Re: cindy: bacteria in the news

[Guest guest]

thanks Joanne,

My sister ended up with ulcers, but she knows it was caused by the

anti-inflammatory meds given to her on an empty stomach in the hospital. She

still has to watch it, as even with food these can cause her problems again.

Stress too, can definitely cause her problems too. She may had had low stomach

acid too to start with.

c.

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> I have only had a few minutes to look at this because I have to go out but I

will read it again as soon as I get in

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> My dad 100% has had h-pylori in the past, he had ulcers in his 20s, but never

had them treated.

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> I do believe the h-pylori causes the ulcer but not in the sense that we are

told

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> h-pylori appears when we have low stomach acid.

> So what am I saying. I am saying we need to look at why people end up with low

acid in the first place. The doctors say it is the h-pylori that cause the low

stomach acid but this is wrong. What causes low stomach acid is stress.

Stressful thinking, fear, anger and so on put the mind in fight or flight mode

and this fight or flight mode turns many functions of the gut down low,

including stomach acid. Sadly repeated stress eventually leads to all the

stomach working on low. People that have hyper vigilance, ie that are constantly

anticipating danger or even just worry, end up in this hyper-vigilant state and

their stomachs become very tight and this is how the low stomach acid is caused

and as I just mentioned the bare wall gets ulcers and on and on the story goes

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> Love Joanne

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> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Sent: Monday, 26 December 2011, 17:12

> Subject: bacteria in the news

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> Today this news report came in. It talks about the bacteria protecting us.

They believe it can cause ulcers and other issues, but that is not really

proven.

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http://news.yahoo.com/ulcer-bacteria-may-protect-against-diarrhea-163252099.html

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[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

thanks for more info on this. I am not sure how fructose affects the bacteria,

but Dr Mercola, and the other doc I pasted a link to, they say they body

metabolizes it differently, leading to metabolic problems.

C

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> I most likely do still have klebsiella in my gut from the times when I had

colic but that does not affect me, and no pathogens affect me unless I eat

starch, then boy oh boy, I also have trouble with lactose and sugar, some

problems with fructose but this does seem to be less, a few folk at the AS site

said they too had trouble with fructose. Of course none of us know why we cannot

eat the fructose as well, Dr Ebringers work did not explain this, but perhaps

there are other undiscovered pathogens invovlved with this too. Regardless,

these pathogens are just doing their job, they are trying their best to digest

foods that are not good for us, so really it is up to us to make sure only the

right foods enter our body and then the chain reaction will not occur. It does

not matter if we swallow the bacteria but it does matter if we swallow the food

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> Love Joanne

[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

Here is a link to Dr Lustig video-Sugar Bitter truth. He explains how

fructose is different than sugar. It was very technical, but do remember it is

like how alcohol affects us-affecting our liver more. I did not go anywhere to

be tempted by holiday foods, but my niece gave me some left over smoked turkey

and some ham.

C.

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> I could not find the link, but I found this one.Here Mercola has a list

of fructose intake for several common fruits. This is helpful, especially since

my family are still eating fruit. Here mercola is claiming there is no frustose

in lime, but a trace amount in lemon. For this reason I am thinking of changing

over to lime. I have used lime in the past and find it equally satisfying to

lemons. The only reason I buy lemons is because they are more available, but it

will not be hard for me to find limes.

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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/06/19/richard-johnson-in\

terview-may-18-2010.aspx

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> Mercola is claiming frustose encourages weight gain more than sugar and

starch. I am not too sure about this, I think it is more to do with what else

you are eating, but I do agree that corn syrup is particularly bad

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> I also noticed that the folk on the low starch diet struggled with cravings

far more if they were replacing their general carb intake with frusctose foods.

Fructose is one of few carbs allowed on that diet. Anyway, most folk there were

basically binging on fructose, and this was clearly giving them other health

problems. At the time it was like me, I could not imagine that a high fat diet

could be the answer. I had never heard of a high fat diet, other than the

ketogenic diet for epileptics, and many reports relating to that claimed it was

dangerous to do this without being epileptic.

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> Anyway, thankfully I saw the light, and now do not bothe much with any carbs.

I regard them all as garnish and treat them as such. I eat many meals without

any. When I do have them I sprinkle the carbs. I think this seeing them as

garnish and sprink and using this language has helepd me a lot psychologically

to stick to the diet

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> I am at a friends house right now, and Christmas is still carrying on here so

I have to go and join in. They are all commenting on my detachment LOL

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> But I should be online later

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> Love joanne

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> I am not sure how fructose affects the bacteria, but Dr Mercola, and the other

doc I pasted a link to, they say they body metabolizes it differently, leading

to metabolic problems.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, here is Underground wellness giving us a short version of Bitter truth. He

talks about uric acid as well.

C

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> > I could not find the link, but I found this one.Here Mercola has a

list of fructose intake for several common fruits. This is helpful, especially

since my family are still eating fruit.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Joanne,

One thing that was brought out was that just eating a bit of fruit, like people

used to, and the huge amount from sodas is a lot different. We have so much more

access to fruit at all times of the year, and the fruit is developed to be

sweeter as well. I don't think we can handle very much fructose now. Our liver,

blood sugar, and body needs a rest from it. I know I used to eat more fruit than

vegetables. They start my cravings too, even a 1/2 lemon. Maybe the Gaps people

need to see this.

c

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> LOL after watching  Dr Lustig, I was baffled (way above my head

LOL) and then I spotted s version and just watched it. Was about to post it

and then saw you had...................... I get it now

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> After watching this I am going to stop buying fruit and having it in the

house. This way the only fruit they will have will be what they buy and that

really is not that much.

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> The GAPS diet is allowing too much fruit and I am seeing that time and time

again on the GAPs sites. It is hard to tell folk, they simply do not believe

fruit can be all that bad. They seem to know more on the Weston Price sites.

There they talk more about limiting fruit intake and fermenting it, and even

about turning it to wine and then removing the alcohol. Which sounds like a very

laborious task but might be worth it since many traditional cultures do use

mulled wines with spices for healing

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> Me I cant really be bothered with any of it, I could simply eat all fat and

meat and be happy, but the others here do ask for some variety, so I do a little

here and there to try to stop them getting bored, but really they too would

benefit from getting into ketosis and staying in it. honestly being in ketosis

has made my life so much more simple

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> I will keep learning about the fructose. I do know fruit is not good for me

because if I eat it for more than one day in a row, I do pay, but a small piece

here and there has not done me much harm, but I just don't like the thought of

ever getting into being a slave to carbs again and this is one thing even fruit

can do with me. I will buy less fruit and see what happens. My children and

husband are not too bad with it, but having less will be better for them

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> I will try to understand dr Lustigs video more

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> Love joanne

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> Hi, here is Underground wellness giving us a short version of Bitter truth. He

talks about uric acid as well.

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