Re: Tina : the Serenity prayer/Wayne Dyer/

[Guest guest]

I have heard of that prayer.My trouble is,when I go to pray,I can`t remember the

words.The lord`s prayer is about all I can remember.Sometimes Hail

mary,one,though,the other night I couldn`t even remember that.The coconut is

helping some.I had a Wayne Dyer book once.Can`t recall the title now.

>

> Tina

>  

> I know my fear issues came from the way I was treated when I was young and the

many things that had gone wrong in my adult life. And also, because I was

intelligent and I was usually the only person in my life they ever actually new

what was going on

>  

> Most of the folk around me were either oblivious because they were drugged up,

or drunk or had mental impairment or were just arogent and did not really care

what was happening as long as their life was OK

>  

> I was always worrying, in a way I had to, nobody else could be bothered to,

and I was also angry and resentful. not with the mentally impaired but very much

with the drugged up drunk and arrogent, and God too if i am honest, I just could

not understand how and why these lot were so selfish and how God could let this

world me like this

>  

> the conversations in my head basically centred around this. I would watch the

news, and documentaries and read newspapars and frankly research everything. I

was not doing all this to put the fear of Hell into me I was doing this because

i wanted and needed answers. All these folk around me were insane to say the

least, and I wanted to know how I could help them get well so that I would not

have to be so wound up all the time worrying about all these things that were

going on in the world, my world, that everybody else was telling me to chill out

about Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>  

> This is how it was, day in day out.

>  

> I looked after the sick, the mentally impaired, the lonely, the sad, the

vunerable, the needy, the tired, the addicted, the down trodden, the lazy, the

everything. Everywhere I looked there was complete and utter madness, and no

matter how much I went on and on and on about what was very clearly in front of

me and them too for that matter, it always ended up the same!!!!! Patronising

people telling me not to worry and not to let things get me down, just be happy

and all the rest............................. Honestly this was like living in

crazy town!!!!!!!

>  

> LOL

>  

> It is hard to explain how I got myself from there to here. But I did

>  

> One thing I did do was start admiting my helplessness, my true inability to

change any of these folk or the situation.

>  

> This prayer that I picked up at Alanon helped me

>  

>  

> God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

> Courage to change the things I can,

> And wisdom to know the difference

>  

> You know something Tina, you know why I think we end up so worrisome as we do,

I really do think the reason is that we are intelligent and very loving people

>

> Like I said, earlier most folk live in their own bubble. There are a million

reasons why they are like that. Sometimes it is by choice and sometimes they

simply cannot help it, but with us it is like we cannot stop worrying about all

them LOL

>

> Listen, it does come, the freedom comes, out heart do find peace, we do find

away to live in this mad world and not be tormented by it

>

> This guy Wayne Dyer, he has over time helped me a lot with this

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYjPVEFOgg & feature=related

>

> Love joanne

>  

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 17:25

> Subject: Re: tina: Joyce Meyer Magazine

>

>

>  

>

>

> Thankyou.I think,Trusting God when you don`t understand,is so far my favorite

of her sermons,but I have not watched that many yet.The one on attitude

adjustment was also good.I need some to conquor my fears.

> April: Joyce Meyer

>

>  

>

> April

>

> Joyce helps me more than anybody

>

>

>

> Love joanne

>

>

[Guest guest]

When my son was a baby,I was afraid a lot.He was so sick all the time.The first

few times he had a seziure,I was freaking out.Not even knowing,he was having a

seziure at first.I was the only one that saw these seziures at first,so people

didn`t even believe me.Many times,I thought he was going to die.He was in the

hospital many times.He would get sicker after being admitted to the hospital.One

time,he he in well,so they could observe him eat for 3 days.When he was supposed

to leave,he was really sick,and had to stay.He had mono as a baby.Had hernia and

testicle repair when he was a baby.Hospitalized for seziures a couple

times.Having everyone look at you like you are a child abuser.Failure to

thrive.Malnutrition due to celiac and gluten intolerance.I didn`t know any of

this until he was 5 years old.Even then it was hard to put weight on him.He has

loose stool 12 times a day,and reflux.On like every formula and different kinds

of milk,and it seemed,he couldn`t tolerate any foods.Thought of taking him to

Lourds,but,I did not have the money to go there.At that time,I really didn`t

have any faith in god anyway.

