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It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has 46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the rind, which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

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This is sounding a whole lot like a sales pitch. My diet is full of

antioxidants and I get my supplements from my ND. I have nothing to lose by

taking Xango but I feel I have nothing to gain either. For those whose

diets are low in antioxidants, it might help, not the rest of us.

Kenda

> It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has 46 anti

> oxidants to help fight different things going on in your body. No side

> effects!

> Xango is the only juice made from the rind, which that is where all the

> xanthons are found. Pam

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Pam, Please don't be offended by our comments regarding this juice. It may indeed be something that could be helpful to the women on our group. We will leave it up to each woman to decide. I guess what you need to understand is that there a million and one products out there that purport to help us--everything from these juices to hormone sprays and miracle creams, rubs, clays, seaweed, magnets and more. Lots of multi-level marketing stuff too. There is just no way for every woman to try everything, unless she were independently wealthy and had nothing else to do with her time but wade through these claims. Some of these things are entirely valid, others are just cool and unusual ways to get nutrients and minerals, albeit expensive and the latest fad in nutritionals. I've seen this for years. I've tried lots of things, and

as I said, there are no magic bullets! I am glad you like the mangosteen juice....lots of people do and have found great results with it. I could say the same thing about noni juice, pomegranate juice, Seasilver, Juice Plus, Mannatech, Blue-green algae, Shaklee and Amway products, and I am sure there are lots of others! A 30 day guarantee is great too...but I bet most people don't take advantage of it. Thanks again for sharing...it is this kind of sharing that helps us all, and I do appreciate it. Just keep in mind that there are lots and lots of products out there that make similar claims. Pattymorrellpam@... wrote: It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has 46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the rind, which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

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I used to eat mangosteens all the time in Java, where I lived for several years. They grow everywhere. It's so funny to me to see them juiced and sold for very expensive prices in pyramid schemes. The xanthones in mangosteens may have some good properties, but it makes me sad to see people get snookered into paying high prices for something that in the country of origin is an everyday food.

Bindi

Re: Mangosteen juice, Pam

Pam,

Please don't be offended by our comments regarding this juice. It may indeed be something that could be helpful to the women on our group. We will leave it up to each woman to decide.

I guess what you need to understand is that there a million and one products out there that purport to help us--everything from these juices to hormone sprays and miracle creams, rubs, clays, seaweed, magnets and more. Lots of multi-level marketing stuff too.

There is just no way for every woman to try everything, unless she were independently wealthy and had nothing else to do with her time but wade through these claims.

Some of these things are entirely valid, others are just cool and unusual ways to get nutrients and minerals, albeit expensive and the latest fad in nutritionals. I've seen this for years. I've tried lots of things, and as I said, there are no magic bullets!

I am glad you like the mangosteen juice....lots of people do and have found great results with it. I could say the same thing about noni juice, pomegranate juice, Seasilver, Juice Plus, Mannatech, Blue-green algae, Shaklee and Amway products, and I am sure there are lots of others!

A 30 day guarantee is great too...but I bet most people don't take advantage of it.

Thanks again for sharing...it is this kind of sharing that helps us all, and I do appreciate it. Just keep in mind that there are lots and lots of products out there that make similar claims.

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Bindi, a pyramid scheme is when there is no product or service

provided to the customer. People sign up with cash and receive

nothing in the mail or no product delivery. So Pam wouldn't be

involved in that type of business. There is alot of negativity

placed on multi-level marketing companies. Actually, our own

Canadian government is a big pyramid scheme -- with alot of our tax

dollars spent on personal political pleasures. I was involved with

Herbalife for years -- the products are high quality, my health

improved immensely and everyone has an equal chance to build their

own business. God had other plans for me, so I quit the business end

but still enjoy the products when I can.

It's too bad alot of people have had " sour " experiences with MLM's,

such as being invited over to someone's house for supper and finding

out it's an Amway pitch. That's not the way I was trained to share

my business venture with others.

Happy Healing to All,

Love, Sunny :)

> It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has

46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your

body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the rind,

which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

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Sunny,

There might be some multi-level marketing companies that are decent, but I personally have little respect for any company that is interested in making big profits off of people's health issues. People are so vulnerable when they are having trouble with their health, so easily swayed by the promise of a cure. I am, too, even though I am as skeptical as heck about anything that is not backed by sound science.

