Guest guest Posted November 13, 2006 Report Share Posted November 13, 2006 Leyna and others, I think Bindi mentioned that 5HTP was probably not a good idea if your on antidepressants. That's a yes...it shouldn't be combined with those medications. An excellent medication for pain, especially for fibromyalgia pain, is Cymbalta. It's an antidepressant which has an effect on mood, lessens anxiety, helps regulate sleep, and has been found to be helpful for physical pain as well. I'm not on this, but I attend a fibromyalgia support group and a number of women have recently been put on this medication, and all but one felt it was quite helpful! Website: http://www.drugs.com/cymbalta.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 > > > > Posted by: " Lynda " coss@... > <mailto:coss@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20meds%20and%20supplements> > lyndaroth2004 <lyndaroth2004> > > > Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:00 pm (PST) > > Cymbalta has some serious side effects. I would check that out. Respectfully, every substance has the potential for side effects. This is a prescription medication; this means you must be evaluated by a physician with experience in using it, usually that's a psychiatrist or a pain specialist! Everything involves risk. I heard women in the same fibromyalgia support group report some scary results from using 5HTP because 'someone' told them it would help them. It affects neurotransmitters as does Cymbalta as well as many other antidepressants. The choice, of course, is up to the patient! Not to be argumentative, and in all humility, I thought all treatment modalities could be brought up for consideration here. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 You're right ! Thanks for the reminder. It's good to hear the cautions too - one size definitely does not fit all! Rogene Crocker <dwcrn@...> wrote: >>>> Posted by: "Lynda" cossprivatei> <mailto:cossprivatei?Subject=%20Re%3A%20meds%20and%20supplements>> lyndaroth2004 <lyndaroth2004>>>> Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:00 pm (PST)>> Cymbalta has some serious side effects. I would check that out.Respectfully, every substance has the potential for side effects. This is a prescription medication; this means you must be evaluated by a physician with experience in using it, usually that's a psychiatrist or a pain specialist! Everything involves risk. I heard women in the same fibromyalgia support group report some scary results from using 5HTP because 'someone' told them it would help them. It affects neurotransmitters as does Cymbalta as well as many other antidepressants. The choice, of course, is up to the patient! Not to be argumentative, and in all humility, I thought all treatment modalities could be brought up for consideration here. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 brings up an excellent point regarding 5HTP. Women here have recommended 5HTP to other women to help with pain and sleep. 5HTP affects the brain. It isn't simply an innocent natural product and does carry side affects and risks. Natural doesn't mean safe for everyone. When choosing a product, whether it be a natural one, such as 5HTP or a chemical, such as Cymbalta, a doctor really needs to be consulted so that the proper lab testing is done to ensure that you really NEED the substance you are considering taking. If a doctor doesn't test, he doesn't know if you need it. Kenda >> >> Cymbalta has some serious side effects. I would check that out. > > Respectfully, every substance has the potential for side effects. This > is a prescription medication; this means you must be evaluated by a > physician with experience in using it, usually that's a psychiatrist or > a pain specialist! Everything involves risk. I heard women in the same > fibromyalgia support group report some scary results from using 5HTP > because 'someone' told them it would help them. It affects > neurotransmitters as does Cymbalta as well as many other > antidepressants. The choice, of course, is up to the patient! Not to > be argumentative, and in all humility, I thought all treatment > modalities could be brought up for consideration here. :-) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 , I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all-they are poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way too short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on Cymbalta, and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on Prozac, and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my hysterectomy). Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide and called all my friends and family, telling them what I was going to do. Quit taking them and those feelings were gone! I would NEVER take an antidepressant ever again! And the withdrawals are the worst thing in the world-I had to take a 3 month leave of absense just to be able to work again! But, I do agree-you can't take 5-htp or St. 