Re: Re: Gene: Why i am on a high fat diet

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I also understand and realize what you guys are facing. I am learning new things

about health everyday so I can help others.. I wass just trying to explain the

process of the vegan lifestyle to cerning the cancer and the protein. You

are doing a awesome job.

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:53 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Gene: Why i am on a high fat diet

 

Gene

The difficulty some of us have here is that we can no longer digest plant food.

This is common in some folk with fibro and children with Autism ADHD and so on

We can digest certain fats and certain proteins, and if we are seriously

debilitated some of us need ketosis. It is very difficult to do a ketogenic diet

simply eating plant food, and even worse if you cannot digest it. We are not

against vegetarianism or veganism, it is simply that we cannot digest carb

foods, neither processed carbs or plant food carbs

I hear what you are saying about the antioxidants, and I understand this. It may

seem that on a high fat diet we would have less antioxidants, but we don't. What

happens is when we enter ketosis the body creates glutathione, and uses this

antioxidant to remove toxins

I was never a vegan or vegetarian, but I used to eat a lot of plant food.

Because my small intestine was in such bad shape I could not digest the plant

foods on that diet and it made me very poorly, I have been OK since I changed

over to a high fat diet. I do know other people that have gotten well using

vegan style diets and I have been wondering how this could be when it is the

opposite to what I am doing. I know they do get well doing this, but there are a

lot of people on Bees board where the vegan style diet did not work for them,

these folk, like me are doing better on the high fat diet. Both of my children

cannot easily digest plant food either. My dad who has parkinson's was also on a

high plant food diet, since changing to the high fat diet his illness has

improved considerably.

Love joanne

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Wednesday, 29 February 2012, 17:05

Subject: Re: Re: Why do some people on a vegan style

diet get well from cancer?

 

I am a Vegan so is my wife. She had Fybro and has been healed. We both are also

Pro Natural Bodybuilders. The veggie base diets helps the cancer patients

recover because they need the antioxitants to fight the free radicals. Just to

provide some info and the vegan sources of protein. Fruits and Veggies have

branced chaim admino acids and this converts over to protein. Check it out. God

bless!

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To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:45 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Why do some people on a vegan style

diet get well from cancer?

 

 

I have been thinking about this today, about the vegan diets and how they help

cancer. I think they work in a similar way to what the water fasting does. As

you know i water fast one day a month and this has helped me a lot with my

recovery, and occasionally i do it for more than one day, but i agree with you,

there comes a point where stringent fasting is actually starvation.

 

this is a but hard to explain, but basically water fasting clears residual

toxin, those bits of toxin the body is struggling with, and following this i

feel energized, really anew, nice and clean, vibrant and so on, but something in

me tells me it would be wrong to push this beyond a certain level, and you are

right, about the nurishment

 

how i do it is i water fast which gives me high ketosis andlow toxicity, the

following days i work very hard to stick to the diet precisely, only eating the

correct foods and taking the correct supplements, checking ratios etc. I do this

for a week or so and that week ias by far my best week of the month. but ad the

month goes by i find myself slipping, getting lazy if you like, not quit as

commited, not doing everything spot on. I will last 2 or 3 weeks being a bit

slouchy but by week 4 I need a water fast to get me back on form again, the

water fast is my marker, it is the day that puts me back on track and brings

great reward

 

But still as marvolous as the cleanse is with water fasting my body knows it

needs proper nutrition and that is what the diet does it gives me good nutrtion

that keep me strong

 

Now i cannot digest vegetable at the best of times, I can as you know only have

a handful. So clearly an all plant food diet would not be best for me. But

basically what I am seeing and understanfing is that veganism, provides some

nutrition but when the body does not have sufficient fat and protein, the small

intestine is working much harder digesting all those carbs. A lot of nutrition

is not absorbed and so whilst in the beginning, like a water fast it will

cleanse and energise even, as the weeks and months go by this same treatment

might start taking its toll on the body

 

I do know a lot of people on bees board who were doing well with the gerson

therpay say later either their illness returned or something else appeared. With

the diet we are doing from what i see those folk that get healed that stay with

the diet are remaining well, it is only them that give it up that are getting

poorly again

 

Love joanne

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012, 23:31

Subject: Re: Why do some people on a vegan style diet

get well from cancer?

 

Hi Joanne,

I do think with just vegetables, it is a form of starvation, as you are missing

so many nutrients. The cancer may go away, but could still come back,and if you

stay with no protein, you will suffer down the line. I think we are better

protected, as the cancer will also go away, and we do not have to go into

starvation mode, if we keep up the good fat, and some protein, and very low

carb. Wish your daughter could quit smoking. It is like sugar, it can take many

years, but eventually, the body cannot handle the toxins anymore. some on Bee's

group try to go back to properly soaked grains, and some more carbs, but they

say they end up going back to too many carbs again. Not sure I am healed enough

to do grains again. They are too high in omega 6 anyway.

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> I still do not fully understand why people that go on an organic vegan style

diet do get cancer cleared up.

> My daughter, as you know gets lumps in her breasts, her biological fathers

family mainly died of cancer, some breast cancer

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> She has decided that she is not taking any more artificial hormones and eats

more or less Weston Price. She has told me she is having no more mamograms and

she is not having any more lumps removed. Her health is good. The lumps rise and

fall with her menstral cycle, I usually advise her to increase her vitamin C.

She is not worried about the lumps, but I am concerned because she still smokes.

Bee says the diet is more important than the giving up smoking, I do not fally

agree with this, I think the smoking should be stopped, but she is not stopping

and so I simply have to put faith in the diet, which I am doing

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> Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2012, 5:34

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> Hi, I found on Bee's site about cancer and Gerson and other treatments.

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cancer1.php

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