>

> Tina

>  

> I know my fear issues came from the way I was treated when I was young and the

many things that had gone wrong in my adult life. And also, because I was

intelligent and I was usually the only person in my life they ever actually new

what was going on

>  

> Most of the folk around me were either oblivious because they were drugged up,

or drunk or had mental impairment or were just arogent and did not really care

what was happening as long as their life was OK

>  

> I was always worrying, in a way I had to, nobody else could be bothered to,

and I was also angry and resentful. not with the mentally impaired but very much

with the drugged up drunk and arrogent, and God too if i am honest, I just could

not understand how and why these lot were so selfish and how God could let this

world me like this

>  

> the conversations in my head basically centred around this. I would watch the

news, and documentaries and read newspapars and frankly research everything. I

was not doing all this to put the fear of Hell into me I was doing this because

i wanted and needed answers. All these folk around me were insane to say the

least, and I wanted to know how I could help them get well so that I would not

have to be so wound up all the time worrying about all these things that were

going on in the world, my world, that everybody else was telling me to chill out

about Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>  

> This is how it was, day in day out.

>  

> I looked after the sick, the mentally impaired, the lonely, the sad, the

vunerable, the needy, the tired, the addicted, the down trodden, the lazy, the

everything. Everywhere I looked there was complete and utter madness, and no

matter how much I went on and on and on about what was very clearly in front of

me and them too for that matter, it always ended up the same!!!!! Patronising

people telling me not to worry and not to let things get me down, just be happy

and all the rest............................. Honestly this was like living in

crazy town!!!!!!!

>  

> LOL

>  

> It is hard to explain how I got myself from there to here. But I did

>  

> One thing I did do was start admiting my helplessness, my true inability to

change any of these folk or the situation.

>  

> This prayer that I picked up at Alanon helped me

>  

>  

> God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

> Courage to change the things I can,

> And wisdom to know the difference

>  

> You know something Tina, you know why I think we end up so worrisome as we do,

I really do think the reason is that we are intelligent and very loving people

>

> Like I said, earlier most folk live in their own bubble. There are a million

reasons why they are like that. Sometimes it is by choice and sometimes they

simply cannot help it, but with us it is like we cannot stop worrying about all

them LOL

>

> Listen, it does come, the freedom comes, out heart do find peace, we do find

away to live in this mad world and not be tormented by it

>

> This guy Wayne Dyer, he has over time helped me a lot with this

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYjPVEFOgg & feature=related

>

> Love joanne

>  

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: fibromyalgiacured

> Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 17:25

> Subject: Re: tina: Joyce Meyer Magazine

>

>

>  

>

>

> Thankyou.I think,Trusting God when you don`t understand,is so far my favorite

of her sermons,but I have not watched that many yet.The one on attitude

adjustment was also good.I need some to conquor my fears.

> April: Joyce Meyer

>

>  

>

> April

>

> Joyce helps me more than anybody

>

>

>

> Love joanne

>

>

[Guest guest]

Probably a miracle he got out of the hospital alive.I`m quite sure,I would have

probably been arrested had he died.He was found to have a chromosome

abnormaality though,probably what saved me from having him taken away.I never

thought he would be 5ft tall.He is just over that and over 100lbs.Will be 18 in

July.Doctors are worthless.Most of them anyway.

> >

> > Tina

> >  

> > I know my fear issues came from the way I was treated when I was young and

the many things that had gone wrong in my adult life. And also, because I was

intelligent and I was usually the only person in my life they ever actually new

what was going on

> >  

> > Most of the folk around me were either oblivious because they were drugged

up, or drunk or had mental impairment or were just arogent and did not really

care what was happening as long as their life was OK

> >  

> > I was always worrying, in a way I had to, nobody else could be bothered to,

and I was also angry and resentful. not with the mentally impaired but very much

with the drugged up drunk and arrogent, and God too if i am honest, I just could

not understand how and why these lot were so selfish and how God could let this

world me like this

> >  

> > the conversations in my head basically centred around this. I would watch

the news, and documentaries and read newspapars and frankly research everything.

I was not doing all this to put the fear of Hell into me I was doing this

because i wanted and needed answers. All these folk around me were insane to say

the least, and I wanted to know how I could help them get well so that I would

not have to be so wound up all the time worrying about all these things that

were going on in the world, my world, that everybody else was telling me to

chill out about Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

> >  

> > This is how it was, day in day out.

