Re: Re: Rogene's broken arm

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Yep, right handed. Be sure to drink a lot of water - and take Epsom salt baths with massages. It will get better soon. Crocker <dwcrn@...> wrote: Rogene,I'm almost laughing, but not really...I hope you know what I mean. I was reading your answer to my post about testing, etc., and all of a sudden I read, " I broke my right arm just above the wrist yesterday..." and I almost missed what you said. I stopped and said to myself, "Wait a

minute..." and I went back to read it again. You just sort of tossed it in there so casually! LOL! I said to myself, "Yesterday!" Oh, dear, I'm sorry to hear about your fall. And I suppose you're right-handed, too?I'm not running off to Houston...just feeling like running! I will probably poke around in my own back yard here to see who I can find. The testing is just for me...no need for any legal stuff anymore...just want to understand more about what has been going on with me, and what I may need to do next. I'm fed up with medications with crummy side effects from rheumatologists! A friend of mine who has ALS sees a naturopath locally; I may ask who he sees and what his experience has been. I've started deep tissue myofascial release mostly chest, but into abdomen as well, and...well everything is connected, so who knows where it will go! This has caused me to have 'toxic' symptoms like I had before and after

explantation, and which I've continued to have off and on for 12 years now. That's why I asked about 'herx.'Thank all of you who responded. We're having a gorgeous fall here in Oregon, too, and we are just today getting our first real rain!

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Dearest Rogene:

We are so sorry that you have injured your hand. Please take care and know that we are here for you. I am starting to destroy my research and it hurts me to do this because there is so much good information in these boxes. bought me a shredder and I will only use it for the legal documents.

Sending love always......Lea

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Re: Re: Rogene's broken arm

Yep, right handed.

Be sure to drink a lot of water - and take Epsom salt baths with massages. It will get better soon.

Crocker <dwcrn@...> wrote:

Rogene,I'm almost laughing, but not really...I hope you know what I mean. I was reading your answer to my post about testing, etc., and all of a sudden I read, " I broke my right arm just above the wrist yesterday..." and I almost missed what you said. I stopped and said to myself, "Wait a minute..." and I went back to read it again. You just sort of tossed it in there so casually! LOL! I said to myself, "Yesterday!" Oh, dear, I'm sorry to hear about your fall. And I suppose you're right-handed, too?I'm not running off to Houston...just feeling like running! I will probably poke around in my own back yard here to see who I can find. The testing is just for me...no need for any legal stuff anymore...just want to understand more about what has been going on with me, and what I may need to do next. I'm fed up with medications with crummy side effects from rheumatologists! A friend of mine who has ALS sees a naturopath locally; I may ask who he sees and what his experience has been. I've started deep tissue myofascial release mostly chest, but into abdomen as well, and...well everything is connected, so who knows where it will go! This has caused me to have 'toxic' symptoms like I had before and after explantation, and which I've continued to have off and on for 12 years now. That's why I asked about 'herx.'Thank all of you who responded. We're having a gorgeous fall here in Oregon, too, and we are just today getting our first real rain!

[Guest guest]

Honey, we need more women to do what I have been doing here in Alberta.

They are very angry at me, but who cares. I will continue to go after

plastic surgeons who refuse to explant women who are having problems with

their breast implants. Everywhere we go we meet someone who is sick from

these devices. Health Canada will be destroying many more lives by allowing

these devices back onto the market. My research is to be destroyed because

it is research that they do not want the public to see.

Take care of our precious Sunny....love you.........Lea

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Re: Rogene's broken arm

> Lea, what am I missing here? WHY did you have to destroy your

> research? I don't know the whole story, but that sounds like very

> invasive behaviour. It's unbelievable what they're getting away

> with. Someday we can have a visit and you can fill me in.

>

> Love & Prayers,

>

> Sunny

>

>

>> Rogene,

>> I'm almost laughing, but not really...I hope you know what I

> mean. I

>> was reading your answer to my post about testing, etc., and

> all of a

>> sudden I read, " I broke my right arm just above the wrist

> yesterday... "

>> and I almost missed what you said. I stopped and said to

> myself, " Wait

>> a minute... " and I went back to read it again. You just sort

> of tossed

>> it in there so casually! LOL! I said to myself, " Yesterday! "

> Oh,

>> dear, I'm sorry to hear about your fall. And I suppose you're

>> right-handed, too?

>> I'm not running off to Houston...just feeling like running! I

> will

>> probably poke around in my own back yard here to see who I

> can find.

>> The testing is just for me...no need for any legal stuff

> anymore...just

>> want to understand more about what has been going on with me,

> and what I

>> may need to do next. I'm fed up with medications with crummy

> side

>> effects from rheumatologists! A friend of mine who has ALS

> sees a

>> naturopath locally; I may ask who he sees and what his

> experience has

>> been. I've started deep tissue myofascial release mostly

> chest, but

>> into abdomen as well, and...well everything is connected, so

> who knows

>> where it will go! This has caused me to have 'toxic' symptoms

> like I

>> had before and after explantation, and which I've continued

> to have off

>> and on for 12 years now. That's why I asked about 'herx.'

>> Thank all of you who responded. We're having a gorgeous fall

> here in

>> Oregon, too, and we are just today getting our first real

> rain!

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bless your heart for speaking out. I do this every chance that I get, I

even told our mailman. He was sad that we were moving, that was back in

1994. In our new home, we have many tradesman coming through and they too

get the story.

Many of the documents that I have are not just from my research, but from

many wonderful women who worked very hard researching breast implants. Our

Lynda is one of them, my friend who died shared most all of her research

with me. The sad part of this story is that when she died, her husband

destroyed all of the boxes of research, she wanted Dr. Blais to have it.

Joyce Attis is another lady who has never stopped digging for the truth.

Each and every women should go to a medical library and do their own

research. This will help to vindicate our illness. I know for me it helped,

because most doctors claimed that I was depressed or a mental case.

Thank you Sunny for helping...love you always.........Lea

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Re: Rogene's broken arm

> Is it even legal for them to insist you destroy your research? Is

> this simply intimidation tactics?? This really angers me.

>

> Well, I have been talking to literally everyone, man and woman alike,

> since I found out the truth about implants. Even elevator

> coversations, line-ups at grocery stores....all I say is I am

> recovering from breast surgery, and they say " what from " and there's

> my open door.

>

> When I get my life schedule for organized, it may be an idea to start

> a support group here in Red Deer to meet 2x a months or something.

> Just to offer a listening heart and to educate.

>

> Love,

>

> Sunny

>

>

>> >> Rogene,

>> >> I'm almost laughing, but not really...I hope you know

> what I

>> > mean. I

>> >> was reading your answer to my post about testing, etc.,

> and

>> > all of a

>> >> sudden I read, " I broke my right arm just above the

> wrist

>> > yesterday... "

>> >> and I almost missed what you said. I stopped and said to

>> > myself, " Wait

>> >> a minute... " and I went back to read it again. You just

> sort

>> > of tossed

>> >> it in there so casually! LOL! I said to

> myself, " Yesterday! "

>> > Oh,

>> >> dear, I'm sorry to hear about your fall. And I suppose

> you're

>> >> right-handed, too?

>> >> I'm not running off to Houston...just feeling like

> running! I

>> > will

>> >> probably poke around in my own back yard here to see who

> I

>> > can find.

>> >> The testing is just for me...no need for any legal stuff

>> > anymore...just

>> >> want to understand more about what has been going on

> with me,

>> > and what I

>> >> may need to do next. I'm fed up with medications with

> crummy

>> > side

>> >> effects from rheumatologists! A friend of mine who has

> ALS

>> > sees a

>> >> naturopath locally; I may ask who he sees and what his

>> > experience has

>> >> been. I've started deep tissue myofascial release mostly

>> > chest, but

>> >> into abdomen as well, and...well everything is

> connected, so

>> > who knows

>> >> where it will go! This has caused me to have 'toxic'

> symptoms

>> > like I

>> >> had before and after explantation, and which I've

> continued

>> > to have off

>> >> and on for 12 years now. That's why I asked about 'herx.'

>> >> Thank all of you who responded. We're having a gorgeous

> fall

>> > here in

>> >> Oregon, too, and we are just today getting our first real

>> > rain!

>> >>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Dearest Sunny:

You always ask such great questions. My answer is that they refuse to look

at anything that we brought to the table. They have their own research and

that is what they use. When you are sitting with people who have closed

their minds to the truth, you might as well bang your head on a brick wall.

Honey, we have no power when it comes to these Giants, if enough women

would be brave enough to take them on, we could make them listen...perhaps.

There are millions of women with these devices, and I think that we could

out number them if we really wanted to. Many women are too sick or they are

afraid and then we have the women who would never want anyone to know that

they have breast implants. I know many women who would rather die than to

tell anyone about their breast implants.

Honey, keep up the great work...love you......Lea

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Re: Rogene's broken arm

> Lea, sorry if I seem a bit naive...if the information that was

> researched is on record, and true then why can't it be brought up

> legally? Is this medical information accumulated through tests?

> You'll have to enlighten me. I know there's pressure not to expose

> the lies, and definitely threats to women -- the more I hear, the

> more motivated I get.

>

> I was brought up to " not rock the boat " " keep the sick family

> secrets " and broke through alot of that garbage later in my life.

> It's a real sore spot for me.

>

> It seems as though accountability has gone out the window. Even when

> my children were in middle school, I would go for a meeting when one

> of the boys got in trouble. I always taught them to own their part

> and make amends....I would also ask the teacher to be accountable for

> his/her part and try to find resolution. My child would always

> apologize first. I've had teachers walk out SO angry, red-faced and

> full of ego. Anyway, I am discouraged right now with feeling

> powerless over these " corporate giants " . How about a and

> Goliath skit?? lol

>

> I love ya lots, Lea....keep up your health and know you're making a

> huge difference in this area.

>

> Sunny

>

>

>

>> >> >> Rogene,

>> >> >> I'm almost laughing, but not really...I hope you

> know

>> > what I

>> >> > mean. I

>> >> >> was reading your answer to my post about testing,

> etc.,

>> > and

>> >> > all of a

>> >> >> sudden I read, " I broke my right arm just above the

>> > wrist

>> >> > yesterday... "

>> >> >> and I almost missed what you said. I stopped and

> said to

>> >> > myself, " Wait

>> >> >> a minute... " and I went back to read it again. You

> just

>> > sort

>> >> > of tossed

>> >> >> it in there so casually! LOL! I said to

>> > myself, " Yesterday! "

>> >> > Oh,

>> >> >> dear, I'm sorry to hear about your fall. And I

> suppose

>> > you're

>> >> >> right-handed, too?

>> >> >> I'm not running off to Houston...just feeling like

>> > running! I

>> >> > will

>> >> >> probably poke around in my own back yard here to

> see who

>> > I

>> >> > can find.

>> >> >> The testing is just for me...no need for any legal

> stuff

>> >> > anymore...just

>> >> >> want to understand more about what has been going on

>> > with me,

>> >> > and what I

>> >> >> may need to do next. I'm fed up with medications

> with

>> > crummy

>> >> > side

>> >> >> effects from rheumatologists! A friend of mine who

> has

>> > ALS

>> >> > sees a

>> >> >> naturopath locally; I may ask who he sees and what

> his

>> >> > experience has

>> >> >> been. I've started deep tissue myofascial release

> mostly

>> >> > chest, but

>> >> >> into abdomen as well, and...well everything is

>> > connected, so

>> >> > who knows

>> >> >> where it will go! This has caused me to have 'toxic'

>> > symptoms

>> >> > like I

>> >> >> had before and after explantation, and which I've

>> > continued

>> >> > to have off

>> >> >> and on for 12 years now. That's why I asked

> about 'herx.'

>> >> >> Thank all of you who responded. We're having a

> gorgeous

>> > fall

>> >> > here in

>> >> >> Oregon, too, and we are just today getting our

> first real

>> >> > rain!

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >