Re: Ayurverdic and Chinese Medicine

[Guest guest]

How about massage therapy?Anyone do that?I am very interested in Chinese

medicine,also.They say,touch,and human hands can heal.Using oils with massage.I

still want to use the Raindrop technoque for scoliosis,Have not gotten around to

order the kit yet.Kind of expensive.

Nettie: Ketosis

Nettie

I remember how several months ago you shared with us how ill you are and as I

recall it was very severe. I am wondering if your illness is as severe now as it

was then?

You may recall that I told you I am using a diet to control my pain and spasm,

but that the diet is also not always easy to do when we are not used to it

The diet I am on is Bees diet. I think I have sent you a link. If you do not

have the link to Bees stuff then please let me know and I will forward

everything to you

If you have already looked at Bees stuff and you think her diet might be too

difficult for you at this time then another way of doing the diet is to use the

Dr Atkins book

Using the Ar Atkins book will not fully heal you but you might, if you use his

book, find that some of your pain and spasm is lowered

You will have to buy that book from a book shop, or borrow it from the library

In that book there is a section called the Induction diet. It is that diet that

you most need to concentrate on. If you follow Dr Atkins advice you will be able

to get your carb intake down to less than 20g per day

This will lead you into what we call ketosis. If you are in ketosis your

symptoms should be less

But Nettie I need to talk to you a lot more about this because sustaining

ketosis is not always easy, and if we are eating low low carb like that but not

eating sufficinet nutrition it can be dangerous

Bee has a list of foods and supplements that we all need to take. but right now

I suspect this might all be too much for you. If you have just one person in

your life who you can bring to this site to chat with us, this will help too. I

will explain to them how and why the diet works and everything you need to do

If you do not have anybody that can help you right now, then the Atkins book

really is your best bet. dr Atkins has some really good advice and if you stick

with his book you should find some improvement

Nettie, just let us know you are there and i will keep sending you stuff, and

the others here will send you stuff too

Please do not be buying this medication below WE DO NOT NEED IT. But this video

does show how ketosis works and you might get a hint from this how it helps our

bodes get well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwvA_KjEr0

Email me direct if you want to

Love Joanne

[Guest guest]

I have used hot castor oil packs before.For my son,helps detox.Awhile back,I had

a bad bout of hayfever,and then,I got phemonia,and then swollen lymp nodes and

then pleurisy.I used hot castor oil packs on my chest.Also,this match stick

remedy I learned about.Helped clear up a lung infection fast.Use can place the

pack anywhere you have pain.Helps with elimination.

Nettie: Ketosis

Nettie

I remember how several months ago you shared with us how ill you are and as I

recall it was very severe. I am wondering if your illness is as severe now as it

was then?

You may recall that I told you I am using a diet to control my pain and spasm,

but that the diet is also not always easy to do when we are not used to it

The diet I am on is Bees diet. I think I have sent you a link. If you do not

have the link to Bees stuff then please let me know and I will forward

everything to you

If you have already looked at Bees stuff and you think her diet might be too

difficult for you at this time then another way of doing the diet is to use the

Dr Atkins book

Using the Ar Atkins book will not fully heal you but you might, if you use his

book, find that some of your pain and spasm is lowered

You will have to buy that book from a book shop, or borrow it from the library

In that book there is a section called the Induction diet. It is that diet that

you most need to concentrate on. If you follow Dr Atkins advice you will be able

to get your carb intake down to less than 20g per day

This will lead you into what we call ketosis. If you are in ketosis your

symptoms should be less

But Nettie I need to talk to you a lot more about this because sustaining

ketosis is not always easy, and if we are eating low low carb like that but not

eating sufficinet nutrition it can be dangerous

Bee has a list of foods and supplements that we all need to take. but right now

I suspect this might all be too much for you. If you have just one person in

your life who you can bring to this site to chat with us, this will help too. I

will explain to them how and why the diet works and everything you need to do

If you do not have anybody that can help you right now, then the Atkins book

really is your best bet. dr Atkins has some really good advice and if you stick

with his book you should find some improvement

Nettie, just let us know you are there and i will keep sending you stuff, and

the others here will send you stuff too

Please do not be buying this medication below WE DO NOT NEED IT. But this video

does show how ketosis works and you might get a hint from this how it helps our

bodes get well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwvA_KjEr0

Email me direct if you want to

Love Joanne

[Guest guest]

Tina,

I have done message therapy in the past.  I think it helps us detoxify.  I

felt so much better when I was doing this on a regular basis. I just can't

afford it right now.

