Re: Arh Cameron I see now LOL

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 8:49 PM

Subject: Re: Arh Cameron I see now LOL

 

Thanks for this

Cam

>

> LOL Cameron

>

> I see this now, you and Yateendrajee, are one person LOL

>

> You are also right about the fact that we should have an array of

> bacteria, but from Bachamps view this is dictated by nature not us

>

> Each toxin has its own bacteria that digests it, or should I say the

> pathogens have their own metamorphasis that they take on when breaking

> up a toxin. There are now zillions of toxins in our society and

> zillions forms of pathogens are needed to break all this down

>

> We added a lot of antibiotics in the last century and already the

> pathogens have developed so that they can and will survive this, ie

> Candida is just one form that they have turned to and are

> strengthening to win this battle.

>

> We are now in certain areas creating GM to try to beat them but

> believe me the pathogens will win with this too, you see ALL toxins

> must be broken down regardless of the damage that results from this.

> It is essential for life. Should a time come when a toxin is invented

> that the pathogens cannot break down that will mark the end of life

> because without it being broken down it will simply build up and up.

> Radiation from nuclear leaks and bombs is a potential example, but as

> it happens the pathogens can evolve and break this down

>

> And so this is how it has been from the start

>

> the humans, (mainly the humans) the other living creatures, and other

> things necessary for life do what they have to do and from these

> toxins are made. All of the toxicity, without exception is then taken

> on by the pathogens and over time they break it down

>

> The pathogens only tackle the toxicty, they never tackle the living

> cells, the healthy cells. Any cell that is found to be toxic must

> immediately be cleaned and the pathogens within this cell get to work

> immediately. If they fail and the cell dies (due to poisoning from the

> toxicty) the pathogen then just devours the cell, or signals to other

> creatures that this cell is dead and thereful edible to the creatures

> that eat dead cells

>

> An example of this is when we die. The bacteria in the body turns to

> fungus and then when we are full of fungus flies will lay their eggs

> in us and the maggots will devour us, but flies do not lay their eggs

> in healthy flesh, only rotten flesh

>

> It is the same with pathogens, they will not dig into healthy flesh

> and start devouring that, they are not interested in flesh that is not

> toxic. They only want to digest toxic stuff. that is their job, that

> is what they are designed to do

>

> Here is a example

>

> A person goes into hospital and they are very sick with some major

> toxicity. They have a temperature and sweating and keep throwing up.

> the doctor checks their blood and finds a certain pathogen is rampent

> in their body. The doctor knows that when a person is in this state

> they can die, so he prescribes a strong introvenous antibiotic, the

> pathogens must survive this onslaught of antibiotcs so they

> immediately become fungus, candida, this protects them from the

> antibiotic, but the doctor continues to keep giving this person

> antibiotics, and even antifungals now. the pathogen has to survive and

> it has to clear this toxicity, it knows this. As it chokes on all this

> toxicity it changes again but now the pathogen is like a crazy beast,

> it turns to something like MRSA, and basically all gun hoe , runs

> through the body like a flesh eating bug, but it was not devouring the

> good flesh only the flash that was toxic. the poor person this happens

> to, now has no

> leg, but also nobody can explain why this rampent pathogen that was

> able to eat this persons leg, in a matter of minutes, how is it this

> pathogen did not jump onto everybody else in the hospital and then

> everybody in the neightbourhood and then everybody in the world and

> eat us all up. why do just certain indivuduals and only ever in

> hospitals, never anywhere else, end up in this state with MRSA

>

> It is because in the hospital they are killing the pathogen but not

> removing the toxin!!!!!!!

>

> You will never, not anywhere in the world, not even under a

> microscope, ever find a pathogen, on its own with out the toxin it is

> feeding on. The two cannot be separeted

>

> You see the toxin creates the pathogen, not the pathogen creating the

> toxin

>

> Pathogens are toxic, but only because they have ingested toxic material

>

> Here is another way of looking at it

>

> If you place a manure pile outside your back door, flies and other

> insects will appear. You can go outside with fly killer and other

> insecticides and spray them, kill them even, but the next day the

> flies and other creatures will be there. you see you will never shift

> the creatures by trying to kill them they will come back come back

> come back. But if you get a spade and you shovel the manure away, you

> will have no creatures either. And this is how it is with pathogens

>

> what ever pathogen is in your body the cells in your body are needing

> that particular pathogen to clear the actual toxin that is inthe area

> that your pathogen is residing

>

> For me it was in my brain

>

> I had a very shocking thing happen to me and a tremendous level of

> fear/anger emotions filled my body and along with that a whole load of

> toxic homones and only the Lord knows what. Anyway this terrible event

> filled my brain and nervous system with a whole load of toxic stuff,

> that my usual pathogens could not clear, so my body then encouraged

> candida and other more ruthless pathogens to enter my head and nervous

> system to get this mess shifted

>

> It took ages, but one day, not long ago actually, my neck swelled, it

> burst and right at the very point where my scull joins my neck a load

> of like acidy yucky stuff came flooding out of the back of my

> head/neck. I was scared, really scared, thought it might be a

> heamorage or something. But it was not. what is was was this pathogens

> that had been driving me nots for months had finally created a pathway

> for all this poisonous fluid to leave my body. Since that day I have

> had no candida sensations in my brain, but I do still get slight

> sensations in my spine and hips. The candida, and other pathogens are

> still there cleaning up the mess, and of course the enzymes are

> rebuilding everything

>

> You see this is how pathogens work within our bodies. They clear up

> our mess. They hurt, they give us brain fog, they itch, make us feel

> sick and tonnes more, but this is only because as they clear the mess,

> they kind of fart LOL

>

> It is like a worm in a compost bin. they eat the rotten food, munch

> munch munch munch and out the other end life giving soul is created,

> which feeds the plants and on and on

>

> You pathogens are doing this inside you. They are cleaning up any

> toxicity you have and trying to make good out of it. Either good out

> of it or get rid of it

>

> the body can only flush it out if it is broken up

>

> Now dont ask me why, because, its another long email LOL, but some how

> the pathogens do all this so much more gracefully on a ketogenic diet

> than they do on a glucose diet

>

> just kidding I will explain this too if you want me to LOL

>

> Love joanne

>

> ________________________________

> From: Cameron D McIntosh <yateendraji@...

> <mailto:yateendraji%40gmail.com>>

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sent: Monday, 2 January 2012, 2:03

> Subject: Re: Yateendrajee: The diet

>

>

>

> Thanks very much for this.

>

> Cam (Yateendra)

>

>

> >

> > Yateendrajee

> >

> > When I first began Bees diet I felt it was controlling, too many rules

> > and too rigid, and I could not understand why other natural foods like

> > cocoa, honey, berries were not allowed. I had eaten them on the Atkins

> > diet and I had not found these to be a problem, in fact they had

> > helped me a

> > lot wean off all the processed carbs and they made my meals taste good

> >

> > A friend explained that Bees diet was based on the Optimal Diet by Jan

> > Kwasneiwski, Jan is renowned in Poland and elsewhere for his abiilty

> > to cure incurable illnesses without any medication at all

> >

> > Here are some

> > testimonies from his site

> >

> > http://homodiet.netfirms.com/testimonials/testimonial1.htm

> >

> > Still sceptical, i asked but why all these supplements, surely if this

> > diet was nutritious and healing as they say, we would not need all

> > these supplements

> >

> > I was then referred to the work of the Weston Price Foundation

> >

> > http://www.westonaprice.org/

> >

> > Here I learned how terribly lacking our foods are, even organic foods,

> > in nutrition due to the draining of the soil, poor farming methods,

> > all what goes on with the supermarkets and so on

> >

> > There are folk that are significantly richer than I am and they can

> > afford to buy all their fats, meats, eggs, vegetables, and other foods

> > in the prestige condition that they were in the past, but even with

> > all the effort I put in now, and I do put a very lot of effort in, I

> > still cannot find foods that are genuinely rich in nutrition to the

> > extent that they should be

> >

> > Bees supplement regime

> > makes up for this short fall, and most of her supplements are actually

> > foods and those that are not contain the absolute minimum, and I mean

> > the absolute minimum, trace levels of things that are not too great

> for us

> >

> > Dr Mercola, Croxton, Natasha McBride and others I have

> > mentioned here, have also gone to great lengths to ensure their

> > supplement regimes are of the highest quality and as correct as

> > possible in regards to human need, but none of these have gone into

> > this as deeply or as effectively as Bees diet

> >

> > Now in regards to the fecal transplants, and other therapies like the

> > helminthic therapies, I am all for these, I know they work and if I

> > had had the money may well have gone for such a therapy. I also

> > support the GAPS diet, the Ecology and many other therapies and I even

> > use some things myslef, like McKenna, this is not on Bees

> > program, and encourage others sometimes to do things not 100% correct,

> > like cheating with

> > whey protein, taking paracetamol and so on. But when deciding the

> > value of any other therapy I have to use this yard stick

> >

> > A lot fo therapies can help temporarily, but at the same time

> > undermine the healing of the diet. an example here would be the Gerson

> > Therapy. I know for certain that therapy works for cancer and some

> > other illnesses and I admire the folk that use that therapy and do not

> > use radiation or chemo therapy etc, but we clearly could not use the

> > Gerson therapy with the ketogenic diet because there is simply too

> > much contradition, one is fat based and one is plant food based. Some

> > therapies do not interfer with the diet at all and really do

> > complement it, things like chiropractor, accupuncture, massage, sauna,

> > enema and so on, I support all these. Other things it is harder to

> > tell, if they will assist or hinder healing. For instance the

> > heminthic therapy I mentioned would i think support recovery with Bees

> > diet, but I have also read

> > that many people using that protocol are using the worms so that they

> > can eat processed foods and even eat a high carb diet. this is

> > worrying for me. As you know, high carb diets are the cause of the

> > epidemics of diabetes, cancer, alzheimers, fibromyalgia, arthritis,

> > candida, and many more illnesses we now have in the west. The

> > helminthic treatments might shift a serious illness like crohns MS,

> > even fibro I suspect, but for me to return to that high carb processed

> > food diet would be really tempting fate

> >

> > I am 45, my dad was 64 when he was diagnosed with Parkinsons. His

> > health up until then was quit good, mine has been terrible. I have

> > already experienced many symptoms of parkinsons, and i am not fully

> > well from fibro yet. I think it would be a crying shame to get well

> > from this illness and then go back eating that diet only to then go on

> > and develop parkinsons, or even something worse. My dads parkinsons is

> > in reverse but he has suffered a great

> > deal with it and he has struggled a lot with the diet, he is doing

> > well now but after seeing much of what he has gone through, and

> > recalling all I went through in the past is what makes me very

> > determined to remain with this

> >

> > The ketogenic version if the diet is restrictive if you compare it to

> > the indulgence of the west, but in most cultures across the world folk

> > are not eating anywhere near the level of food or the variety of food

> > we eat int he west, and those societies that are healthy, those that

> > have very very very little autoimmune illness or degenerative disease,

> > they are eating ketogenically The Inuit and Massai tribes are two

> examples

> >

> > http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/price.html

> >

> > Other tribes that Weston Price found that were healthy, not as healthy

> > as the Inuits and Massai, but considerably more healthy than we all

> > are in the west. these tribes ate more like Bees normal candida diet

> > and her healthy eating diet. Many folk that start on the ketogenic

> > diet move onto these diets, but given my history of serious illness

> > and my family history of parkinsons, I am staying with the ketosis.

> > Folk decide better when they are healed which diet to choose

> >

> > I hope this makes some sense. i know it is long but there is a lot to

> > cover and I do not want to loose any of you. This diet works for

> > fibro, it works for other incurable illnesses too, and it can be done

> > without the use of any drugs at all

> >

> > When I get time i will share more about this with you

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: yateendrajee <yateendraji@...

> <mailto:yateendraji%40gmail.com>

> > <mailto:yateendraji%40gmail.com>

> > >

> > >

> >

> > > Dear Joanne:

> > >

> > > You said it would take some time to " get my head around it, " and it

> > > did. But the explanation in your response to (below) resonates

> > > for me.

> > >

> > > The implication is that killing the candida is not the answer because

> > > the candida is only there to the extent that detoxification is

> > > necessary. That point is simple, logical and elegant.

> > >

> > > I will say one thing about my experience with prescription

> > > antifungals. I have had to do three coffee enemas per day to stay

> > > ahead of the toxcicity. I have also needed to add regular

> > > psyllium-bentonite shakes. These ease out material from the gut and

> > > have the advantage of being effective in the small intestine.

> > >

> > > Reading your posts help me appreciate the unique helpfulness Bee's

> > > diet has had in treating your illness (fibromyalgia).

> > >

> > > One way I'm looking at my approach is that, although the candida are

> > > there to help with detoxification, it is possible that the mix of

> > > organisms in the gut might be adjusted by a proportional *reduction*

> > > in the amount of candida and a proportional *increase* in other

> > > organisms which will also help in detox but will create a balance in

> > > which the human ecosystem can work more fully for the *host's* (i.e.,

> > > my) benefit.

> > >

> > > While I agree that diet is the single essential, sufficient means to

> > > this end, and will be crucial in locking in gains, I wouldn't totally

> > > disallow the possibility of a successful non-dietary intervention. My

> > > doctor shared that one of his patients had been doing the SCD diet,

> > > then decided to go to Australia and have a special procedure done

> > > whereby the gut was sterilized, and a fecal implant was performed. It

> > > took this patient two times (separated by years) through this

> > > procedure to have the result " take, " but he was able to go forward

> > > without further dietary restriction.

