Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hello Tina I just left my cousin a msg. I agree with Joanne that she should have another blood test. Also maybe something is going on with her liver to cause this issue. Does she eat lots of eggs? Also I read people with high levels of b12 can cause anxiety so maybe that is why she is crying. http://www.ehow.com/list_7260169_causes-elevated-b12-levels.html Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 10:16:42 AM Subject: Re: Tina Thankyou .Yes,I would be interested in what her doctors says.I would like to know,what would cause high B12,if you don`t take supplements and you don`t eat much meat.There is so much talk of it being so hard to absorb B12 orally.It doesn`t make sense to me.That would be interesting,if a glass of wine would lower it.She doesn`t drink at all,but if it helped,then,maybe she would.Why,would B supplements make you cry?I used to cry alot before I started taking them. > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and it > > >was > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor was > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > >Washington > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my medical > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We discussed > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid levels > > >and > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do >about > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in the > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > " ) > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. >1965) > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught >natural > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in the > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private practice. >He > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood asthma > >and > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 I think,she has had it checked more than once,but I will ask her,when she is in a btter mood.She was really negative,and jaded today.Has been since she took a nose dive.I really do not enjoy talking to her when she is like this.I know,she needs to talk about what is bothering her,so I let her talk,but,I have a hard time listening to her at times.I will mention about the high B12 and anxiety thing. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 3:33:45 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina  Hello Tina I just left my cousin a msg. I agree with Joanne that she should have another blood test. Also maybe something is going on with her liver to cause this issue. Does she eat lots of eggs? Also I read people with high levels of b12 can cause anxiety so maybe that is why she is crying. http://www.ehow.com/list_7260169_causes-elevated-b12-levels.html Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 10:16:42 AM Subject: Re: Tina Thankyou .Yes,I would be interested in what her doctors says.I would like to know,what would cause high B12,if you don`t take supplements and you don`t eat much meat.There is so much talk of it being so hard to absorb B12 orally.It doesn`t make sense to me.That would be interesting,if a glass of wine would lower it.She doesn`t drink at all,but if it helped,then,maybe she would.Why,would B supplements make you cry?I used to cry alot before I started taking them. > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and it > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor was > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > >Washington > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my medical > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We discussed > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid levels > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do >about > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in the > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > " ) > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. >1965) > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught >natural > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in the > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private practice. >He > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood asthma > >and > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Tina, I did a little reading about high B12... No one seems concerned about it ... even specialists... I would be. Your sister might want to get her nutrient levels tested, including D3 ... 25(OH), the circulating form, not 1, 25, the active form. Sometimes one source of out-of-whack can cause another .. > I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and it > > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor was > > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my medical > > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We discussed > > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid levels > > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > > >about > > > > > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in the > > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > > " ) > > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in the > > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood asthma > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Hi Tina I think the liver detox would be best and if she can find some meat that does not make her cry like eggs or grass fed beef or chicken. Also if she has kidney issues she should stay away from anything carbonated. I get them when I was drinking soda from the carbonation but you can also get them from calcium. Is she on meds for her renaulds syndrome ? That could be causing the kidney issue. I know its important to keep warm and not to smoke when you have renaulds syndrome- What state do you live in? Is it cold right now? Maybe in the summer she can try to stop taking her meds or reducing them