Re: These are meds and supplements I am taking...any ideas how ?

[Guest guest]

, You can read more about each of these supplement by doing a websearch for them. . . One capsule a day is considered a Probiotic pearls dose . . . I'm concerned though that it doesn't contain the wide variety of live organisms that you need. . . Nor do I think that one capsule could do the job . . . It would be a decent maintenance dose once you get things under control. They say you can take it with or without food . . . However, for the most benefit, I'd recommend taking it on an empty stomach, with a big glass of water. Yeastzyme contains enzymes that will help provide a favorable environment in your gut for the good organisms to grow. . . They recommend three capsules a day . . . One with each meal should do it. Super Thistle X is going to help your liver move the toxins out . . . They recommend one capsule two to three times a day . . . Here again, one with each

meal should do it. As to your other medications . . . Don't take Diflucan at the same time that you take probiotics . . . IMHO, the will cancel each other out because Diflucan is trying to kill off organisms while Probiotic pearls is trying to put them back. . . As I see it, one would do better to take an anti-fungal long enough to suppress the negative organisms (One bottle of Fungal Defense), then switch to a probiotic - (my favorite is Primal Defense) . . . to start rebuilding the good organisms. It takes a long time to reestablish enough good organisms so they can suppress the bad ones. Since you already have these products, you may as well use them . . . They're not going to hurt you . . . Following an anti-fungal diet is every bit as important as taking any of these products. Do check with your doctor though

before following my recommendations . . . I'm only relaying to you what I've learned through my experiences. I'm always learning something new! Hugs and prayers, Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene & ,

That's confusing. Dr. Kolb has me take Diflucan with either Primal Defense or the Probiotic Pearls.

Penni

Re: These are meds and supplements I am taking...any ideas how ?

,

You can read more about each of these supplement by doing a websearch for them. . . One capsule a day is considered a Probiotic pearls dose . . . I'm concerned though that it doesn't contain the wide variety of live organisms that you need. . . Nor do I think that one capsule could do the job . . . It would be a decent maintenance dose once you get things under control. They say you can take it with or without food . . . However, for the most benefit, I'd recommend taking it on an empty stomach, with a big glass of water.

Yeastzyme contains enzymes that will help provide a favorable environment in your gut for the good organisms to grow. . . They recommend three capsules a day . . . One with each meal should do it.

Super Thistle X is going to help your liver move the toxins out . . . They recommend one capsule two to three times a day . . . Here again, one with each meal should do it.

As to your other medications . . . Don't take Diflucan at the same time that you take probiotics . . . IMHO, the will cancel each other out because Diflucan is trying to kill off organisms while Probiotic pearls is trying to put them back. . .

As I see it, one would do better to take an anti-fungal long enough to suppress the negative organisms (One bottle of Fungal Defense), then switch to a probiotic - (my favorite is Primal Defense) . . . to start rebuilding the good organisms. It takes a long time to reestablish enough good organisms so they can suppress the bad ones.

Since you already have these products, you may as well use them . . . They're not going to hurt you . . .

Following an anti-fungal diet is every bit as important as taking any of these products.

Do check with your doctor though before following my recommendations . . . I'm only relaying to you what I've learned through my experiences. I'm always learning something new!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Penni, I find it confusing too! . . . As I understand it, Diflucan attacks fungal organisms . . . In the process, it will suppress beneficial organisms (nothing like antibiotics though) . . . I'd prefer not to use prescription antifungals, but if one does, it would make sense to use it only long enough to start the process. Then switch to natural products. Prescription antifungals are hard on the liver. . . When you kill off fungal organisms, the die-off is toxic. The liver must be able to flush the toxins. If the liver is sluggish, this will make one feel really bad. As I see it, it's better to go at it slowly so the liver has time to do it's job. Of course following an antifungal diet is essential. Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

Did you read that Diflucan suppresses beneficial organisms? I had never

heard this before, although Dr. Leu always has me take probiotics when I

take Diflucan.

Diflucan is hard on the liver but it is very beneficial in jump starting an

attack against yeast that could be very difficult to beat. Dr. Leu

generally prescribes it for 2 to 3 weeks at a time. I also always take

liver supplements while taking prescription drugs so my liver doesn't get

bogged down.

Kenda

> Penni,

>

> I find it confusing too! . . . As I understand it, Diflucan attacks fungal

> organisms . . . In the process, it will suppress beneficial organisms (nothing

> like antibiotics though) . . .

>

> I'd prefer not to use prescription antifungals, but if one does, it would

> make sense to use it only long enough to start the process. Then switch to

> natural products. Prescription antifungals are hard on the liver. . . When you

> kill off fungal organisms, the die-off is toxic. The liver must be able to

> flush the toxins. If the liver is sluggish, this will make one feel really

> bad. As I see it, it's better to go at it slowly so the liver has time to do

> it's job.

>

> Of course following an antifungal diet is essential.

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Kenda . . . I believe the way you describe using Diflucan is best . . . Take it to jump start an antifungal program . . . while protecting the liver . . . The problem is when someone stops after Diflucan, believing everything is taken care of. It's not! . . . If Diflucan can get rid of the bad organisms, it will affect the good ones as well. Probiotics must be continued indefinitely . . . Eventually the good bacteria will keep the bad bacteria in check. Some good organisms can never be replaced. There are some books on this I've heard discussed on NPR, but I don't remember the authors or titles. I'm afraid there are a lot more people affected by systemic fungal problems than anyone can imagine! . . . Too many antibiotics, pesticides, herbicides, processed food and sugar! Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Rogene,

It is definitely a balance that is hard to keep up. I have used Diflucan a

couple of times when I didn't seem to making changes as quickly as I wanted.

There are natural remedies as well that are good with yeast. Generally I

switch over to those after the Diflucan.

I don't believe Diflucan will affect the good organisms negatively. In

killing off the yeast, it seems to me that it will only help the good

bacteria to thrive -- as long as you are introducing them.

Kenda

> Kenda . . .

>

> I believe the way you describe using Diflucan is best . . . Take it to jump

> start an antifungal program . . . while protecting the liver . . .

>

> The problem is when someone stops after Diflucan, believing everything is

> taken care of. It's not! . . . If Diflucan can get rid of the bad organisms,

> it will affect the good ones as well.

>

> Probiotics must be continued indefinitely . . . Eventually the good bacteria

> will keep the bad bacteria in check. Some good organisms can never be

> replaced. There are some books on this I've heard discussed on NPR, but I

> don't remember the authors or titles.

>

> I'm afraid there are a lot more people affected by systemic fungal problems

> than anyone can imagine! . . . Too many antibiotics, pesticides, herbicides,

> processed food and sugar!

>

> Rogene