's wort if you are on them. > > Leyna and others, > I think Bindi mentioned that 5HTP was probably not a good idea if your > on antidepressants. That's a yes...it shouldn't be combined with those > medications. An excellent medication for pain, especially for > fibromyalgia pain, is Cymbalta. It's an antidepressant which has an > effect on mood, lessens anxiety, helps regulate sleep, and has been > found to be helpful for physical pain as well. I'm not on this, but I > attend a fibromyalgia support group and a number of women have recently > been put on this medication, and all but one felt it was quite helpful! > Website: > http://www.drugs.com/cymbalta.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 It's just one of those things were there are different points of view, and we welcome them all. They help some people, and definitely aren't great for others. I have taken Xanax from time to time, because it has really helped the brain fog - and while it's not an antidepressant, it's still addictive and I do worry about it - but it's been helpful to me when I needed it. Sis > , > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all-they are > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way too > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on Cymbalta, > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on Prozac, > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my hysterectomy). > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide and called all my > friends and family, telling them what I was going to do. Quit taking > them and those feelings were gone! I would NEVER take an > antidepressant ever again! And the withdrawals are the worst thing in > the world-I had to take a 3 month leave of absense just to be able to > work again! But, I do agree-you can't take 5-htp or St. 's wort > if you are on them. > > > > Leyna and others, > > I think Bindi mentioned that 5HTP was probably not a good idea if > your > > on antidepressants. That's a yes...it shouldn't be combined with > those > > medications. An excellent medication for pain, especially for > > fibromyalgia pain, is Cymbalta. It's an antidepressant which has > an > > effect on mood, lessens anxiety, helps regulate sleep, and has been > > found to be helpful for physical pain as well. I'm not on this, > but I > > attend a fibromyalgia support group and a number of women have > recently > > been put on this medication, and all but one felt it was quite > helpful! > > Website: > > http://www.drugs.com/cymbalta.html > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 > , > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all-they are > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way too > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on Cymbalta, > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on Prozac, > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my hysterectomy). > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide>snip< Leyna, you cannot generalize about a class of medication, anti-depressants, that has proved to be very effective in the treatment of difficult and often fatal conditions. You are speaking for others when you do that, as well as giving misleading and false information. You _can_ tell me your experience and why _you_ wouldn't take them again. I worked as a mental health nurse for many years, and I have seen suicides off and on anti-depressants. Suicide is the fatal symptom caused by depression. Another symptom of depression is living a slow hell of an existance. Antidepressants have made a tremendous difference in both areas. I can tell you my own experience with depression which started when I was 22 years old with a suicide attempt, almost successful. At that time I was give electro shock therapy--it's all they had. After the development of antidepressants, they proved to be a real life saver for me. I am not 'addicted' to antidepressants; they do change your neurotransmitters, and you can't just stop abruptly or the brain gives very unpleasant signals! You have to taper off. I have done this many times. I'm sure others could give their experiences with antidepressants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Amen to that, Kenda. Better safe than sorry. An ancient, but true saying. Love to All, Sunny > > brings up an excellent point regarding 5HTP. Women here have > recommended 5HTP to other women to help with pain and sleep. 5HTP affects > the brain. It isn't simply an innocent natural product and does carry side > affects and risks. Natural doesn't mean safe for everyone. When choosing a > product, whether it be a natural one, such as 5HTP or a chemical, such as > Cymbalta, a doctor really needs to be consulted so that the proper lab > testing is done to ensure that you really NEED the substance you are > considering taking. If a doctor doesn't test, he doesn't know if you need > it. > > Kenda > > > >> > >> Cymbalta has some serious side effects. I would check that out. > > > > Respectfully, every substance has the potential for side effects. This > > is a prescription medication; this means you must be evaluated by a > > physician with experience in using it, usually that's a psychiatrist or > > a pain specialist! Everything involves risk. I heard women in the same > > fibromyalgia support group report some scary