Just one look at Xango's slick website tells me all I need to know. The only way to purchase any of their mangosteen juice is to "become a member" and nowhere is it mentioned what the price of a bottle of juice is. But I know, because I know a "member" who sells it-- it's $25 a bottle!

If Xango is as great as is claimed, there would be scientists all over the stuff, it would be in JAMA and PubMed and everywhere, and you wouldn't have to join anything to get it. I'm not saying it isn't good stuff, but come on! It reminds me of the drug companies that refuse to allow generic versions of their AIDS drugs to be sold to poor people in Africa.

Sadly, those of us who are ill and bushwhacking our way through both the traditional and alternative medicine jungles have to chart our own courses. Thank goodness for the internet and groups like this!

Bindi

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Bindi, a pyramid scheme is when there is no product or service provided to the customer. People sign up with cash and receive nothing in the mail or no product delivery. So Pam wouldn't be involved in that type of business. There is alot of negativity placed on multi-level marketing companies. Actually, our own Canadian government is a big pyramid scheme -- with alot of our tax dollars spent on personal political pleasures. I was involved with Herbalife for years -- the products are high quality, my health improved immensely and everyone has an equal chance to build their own business. God had other plans for me, so I quit the business end but still enjoy the products when I can.It's too bad alot of people have had "sour" experiences with MLM's, such as being invited over to someone's house for supper and finding out it's an Amway pitch. That's not the way I was trained to share my business venture with others.Happy Healing to All,Love, Sunny :)> It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has 46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the rind, which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.>

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Yes, MLM makes it expensive, but that is not a

reason to think it is not good. JAMA and the AMA

do not publicize things doctors cannot make money

on, and natural items are not something doctors

can make $$$ on. That is why you do not hear

about most natural items in those publications, not because they are no good.

Lynda

At 10:03 PM 10/9/2006, you wrote:

>Sunny,

>There might be some multi-level marketing

>companies that are decent, but I personally have

>little respect for any company that is

>interested in making big profits off of people's

>health issues. People are so vulnerable when

>they are having trouble with their health, so

>easily swayed by the promise of a cure. I am,

>too, even though I am as skeptical as heck about

>anything that is not backed by sound science.

>Just one look at Xango's slick website tells me

>all I need to know. The only way to purchase any

>of their mangosteen juice is to " become a

>member " and nowhere is it mentioned what the

>price of a bottle of juice is. But I know,

>because I know a " member " who sells it-- it's $25 a bottle!

>If Xango is as great as is claimed, there would

>be scientists all over the stuff, it would be in

>JAMA and PubMed and everywhere, and you wouldn't

>have to join anything to get it. I'm not saying

>it isn't good stuff, but come on! It reminds me

>of the drug companies that refuse to allow

>generic versions of their AIDS drugs to be sold to poor people in Africa.

>

>Sadly, those of us who are ill and bushwhacking

>our way through both the traditional and

>alternative medicine jungles have to chart our

>own courses. Thank goodness for the internet and groups like this!

>

>Bindi

>

> Re: Mangosteen juice, Pam

>

>Bindi, a pyramid scheme is when there is no product or service

>provided to the customer. People sign up with cash and receive

>nothing in the mail or no product delivery. So Pam wouldn't be

>involved in that type of business. There is alot of negativity

>placed on multi-level marketing companies. Actually, our own

>Canadian government is a big pyramid scheme -- with alot of our tax

>dollars spent on personal political pleasures. I was involved with

>Herbalife for years -- the products are high quality, my health

>improved immensely and everyone has an equal chance to build their

>own business. God had other plans for me, so I quit the business end

>but still enjoy the products when I can.

>

>It's too bad alot of people have had " sour " experiences with MLM's,

>such as being invited over to someone's house for supper and finding

>out it's an Amway pitch. That's not the way I was trained to share

>my business venture with others.

>

>Happy Healing to All,

>

>Love, Sunny :)

>

>

> > It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has

>46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your

>body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the rind,

>which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

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Uh oh, Let's not go there Ladies! I think it is great that we are all open to the ideas of natural medicine, alternative medicine, herbal medicine, homeopathic medicine...there are so many valid viewpoints and successes with therapies! Let's stay optimistic about what is working for us and forge ahead with perseverance in the quest for health. Openmindedness is a must, and I am just so thankful that we are sharing our various experiences. We have had so many women get better. I trust that many of you are going to continue to find success in healing, no matter what viewpoints we have that differ, but I think the common link is that we need to be aware of how our bodies have changed, and pursue a path of clean living that will build new health for our ravaged bodies. Keep focused on the positive! That is extremely necessary for

healing! Patty freebindi <bindi@...> wrote: I am not sure exactly what it was that I said that was personally insulting to you or anyone here. If you or anyone else was insulted, I apologize for that. I have no problem voicing my opinion, even if it is at odds with others, and I try to do it in a nuetral, non-personal manner and I assume that it is taken as one person's opinion, not fact. I am sorry if that is not the message that was

received. Bindi Re: Mangosteen juice, Pam> > > >> > > >Bindi, a pyramid scheme is when there is no product or service> > > >provided to the customer. People sign up with cash and receive> > > >nothing in the mail or no product delivery. So Pam wouldn't be> > > >involved in that type of business. There is alot of negativity> > > >placed on multi-level marketing companies. Actually, our own> > > >Canadian government

is a big pyramid scheme -- with alot of our tax> > > >dollars spent on personal political pleasures. I was involved with> > > >Herbalife for years -- the products are high quality, my health> > > >improved immensely and everyone has an equal chance to build their> > > >own business. God had other plans for me, so I quit the business end> > > >but still enjoy the products when I can.> > > >> > > >It's too bad alot of people have had "sour" experiences with MLM's,> > > >such as being invited over to someone's house for supper and finding> > > >out it's an Amway pitch. That's not the way I was trained to share> > > >my business venture with others.> > > >> > > >Happy Healing to All,> > > >> > > >Love, Sunny :)> > > >> > >

>> > > > > It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has> > > >46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your> > > >body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the rind,> > > >which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------> > > >----------> > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US> > > >(and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> >

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Bindi, I'm with you on that! There are alot of people out there who

just want to make money. It's sad.

I came across a bunch of wonderful, loving people with Herbalife and

if you become a distributor,you automatically get 30% off the retail

price, with no pressure to sell products. It's similar to being a

member of Costco...paying a membership fee every year.

My health dramatically improved in a short time. Simple, basic

nutrition -- dehydrated food. Herbalife has 50 doctors and

scientists, on a board, working along with herbalists to make the

product safe. It takes the guesswork out of it for me. I've shopped

at Health Food stores alot in my life, and usually would end up with

1/2 full bottles of product sitting in my shelf, because, frankly

they were of poor quality. Not to say some are great products. I'm

of the mind, that I have to experience something myself before I will

share it with others. And ofcourse, we all have our sacred journeys -

and are guided from within, and from God (with my beliefs) to what

is best for us. I've always encouraged my family and friends to

receive suggestions, then take time to meditate and pray for your

personal answer.

Love to you and all the wonderful, loving women here,

Sunny :)

> > It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It has

> 46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your

> body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the

rind,

> which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

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You got that right! Have you seen the movie, " Patch " ? He has

the right idea. I have a similar dream for a healing center in the

foothills in Alberta. I wrote him when I was desparate to have my

implants removed last year, to see if his hospital was finished in

West Virginia. It isn't. Lack of money, ofcourse. He has been

persecuted by the medical industry big time.

He did reply personally, to me. I was testing his compassion level.

He passed! See the movie, if you haven't. It's inspiring.

Love,

Sunny :)

> >

> > >Sunny,

> > >There might be some multi-level marketing

> > >companies that are decent, but I personally have

> > >little respect for any company that is

> > >interested in making big profits off of people's

> > >health issues. People are so vulnerable when

> > >they are having trouble with their health, so

> > >easily swayed by the promise of a cure. I am,

> > >too, even though I am as skeptical as heck about

> > >anything that is not backed by sound science.

> > >Just one look at Xango's slick website tells me

> > >all I need to know. The only way to purchase any

> > >of their mangosteen juice is to " become a

> > >member " and nowhere is it mentioned what the

> > >price of a bottle of juice is. But I know,

> > >because I know a " member " who sells it-- it's $25 a bottle!

> > >If Xango is as great as is claimed, there would

> > >be scientists all over the stuff, it would be in

> > >JAMA and PubMed and everywhere, and you wouldn't

> > >have to join anything to get it. I'm not saying

> > >it isn't good stuff, but come on! It reminds me

> > >of the drug companies that refuse to allow

> > >generic versions of their AIDS drugs to be sold to poor people

in Africa.

> > >

> > >Sadly, those of us who are ill and bushwhacking

> > >our way through both the traditional and

> > >alternative medicine jungles have to chart our

> > >own courses. Thank goodness for the internet and groups like

this!

> > >

> > >Bindi

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Lynda, WELL SAID!! I still remember a German neighbor when I was

little, who gave my Mom spearmint leaves for my tummy ache. We had

just moved to Edmonton (the capital city of Alberta) from a farm. My

Mom stuck with natural methods for awhile, and then I remember the

Pepto Bismol entered the household! YUK! lol

Three cheers for God's natural plants! Physician, heal thyself!

Love & Healing Prayers,

Sunny :)

> > > > It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It

has

> > >46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your

> > >body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the

rind,

> > >which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Every summer my daughter goes to a performing arts camp run by Wavy Gravy (any Dead Heads out there?) and Patch is always there-- he is such a crazy, loving person, everybody just wants to grab him and hug him. He has long gray hair that he dyes blue, and always wears crazy clown clothes and nutty earrings. He's a riot. All the little girls run after him, calling "Patchy! Patchy!"

Once, at the "Big Show" they do at the end of camp for the parents, he led us through some "exercises" he said he'd done with the kids during camp. First, he had us each turn to a stranger on our right whom we didn't know, and hug them for three minutes. Then, he had us turn to a stranger on our left and stare into their eyes and repeat "I love you" over and over for three minutes. Three minutes is a long time! It was a very freaky, amazing and liberating experience, and to know that our kids had done the same was powerful. Patch is all about LOVE. He's the best.

Bindi

Re: Mangosteen juice, Pam

You got that right! Have you seen the movie, "Patch "? He has the right idea. I have a similar dream for a healing center in the foothills in Alberta. I wrote him when I was desparate to have my implants removed last year, to see if his hospital was finished in West Virginia. It isn't. Lack of money, ofcourse. He has been persecuted by the medical industry big time.He did reply personally, to me. I was testing his compassion level. He passed! See the movie, if you haven't. It's inspiring.Love,Sunny :)> >> > >Sunny,> > >There might be some multi-level marketing> > >companies that are decent, but I personally have> > >little respect for any company that is> > >interested in making big profits off of people's> > >health issues. People are so vulnerable when> > >they are having trouble with their health, so> > >easily swayed by the promise of a cure. I am,> > >too, even though I am as skeptical as heck about> > >anything that is not backed by sound science.> > >Just one look at Xango's slick website tells me> > >all I need to know. The only way to purchase any> > >of their mangosteen juice is to "become a> > >member" and nowhere is it mentioned what the> > >price of a bottle of juice is. But I know,> > >because I know a "member" who sells it-- it's $25 a bottle!> > >If Xango is as great as is claimed, there would> > >be scientists all over the stuff, it would be in> > >JAMA and PubMed and everywhere, and you wouldn't> > >have to join anything to get it. I'm not saying> > >it isn't good stuff, but come on! It reminds me> > >of the drug companies that refuse to allow> > >generic versions of their AIDS drugs to be sold to poor people in Africa.> > >> > >Sadly, those of us who are ill and bushwhacking> > >our way through both the traditional and> > >alternative medicine jungles have to chart our> > >own courses. Thank goodness for the internet and groups like this!> > >> > >Bindi> >> >> >> >>

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That's awesome! He said he gets alot more out of clowning and his

peace talks right now.

When he and his son were in Sri Lanka, he sent me a postcard, out of

the blue. What a guy, eh? He had very kind words for me and lots of

compassion regarding my implant situation, and had some words I

shouldn't repeat on the site, about his take on those type of

surgeries.