> >  

> > I looked after the sick, the mentally impaired, the lonely, the sad, the

vunerable, the needy, the tired, the addicted, the down trodden, the lazy, the

everything. Everywhere I looked there was complete and utter madness, and no

matter how much I went on and on and on about what was very clearly in front of

me and them too for that matter, it always ended up the same!!!!! Patronising

people telling me not to worry and not to let things get me down, just be happy

and all the rest............................. Honestly this was like living in

crazy town!!!!!!!

> >  

> > LOL

> >  

> > It is hard to explain how I got myself from there to here. But I did

> >  

> > One thing I did do was start admiting my helplessness, my true inability to

change any of these folk or the situation.

> >  

> > This prayer that I picked up at Alanon helped me

> >  

> >  

> > God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

> > Courage to change the things I can,

> > And wisdom to know the difference

> >  

> > You know something Tina, you know why I think we end up so worrisome as we

do, I really do think the reason is that we are intelligent and very loving

people

> >

> > Like I said, earlier most folk live in their own bubble. There are a million

reasons why they are like that. Sometimes it is by choice and sometimes they

simply cannot help it, but with us it is like we cannot stop worrying about all

them LOL

> >

> > Listen, it does come, the freedom comes, out heart do find peace, we do find

away to live in this mad world and not be tormented by it

> >

> > This guy Wayne Dyer, he has over time helped me a lot with this

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYjPVEFOgg & feature=related

> >

> > Love joanne

> >  

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: " tinasmith448@ " <tinasmith448@>

> > To: fibromyalgiacured

> > Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 17:25

> > Subject: Re: tina: Joyce Meyer Magazine

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> > Thankyou.I think,Trusting God when you don`t understand,is so far my

favorite of her sermons,but I have not watched that many yet.The one on attitude

adjustment was also good.I need some to conquor my fears.

> > April: Joyce Meyer

> >

> >  

> >

> > April

> >

> > Joyce helps me more than anybody

> >

> >

> >

> > Love joanne

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

And god grant me,forgiveness,because the anger I feel for these

cocky,arrogant,worthless SOBs with their worthless college education.Modern

medicine is a joke.A money making racket.

> > >

> > > Tina

> > >  

> > > I know my fear issues came from the way I was treated when I was young and

the many things that had gone wrong in my adult life. And also, because I was

intelligent and I was usually the only person in my life they ever actually new

what was going on

> > >  

> > > Most of the folk around me were either oblivious because they were drugged

up, or drunk or had mental impairment or were just arogent and did not really

care what was happening as long as their life was OK

> > >  

> > > I was always worrying, in a way I had to, nobody else could be bothered

to, and I was also angry and resentful. not with the mentally impaired but very

much with the drugged up drunk and arrogent, and God too if i am honest, I just

could not understand how and why these lot were so selfish and how God could let

this world me like this

> > >  

> > > the conversations in my head basically centred around this. I would watch

the news, and documentaries and read newspapars and frankly research everything.

I was not doing all this to put the fear of Hell into me I was doing this

because i wanted and needed answers. All these folk around me were insane to say

the least, and I wanted to know how I could help them get well so that I would

not have to be so wound up all the time worrying about all these things that

were going on in the world, my world, that everybody else was telling me to

chill out about Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

> > >  

> > > This is how it was, day in day out.

> > >  

> > > I looked after the sick, the mentally impaired, the lonely, the sad, the

vunerable, the needy, the tired, the addicted, the down trodden, the lazy, the

everything. Everywhere I looked there was complete and utter madness, and no

matter how much I went on and on and on about what was very clearly in front of

me and them too for that matter, it always ended up the same!!!!! Patronising

people telling me not to worry and not to let things get me down, just be happy

and all the rest............................. Honestly this was like living in

crazy town!!!!!!!

> > >  

> > > LOL

> > >  

> > > It is hard to explain how I got myself from there to here. But I did

> > >  

> > > One thing I did do was start admiting my helplessness, my true inability

to change any of these folk or the situation.