results from using 5HTP > > because 'someone' told them it would help them. It affects > > neurotransmitters as does Cymbalta as well as many other > > antidepressants. The choice, of course, is up to the patient! Not to > > be argumentative, and in all humility, I thought all treatment > > modalities could be brought up for consideration here. :-) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Diane, Ok, I'm sure that they have helped some people-and yes, I was speaking about my own experiences with them, and what I have heard from other people, and read from reliable sources in the past. My problem with psychiatrists is that they NEVER bother to check WHY a person is depressed-they just automatically write out their prescriptions for antidepressants, which I think is WRONG. For instance...I had a hysterectomy 2 years ago, and was on a hormone patch. After a few months, I was extremely depressed, irritable, and having constant panic attacks, and not being able to sleep at all. Desperate, I went to a psychiatrist, who of course prescribed antidepressants-Cymbalta, in fact. I did not take it, deciding to try one more doctor....my Gynocologist. He took one look at me, did some labs, and Wow-what do you know? My hormone patch was not being absorbed at all-I was getting NO estrogen, and on top of that, my thyroid was way OVERactive. Hmm...how interesting that by switching me to another, better absorbed HRT medicine, and lowering my thyroid medicine...what do you know? NO MORE DEPRESSION, PANIC ATTACKS, OR ANXIETY!! Now, what would have happened if I had taken the antidepressants instead? I seriously doubt that I would have gotten rid of all my symptoms, don't you? Doctors want you on antidpressants because it's NOT something you can just quit cold turkey without horrible withdrawals-you have to keep coming back-more money for their pockets! Sorry, I don't mean to offend you, and I'm sorry that you got upset with what I said about antidpressants, but I know for a fact that MANY people who have depression can cure it by finding out WHY they are depressed, rather than just popping a pill that alters their brain waves or whatever. There are many causes of depression-vitamin defiencies can cause schitzoprhenia (sp?) and depression, food allergies, thyroid and hormonal imbalances, etc, etc. I just think that a person should have a few tests done before they just pop a pill. --- In , " diana crocker " <dwcrn@...> wrote: > > --- In , " leyna1964 " <leyna1964@> wrote: > > > > --- In , Crocker <dwcrn@> wrote: > > , > > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all-they are > > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way too > > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on Cymbalta, > > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on Prozac, > > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my hysterectomy). > > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide>snip< > > Leyna, you cannot generalize about a class of medication, > anti-depressants, that has proved to be very effective in the > treatment of difficult and often fatal conditions. You are speaking > for others when you do that, as well as giving misleading and false > information. You _can_ tell me your experience and why _you_ wouldn't > take them again. I worked as a mental health nurse for many years, > and I have seen suicides off and on anti-depressants. Suicide is the > fatal symptom caused by depression. Another symptom of depression is > living a slow hell of an existance. Antidepressants have made a > tremendous difference in both areas. I can tell you my own experience > with depression which started when I was 22 years old with a suicide > attempt, almost successful. At that time I was give electro shock > therapy--it's all they had. After the development of antidepressants, > they proved to be a real life saver for me. I am not 'addicted' to > antidepressants; they do change your neurotransmitters, and you can't > just stop abruptly or the brain gives very unpleasant signals! You > have to taper off. I have done this many times. I'm sure others > could give their experiences with antidepressants. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Well, here's my 2 cents worth on anti-depressants. I've been on and off medication for bi-polar disorder since I was in my early 40's. Before then I was addicted to prescription drugs and some street drugs, as well as alcohol. Why? To numb my pain from my past " unremembered " sexual abuse and to manage my mental illness, that was not diagnosed yet. I remember my first visit to a psychiatrist - when I explained my drug use to him, he said, " Good for you! " Surprisingly, I said, " What do you mean by THAT!! " He said, " You were self- medicating. " True enough. I would take uppers when I was depressed and downers when my mania kicked in. He was a loving psychiatrist...all of the ones I've seen don't match his description, unfortunately. My first and last serious attempt at suicide was at 16 yrs. old...woke up in the morning totally fine. Went to sleep with my heart pounding out of my chest! My body filled with a mixture of my Mom's