Love & Prayers,

Sunny :)

> > >

> > > >Sunny,

> > > >There might be some multi-level marketing

> > > >companies that are decent, but I personally have

> > > >little respect for any company that is

> > > >interested in making big profits off of people's

> > > >health issues. People are so vulnerable when

> > > >they are having trouble with their health, so

> > > >easily swayed by the promise of a cure. I am,

> > > >too, even though I am as skeptical as heck about

> > > >anything that is not backed by sound science.

> > > >Just one look at Xango's slick website tells me

> > > >all I need to know. The only way to purchase any

> > > >of their mangosteen juice is to " become a

> > > >member " and nowhere is it mentioned what the

> > > >price of a bottle of juice is. But I know,

> > > >because I know a " member " who sells it-- it's $25 a bottle!

> > > >If Xango is as great as is claimed, there would

> > > >be scientists all over the stuff, it would be in

> > > >JAMA and PubMed and everywhere, and you wouldn't

> > > >have to join anything to get it. I'm not saying

> > > >it isn't good stuff, but come on! It reminds me

> > > >of the drug companies that refuse to allow

> > > >generic versions of their AIDS drugs to be sold to poor

people

> in Africa.

> > > >

> > > >Sadly, those of us who are ill and bushwhacking

> > > >our way through both the traditional and

> > > >alternative medicine jungles have to chart our

> > > >own courses. Thank goodness for the internet and groups like

> this!

> > > >

> > > >Bindi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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Yes, I think natural should be the first choice.

Lynda

At 07:16 PM 10/10/2006, you wrote:

>Lynda, WELL SAID!! I still remember a German neighbor when I was

>little, who gave my Mom spearmint leaves for my tummy ache. We had

>just moved to Edmonton (the capital city of Alberta) from a farm. My

>Mom stuck with natural methods for awhile, and then I remember the

>Pepto Bismol entered the household! YUK! lol

>

>Three cheers for God's natural plants! Physician, heal thyself!

>

>Love & Healing Prayers,

>

>Sunny :)

>

>

> > > > > It has a 30 day back guaranty! What do you have to lose? It

>has

> > > >46 anti oxidants to help fight different things going on in your

> > > >body. No side effects! Xango is the only juice made from the

>rind,

> > > >which that is where all the xanthons are found. Pam

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > > >----------

> > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US

> > > >(and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

> > > > >

> > > >

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> > >

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He sounds really amazing!

Re: Mangosteen juice, Pam

You got that right! Have you seen the movie, "Patch "? He has the right idea. I have a similar dream for a healing center in the foothills in Alberta. I wrote him when I was desparate to have my implants removed last year, to see if his hospital was finished in West Virginia. It isn't. Lack of money, ofcourse. He has been persecuted by the medical industry big time.He did reply personally, to me. I was testing his compassion level. He passed! See the movie, if you haven't. It's inspiring.Love,Sunny :)> >> > >Sunny,> > >There might be some multi-level marketing> > >companies that are decent, but I personally have> > >little respect for any company that is> > >interested in making big profits off of people's> > >health

issues. People are so vulnerable when> > >they are having trouble with their health, so> > >easily swayed by the promise of a cure. I am,> > >too, even though I am as skeptical as heck about> > >anything that is not backed by sound science.> > >Just one look at Xango's slick website tells me> > >all I need to know. The only way to purchase any> > >of their mangosteen juice is to "become a> > >member" and nowhere is it mentioned what the> > >price of a bottle of juice is. But I know,> > >because I know a "member" who sells it-- it's $25 a bottle!> > >If Xango is as great as is claimed, there would> > >be scientists all over the stuff, it would be in> > >JAMA and PubMed and everywhere, and you wouldn't> > >have to join anything to get it. I'm not saying> > >it isn't good stuff, but

come on! It reminds me> > >of the drug companies that refuse to allow> > >generic versions of their AIDS drugs to be sold to poor people in Africa.> > >> > >Sadly, those of us who are ill and bushwhacking> > >our way through both the traditional and> > >alternative medicine jungles have to chart our> > >own courses. Thank goodness for the internet and groups like this!> > >> > >Bindi> >> >> >> >>

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