obesity

runs on my husbands side of the family as well. My husband was an

over weight child but lucky for him he got a summerjob doing

arrigation in a hugh field I think he even had a few paper routs. You

know back in the day when kids did it on there bikes. So he was able

to loose the weight before high school. He said he wasn't teased too

bad because he didn't talk to anyone hardly at all. I remember a kid

like that when I was in elementry school and he went out for foot

ball in middle school and had a really hard body in high school. You

couldn't keep the girls off of him. One thing that I just thought of

is maby when she gets to start racing which should be soon when my

husbands arm gets better maby that will help. The older boys race

dirt bikes. My husband did too Well maby not I have seen my husband

as a small child racing and still chubby. Oh who knows what's going

to happin. I don't know what I would do if my daughter was crying her

self to sleep at night. I think I would be crying with her. I am the

biggest whimp!!

Michel

> > >

> > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > possible.

> > >

> > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because my

> > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

me

> > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > >

> > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> but

> > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > >

> > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> flushed

> > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> years

> > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

weight

> > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

doctor

> > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> comfortable

> > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and

28

> to

> > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > >

> > > Vic

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

[Guest guest]

You know if I could afford it I probably would. We could all use a

little talking too. Personally I think she is just board. She is the

only little girl on the street. Well there is a few down the street

but she isn't allowed to go that far. That bothers her too because

she has sneeked quit a few times in their house. Lets just say she

wasn't happy to see mom once I found her!! I do know she is unhappy

with her weight but she doesn't really talk much about it. I have

noticed the bigger she get the more she eats. I hate haveing to

always tell her no you can't have that now but I do it in the most

posative way I can. We will get a bag of pop sickles and she will

keep going back until the bag is almost gone. Then the boys get mad

at her and I don't think she could help her self. After that one I

really watch her. Thanks for the advice though. With my insurance you

have to avrage 80 hours a month to have the benafits. I am only part

time and only available from 6 to 1 at night so I have to just take

what I get and I don't always have benafits. Thankfully all the kids

are covered under my husbands so there always taken care of. It costs

almost 30 dollars a week for me to go on his insurance though. Even

though she is covered under my husband I still wouldn't be able to do

it. We can barley send them all to the dentist every 6 months. I

would do it if I had my insurance to cover the rest but I don't.

Michel

> Michel, if you have ins. you could get her some counseling.

Something is bothering her to make her want to eat, maybe. I was a

heavy kid too when I reached 13, puberty. I think if she can learn

new ways to deal with her emotions then she can get better. Hell, if

we could all learn new ways to deal with our emotions then we would

all be fine. lol I know its no laughing matter but that is what i

need to learn too. But i think if she had someone to talk to

professionally, maybe they could help her. I dont know, just heard

that if you can get help young, then it can help. Good luck Michel. I

feel for you and your daughter.

> Hugs, Tina )

> Re: my goals

>

>

> Hi Vic,

>

> I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own daughter.

My

> daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

> gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in the

> house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street. We

> have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try

to

> keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me.

She

> gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of

cancer

> so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives her

all

> kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't

afford

> it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and

notice

> her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago

and I

> picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if

she

> liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My heart

just

> droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be

silly

> your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there

is

> more to this world then the people on her street and in her home

that

> love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny

looks in

> her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is

going

> to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't

know if

> I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to let

her

> see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I

am

> starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle with

this

> especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight as

a

> child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming

from.

> She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out there

> riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think there

is

> much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it

when

> she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her

child

> through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

>

> Michel

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can't find that site I was at the other day :-( I will keep

looking though.

What is her hight and weight and how old is she exctly? I have the

baby/toddler and child/teen growth weight charts here I can look at.

It is the same chart her pediatritian has.

I know your concernes...it is scarry and painfull to think that the

little one might have a life long problem with weight issues -

especially in todays world.

How old is she again?

My little guy just turned 4 on July 14 and he is 54 pounds. He's

always been above the 97% in hights, but you still see that his arms

and legs and checks are chubby, and there is a definaate <ah> when I

see him without his shirt on.

But to put a child on any kind of diet is a big mistake. To limit

their sweets and junk food is good helath. That's what I'm trying to

do.

Maybe you could start only doing dessert once a week - and then

making it frozen yogurt (they don't know the difference), or rootbear

floats...fruit snacks or jello knox blox.

Don't go low fat or low carbs or anything like that with her...for a

young one just do general calorie watching (not counting)...and try

to get her up and moving more if she is one to sit and play or watch

tv.

She will probably loose a little during the school year - can you

find hera cerial that isn't to high in calories and sugar that she

likes? If you can give her breakfasts that are in the 'good cal

zone', then she is not able to have seconds at school...all you need

to really do is have a snack and dinner that is mostly fiberous and

low cal....maybe popcorn (no butter) - huge bowl for all the kids to

snack on when they come in from school, or watermellon or cantalope.

Make dinner light as well.

Ang

> > > >

> > > > I just realized that i never really told anyone my weight

loss

> > > goals or history in depth. I'm going to make this as short as

> > > possible.

> > > >

> > > > When i was a young child i was very overweight, mainly

because

> my

> > > weight-obsessed mother felt better about herself when she made

> me

> > > fat. I was teased and tormented untill I was 14.

> > > >

> > > > In about 9th grade, i became anorexic. Luckily i got help

and

> > > recovered by 17, which i thank god for every day. Throughout

my

> > > senior yr in high school, and freshmen yr of college, i was

thin,

> > but

> > > not too thin, and eating pretty healthily.

> > > >

> > > > By my sophmore year the pounds were coming on- and fast. I

> > flushed

> > > all i had learned about healthy eating down the drain, and for

> > years

> > > was on one fad diet or another. When i stepped on a scale i

was

> > > shocked to find myself at 210 pounds and decided i couldn't go

on

> > > like this. Through an (obviously) tough struggle, and with

> weight

> > > watchers, i lost 60 pounds. Since i joined this group, i lost

2

> > > more. I'm a tiny person, both frame and height wise, so my

> doctor

> > > says i should " idealy " be about 110 pounds. this isn't a

> > comfortable

> > > weight for me however, and i am shooting for 120. 62 down and

28

> > to

> > > go!!! thank all you for the support. I've never found people

so

> > > open, helpful, caring, and FUN!

> > > >

> > > > Vic

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > >

[Guest guest]

She needs a project...something she can be prowd she's doing. Is

there an elderly lady close that could use some company and give her

a little job? If you talk to them first - let them know that

although you don't want anything mentioned about it your concerned

with her health/wight and that she needs something to feel good

about...ask if she could spend some time. Maybe a nieghbor has a dog

that could use play time and a good brushing every day? (you could

even give them a few dollars to give her for her service)

Also - any nursing homes around...just call them and tell them you

have a little girl who needs to vollenter some time and wantedto know

if there was anything she could do there.

If she has something she can be busy with, and proud of I think

you'll see a difference.

Ang

> > Michel, if you have ins. you could get her some counseling.

> Something is bothering her to make her want to eat, maybe. I was a

> heavy kid too when I reached 13, puberty. I think if she can learn

> new ways to deal with her emotions then she can get better. Hell,

if

> we could all learn new ways to deal with our emotions then we would

> all be fine. lol I know its no laughing matter but that is what i

> need to learn too. But i think if she had someone to talk to

> professionally, maybe they could help her. I dont know, just heard

> that if you can get help young, then it can help. Good luck Michel.

I

> feel for you and your daughter.

> > Hugs, Tina )

> > Re: my goals

> >

> >

> > Hi Vic,

> >

> > I don't know how a mother could be that way to her own

daughter.

> My

> > daughter was tiney up until she hit about three. She just keeps

> > gaining and I don't know what to do. We have healthy food in

the

> > house but she gets it from my mother in law across the street.

We

> > have asked her to not feed her all day and nothing works. I try

> to

> > keep her from sneeking over there but some how she gets bye me.

> She

> > gets treats form the neibor lady too. Now her daughter died of

> cancer

> > so she has bonded with my daughter and that is why she gives

her

> all

> > kinds of goodies all day too. I want to move so bad but can't

> afford

> > it. It just breaks my heart to see her look at her self in and

> notice

> > her weight and she is only 4. We went shoping about a week ago

> and I

> > picked out these summer outfits for her on sale. I asked her if

> she

> > liked them and she said yes but I'm too fat to ware it. My

heart

> just

> > droped I wanted to cry. But of course I just told her don't be

> silly

> > your mommys beautiful girl but I'm finding that she knows there

> is

> > more to this world then the people on her street and in her

home

> that

> > love her. Just tonight my sister in law was giving her funny

> looks in

> > her swimming suit. She sees that and it makes her sad. She is

> going

> > to start kindergarden not this fall but next fall and I don't

> know if

> > I can take stand it if she gets teased. I try so hard not to

let

> her

> > see that it hurts me too because I need to be strong for her. I

> am

> > starting to find that I think we are going to have a battle

with

> this

> > especially through her growing up years. I wasn't over weight

as

> a

> > child but my husband was and I think that's where it's coming

> from.

> > She is verry active too she has three brothers. She is out

there

> > riding her bike and playing all day so I don't really think

there

> is

> > much more I can do for her now. I just pray she grows out of it

> when

> > she starts school. I just can't see how a mother could put her

> child

> > through that if she could help it that's just plain cruel!!!

> >

> > Michel

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Ya - the 4 year old puts on 1 pound per inch :-) It sure does look

like alot more - but I keep track and that's what it usually is.

Maybe that means we won't fret when they jump in a growth spurt -

they won't get too skinny but instead stay healthy looking and just

thin :-)

My little one has a big appitie too. I meen at 3 he could easily put

down 3 sandwiches (crust and all) and want more...along with mellon

or whatever. Now what I do is tell him after the first full plate

and a second of one thing...is that we have to wait 20 mints then he

can have more. Usually he forgets about it...but if he really is

hungry I do give him more after the 20 mints is up.

I would cut the high calorie junk food and fried food because they

add too much wieght and just aren't healthy anyway. Sweets too, but

I wouldn't want to take away that childhood thing with the ice crema

treat ect... I have traded in candy and cakes and poptarts ect, for

fruit pies, frozen yogurt, fruit snacks, home made muffins...just

change to a healthier and at the same time lower calorie food

choice. Use skim milk and egg substitute for cooking and baking,

Don't put butter on thing unless you have to (toast with jelly

instead of butter, little sugar and little mike on rice instead of

butter and salt, just syrup not with butter for pancakes)...kthese

kinds of changes won't effect what she eats or the taist, but will

drrop her calorie and fat intake. Also see if she is eating mostly

one thing (carbs, sweets, protine) see what it is she seems to be

wanting most. Alot of times in fast growing spurts they want alot of

protine and carbs and get use to not eating veggies and fruit and

also get their stomachs stretched out.

Ang