Re: Laurie: coconut oil, healing reactions, and our sensitivities

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Joanne,

Okay, glass it it is! Thanks! Before GAPS I was definitely taking at least

about 5 T a day - put it on my yams, on my crackers, or just a teaspoon on its

own... The first months on GAPS it was okay; seems now things that were okay

before are suddenly giving me trouble, which so many people are reporting on the

GAPS forum and something McBride addresses in her book and on her FAQ's on her

site.. Will re-introduce again soon. I'm thinking if I could but tolerate the

supplements rec by Bee and McBride I'd probably be healing faster...

When you say that you are " in ketosis " and the pain is stable and doesn't dial

up, I " get " this state... I want to be there all the time too, but for me it

only has persisted 4 days in a row over 3 months. My problem is I've tried to

introduce things too close together. New strategy is to wait 5-7 days before

introducing a new thing, and just on the tip of a toothpick. Also, I need to

fast after a few days of eating.

When the pain dials up what do you take for this? McBride rec. aspirin. I

haven't taken it yet - mostly I use magic brew (a sea salt salt & baking soda

solution) as a remedy, magnesium, coffee enemas, do EFT exercises & massage the

gate points... if it's really rough, 10-20 minutes on oxygen helps a lot btw.

Your symptoms sound rough... mine are rough too, but not the same. I don't get

fatigue or mental confusion. Just pain in the lower body from the tips of my

toes to a bit above my waist.

When my pain began I was given tons of EACH of the drugs this guy the video

mentions - didn't work, couldn't tolerate. I'm done with these crazy people who

push these drugs one on top of the other and make you feel worse than before and

a zombie too!

The GABA info you mention is something I discussed with my dr recently... she

said these neurotransmitters run the body.. I don't quite understand all this so

I look forward to hearing more when your time permits.

Keeping hope alive!

Laurie

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Joanne,

Okay, I'm starting to get this!!! Today I made some broth with squash (which

bothered me the other day - tongue burning, shaking, hyper and greater pain, and

I had it with A LOT of meat and A LOT of butternut squash and not much fat).

Today I made a zuke type squash and same thing, though I only had a few

tablespoons of the yummy sweet liquid! The exact same reactions happened with

the tongue but I didn't " go for it " out of starvation - I stopped and the

reactions were there a bit and normally I would just fast until tomorrow because

eating anything else this day would make the pain worse. But I tried an

experiment: I calculated for the first time as I continue to study Bee's site

the appropriate grams for my fats, protein, and carbs.... OH, that's revelatory

but more, get this: I don't have a scale, but I made a very small cup of broth

trying to appropriate these percentages. LOTS of chicken fat in my broth (I'm

guessing the broth itself is super high in protein even without the meat, so I

skipped the meat), and just a teaspoon of some cauliflower (where I might the

other day use a half head of cauliflower) - it was steamed yesterday.

Delicious! As I ate, my pain went WAY DOWN immediately and I felt a flush of

feeling GOOD. So is this the kenogenic state you're talking about????

Are all vegetables considered carbs? Is the califlower a carb? Obviously I'm

staying away from the squash!!! My intuition about getting on some supplements

was right on... I am terribly malnurished from these past months and frightfully

thin and reactive. Will I be LESS reactive if I'm eating with these

percentages? I'm beginning to see and feel the distinctions between GAPS and

Bee's approach.

Before I did GAPS and was a bit better, I was happiest with just a plate of

bacon for breakfast, friends called me the butter queen, loved bbq t-bone steak

best, and I could drink whipped creme happily. I was never a bread fan, but I

definitely lived off sugars (even though not processed - dates, raisins, dried

Turkish apricots that I baked in banana cookies). I was even taken by a friend

to a nearby Italian Restaurant once a week where the food stimulated my appetite

and at times I ate heartily! I actually could eat a few things - marinated

chicken in fatty sauce my favorite! A salad drenched in mayo & eggs etc, a

pasta dish heavy with creme and bacon, and fried halibut cheeks.. of course I I

was dipping the sourdough breads in olive oil and finished it all with sinful

desserts and finally after some months of this I crashed and couldn't eat any of

this or anything... I felt best not eating at all... so it wasn't that many

months ago that I could actually eat a variety, so this should be hopeful

right??

So, is this NOT a leaky porous gut problem???

Thanks for your continued generosity and patience with me!!

Laurie

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Joanne,

Thank you again! I now have a scale. Okay, a 4 oz stick of butter is

approximately 110 grams. I need 135 grams of fat daily from my calculation, so

that gives a good visual for the amount to shoot for using a mix of various

types of fats - I think this is what you're saying, right?? In the old days

eating daily I could drink some whipping creme no problem and get to that amount

easily, but now I'm certainly not making that much chicken fat each day to get

to that level. I'll start to re-introduce coconut oil tomorrow!!!

In terms of protein, protein would be the muscle meat right? Does the weight

of the broth count too? Or is the broth something else altogether and not

figured in? I need 53 g. of protein each day. Not much really. I don't know

what a pack of meat is... like luncheon meat? The protein is just the muscle

meat that I boil, right?

How so you prepare your meat? You say you made your meat in a crock pot, so you

boil all your meats always (goose, etc)? Do you roast them ever or broil a piece

of fish or meat for example? Tonight I took some boiled chicken and put it in a

bowl with lots of chicken fat on it and put it in the oven on 250 for about 10

minutes to warm - it made it kind of roasted. The meat soaked up the fat so it

was dry still so I just kept adding more and more fat until it was super moist

with the fat and it tasted good and made me feel good too! Used lots of

Himalian salt too and drank a little of magic brew with this.

One thing I keep wondering is about the skin on the chicken - I like to eat

this, but is that recommended and considered fat after it is cooked too? I asked

that on the GAPS forum but no one really knew...

And I used carbs in my bowl of meat & fat (a little overcooked califlower) as a

garnish just like you! Carbs I'm assuming are the veggies, right?

Once I ate this (with about 350 m of magnesium) I was so relaxed that I fell

into bed and took a nice short nap, which I rarely do. I can see why it is

important to take the supplements WITH food, as it can mitigate any potential

reactions and make you feel better - if I hadn't taken the magnesium I probably

would have been in big pain.

So you are putting your supplements in the food, or taking them before or after

the food?

I'm making a list of the supplements Bee recommends. Now I have to figure out

brands to make an order... I will try again many of these in the forms she

recommends...

So many questions... sorry.

Thanks for your support... I'm glad you think I may make a faster recovery or

reduction in pain that I ever expected. Bee says to expect to stay on this - one

month for every year sick, which really has been since birth, so 5 years for me

looks like!

Laurie

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