> > >  

> > > This prayer that I picked up at Alanon helped me

> > >  

> > >  

> > > God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

> > > Courage to change the things I can,

> > > And wisdom to know the difference

> > >  

> > > You know something Tina, you know why I think we end up so worrisome as we

do, I really do think the reason is that we are intelligent and very loving

people

> > >

> > > Like I said, earlier most folk live in their own bubble. There are a

million reasons why they are like that. Sometimes it is by choice and sometimes

they simply cannot help it, but with us it is like we cannot stop worrying about

all them LOL

> > >

> > > Listen, it does come, the freedom comes, out heart do find peace, we do

find away to live in this mad world and not be tormented by it

> > >

> > > This guy Wayne Dyer, he has over time helped me a lot with this

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYjPVEFOgg & feature=related

> > >

> > > Love joanne

> > >  

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " tinasmith448@ " <tinasmith448@>

> > > To: fibromyalgiacured

> > > Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 17:25

> > > Subject: Re: tina: Joyce Meyer Magazine

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > > Thankyou.I think,Trusting God when you don`t understand,is so far my

favorite of her sermons,but I have not watched that many yet.The one on attitude

adjustment was also good.I need some to conquor my fears.

> > > April: Joyce Meyer

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > April

> > >

> > > Joyce helps me more than anybody

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Love joanne

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yea,

am still wondering about the idea. Though dead, cremation

means I won't have a tombstone. I want " Don step on Me, Please "

written on it...yea, a comedian to the end.

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina : the Serenity prayer/Wayne Dyer/

 

,

Don't think that is morbid at all.  The only difference between what you and I

want is that I would prefer to be cremated .  There again some of my family

would not approve.

Lovell

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 8:04 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina : the Serenity prayer/Wayne Dyer/

 

Not meaning to sound morbid to anyone...someone got shocked at my plans.

But am not having a funeral. Instructions are bury me in the cheapest coffin

available right away. Any prayers can be said before or after. As for flowers,

if you won't give them to me while alive, why do I want them when I'm dead. 

No point in being extravagant over a dead me.

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina : the Serenity prayer/Wayne Dyer/

 

Joanne,

Just had to make a comment here.  What your priest said about carers having

less people show up at their funeral than other people.  It would be my

preference not to have a funeral anyway.   I think if people don't really care

about me while I'm alive then why bother coming to my funeral.  I know that the

funeral is actually for the family.  Therefore, whatever they choose to do when

I die will be O.K.  Even in the end we will be trying to make others happy.

Love,

Lovell

________________________________

To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured >

Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 4:26 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Tina : the Serenity prayer/Wayne Dyer/

 

Tina

I know, I have had more of them than I have of all the others in my life. And

every time I tried to get back on my feet from the last nightmare, another one

turned up, and then another and then another............................... and

then another!!!!

But you know what, it is not about them, it is about us!!!!

My great gran was told she had syphilis, it now emerges that was probably

vaccines from the war. Her family disowned her

She was given antibiotics and her daughter, my gran was never well. She ended up

in mental hospitals and a story as long as your arm

Her mom, the lady with the so called syphilis, could not take care of her and so

she was abandoned at 6. This is the gran with all the health problems, including

mental health problems

Her daughters, all have reactive arthiritis, which is associated with syphilis,

but they do not have syphilis. The eldest of these got MS

My mom is the only one not affected in those ways, she is an alcoholic

I may have the reactive arthiritis, my symptoms are the same as my aunt, the

doctors ignore this tell me it is fibro, and here in England fibro is still a

psychological condition, hense the reason I do have never had any welfare

benefit even when I could not walk, and I now also do not have help from the

doctors

My sister was vaccinated and got diabetes immediately after. My mom told them it

was the vaccines and she was told she was a paranoid unstable mother

On my dads side we have the Parkinsons due to the food, and no doubt treatments

they have all had. We are all chemical sensitive.

And there are at least a zillion other things some of which I know you already

know

And it is them, and it is not us

I have been told since being small it was all me, in one form or another, and

simply just ran around like an headless chicken from being small trying to solve

it all. I was the only one brainy enough to figure out anything, and each time I

did I had some clown telling me I was wrong or stupid or too sensitive, too much

of a worrier and all the rest

But, seriously, I did, I know I nearly died with all this. Was it a stroke, is

it Parkinsons? I really do not know, but I have hit the cross bar more then

once.

The sick and vulnerable in my family still need me now

From being tiny I have looked after the sick every single day of my life. Not

one day off. Not one day off

I am fortunately healthy now, but I am generally dressed like a tramp and I do

not look the part, as in how I would need to look to take all these lot on

Plus I do not have the physical mental or emotional strength to fight them. I am

well but could not do it. I never will be able to.

But this thing is also the poison from them, and this is the bigger poison,

because they do harm them we love, and us with their scientific madness, but the

thing that really is their legacy is what they do to good women, and good men

too

I do not know the answer regarding this, but I know that the madness of it all

has affected me and affected the other good people in my family more than

anybody.