> > >

> > > I can't say that appeals to me, nor am I sure this fellow will be able

> > > to continue indefinitely with a randomized diet, but it was an

> > > interesting story.

> > >

> > > Cam

> > > PS: I have philosophical reservations about being on a restrictive

> > > diet forever. People do it and, if there is no alternative, I'm OK

> > > with it. However, from a spiritual standpoint, allowing the full

> > > spectrum of life through our bodies is desirable. I am interested to

> > > have read that Jini Patel was able to heal herself from

> > > serious bowel trouble, and she emphasizes developing a very diverse

> > > population of organisms in the gut. This seems to correlate well with

> > > the scientific observation that the biodiversity of the gut of

> > > gut-compromised people is *very* limited.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It is Candida, I am sure. This happened to me, and often they could

> > > not find the candida with tests but gave me Canistan and it cleared it

> > > up, so it was Candida

> > > >

> > > > But , using the canistan was not the answer since what this

> > > actually is is detox

> > > >

> > > > I still occasionlly get an itchy rashe there, but mine has moved and

> > > now it is on the back of my legs behind my knees. I NEVER do anything

> > > to stop this, except apply a little coconut oil to sooth it

> > > >

> > > > You see I now see this os correct. This is what is supposed to

> > > happen. The body has to get rid of its toxins and this is the way it

> > > does it

> > > >

> > > > For my husband it is his feet. He gets Candida symptoms on his feet

> > > >

> > > > The thing is when it is mild it does not matter because that is just

> > > the body getting rid of a little junk, it is when it is rampant, all

> > > over the body, or keeps returning really intensely, this is when real

> > > attention is needed. But not to destroy the candida. The candida is

> > > simply breaking up the toxin for you

> > > >

> > > > what you need to do is clear the toxin

> > > >

> > > > Candida is actually telling your sister something here

> > > >

> > > > She must have too many carbs in her body. candida breaks up sugar,

> > > starch, lactose, and fructose, and a few other carbs i do not know the

> > > names of

> > > >

> > > > If your sister water fasts for a day and totally stays off carbs for

> > > a few days this will clear up, BUT this is not the ideal way to deal

> > > with it

> > > >

> > > > You see your sister must be lacking the bacteria needed to digest

> > > carbs in general and this is why all this has turned to candida

> > > >

> > > > to get her gut functioning correctly she needs to go on Bees diet

> > > and do it ketogenically if possible

> > > >

> > > > She can if she wants to try my sharp shock treatment of water

> > > fasting and no carbs (but she most defiantely needs to take see salt)

> > > but to be honest for most folk this is too hard

> > > >

> > > > Instead of just hammering the system this way that i am saying it is

> > > much easier, and probably much safer too. Remember Bee knows more

> > > about all this than i do

> > > >

> > > > Other things that really affect us and lead to candida are heavy

> > > metals and dead skin that has been killed from toxicity etc. This is

> > > going into things too much really, but coffee enemas help with this

> > > and they are tonnes safer than canastan or indeed any antifungals

> > > >

> > > > Negative emotions also trigger my candida

> > > >

> > > > but notice with the above, the toxins be it carbs, heavy metals,

> > > emotions or whatever, preceed the candida. sort this lot you sort the

> > > candida. destroy your candida and all this toxicity will build up and

> > > lead to even worse illness

> > > >

> > > > Hope i am making sense, typing really fast, i have to go out now

> > > >

> > > > Love and stuff joanne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > >

> > > > To: fibromyalgiacured

> <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > Sent: Friday, 30 December 2011, 2:02

> > > > Subject: Strange symptoms

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > > Hello All

> > > > I had my sister try doing no gluten and she had been doing it for a

> > > month then

> > > > she ate what ever she wanted during the holidays she has very bad

> > > inflammation,

> > > > dry cracked, red skin around her bottom and her vagina.

> > > > She went to her gyno who thinks maybe its a yeast infection but sent

> > > out a

> > > > sample even though she could not see any yeast on the sample she

> took

> > > > Has anything like this happened to anyone? Or does anyone have an

> > > idea what this

> > > > could be?

> > > > I told her to take a bath with epsom salt, drink braggs vinegar and

> > > take some

> > > > lemon juice and water each day

> > > >

> > > > Thank you

> > > >

> > > > Ciao-

> > > > Ange

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >