Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 In a message dated 21/1/02 10:51:05 GMT Standard Time, agnes@... writes: Thank you for the in depth info. nne > You can use white, plastic colander that fits and put it into toilet bowl. > Holes shoild not be bigger then 2 mm, or small stones (that are very > common) will go straight through. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2002 Report Share Posted January 21, 2002 At 04:20 21.01.2002 -0500, you wrote: >I am new to this group and to the concept of flushing to remove the gall >stones and have a very strange question - how are you able to count the >stones eliminated and tell if they are soft, crusty, solid etc. nne, You can use white, plastic colander that fits and put it into toilet bowl. Holes shoild not be bigger then 2 mm, or small stones (that are very common) will go straight through. Then, after empting intestines, when you see something inside colander (stones), you wash them with water. Then you put them on the white paper, to dry them. Then you can count them, take a photo, cut them, weight them, examine them with rubber glowes, knife, microscope, water, nose, vinegar, oils, ... You can try to find what can dissolve them, for example. If you have any knowledge of chemistry, try to use it. To preserve them for longer then 1 day, you can freez them or put thme in formaldehyde or vinegar. If you don't, it may happen they get " attacked " by intestinal bacteria, and converted into fatty cholesterol acids. Some stones are so solid that they don't need to be preserved. Unles you wear a special mask, you will for sure notice the smell, (very different then feces). You will see that they are not soap, or feces. Soap or feces is water soluable, liver and GB stones are not. Soap smell different. Feces smell different. Oil smell different. Soap and feces are heavier then water, most stones float, even after many days in water. Why should you try to keep your stones ? As there is nothing in modern science to be found about those stones and flushing, we, everybody here, including you, are just collecting facts and experiences to bridge that scientific gap. You and I have chance to contribute to modern science as much as anyone else. It is very important to take a photo and/or to keep those stones. After one year you may forget how big stones you passed 12 months gao, and how many? After few months you may get a chance or money to anlyze them and know what they are made from? After few years you may want to show it to your kids, grandchildren, relatives, friends, doctor, ... How many of you asked question: What are the facts and science about flush and stones? Why don't may doctor recomends it ? Why ther is almost nothing in literature about stones, liver and link to allergies, shoulder pain, ashtma, colitis, cancer ... ? If you want your children to avoid asking that questin, then you, and we all should do something to collect as many fats as we can. Photo is the most simple proof of succesful flush. Your story as also a great contribution to science. IMPORTANT!!!!! Few things to remember when posting your story! Do not forget to write: - Your age and gender (gender, because names like le, Denis, Robin, Dax, P.T., J.K. ... can be nick names, or real names both of man and women. This group is international, and not everyone knows that le is a male name. ) - your health and symptoms with as many details as you can remember. - number of stones you got, size, colour, (even smell), and take a photo, (does not have to be digital !!!) - if this is your 3rd or 6th or 12th flush, say that. Say also if and how do you feel, after so many flushes, ... - how many people you personally know who did this cleanse - how many members of your familly should do this cleanse .... - a new members are signing to this group every day, do not be affraid to repeat all this info after every cleanse you do. Help yourself, and help others. Bring facts to the surface. If you don't do ypour best to bring the facts, tomorrow, you will be watching you grandchildren suffer from allergies, asthma, ear pain, ... harmfull medications, and you will not be able to change that, becuse your son-in-law (or daughter-in-law or ...) is a doctor or sceptic and/or he /she does not believe in what you say, because that is just a " quackery " . Do your best to meke this group better support group, with more facts. Regards Agnes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2002 Report Share Posted January 22, 2002 Agnes wrote in Digest Number 928: >You can use white, plastic colander that fits and put it into toilet bowl. >Holes shoild not be bigger then 2 mm, or small stones (that are very >common) will go straight through. How about plastic window screening? Would the spacing between the openings be suitable? Or what about an old stocking? The advantage of these seems to me that they can be disposed of easily and are therefore more acceptable esthetically. I recall that one of the books is sold with some netting. Could someone describe it: spacing, overall size, material, fastening to toilet. >Then you can count them, take a photo, cut them, weight them, examine them >with rubber glowes, knife, microscope, water, nose, vinegar, oils, ... >You can try to find what can dissolve them, for example. Has anyone any experience with having the stones analyzed? Would the place to do it be a pathology lab at a local hospital? How much might such an analysis cost, and would it be worthwhile? ----------------------- IRA L. JACOBSON ----------------------- mailto:laser@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2002 Report Share Posted January 23, 2002 Ira, I think a collander is best, because it has bigger holes that won't get as easily stopped up. You can bleach it when you're done and re-use it. I use the same one for my bowel cleanses when I do home colonics on my " board " . of DH Ira said: How about plastic window screening? Would the spacing between the openings be suitable? Or what about an old stocking? " People are like stain glass windows; they sparkle and shine when the sun is out, but when the darkness sets in, their true beauty is revealed only if there is alight within. " -Kubler Ross " Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. " Holy Bible --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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