Guest guest Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Raw fruits and veggies do not deteriate the bones because when you are eating the correct ammount it supplies the body with enough calcium to support the bones. This plan combine with a good exercise program is the right way to go. I am a Vegan Personal Trainer and Pro Natural Bodybuilder. I am also a Christian and humans were never supposed to eat meat remember. ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:41 PM Subject: Re: : Raw foods  Joanne Can I ask you what you think about this article, like you I have raw dairy and raw eggs, but wondering about the value of raw meat ? http://sowersparable.blogspot.com/2006/06/vonderplanitz-anaphylaxis-and.html Alison ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2012, 23:15 Subject: : Raw foods  You are right to raise these points, and you are not a nag LOL. I cannot really comment on the meat, I have not eaten much of it, I actually intend to but because I just end up throwing it all in my crockpots often without thinking much of it there is rarely any raw meat around here to eat I know that for years I had few gut bacteria, or indeed much in my gut to help me. My Candida was I guess doing its best, but the environment was making her manic, she was working like a lunatic trying to clear up all my mess Since I have started feeding her what make her work correctly no more pain or symptoms. I also think that now my toxic gut has been cleared up from the diet, the detox and so on, I think I do now have other pathogens, I can certainly eat foods that I never used to be able to eat and I know these foods require pathogens to be digested so I must now have some that I did not used to have, otherwise i would be more aware of my Candida and I am not getting much Candida in the gut, only in my spine, that is is that is Candida, I still do not know what that pathogen is but I do know it is doing a good job and it is clearing my mess, just as they have elsewhere in my body Took me a long time to appreciate that it is healthy pathogens that get us well and I now see if they are fed right they do not go manic and they do work correctly. I stopped using anti-fungals long ago and I have managed to nurture my Candida into a good shape, she does come out when I eat wrong, when I allow my emotions to run out of control and when I am zapped with toxicity, but even when I know she is there, the pain and healing reactions in general are very mild, very bearable I do not bother with the raw meat, not that I am against it just routine around here does not promote it, but I eat raw eggs and raw milk all the time. I am never ill now, not only fibro gone but no other illnesses either, I know the raw eggs and raw milk are building up my immune system and I know they are strengthening the much needed pathogens I lost in the past using antibiotics and other pesticide type products My dog eats raw meat, about a third of the time. This is the amount recommended by the Weston Price Foundation and others. He gets a lot of organic meat and bones too. He too is never ill. I pay his pet insurance in case he gets knocked down or something, but at his yearly checks the vet says he is the healthiest and leanest King charles Spaniel he knows These dogs, like us humans are prone to weight gain, heat trouble and brain problems when they rat too much cooked meats and processed foods. My dog does not even get fleas or worms, there is nothing in his body for them to eat Most of the people I know that are eating paleo simply eat organic grass fed meat and wild meat, the Weston Price folk that eat raw tell me they freeze their orgnaicn grass fed meat for 2 weeks to kill the parasites and they soak their fish in lemon juice for the same reason. I really cannot comment since I do not eat much raw meat but I am certain without doubt that eating raw eggs and raw milk has helped my body build up the much needed pathogens, I only hope it is going to continue and i will soon have a full set For anybody following this thread, wondering what the heck I am talking about here is an article that explains some of this The only people I know that have cured allergies, autoimmune illness and degenerative illness without drugs are folk following the paleo diet, the GAPS diet, the weston price diet and bees diet. All of these diet advocate eating raw products and building an inner ecology that encourages a wide range of pathogens, we cannot do this if we avoid all the raw foods I have mentioned http://www.raw-living-food-success.com/cancer-does-not-stay-in-remission-with-a-\ vegetarian-diet.html Love Joanne ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Saturday, 21 January 2012, 22:26 Subject: RE: Paz: Meat and other foods raw or cooked  >>>Raw milk, raw eggs, and raw meat all have health benefits and if they are good quality it is better to eat them raw, or rare. Agreed, but I do hope everyone would keep in mind general food safety issues, i.e. raw pork carries a trichinosis risk, salmonella cautions re eggs and poultry meat, etc. In purchased meats, rare steaks and roasts are safer than rare hamburger because with large cuts, anything exposed in handling is cooked. With hamburger, much as I prefer rare, I'll only have it that way if it's my own beef from the butcher I know. Commercially processed hamburger gets cooked through for safety here. P, taking off my farmer/food safety nag hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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