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Hi,

I don't understand what disorder you are referring to as " m " or

" multi " pd, I can't find it in the DSM-IV, used by American

psychiatrists to classify and diagnose various mental illnesses.

http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/dsm4TRclassification.htm

Are you using a European DSM? I understand they use different names

for some disorders and have some different ways of classifying

various mental illnesses.

In any case, it is entirely possible for an individual to have

" co-morbidities " , or more than one mental illness at the same time.

I personally believe that my mother, who has been diagnosed twice

with borderline pd, could also have narcissistic pd and maybe even

sociopathic pd, because she shares some of their behavioral traits as

well.

-Annie

>

> Hi-

> I have been observing a bit but don't know how to post a reply-

> guess I should get the book, but I'm not sure how bpd relates to mpd-

> it seems to me as if some people on your site may really have parents

> with mpd, not bpd. Not all, of course, but some of the behaviors

> mentioned fit better with a person who has mpd rather than bpd.

> My mom had mpd, but this were referred to me as a site I might

> find some company- this does seem likely! But the two are different,

> after all. mpd is very consistent with some of the people who say they

> 'didn't do (or say)' something everyone knows they did do or say, as

> well as with those who appear to be being honest, and behave

> differently when saying they 'don't remember.'

> With those who appear to be genuinely kind and sincere at some

> times, and at other times are just the opposite, and then say they

> 'don't remember' being that way...it's true this appears to be just

> the kid caught with the 'hand in the cookie jar' kind of 'denying'

> disclaimer,but if they actually DON'T remember, this would be entirely

> consistent with mpd, and they would actually,in that case, be telling

> the truth.

> It would not be at all surprising if some of the parents on this

> site had mpd, even if their problem has supposedly been I.D.'d as bpd,

> because people with mpd have a usual span of 7 years of treatment for

> something else than mpd, when mpd was the real problem all along.At

> least the adult children involved should think about it. Ad.Ch.of Mult

>

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I am guessing she may be referring to Dissociative Identity Disorder

(formerly known in the DSM as Multiple Personality Disorder).

I suppose it is possible for BPD and DID to be comorbid disorders.

It is very common for people with BPD to " forget " some events--or

even just have a very different memory than other people have. I

think that is different from someone with DID who actually " loses "

large chunks of time (presumably things done while another

personality was dominant).

My research into BPD suggests that any person who endures enough

emotional trauma can suffer permanent damage to certain areas of the

brain, making it harder to remember events that happen when that

person is under particular stress. For example, my mother doesn't

remember her rages when I bring them up later. She claims not to

remember calling me a bitch when I was 9 because I didn't like the

clothes she wanted me to buy at the store, or yelling at me for 2

hours straight before I went away to college. I don't think that

necessarily means she had another personality at that point. She was

the same mean old lady she always has been, she just can't seem to

handle remembering it. She has a public face she puts on--but I

don't think that's the same as a separate personality. She is in

control of her behavior and knows how to act in public so as to fool

the world into believing something she doesn't--that she is a good

person.

DID is an interesting thought, though, and maybe someone out there

will benefit from looking into it.

kt

> >

> > Hi-

> > I have been observing a bit but don't know how to post a

reply-

> > guess I should get the book, but I'm not sure how bpd relates to

mpd-

> > it seems to me as if some people on your site may really have

parents

> > with mpd, not bpd. Not all, of course, but some of the behaviors

> > mentioned fit better with a person who has mpd rather than bpd.

> > My mom had mpd, but this were referred to me as a site I

might

> > find some company- this does seem likely! But the two are

different,

> > after all. mpd is very consistent with some of the people who say

they

> > 'didn't do (or say)' something everyone knows they did do or say,

as

> > well as with those who appear to be being honest, and behave

> > differently when saying they 'don't remember.'

> > With those who appear to be genuinely kind and sincere at

some

> > times, and at other times are just the opposite, and then say they

> > 'don't remember' being that way...it's true this appears to be

just

> > the kid caught with the 'hand in the cookie jar' kind of 'denying'

> > disclaimer,but if they actually DON'T remember, this would be

entirely

> > consistent with mpd, and they would actually,in that case, be

telling

> > the truth.

> > It would not be at all surprising if some of the parents on

this

> > site had mpd, even if their problem has supposedly been I.D.'d as

bpd,

> > because people with mpd have a usual span of 7 years of treatment

for

> > something else than mpd, when mpd was the real problem all

along.At

> > least the adult children involved should think about it. Ad.Ch.of

Mult

> >

>

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