medication. Although I'd thought about suicide throughout my life, I didn't try again in that fashion. I managed to hide my addictions quite adequately, from my children especially. My former husband was an addict/alcoholic as well. He had a very physicall abusive past. We both got into recovery at the same time. My children never had to find me passed out on the couch when they came home from school, or almost dead from taking too many pills at night. And for heaven's sake, didn't every couple go out every couple of weekends and party?? Getting home at 3 a.m. and arguing half the night? Possible bringing half the bar with them??? Thought it was normal!! lol Anyhoo, started NA meetings (Narcotics Anonymous) at 42, kicked my addictions one at a time. At 4 months clean and sober, all my sexual abuse memories flooded in. Interesting....my dad had passed away a year previous. My doctor said it was common for the memories to come through after the abuser had passed away. My Dad was a loving, affectionate father on one side, and had a sickness on the other, passed along by his family. We had an incestual family...the gift kept on giving. Thank God I didn't abuse my kids. The cycle is stopping with our family now. My Mom & Dad were abused as well, as children. My choice of treatment is nutritional and spiritual...which I'm using today, however, as I said before, psychiatric medicine has saved my life atleast twice. I also have had horrific side effects from anti- depressants and hope I don't have to take them again. When I speak of the holistic (wholistic) approach, it includes allopathic and alternative - which to me is the " original " medicine. Thank God we don't have to put herbal packs on broken legs!! lol Thank God for you ladies here....all the wisdom and support. Let's continue to respect each other's differences and life experiences. Each one of us is a unique gift from God. Love ya, Sunny p.s. Wow, I don't know where all this came from....thanks for listening!! > > --- In , " leyna1964 " <leyna1964@> wrote: > > > > --- In , Crocker <dwcrn@> wrote: > > , > > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all-they are > > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way too > > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on Cymbalta, > > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on Prozac, > > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my hysterectomy). > > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide>snip< > > Leyna, you cannot generalize about a class of medication, > anti-depressants, that has proved to be very effective in the > treatment of difficult and often fatal conditions. You are speaking > for others when you do that, as well as giving misleading and false > information. You _can_ tell me your experience and why _you_ wouldn't > take them again. I worked as a mental health nurse for many years, > and I have seen suicides off and on anti-depressants. Suicide is the > fatal symptom caused by depression. Another symptom of depression is > living a slow hell of an existance. Antidepressants have made a > tremendous difference in both areas. I can tell you my own experience > with depression which started when I was 22 years old with a suicide > attempt, almost successful. At that time I was give electro shock > therapy--it's all they had. After the development of antidepressants, > they proved to be a real life saver for me. I am not 'addicted' to > antidepressants; they do change your neurotransmitters, and you can't > just stop abruptly or the brain gives very unpleasant signals! You > have to taper off. I have done this many times. I'm sure others > could give their experiences with antidepressants. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Cymbalta has some serious side effects. I would check that out. Lynda At 08:36 PM 11/13/2006, you wrote: >Leyna and others, >I think Bindi mentioned that 5HTP was probably not a good idea if your >on antidepressants. That's a yes...it shouldn't be combined with those >medications. An excellent medication for pain, especially for >fibromyalgia pain, is Cymbalta. It's an antidepressant which has an >effect on mood, lessens anxiety, helps regulate sleep, and has been >found to be helpful for physical pain as well. I'm not on this, but I >attend a fibromyalgia support group and a number of women have recently >been put on this medication, and all but one felt it was quite helpful! >Website: ><http://www.drugs.com/cymbalta.html>http://www.drugs.com/cymbalta.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Wow, Sunny, thanks for sharing. I'm so proud of you for getting your life on track. Sis > > > , > > > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all- they > are > > > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way > too > > > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on > Cymbalta, > > > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on > Prozac, > > > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my > hysterectomy). > > > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide>snip< > > > > Leyna, you cannot generalize about a class of medication, > > anti-depressants, that has proved to be very effective in the > > treatment of difficult and often fatal conditions. You are speaking > > for others when you do that, as well as giving misleading and false > > information. You _can_ tell me your experience and why _you_ > wouldn't > > take them again. I worked as a mental health nurse for many years, > > and I have seen suicides off and on anti-depressants. Suicide is > the > > fatal symptom caused by depression. Another symptom of depression > is > > living a slow hell of an existance. Antidepressants have made a > > tremendous difference in both areas. I can tell you my own > experience > > with depression which started when I was 22 years old with a suicide > > attempt, almost successful. At that time I was give electro shock > > therapy--it's all they had. After the development of > antidepressants, > > they proved to be a real life saver for me. I am not 'addicted' > to > > antidepressants; they do change your neurotransmitters, and you > can't > > just stop abruptly or the brain gives very unpleasant signals! You > > have to taper off. I have done this many times. I'm sure others > > could give their experiences with antidepressants. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Cymbalta, being a new antidepressant, has not yet shown all it side effects, and they are just coming out. Being a social worker, I gained a great respect for the side effects of medications, and personally, I would just not take this one. Too many problems with side effects. If one does take it, they should read the precautions and watch carefully for side effects. It will be at least 5 years before we have a better picture of what they are. There are so many products that are helpful that do not cause serious side effects. I caution women on taking a large number of prescription drugs, as each one puts more toxic load on our already toxic bodies. We take great caution in advising medications before natural remedies are tried. Lynda At 07:30 AM 11/14/2006, you wrote: > > > > > > > > Posted by: " Lynda " <mailto:coss%40privatei.com>coss@... > > <mailto:coss@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20meds%20and%20supplements> > > lyndaroth2004 > <<lyndaroth2004>lyndaroth200\ 4> > > > > > > Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:00 pm (PST) > > > > Cymbalta has some serious side effects. I would check that out. > >Respectfully, every substance has the potential for side effects. This >is a prescription medication; this means you must be evaluated by a >physician with experience in using it, usually that's a psychiatrist or >a pain specialist! Everything involves risk. I heard women in the same >fibromyalgia support group report some scary results from using 5HTP >because 'someone' told them it would help them. It affects >neurotransmitters as does Cymbalta as well as many other >antidepressants. The choice, of course, is up to the patient! Not to >be argumentative, and in all humility, I thought all treatment >modalities could be brought up for consideration here. :-) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Leyna: > Sorry, I don't mean to offend you, and I'm sorry that you got upset > >with what I said about antidpressants, but I know for a fact that > >MANY people who have depression can cure it by finding out WHY they > >are depressed, rather than just popping a pill that alters their > >brain waves or whatever. You didn't offend me, dear, and I wasn't upset! . :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2006 Report Share Posted November 15, 2006 Psychiatrists usually have that role in an institution, with the counselors doing the majority of the counseling load. At least when I worked there that was the case. And generally the counselor has validated that the patient has a severe-enough depression to warrant meds. I sent patients when I felt they were suicidal or unable to function in the world they needed to be able to function in. I have found that psychiatrists usually are careful with meds, but they do follow the medical model as they are MD's. People are sent to them for meds. Now, if you want to try alternatives, you would go to an alternative practitioner. Today that would definitely be my first choice. Lynda t 10:30 PM 11/14/2006, you wrote: >Diane, >Ok, I'm sure that they have helped some people-and yes, I was >speaking about my own experiences with them, and what I have heard >from other people, and read from reliable sources in the past. > >My problem with psychiatrists is that they NEVER bother to check WHY >a person is depressed-they just automatically write out their >prescriptions for antidepressants, which I think is WRONG. > >For instance...I had a hysterectomy 2 years ago, and was on a >hormone patch. After a few months, I was extremely depressed, >irritable, and having constant panic attacks, and not being able to >sleep at all. > >Desperate, I went to a psychiatrist, who of course prescribed >antidepressants-Cymbalta, in fact. I did not take it, deciding to >try one more doctor....my Gynocologist. He took one look at me, did >some labs, and Wow-what do you know? My hormone