and then after a few weeks get her b12 levels checked again. It may be a side effect that is rare and it often seems doctors dont always know all the side effects. When I was on blood thinners and ate onions I would be violently ill throwing up and when I was telling my doctor he never asked me what I had to eat. Then after the third time my husband and I thought the only thing that was the same was onions so I looked it up and it is a rare side effect. I told my doctor and he said he never heard of it. They switched my blood thinner to Pradaxa which made my migraines 100x worse and recently a friend who is a physical therapist in Alaska who had patients with the increased head aches and migraines. I again mentioned it to my doctor. I know its so hard to listen when people are not feeling good and they just need to vent and they really are not listening to solutions. I go through the same thing with my sister. I hope she starts to feel better Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 1:20:25 PM Subject: Re: Tina I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and >it > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor >was > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my >medical > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We >discussed > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid >levels > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > >about > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in >the > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > " ) > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in >the > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private >practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood >asthma > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Her husband won`t stand for her buying anything organic.He checks each and every reciet.She has to give him all the reciets,of every single things she spends money one.We live in Michigan.It has been a pretty mild winter.Last couple days been around 50.Was almost 70 yesterday.She doesn`t drink any carbonated drinks.Mostly water and tea.She drinks way to much water I think.Had this patient,when i worked at the nursing home,who drank way to much water and her electrolytes were way out of whack. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:04:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina  Hi Tina I think the liver detox would be best and if she can find some meat that does not make her cry like eggs or grass fed beef or chicken. Also if she has kidney issues she should stay away from anything carbonated. I get them when I was drinking soda from the carbonation but you can also get them from calcium. Is she on meds for her renaulds syndrome ? That could be causing the kidney issue. I know its important to keep warm and not to smoke when you have renaulds syndrome- What state do you live in? Is it cold right now? Maybe in the summer she can try to stop taking her meds or reducing them and then after a few weeks get her b12 levels checked again. It may be a side effect that is rare and it often seems doctors dont always know all the side effects. When I was on blood thinners and ate onions I would be violently ill throwing up and when I was telling my doctor he never asked me what I had to eat. Then after the third time my husband and I thought the only thing that was the same was onions so I looked it up and it is a rare side effect. I told my doctor and he said he never heard of it. They switched my blood thinner to Pradaxa which made my migraines 100x worse and recently a friend who is a physical therapist in Alaska who had patients with the increased head aches and migraines. I again mentioned it to my doctor. I know its so hard to listen when people are not feeling good and they just need to vent and they really are not listening to solutions. I go through the same thing with my sister. I hope she starts to feel better Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 1:20:25 PM Subject: Re: Tina I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and >it > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor >was > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my >medical > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We >discussed > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid >levels > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > >about > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in >the > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > " ) > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in >the > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private >practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood >asthma > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 wow 70 that is great, I live in Northern California and we have had a mild winter - we are supposed to get five inches of rain today and tomorrow but so far not a drop. Maybe its her electrolytes if out of whack can cause lots of problems. And you can drink too much water. Does she do any coconut oil supplements or coconut oil? Maybe coconut water? I know they sell it at our Costco. I have tried it its not great tasting to me one lady told me she puts in a protein shake and she had great skin and was in her 70's. And if she can get the coconut oil maybe she should rub some on her stomach liver area. Her husband sounds like a controlling person- poor thing probably adding to her not feeling well. Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 2:16:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Her husband won`t stand for her buying anything organic.He checks each and every reciet.She has to give him all the reciets,of every single things she spends money one.We live in Michigan.It has been a pretty mild winter.Last couple days been around 50.Was almost 70 yesterday.She doesn`t drink any carbonated drinks.Mostly water and tea.She drinks way to much water I think.Had this patient,when i worked at the nursing home,who drank way to much water and her electrolytes were way out of whack. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:04:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Hi Tina I think the liver detox would be best and if she can find some meat that does not make her cry like eggs or grass fed beef or chicken. Also if she has kidney issues she should stay away from anything carbonated. I get them when I was drinking soda from the carbonation but you can also get them from calcium. Is she on meds for her renaulds syndrome ? That could be causing the kidney issue. I know its important to keep warm and not to smoke when you have renaulds syndrome- What state do you live in? Is it cold right now? Maybe in the summer she can try to stop taking her meds or reducing them and then after a few weeks get her b12 levels checked again. It may be a side effect that is rare and it often seems doctors dont always know all the side effects. When I was on blood thinners and ate onions I would be violently ill throwing up and when I was telling my doctor he never asked me what I had to eat. Then after the third time my husband and I thought the only thing that was the same was onions so I looked it up and it is a rare side effect. I told my doctor and he said he never heard of it. They switched my blood thinner to Pradaxa which made my migraines 100x worse and recently a friend who is a physical therapist in Alaska who had patients with the increased head aches and migraines. I again mentioned it to my doctor. I know its so hard to listen when people are not feeling good and they just need to vent and they really are not listening to solutions. I go through the same thing with my sister. I hope she starts to feel better Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 1:20:25 PM Subject: Re: Tina I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and >it > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor >was > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my >medical > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We >discussed > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid >levels > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > >about > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in >the > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > " ) > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in >the > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private >practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood >asthma > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 My first husband was in the army,stationed at Fort Ord.We had to live off post for almost a year,but then got on post housing.Yes,her husband is controlling.He has a temper.Never actually hit her,but gets verbally abusive.He lived out of state for over a year.Got a better job in Georgia,and he went out ahead,and she was to stay behind and try and sell the house and land,and take care of 2 special needs kids.Would have to get the house picture perfect,each time the realator called at a moments notice.Hard,when you are always sick,and your kids trash the place as fast as you clean it.They did not sell the house,and the job was too much stress,so he came back here,and got his old job back.He makes good money.I could not handle being married to him. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:32:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina  wow 70 that is great, I live in Northern California and we have had a mild winter - we are supposed to get five inches of rain today and tomorrow but so far not a drop. Maybe its her electrolytes if out of whack can cause lots of problems. And you can drink too much water. Does she do any coconut oil supplements or coconut oil? Maybe coconut water? I know they sell it at our Costco. I have tried it its not great tasting to me one lady told me she puts in a protein shake and she had great skin and was in her 70's. And if she can get the coconut oil maybe she should rub some on her stomach liver area. Her husband sounds like a controlling person- poor thing probably adding to her not feeling well. Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 2:16:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Her husband won`t stand for her buying anything organic.He checks each and every reciet.She has to give him all the reciets,of every single things she spends money one.We live in Michigan.It has been a pretty mild winter.Last couple days been around 50.Was almost 70 yesterday.She doesn`t drink any carbonated drinks.Mostly water and tea.She drinks way to much water I think.Had this patient,when i worked at the nursing home,who drank way to much water and her electrolytes were way out of whack. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:04:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Hi Tina I think the liver detox would be best and if she can find some meat that does not make her cry like eggs or grass fed beef or chicken. Also if she has kidney issues she should stay away from anything carbonated. I get them when I was drinking soda from the carbonation but you can also get them from calcium. Is she on meds for her renaulds syndrome ? That could be causing the kidney issue. I know its important to keep warm and not to smoke when you have renaulds syndrome- What state do you live in? Is it cold right now? Maybe in the summer she can try to stop taking her meds or reducing them and then after a few weeks get her b12 levels checked again. It may be a side effect that is rare and it often seems doctors dont always know all the side effects. When I was on blood thinners and ate onions I would be violently ill throwing up and when I was telling my doctor he never asked me what I had to eat. Then after the third time my husband and I thought the only thing that was the same was onions so I looked it up and it is a rare side effect. I told my doctor and he said he never heard of it. They switched my blood thinner to Pradaxa which made my migraines 100x worse and recently a friend who is a physical therapist in Alaska who had patients with the increased head aches and migraines. I again mentioned it to my doctor. I know its so hard to listen when people are not feeling good and they just need to vent and they really are not listening to solutions. I go through the same thing with my sister. I hope she starts to feel better Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 1:20:25 PM Subject: Re: Tina I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and >it > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor >was > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my >medical > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We >discussed > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid >levels > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > >about > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in >the > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > " ) > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in >the > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private >practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood >asthma > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sounds like she would of been better if he stayed in Georgia. I can not imagine what the poor woman has to endure on a daily basis. There was a women here in a town south of us who killed her autistic son and then herself cause she could not get any help. I am not sure why she took him out of his school - first we did not even know she was married. On the news a friend said she could not work because she had to take care of him. So sad I could not believe what I heard. http://www.mercurynews.com/sunnyvale/ci_20120851/sunnyvale-police-mother-killed-\ 22-year-old-son Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 2:41:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina My first husband was in the army,stationed at Fort Ord.We had to live off post for almost a year,but then got on post housing.Yes,her husband is controlling.He has a temper.Never actually hit her,but gets verbally abusive.He lived out of state for over a year.Got a better job in Georgia,and he went out ahead,and she was to stay behind and try and sell the house and land,and take care of 2 special needs kids.Would have to get the house picture perfect,each time the realator called at a moments notice.Hard,when you are always sick,and your kids trash the place as fast as you clean it.They did not sell the house,and the job was too much stress,so he came back here,and got his old job back.He makes good money.I could not handle being married to him. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:32:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina wow 70 that is great, I live in Northern California and we have had a mild winter - we are supposed to get five inches of rain today and tomorrow but so far not a drop. Maybe its her electrolytes if out of whack can cause lots of problems. And you can drink too much water. Does she do any coconut oil supplements or coconut oil? Maybe coconut water? I know they sell it at our Costco. I have tried it its not great tasting to me one lady told me she puts in a protein shake and she had great skin and was in her 70's. And if she can get the coconut oil maybe she should rub some on her stomach liver area. Her husband sounds like a controlling person- poor thing probably adding to her not feeling well. Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 2:16:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Her husband won`t stand for her buying anything organic.He checks each and every reciet.She has to give him all the reciets,of every single things she spends money one.We live in Michigan.It has been a pretty mild winter.Last couple days been around 50.Was almost 70 yesterday.She doesn`t drink any carbonated drinks.Mostly water and tea.She drinks way to much water I think.Had this patient,when i worked at the nursing home,who drank way to much water and her electrolytes were way out of whack. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:04:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Hi Tina I think the liver detox would be best and if she can find some meat that does not make her cry like eggs or grass fed beef or chicken. Also if she has kidney issues she should stay away from anything carbonated. I get them when I was drinking soda from the carbonation but you can also get them from calcium. Is she on meds for her renaulds syndrome ? That could be causing the kidney issue. I know its important to keep warm and not to smoke when you have renaulds syndrome- What state do you live in? Is it cold right now? Maybe in the summer she can try to stop taking her meds or reducing them and then after a few weeks get her b12 levels checked again. It may be a side effect that is rare and it often seems doctors dont always know all the side effects. When I was on blood thinners and ate onions I would be violently ill throwing up and when I was telling my doctor he never asked me what I had to eat. Then after the third time my husband and I thought the only thing that was the same was onions so I looked it up and it is a rare side effect. I told my doctor and he said he never heard of it. They switched my blood thinner to Pradaxa which made my migraines 100x worse and recently a friend who is a physical therapist in Alaska who had patients with the increased head aches and migraines. I again mentioned it to my doctor. I know its so hard to listen when people are not feeling good and they just need to vent and they really are not listening to solutions. I go through the same thing with my sister. I hope she starts to feel better Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 1:20:25 PM Subject: Re: Tina I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and >it > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor >was > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my >medical > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We >discussed > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid >levels > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > >about > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in >the > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > " ) > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in >the > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private >practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood >asthma > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 6:18:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina  Sounds like she would of been better if he stayed in Georgia. I can not imagine what the poor woman has to endure on a daily basis. There was a women here in a town south of us who killed her autistic son and then herself cause she could not get any help. I am not sure why she took him out of his school - first we did not even know she was married. On the news a friend said she could not work because she had to take care of him. So sad I could not believe what I heard. http://www.mercurynews.com/sunnyvale/ci_20120851/sunnyvale-police-mother-killed-\ 22-year-old-son Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 2:41:17 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina My first husband was in the army,stationed at Fort Ord.We had to live off post for almost a year,but then got on post housing.Yes,her husband is controlling.He has a temper.Never actually hit her,but gets verbally abusive.He lived out of state for over a year.Got a better job in Georgia,and he went out ahead,and she was to stay behind and try and sell the house and land,and take care of 2 special needs kids.Would have to get the house picture perfect,each time the realator called at a moments notice.Hard,when you are always sick,and your kids trash the place as fast as you clean it.They did not sell the house,and the job was too much stress,so he came back here,and got his old job back.He makes good money.I could not handle being married to him. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:32:49 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina wow 70 that is great, I live in Northern California and we have had a mild winter - we are supposed to get five inches of rain today and tomorrow but so far not a drop. Maybe its her electrolytes if out of whack can cause lots of problems. And you can drink too much water. Does she do any coconut oil supplements or coconut oil? Maybe coconut water? I know they sell it at our Costco. I have tried it its not great tasting to me one lady told me she puts in a protein shake and she had great skin and was in her 70's. And if she can get the coconut oil maybe she should rub some on her stomach liver area. Her husband sounds like a controlling person- poor thing probably adding to her not feeling well. Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 2:16:37 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Her husband won`t stand for her buying anything organic.He checks each and every reciet.She has to give him all the reciets,of every single things she spends money one.We live in Michigan.It has been a pretty mild winter.Last couple days been around 50.Was almost 70 yesterday.She doesn`t drink any carbonated drinks.Mostly water and tea.She drinks way to much water I think.Had this patient,when i worked at the nursing home,who drank way to much water and her electrolytes were way out of whack. ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 5:04:28 PM Subject: Re: Re: Tina Hi Tina I think the liver detox would be best and if she can find some meat that does not make her cry like eggs or grass fed beef or chicken. Also if she has kidney issues she should stay away from anything carbonated. I get them when I was drinking soda from the carbonation but you can also get them from calcium. Is she on meds for her renaulds syndrome ? That could be causing the kidney issue. I know its important to keep warm and not to smoke when you have renaulds syndrome- What state do you live in? Is it cold right now? Maybe in the summer she can try to stop taking her meds or reducing them and then after a few weeks get her b12 levels checked again. It may be a side effect that is rare and it often seems doctors dont always know all the side effects. When I was on blood thinners and ate onions I would be violently ill throwing up and when I was telling my doctor he never asked me what I had to eat. Then after the third time my husband and I thought the only thing that was the same was onions so I looked it up and it is a rare side effect. I told my doctor and he said he never heard of it. They switched my blood thinner to Pradaxa which made my migraines 100x worse and recently a friend who is a physical therapist in Alaska who had patients with the increased head aches and migraines. I again mentioned it to my doctor. I know its so hard to listen when people are not feeling good and they just need to vent and they really are not listening to solutions. I go through the same thing with my sister. I hope she starts to feel better Ciao- Ange ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Mon, March 12, 2012 1:20:25 PM Subject: Re: Tina I don`t think she eats a lot off eggs either.I had her doing a homeopathic liver detox,and she thinks,that was why she was feeling better.Then she went off it,to try another remedy.She wanted to go back on the liver detox,though,she said it took like 3 weeks until she felt better.I do think,that high B12 is associated with kidney problems.Seems,we were reading something about that.She went to a kidney specialist,who told her,her