Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book from the library.... Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning (3rd edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com) The cover says: " new research on implants and connective tissue disease, fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring " " latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture " " guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants removed or replaced " I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything and have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be women out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put in... it's a mighty creepy feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Emerald, Thanks for posting that, I have never heard of that book and would be interested in reading it. Sis > > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book > from the library.... > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning (3rd > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com) > > The cover says: > > " new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring " > > " latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture " > > " guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants removed > or replaced " > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything and > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be women > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put in... > it's a mighty creepy feeling > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 What a find! That's awesome, Emerald. I definitely have lung scar tissue, and the other symptoms. They tried to blame the scar tissue on my smoking. I quit 7 yrs. ago and was a very light smoker. I didn't have scar tissue in my x-rays previous to the last few years! Thanks for the info!! Love & Have a great weekend! Sunny > > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book > from the library.... > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning (3rd > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com) > > The cover says: > > " new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring " > > " latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture " > > " guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants removed > or replaced " > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything and > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be women > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put in... > it's a mighty creepy feeling > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 You would think that the FDA would put the book at the top of their reading list, wouldn't they? BTW, I had a note from Benson, FDA, . . . She's changing jobs - moving into the FDA Commissioner's office in the next week or so. . . Since she doesn't have a replacement yet, this appears to be a sudden move. . . I wonder if her phone call to me - i.e. the public, not the FDA, is responsible for their choicees, had anything to do with her reassignement? If so, it speaks loudly of the FDA's stance regarding their role in protecting the public! . . . Especially when Bush wants a bill passed that protects industry from liability for "FDA Approved" drugs and devices. Buyer Beware! Rogene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 In a message dated 8/14/2006 7:50:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, emeraldkittee@... writes: I think the hardest thing now is having this almost primal need to Get Them Out, and yet that will take some time. How do you reconcile having the implants in for the time being? I am trying to think of my breasts as still a part of me, and focus on sending healing energy to that area, but it is hard. I am so grateful to you all, it brings tears to my eyes . Emerald, I feel you here. There have been days I've just feel like taking a razor knife and cutting mine -I want them out so bad. I'm not even kidding. If I did that and got them opened up and out --- THEN insurance would pay!!! I'm not planning to do that... but I'm just saying... It's tempting sometimes. There are also the days when I feel so stupid for what I've done to myself that I just feel like dying... I imagine MANY of us get that way at some point. That's what's so great about this group of gals... there ARE people going through the same thing who understand. We were ALL misinformed about the safety of implants. We aren't stupid women -we just put our trust into doctors and got the bad end of the stick. Hang in there!!! Brigite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 WOW, Sunny you have lung scar tissue? I am shaking my head now thinking 'it's all coming together'. I have had CONSTANT lung troubles, coughing up blood (but never is any 'reason' found). I think I get more stunned each day about what I am learning here. Did anyone encounter a fair amount of self loathing when they connected all the dots here? I am resisting the urge to beat myself up (since I have already done that physically). I think the hardest thing now is having this almost primal need to Get Them Out, and yet that will take some time. How do you reconcile having the implants in for the time being? I am trying to think of my breasts as still a part of me, and focus on sending healing energy to that area, but it is hard. I am so grateful to you all, it brings tears to my eyes . -- In , " Sunny " <wellnessnow@...> wrote: > > What a find! That's awesome, Emerald. I definitely have lung scar > tissue, and the other symptoms. They tried to blame the scar tissue > on my smoking. I quit 7 yrs. ago and was a very light smoker. I > didn't have scar tissue in my x-rays previous to the last few years! > > Thanks for the info!! > > Love & Have a great weekend! > > Sunny > > > > > > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book > > from the library.... > > > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning > (3rd > > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com) > > > > The cover says: > > > > " new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring " > > > > " latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture " > > > > " guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants > removed > > or replaced " > > > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything > and > > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be > women > > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as > > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what > > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put > in... > > it's a mighty creepy feeling > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Rogene, fascinating, and frightening. Thank God we realized we are on our own when it comes to healthcare. There has been suffering here, but ultimately, it is empowering. > > You would think that the FDA would put the book at the top of their reading list, wouldn't they? > > BTW, I had a note from Benson, FDA, . . . She's changing jobs - moving into the FDA Commissioner's office in the next week or so. . . Since she doesn't have a replacement yet, this appears to be a sudden move. . . > > I wonder if her phone call to me - i.e. the public, not the FDA, is responsible for their choicees, had anything to do with her reassignement? > > If so, it speaks loudly of the FDA's stance regarding their role in protecting the public! . . . Especially when Bush wants a bill passed that protects industry from liability for " FDA Approved " drugs and devices. > > Buyer Beware! > > Rogene > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 > > > > > > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this > book > > > from the library.... > > > > > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning > > (3rd > > > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com) > > > > > > The cover says: > > > > > > " new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > > > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring " > > > > > > " latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture " > > > > > > " guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants > > removed > > > or replaced " > > > > > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat > anything > > and > > > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be > > women > > > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this > as > > > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on > what > > > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put > > in... > > > it's a mighty creepy feeling > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Emerald, it was very difficult the last few months, knowing my surgery was coming. I wanted to walk into the emergency room at the local hospital, with a knife, and threaten to remove them myself!! All logic was leaving me...it was very painful...both physically and mentally. Ofcourse, we all know what would happen. Thrown into the psychiatric unit and subdued with drugs. Today I said farewell to my loving psychiatrist...he's going to work at a mental institution nearby Red Deer. He has been very loving and caring with me, helping me all the way from finding out about my illness due to implants and seeing me through explant. He told me breast implants cause depression. Wow! It was good to hear. I've had mental illness issues all my life, in my family tree, and after implant I did get worse. Anyway, we must all stick together and be active in speaking out and sharing our stories. All my love, Sunny > > > > > > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this > book > > > from the library.... > > > > > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning > > (3rd > > > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com) > > > > > > The cover says: > > > > > > " new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > > > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring " > > > > > > " latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture " > > > > > > " guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants > > removed > > > or replaced " > > > > > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat > anything > > and > > > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be > > women > > > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this > as > > > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on > what > > > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put > > in... > > > it's a mighty creepy feeling > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Emerald, Yes, the guilt and self loathing shows up many times. Unfortunately, sometimes it ends up in suicides....it's a tragedy that has happened too many times! Just remember that you were given incomplete and misleading information. We all were. I couldn't get my implants out fast enough...they were like foreign invaders in my body and I was not at peace until they were gone for good. PattyEmerald Kittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: WOW, Sunny you have lung scar tissue? I am shaking my head now thinking 'it's all coming together'. I have had CONSTANT lung troubles, coughing up blood (but never is any 'reason' found). I think I get more stunned each day about what I am learning here. Did anyone encounter a fair amount of self loathing when they connected all the dots here? I am resisting the urge to beat myself up (since I have already done that physically). I think the hardest thing now is having this almost primal need to Get Them Out, and yet that will take some time. How do you reconcile having the implants in for the time being? I am trying to think of my breasts as still a part of me, and focus on sending healing energy to that area, but it is hard. I am so grateful to you all, it brings tears to my eyes .-- In , "Sunny" <wellnessnow@...> wrote:>> What a find! That's awesome, Emerald. I definitely have lung scar > tissue, and the other symptoms. They tried to blame the scar tissue > on my smoking. I quit 7 yrs. ago and was a very light smoker. I > didn't have scar tissue in my x-rays previous to the last few years!> > Thanks for the info!!> > Love & Have a great weekend!> > Sunny > > > >> > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book > > from the library....> > > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning > (3rd > > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com)> > > > The cover says:> > > > "new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring"> > > > "latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture"> > > > "guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants > removed > > or replaced"> > > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything > and > > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be > women > > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as > > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what > > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put > in... > > it's a mighty creepy feeling> >> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 Brigite, Shockingly, there was a report of a woman who did just that....she was so desperate to get her implants out that she took a razor to herself and tried to get them out on her own. I don't know the whole story, though I think I have the letter in my backup files somewhere, but it is always shocking to hear that some women are so desperate, they go to such extremes. It's certainly not an answer, but it makes a statement to the medical professionals. Maybe not the best one, but for those of us who have walked in those shoes, we know the feeling well. Brigite, how long do you think it will take you to get your explant fund? Patty KissofSadness@... wrote: IEmerald, I feel you here. There have been days I've just feel like taking a razor knife and cutting mine -I want them out so bad. I'm not even kidding. If I did that and got them opened up and out --- THEN insurance would pay!!! I'm not planning to do that... but I'm just saying... It's tempting sometimes. There are also the days when I feel so stupid for what I've done to myself that I just feel like dying... I imagine MANY of us get that way at some point. That's what's so great about this group of gals... there ARE people going through the same thing who understand. We were ALL misinformed about the safety of implants. We aren't stupid women -we just put our trust into doctors and got the bad end of the stick. Hang in there!!! Brigite __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 How did you cope with the waiting time,Patty? Were you pleased with the experience and results once they were out? thank you for sharing :)Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Emerald, Yes, the guilt and self loathing shows up many times. Unfortunately, sometimes it ends up in suicides....it's a tragedy that has happened too many times! Just remember that you were given incomplete and misleading information. We all were. I couldn't get my implants out fast enough...they were like foreign invaders in my body and I was not at peace until they were gone for good. PattyEmerald Kittee <emeraldkittee > wrote: WOW, Sunny you have lung scar tissue? I am shaking my head now thinking 'it's all coming together'. I have had CONSTANT lung troubles, coughing up blood (but never is any 'reason' found). I think I get more stunned each day about what I am learning here. Did anyone encounter a fair amount of self loathing when they connected all the dots here? I am resisting the urge to beat myself up (since I have already done that physically). I think the hardest thing now is having this almost primal need to Get Them Out, and yet that will take some time. How do you reconcile having the implants in for the time being? I am trying to think of my breasts as still a part of me, and focus on sending healing energy to that area, but it is hard. I am so grateful to you all, it brings tears to my eyes .-- In , "Sunny" <wellnessnow@...> wrote:>> What a find! That's awesome, Emerald. I definitely have lung scar > tissue, and the other symptoms. They tried to blame the scar tissue > on my smoking. I quit 7 yrs. ago and was a very light smoker. I > didn't have scar tissue in my x-rays previous to the last few years!> > Thanks for the info!!> > Love & Have a great weekend!> > Sunny > > > >> > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book > > from the library....> > > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning > (3rd > > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com)> > > > The cover says:> > > > "new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring"> > > > "latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture"> > > > "guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants > removed > > or replaced"> > > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything > and > > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be > women > > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as > > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what > > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put > in... > > it's a mighty creepy feeling> >> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 It was very hard to cope with the waiting time, but I just did what was going to be a necessary process throughout my healing journey.....I learned to just take things one day at a time, putting one foot in front of the other, steady plodding, and praying all the way. It was so hard. But when you don't have any other choices, there isn't much else to to. I learned to be patient with my body and let it heal in its own time. Explant was a piece of cake compared to implant. The pain was much, much less, and the healing time (physically) was much quicker. The healing time systemically, of course, took years. I was pretty happy with the outcome, but that took years too....right after I unwrapped myself from the explant surgery, I cried lots of tears. I was all smooshed down flat and was black and blue (my doctor didn't use drains, which could be another reason it took me so much longer to heal. All that bruising was from blood and fluids that *should* have been drained out of me rather than accumulating in my chest.) Over time, my breasts fluffed back out and I looked better than before because of the lift I had. Of course, there are scars, but then again, we all go through explant with scars of many kinds! The emotional ones are the hardest to heal, but with God, all things are possible.... Hugs, Patty Emeraldkittee <emeraldkittee@...> wrote: How did you cope with the waiting time,Patty? Were you pleased with the experience and results once they were out? thank you for sharing :)Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401 > wrote: Emerald, Yes, the guilt and self loathing shows up many times. Unfortunately, sometimes it ends up in suicides....it's a tragedy that has happened too many times! Just remember that you were given incomplete and misleading information. We all were. I couldn't get my implants out fast enough...they were like foreign invaders in my body and I was not at peace until they were gone for good. PattyEmerald Kittee <emeraldkittee > wrote: WOW, Sunny you have lung scar tissue? I am shaking my head now thinking 'it's all coming together'. I have had CONSTANT lung troubles, coughing up blood (but never is any 'reason' found). I think I get more stunned each day about what I am learning here. Did anyone encounter a fair amount of self loathing when they connected all the dots here? I am resisting the urge to beat myself up (since I have already done that physically). I think the hardest thing now is having this almost primal need to Get Them Out, and yet that will take some time. How do you reconcile having the implants in for the time being? I am trying to think of my breasts as still a part of me, and focus on sending healing energy to that area, but it is hard. I am so grateful to you all, it brings tears to my eyes .-- In , "Sunny" <wellnessnow@...> wrote:>> What a find! That's awesome, Emerald. I definitely have lung scar > tissue, and the other symptoms. They tried to blame the scar tissue > on my smoking. I quit 7 yrs. ago and was a very light smoker. I > didn't have scar tissue in my x-rays previous to the last few years!> > Thanks for the info!!> > Love & Have a great weekend!> > Sunny > > > >> > I might be singing yesterday's news here, but I just got this book > > from the library....> > > > Breast Implants: Everything you need to know by Bruning > (3rd > > edition) 2002, published by Hunter House (www.hunterhouse.com)> > > > The cover says:> > > > "new research on implants and connective tissue disease, > > fibroymyalgia, and lung scarring"> > > > "latest information on hardening of imlants, leaking and rupture"> > > > "guidelines on althernatives to implants and having implants > removed > > or replaced"> > > > I read the explant sections first. They don't sugar coat anything > and > > have some terribly sad photos; she also realizes there will be > women > > out there who will still have the surgery, so she addresses this as > > well. I haven't had the nerve yet to read all the chapters on what > > happens to the surrounding tissue when you have the implants put > in... > > it's a mighty creepy feeling> >> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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