Lovell

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To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:18 PM

Subject: Re: Ayurverdic and Chinese Medicine

 

How about massage therapy?Anyone do that?I am very interested in Chinese

medicine,also.They say,touch,and human hands can heal.Using oils with massage.I

still want to use the Raindrop technoque for scoliosis,Have not gotten around to

order the kit yet.Kind of expensive.

Nettie: Ketosis

Nettie

I remember how several months ago you shared with us how ill you are and as I

recall it was very severe. I am wondering if your illness is as severe now as it

was then?

You may recall that I told you I am using a diet to control my pain and spasm,

but that the diet is also not always easy to do when we are not used to it

The diet I am on is Bees diet. I think I have sent you a link. If you do not

have the link to Bees stuff then please let me know and I will forward

everything to you

If you have already looked at Bees stuff and you think her diet might be too

difficult for you at this time then another way of doing the diet is to use the

Dr Atkins book

Using the Ar Atkins book will not fully heal you but you might, if you use his

book, find that some of your pain and spasm is lowered

You will have to buy that book from a book shop, or borrow it from the library

In that book there is a section called the Induction diet. It is that diet that

you most need to concentrate on. If you follow Dr Atkins advice you will be able

to get your carb intake down to less than 20g per day

This will lead you into what we call ketosis. If you are in ketosis your

symptoms should be less

But Nettie I need to talk to you a lot more about this because sustaining

ketosis is not always easy, and if we are eating low low carb like that but not

eating sufficinet nutrition it can be dangerous

Bee has a list of foods and supplements that we all need to take. but right now

I suspect this might all be too much for you. If you have just one person in

your life who you can bring to this site to chat with us, this will help too. I

will explain to them how and why the diet works and everything you need to do

If you do not have anybody that can help you right now, then the Atkins book

really is your best bet. dr Atkins has some really good advice and if you stick

with his book you should find some improvement

Nettie, just let us know you are there and i will keep sending you stuff, and

the others here will send you stuff too

Please do not be buying this medication below WE DO NOT NEED IT. But this video

does show how ketosis works and you might get a hint from this how it helps our

bodes get well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwvA_KjEr0

Email me direct if you want to

Love Joanne

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info about detooxify Beets juice well with carrots and apple

but after i feel clear but no matter my upper bacl feels I feels I would

feel would feel scary bad. I find using a large water bottle and quiet

feels much better and lasts longer. Please find out about MS Dr Terry she

works in helping her patients and other to adapt to the best way of eating I

will give you the link the next time I write.Thanks for your piece the our

current answer to decreasing our pain with fms.NETTIE1234

In a message dated 2/16/2012 4:53:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,

lovell_w_2002@... writes:

Tina,

I have done message therapy in the past. I think it helps us detoxify. I

felt so much better when I was doing this on a regular basis. I just can't

afford it right now.

Lovell

________________________________

From: " _tinasmith448@..._ (mailto:tinasmith448@...) "

<_tinasmith448@..._ (mailto:tinasmith448@...) >

To: _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured )

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:18 PM

Subject: Re: Ayurverdic and Chinese Medicine

How about massage therapy?Anyone do that?I am very interested in Chinese

medicine,also.They say,touch,and human hands can heal.Using oils with

massage.I still want to use the Raindrop technoque for scoliosis,Have not

gotten

around to order the kit yet.Kind of expensive.

----- Original Message -----

From: " Joanne Ford " <_joannesford@..._

(mailto:joannesford@...) >

To: _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured )

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:12:36 PM

Subject: Re: Ayurverdic and Chinese Medicine

I am slowly but surely learning about the Ayurverdic & Chinese stuff. You

know something their ways

are so much more simpler and straight forward than ours. It is just hard

to find the time some times but

the more I see of what they do to keep well the more I see just how far

brainwashed I have been

I work with a lot of people from India, Asia, China and so on. I am with

them all day, almost every day

They are so calm and sweet and like you say so much more healthier. But

having said that a few of the

women are telling me that they are struggling with carb addiction and some

are now using that stupid

hormone injection. Since trying that they have been telling me their

health has gone down.Anyway, I have

told them about the low carbing and some of them are trying it.

Did i tell you about the two Muslim girls I know that are actually on bees

diet? I could not believe

it when they told me. I was on the market chatting away telling a customer

all about the diet and out

site and so on when this Asian lady, she was only young, said to me, are

you talking about Bees diet

off the Internet? I said yes, she said, oh I am on that and my friend is

too

I have been to see them a few times now and regard both of them as good

friends. They are doing the diet

and one of them is doing it very precisely, but they also have the kefir

drinks from the Ecology diet

The one that is doing it very precisely has excellent health, beautiful

skin, a wonderful calm spiritual manner

and just simply adorable. She has four children too. In fact it was

because of Candida issues with her and her

first child is why she took on the challenge of the diet Her other three

children have never had Candida and do

not get other health problems either. Her first child is doing well now

The other girl, the one that spoke to me on the market, she was struggling

more, last time that I saw her, but

having said that she had not been doing it for as long. She had diabetes

and kidney problems, that is why she

had decided to do the diet, and she had seen a lot of improvement but she

was still addicted to carbs and was

cheating a bit. I told her about how I used water fasting to curb it. In

their culture they water fast quit a lot and

she said at those times of year when she fasted she did feel better. When

they fast they eat in the morning and

in the evening but not all day. I said well I only now have two proper

meals and a snack. I said perhaps if you get

your mind and effort more like when you fast and maybe just try to have 2

or 3 meals this might help. she said

she did think this would because at the times when she does fast she is

always happy

It is strange isnt it how we can do something and feel OK and then just

stop doing it. I was like that for a long time

with this diet. I used to stick to it and then suddenly just start eating

carbs. I was scared of the fat and I know this

kind of influenced me, brain washed i guess. But I was addicted too, just

could not resist them, just always went

back doing it. I dont now though. Mckenna has helped, but i too I

just have a better attitude to it. I am me in

ketosis, I am definately not me when I am not

Love Joanne

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From: Giannini < _bondgeek21@..._

(mailto:bondgeek21@...) >

To: _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured )

Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 18:24

Subject: Re: Joanne Tumeric

It states on the bottle to take it three times a day but I have only been

taking

it once a day. I have also asked my husband to take it but I think he

forgets

most days. Also I wanted to check with my doctors my primary said she

thought it

would be good for me and my pain doctor wanted to get back to me. So far I

have

not noticed any bad reactions. I have lots of friends from India who use

the

spice in their everyday cooking and they dont seem to have as many health

issues. I have also been drinking white organic tea at night which I read

that

about cancer prevention.

I am going to increase to two pills and I will let you know how I am doing

_http://www.kew.org/plant-cultures/plants/turmeric_grow_it.html_

(http://www.kew.org/plant-cultures/plants/turmeric_grow_it.html)

Ciao-

Ange

________________________________

From: Joanne Ford < _joannesford@..._

(mailto:joannesford@...) >

To: " _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured ) " <

_fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured ) >

Sent: Thu, February 16, 2012 10:11:22 AM

Subject: Re: Tumeric

I have been reading a lot about Turmeric, mainly because it is considered

to be

a very good spice to help with Parkinson's, there is even scientific

evidence of

this, and I have been wondering if I should give my dad some, but where I

struggle is anything I take that is plant based affects me

I think if I had it has a fresh herb, added to my meal I might be OK, but

I

suspect that if I used it as a supplement I might not be able to digest

it, or

it might affect me some other way, so I have not tried it as yet

And i have not given it to my dad because when ever I give him something

new to

do he always does not do something else he is supposed to be doing. It is

hard

to get the balance with him. But I do know that a lot of people do think

that

Turmeric is very good for lowering inflammation and this seems to be

particularly so with Parkinsons

if you do use it will you let me know how you get on.

Really would be appreciated

Joanne

________________________________

From: Giannini < _bondgeek21@..._

(mailto:bondgeek21@...) >

To: _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured )

Sent: Thursday, 16 February 2012, 17:58

Subject: Re: Nettie: Ketosis Supplements

Hi Tina

Thank you for sharing- My husband just got me some Glucosomaine

supplements for

Valentines day. Our primary doctor had just recommended that she thought

it

could help with my head pain

Has anyone tried Turmeric?

Ciao-

Ange

________________________________

From: " _tinasmith448@..._ (mailto:tinasmith448@...) " <

_tinasmith448@..._ (mailto:tinasmith448@...) >

To: _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured )

Sent: Thu, February 16, 2012 8:43:41 AM

Subject: Re: Nettie: Ketosis

I just went out for coffee again,with my friend with finro,and I cannot

believe

how much better she seems,We have been going to for coffee alot,and for

the last

couple of years,she was so sick,she barely ever left her house.Has 2

special

needs kids to take care of.Anyway,I do beleive the homeopathic liver detox

has

helped.Also,the grapeseed extract and glocosamine and chondroiten.She

still is

not doing GAPS,but went off the night shades.Says,she feels good enough to

walk,so,we may meet at the mall to start walking.Still trying to get her

off the

meds.She is also adding NAC.N-Acytl-Cysteine.I have been giving my son

this for

awhile,and I believe,this is what has gotten his seziures under control.I

think,these things would help,some others here.At least,worth a shot,I

think.The

grapeseed extract is good for the eyes,circulation.Glucosamine for

inflammation.Forgot to add,the fact that A few years ago,I was trying to

loose

weight.Was jumping on my kids trampoline.Like 100 times.Plus taking

calcium and

other supplements,but,I heard and felt my ankles crack.I had no

insurance.I

never went to the coctor.I just kept taking anti

inflammatories.Glucosomaine and

chondroiten,MSM.EFAS/Silica.I still have swelling around my ankes that

never

went away,but,I can walk on them.They no longer bother me.Some good

supplements

to add,if not already taking them.

----- Original Message -----

From: " Joanne Ford " < _joannesford@..._

(mailto:joannesford@...) >

To: _fibromyalgiacured _

(mailto:fibromyalgiacured )

Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:15:05 AM

Subject: Nettie: Ketosis

Nettie

I remember how several months ago you shared with us how ill you are and

as I

recall it was very severe. I am wondering if your illness is as severe now

as it

was then?

You may recall that I told you I am using a diet to control my pain and

spasm,

but that the diet is also not always easy to do when we are not used to it

The diet I am on is Bees diet. I think I have sent you a link. If you do

not

have the link to Bees stuff then please let me know and I will forward

everything to you

If you have already looked at Bees stuff and you think her diet might be

too

difficult for you at this time then another way of doing the diet is to

use the

Dr Atkins book

Using the Ar Atkins book will not fully heal you but you might, if you use

his

book, find that some of your pain and spasm is lowered

You will have to buy that book from a book shop, or borrow it from the

library

In that book there is a section called the Induction diet. It is that diet

that

you most need to concentrate on. If you follow Dr Atkins advice you will

be able

to get your carb intake down to less than 20g per day

This will lead you into what we call ketosis. If you are in ketosis your

symptoms should be less

But Nettie I need to talk to you a lot more about this because sustaining

ketosis is not always easy, and if we are eating low low carb like that

but not

eating sufficinet nutrition it can be dangerous

Bee has a list of foods and supplements that we all need to take. but

right now

I suspect this might all be too much for you. If you have just one person

in

your life who you can bring to this site to chat with us, this will help

too. I

will explain to them how and why the diet works and everything you need to

do

If you do not have anybody that can help you right now, then the Atkins

book

really is your best bet. dr Atkins has some really good advice and if you

stick

with his book you should find some improvement

Nettie, just let us know you are there and i will keep sending you stuff,

and

the others here will send you stuff too

Please do not be buying this medication below WE DO NOT NEED IT. But this

video

does show how ketosis works and you might get a hint from this how it

helps our

bodes get well

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwvA_KjEr0_

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNwvA_KjEr0)

Email me direct if you want to

Love Joanne

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