Right now it is my dad and hubby that need me most, when I was younger it was

the children, one day it will be the granchildren and on and on this story goes

and will go

I am always going to be that person. regardless of if things go well or go bad,

that person is still going to be me. I am going to be caring for the sick until

the day I die

My priest told me that carers often have the least people present at their

funerals. If that does not tell you it all

But this does not matter, because, there is no way all this can be going on

without their being a higher thing going on too. and it is knowing that that has

helped me blow the bubbles away. I have to be sane and healthy because tomorrow

and the next day, and the day after that, and every day that I am here on this

planet I am going to be looking after folk

You see it is not about all them it is about me, and this madness I know happens

to everybody that has a good heart, and it is not as powerful as the man on our

side

Love you

Love Joanne

________________________________

To: fibromyalgiacured

Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 19:52

Subject: Re: Tina : the Serenity prayer/Wayne Dyer/

 

And god grant me,forgiveness,because the anger I feel for these

cocky,arrogant,worthless SOBs with their worthless college education.Modern

medicine is a joke.A money making racket.

> > >

> > > Tina

> > >  

> > > I know my fear issues came from the way I was treated when I was young and

the many things that had gone wrong in my adult life. And also, because I was

intelligent and I was usually the only person in my life they ever actually new

what was going on

> > >  

> > > Most of the folk around me were either oblivious because they were drugged

up, or drunk or had mental impairment or were just arogent and did not really

care what was happening as long as their life was OK

> > >  

> > > I was always worrying, in a way I had to, nobody else could be bothered

to, and I was also angry and resentful. not with the mentally impaired but very

much with the drugged up drunk and arrogent, and God too if i am honest, I just

could not understand how and why these lot were so selfish and how God could let

this world me like this

> > >  

> > > the conversations in my head basically centred around this. I would watch

the news, and documentaries and read newspapars and frankly research everything.

I was not doing all this to put the fear of Hell into me I was doing this

because i wanted and needed answers. All these folk around me were insane to say

the least, and I wanted to know how I could help them get well so that I would

not have to be so wound up all the time worrying about all these things that

were going on in the world, my world, that everybody else was telling me to

chill out about Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr

> > >  

> > > This is how it was, day in day out.

> > >  

> > > I looked after the sick, the mentally impaired, the lonely, the sad, the

vunerable, the needy, the tired, the addicted, the down trodden, the lazy, the

everything. Everywhere I looked there was complete and utter madness, and no

matter how much I went on and on and on about what was very clearly in front of

me and them too for that matter, it always ended up the same!!!!! Patronising

people telling me not to worry and not to let things get me down, just be happy

and all the rest............................. Honestly this was like living in

crazy town!!!!!!!

> > >  

> > > LOL

> > >  

> > > It is hard to explain how I got myself from there to here. But I did

> > >  

> > > One thing I did do was start admiting my helplessness, my true inability

to change any of these folk or the situation.

> > >  

> > > This prayer that I picked up at Alanon helped me

> > >  

> > >  

> > > God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

> > > Courage to change the things I can,

> > > And wisdom to know the difference

> > >  

> > > You know something Tina, you know why I think we end up so worrisome as we

do, I really do think the reason is that we are intelligent and very loving

people

> > >

> > > Like I said, earlier most folk live in their own bubble. There are a

million reasons why they are like that. Sometimes it is by choice and sometimes

they simply cannot help it, but with us it is like we cannot stop worrying about

all them LOL

> > >

> > > Listen, it does come, the freedom comes, out heart do find peace, we do

find away to live in this mad world and not be tormented by it

> > >

> > > This guy Wayne Dyer, he has over time helped me a lot with this

> > >

> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRYjPVEFOgg & feature=related

> > >

> > > Love joanne

> > >  

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: " tinasmith448@ " <tinasmith448@>

> > > To: fibromyalgiacured

> > > Sent: Sunday, 19 February 2012, 17:25

> > > Subject: Re: tina: Joyce Meyer Magazine

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > > Thankyou.I think,Trusting God when you don`t understand,is so far my

favorite of her sermons,but I have not watched that many yet.The one on attitude

adjustment was also good.I need some to conquor my fears.

> > > April: Joyce Meyer

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > > April

> > >

> > > Joyce helps me more than anybody

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Love joanne

> > >

> > >