patch was not being >absorbed at all-I was getting NO estrogen, and on top of that, my >thyroid was way OVERactive. > >Hmm...how interesting that by switching me to another, better >absorbed HRT medicine, and lowering my thyroid medicine...what do you >know? NO MORE DEPRESSION, PANIC ATTACKS, OR ANXIETY!! > >Now, what would have happened if I had taken the antidepressants >instead? I seriously doubt that I would have gotten rid of all my >symptoms, don't you? > >Doctors want you on antidpressants because it's NOT something you can >just quit cold turkey without horrible withdrawals-you have to keep >coming back-more money for their pockets! > >Sorry, I don't mean to offend you, and I'm sorry that you got upset >with what I said about antidpressants, but I know for a fact that >MANY people who have depression can cure it by finding out WHY they >are depressed, rather than just popping a pill that alters their >brain waves or whatever. > >There are many causes of depression-vitamin defiencies can cause >schitzoprhenia (sp?) and depression, food allergies, thyroid and >hormonal imbalances, etc, etc. I just think that a person should >have a few tests done before they just pop a pill. > >--- In ><mailto: %40> , > " diana crocker " <dwcrn@...> >wrote: > > > > --- In > <mailto: %40> , > " leyna1964 " <leyna1964@> >wrote: > > > > > > --- In > <mailto: %40> , > Crocker <dwcrn@> >wrote: > > > , > > > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all-they >are > > > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are way >too > > > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on >Cymbalta, > > > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on >Prozac, > > > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my >hysterectomy). > > > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide>snip< > > > > Leyna, you cannot generalize about a class of medication, > > anti-depressants, that has proved to be very effective in the > > treatment of difficult and often fatal conditions. You are speaking > > for others when you do that, as well as giving misleading and false > > information. You _can_ tell me your experience and why _you_ >wouldn't > > take them again. I worked as a mental health nurse for many years, > > and I have seen suicides off and on anti-depressants. Suicide is >the > > fatal symptom caused by depression. Another symptom of depression >is > > living a slow hell of an existance. Antidepressants have made a > > tremendous difference in both areas. I can tell you my own >experience > > with depression which started when I was 22 years old with a suicide > > attempt, almost successful. At that time I was give electro shock > > therapy--it's all they had. After the development of >antidepressants, > > they proved to be a real life saver for me. I am not 'addicted' >to > > antidepressants; they do change your neurotransmitters, and you >can't > > just stop abruptly or the brain gives very unpleasant signals! You > > have to taper off. I have done this many times. I'm sure others > > could give their experiences with antidepressants. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Sis, thanks for the kind words. I'm so happy...my whole family is in recovery. Love, Sunny > > > > , > > > > I'm not on antidepressants. I don't believe in them at all- > they > > are > > > > poison, and very addictive, and the studies done on them are > way > > too > > > > short and inconclusive. People have killed themselves on > > Cymbalta, > > > > and it was still released to the public! A doctor put me on > > Prozac, > > > > and then Paxil and Effexor one time for PMS (before my > > hysterectomy). > > > > Within one week, I had plotted my own suicide>snip< > > > > > > Leyna, you cannot generalize about a class of medication, > > > anti-depressants, that has proved to be very effective in the > > > treatment of difficult and often fatal conditions. You are > speaking > > > for others when you do that, as well as giving misleading and > false > > > information. You _can_ tell me your experience and why _you_ > > wouldn't > > > take them again. I worked as a mental health nurse for many > years, > > > and I have seen suicides off and on anti-depressants. Suicide > is > > the > > > fatal symptom caused by depression. Another symptom of > depression > > is > > > living a slow hell of an existance. Antidepressants have made a > > > tremendous difference in both areas. I can tell you my own > > experience > > > with depression which started when I was 22 years old with a > suicide > > > attempt, almost successful. At that time I was give electro > shock > > > therapy--it's all they had. After the development of > > antidepressants, > > > they proved to be a real life saver for me. I am > not 'addicted' > > to > > > antidepressants; they do change your neurotransmitters, and you > > can't > > > just stop abruptly or the brain gives very unpleasant signals! > You > > > have to taper off. I have done this many times. I'm sure others > > > could give their experiences with antidepressants. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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