kidney`s were fins,though,she was having a lot of pain in her kidney area.Possibly,becasue she was doing the blood type diet and eating lots of fruits and veggies.If you have a problem with oxalates,I think,you can get kidney stones.After she quit eating so many fruits and veggies,the pain finally went away in her kidney area,but,the liver detox may have helped?She does not like meat very much.Forces herself to eat some.We had this book,Balance Your Brain,Balance Your Life,and the doctors would tells natural ways to get your dopamine up,so she was eating lots of beef.Then,she complains that it makes her cry,so,I think,she stops eating as much.She was trying supplements that get your dopamine up,but could not take them.She frequently has bouts of high blood pressure,and she weighs like 100lbs.Also has renaulds syndrome,where her hands and feet turn red,purple,blue.She looses feeling in them,they are always cold. > > > > > > > > > > I just had the most incredible doctor visit I've ever experienced, and >it > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >over the phone! .... thought some of you might be interested. The doctor >was > > > > > > >Christie Tompkins out of the Tahoma Clinic (Dr. V. ), > > >Washington > > > > > > > > > > > > >State. It was a one-hour consultation. Prior to the call, I sent my >medical > > > > > >history and results of two rounds of blood work recently taken. We >discussed > > > > > > >hormonal levels, liver status, lipid levels, nutrient levels, thyroid >levels > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >fibro & MVP. Dr. Tompkins even knew about the MTHFR gene and what to do > >about > > > > > > > > > >it! I'm so glad I arranged for this communication. For those who live in >the > > > > > > >U.S., I would highly recommend a similar consultation. > > > > > " ) > > > > > PS Here's a little info on Dr. , the director of Tahoma Clinic: > > > > > > > > > > Dr. is the Medical Director of Tahoma Clinic in Renton, > > > > > > > > > >Washington, where he also practices medicine. A Harvard University (A.B. > >1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >and University of Michigan graduate (M.D. 1969), Dr. has taught > >natural > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >biochemical medical treatments since 1983 to thousands of physicians in >the > > > > >USA, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Europe, and Japan. In 1982, Dr. personally developed the use of > > > >bio-identical estrogens, and was the first to use DHEA in private >practice. > > >He > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >originated successful natural treatment for elimination of childhood >asthma > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > > > > >D-mannose treatment for E. coliUTI, and discovered cobalt's effect on > >estrogen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >detoxification. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Tell us when you get sound, one of us will send you the site. It is a great teaching tool to understand scripture, it simply explains how God has worked through the ages and explains many mysteries in the Bible. Now I am in the sciences so this leads to a fascinating rediscovery of dozens of technologies wrtten in the Bible. Where scientists have spent millions of dollars to find, test, and prove theories...the Bible has had it in the books all this time. I have always read scripture and discovered many of these mysteries and explained them to my husband. I explained time, dimensions, and matter that the Bible has written within the lines. If you know just a bit of these subjects then you can find them in Scripture and understand. I love scripture...this is one of the subjects where I learn science!  ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Tina  What are you sorry about?i`m still interested in your interpretation.I don`t have sound at the monet,so can`t watch any videos.Much of the stuff in the bible,though,I don`t get it all.Far from it. > > I am sorry Tina...I am discovering a lot in scripture and in my > > excitement I ran too fast even for myself. I am not used to > > running, LOL. > Glad you are on board! > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: tina B12 > > >  > Tina >  > I get blown away sometimes with how much you know, and I am so so so glad you have joined us. Your character too, shines through and this even more blows me over. >  > You already know I know about a lot of this you mention here but I did not know about the b12 and lack of empathy. I do know my dad lacks empathy of late, which I have been putting down to addiction and the l-dopa, but perhaps it is low b12. Parkinsons generally have low B12. I will read up on this and consider what might be best for him to do. I know he is eating enough, it will be absorbtion. That L-dopa interfers with b6 absorbtion, who knows perhaps it is interfering with b12 too. from memory I think B 12 absorbtion usually takes place in the ilium. I have had problems with the ilium in the past, not now I do not think, but I have in the past. Anyway I will look into this more seriously, regarding my dad >  > Love Joanne > >  Tina said......................... > >  > > I don`t know.You girls are to deep for me.I just took it to mean,that real food.Food that god make can heal the sick.Man is contaminating the food.GMOS and soil stripped of nitrients and food prepared the wrong way,is why people are sick.PLus all the toxins.Many people are being healed with the proper food,nutrients.People are mentally ill from toxins,and deficiencies,like B vitamins and amino acids.Neurotransmitter deficiencies may contribute to lack of empathy,at least,that is what the doctors said in the book Balance your brain,balnce your life.I also read that B12 deficiency may contribute to lack of empathy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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