Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Wow Jo I need to re-read this when don't have babies climbing on my knee but I really do feel that trauma is what causes illness anyway, and all the toxins from moern life, electromagnetic I have looked into less - but want to when have time. I will say this - I can feel something from phones, itouch, etc - I cannot explain as I get efensive about it, because my family call me " silly " at best. But if I pick up a phone, or something emitting or receiving rays, I can feel it as warmth and hear buzzing so I try to avoid, but it is everywhere! (Wireless and phone masts that is)  ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2012, 22:12 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Bianca  My fibro is trauma related. I will try to explain how all this fits together to give you a better picture as to how in some circumstances trama can be tied in with our illness  If we look back before the time the trauma came about most of us find that all was not too well for us then either. My stuff began when I was a child but I did not have full blown fibro then, just signs of it, ie colic, pains in joints, binging and things. Anyway before all this, I mean going right back to the start my mom, I think was not too well when she was carrying me, and then when I was born I was bottle fed on cows milk (I cannot tolerate cows milk) and I was given antibioitics, these cause candida, I had amalgam fillings, still have, and had my tonsils out, this lowers immunity  Anyway the years went by, and I went to school, did OK there to some extent but some of the subjects were too demanding for me, but I got by, I would not moan too much about that. But the diet was western and as the years went by both at home and at school I was not eating right, mainly carbs, diet coke and stuff like that.  As a teenager I started smoking and was out all hours and as a young adult I worked far too hard. I took many meds i should not have, including antidepressants, beta blockers, antibioitcs, hormones and much more. I continued with the low fat diet, got very fat, and whilst all this was going on went through a terrible divorse and got far too involved with my extended family  Now this list goes on and on, this above is just a brief description but I think even with this brief account you can kind of see the build up towards my fibro beginning  Now since i have had fibro I have been studying it and now realise that it is besically a gut, nervous system and brain disorder. All our body aches and we have hundreds of problems everywhere, but if we focus on these three things the gut the nervous system and the brain we can usually find a pathway to work on and from this we can also help our own body heal other things, things like the liver, the thyroid, adrenals and so on.  Anyway, regarding the trauma. I spent too long on this. I mean in the early days. The doctors told me that the trauma was the main thing and at the time it did kind of seem to be, since I was indeed traumatised and I was experiencing symptoms in accordance with this, but the methods I was using back then were not getting me well  The reason why I could not get well with only psychological treatments was that although it was important I sorted all this stuff out, whilst my body was in disarray with fibro there was no way that the healing I needed was going to take place. It became a chicken and agg situation and dispite all my efforts fibro was winning  I now know, that fibro, basicallly is, in me a form of manutrition. Not because I did not eat enough, boy oh boy, I never stopped eating LOL, but I was not eating correctly, and the diet I was eating was waring my body down  Also, I have also realised, since then that I do not detox easily. I have toxins in my body from my fillings, electromagnetism and many other things, and in addition to this when ever I experieince negative emotions my body has trouble detoxing the toxic chemicals that come from this too.  So basically, in a nut shell, my diet was not providing the nutrition my body needed to cope with toxicity. High toxicity was coming my way because the western world is very toxic, and me having all this trauma and not being able to detox the chemicals in my body that were created with all that meant my body got overloaded and fibro emerged  I have now reversed this. I have to rush because folk are shouting me here. But in brief I have put my fibro in reverse by making my diet and keeping in ketosis my priority. This has strengthened my immune system no end. I also assist my body to detox, using coffee enemas, epsom salt baths, gardeing and so on. And I have dealt with my emotional stuff, sharing here with friends, and at alanon, and using paul mckenna and other stuff. These last three things I mention here are a God send, but I am certain I could not have gotten this recovery without the ketosis diet and the detoxing  I so hope this makes sense. I can share more about all this in the near future but tonight they are all pulling my strings at this end  I will try to get online later  Love joanne ________________________________ To: fibromyalgiacured Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2012, 19:13 Subject: Strange symptoms...  I don't want to sound like a malingerer - I am generally fit and healthy but I have started to get a really odd sensation. It started may be 6 weeks ago. I have been exploring how trauma is healed in the body as physical symptoms and started listening to these pocasts that were meditations to tap into past hurts and resolve the phsyical ills caused by them - this might have NOTHING to do with what is going on with my body, but it might. Other info I can say is that I have ha chronic stress for a long time, was getting palpatations an have even had shortness of breath, feeling dizzy sometimes. So gradually I have started to feel more and more tingling in my feet (it started there) and then sometimes hands, and the sensation is spreaing - can feel a tickly sensation in chest now - and my body feels - overstimulated! I cannot describe it, it is sort of pleasurable, sometimes almost sensual - sometimes it feels like restless legs and itchy in my legs. Sounds weird huh? Has anyone experienced anything like this? Could be a mineral deficiency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Okay watched utube and ordering the film from Lovefilm! ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012, 17:49 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Bianca  I know you might be wondering what 'Doose Syndrome' has to do with our illness, but please bare with me, this is going take time to explain  But this here is what you see happen for this wee boy can happen for you  I will post more later  In the meantime if you can get hold of the DVD First Do No Harm starring Meryl Streep, and watch that, that will tell you much of what is going on with us and why we have no cure, no cure through the medical world that is   Love Joanne ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012, 17:04 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Wow Jo I need to re-read this when don't have babies climbing on my knee but I really do feel that trauma is what causes illness anyway, and all the toxins from moern life, electromagnetic I have looked into less - but want to when have time. I will say this - I can feel something from phones, itouch, etc - I cannot explain as I get efensive about it, because my family call me " silly " at best. But if I pick up a phone, or something emitting or receiving rays, I can feel it as warmth and hear buzzing so I try to avoid, but it is everywhere! (Wireless and phone masts that is)  ________________________________ From: Joanne Ford <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk> To: " mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com " <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2012, 22:12 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Bianca  My fibro is trauma related. I will try to explain how all this fits together to give you a better picture as to how in some circumstances trama can be tied in with our illness  If we look back before the time the trauma came about most of us find that all was not too well for us then either. My stuff began when I was a child but I did not have full blown fibro then, just signs of it, ie colic, pains in joints, binging and things. Anyway before all this, I mean going right back to the start my mom, I think was not too well when she was carrying me, and then when I was born I was bottle fed on cows milk (I cannot tolerate cows milk) and I was given antibioitics, these cause candida, I had amalgam fillings, still have, and had my tonsils out, this lowers immunity  Anyway the years went by, and I went to school, did OK there to some extent but some of the subjects were too demanding for me, but I got by, I would not moan too much about that. But the diet was western and as the years went by both at home and at school I was not eating right, mainly carbs, diet coke and stuff like that.  As a teenager I started smoking and was out all hours and as a young adult I worked far too hard. I took many meds i should not have, including antidepressants, beta blockers, antibioitcs, hormones and much more. I continued with the low fat diet, got very fat, and whilst all this was going on went through a terrible divorse and got far too involved with my extended family  Now this list goes on and on, this above is just a brief description but I think even with this brief account you can kind of see the build up towards my fibro beginning  Now since i have had fibro I have been studying it and now realise that it is besically a gut, nervous system and brain disorder. All our body aches and we have hundreds of problems everywhere, but if we focus on these three things the gut the nervous system and the brain we can usually find a pathway to work on and from this we can also help our own body heal other things, things like the liver, the thyroid, adrenals and so on.  Anyway, regarding the trauma. I spent too long on this. I mean in the early days. The doctors told me that the trauma was the main thing and at the time it did kind of seem to be, since I was indeed traumatised and I was experiencing symptoms in accordance with this, but the methods I was using back then were not getting me well  The reason why I could not get well with only psychological treatments was that although it was important I sorted all this stuff out, whilst my body was in disarray with fibro there was no way that the healing I needed was going to take place. It became a chicken and agg situation and dispite all my efforts fibro was winning  I now know, that fibro, basicallly is, in me a form of manutrition. Not because I did not eat enough, boy oh boy, I never stopped eating LOL, but I was not eating correctly, and the diet I was eating was waring my body down  Also, I have also realised, since then that I do not detox easily. I have toxins in my body from my fillings, electromagnetism and many other things, and in addition to this when ever I experieince negative emotions my body has trouble detoxing the toxic chemicals that come from this too.  So basically, in a nut shell, my diet was not providing the nutrition my body needed to cope with toxicity. High toxicity was coming my way because the western world is very toxic, and me having all this trauma and not being able to detox the chemicals in my body that were created with all that meant my body got overloaded and fibro emerged  I have now reversed this. I have to rush because folk are shouting me here. But in brief I have put my fibro in reverse by making my diet and keeping in ketosis my priority. This has strengthened my immune system no end. I also assist my body to detox, using coffee enemas, epsom salt baths, gardeing and so on. And I have dealt with my emotional stuff, sharing here with friends, and at alanon, and using paul mckenna and other stuff. These last three things I mention here are a God send, but I am certain I could not have gotten this recovery without the ketosis diet and the detoxing  I so hope this makes sense. I can share more about all this in the near future but tonight they are all pulling my strings at this end  I will try to get online later  Love joanne ________________________________ From: biancajacobsimon <mailto:biancajacobsimon%40yahoo.com> To: mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2012, 19:13 Subject: Strange symptoms...  I don't want to sound like a malingerer - I am generally fit and healthy but I have started to get a really odd sensation. It started may be 6 weeks ago. I have been exploring how trauma is healed in the body as physical symptoms and started listening to these pocasts that were meditations to tap into past hurts and resolve the phsyical ills caused by them - this might have NOTHING to do with what is going on with my body, but it might. Other info I can say is that I have ha chronic stress for a long time, was getting palpatations an have even had shortness of breath, feeling dizzy sometimes. So gradually I have started to feel more and more tingling in my feet (it started there) and then sometimes hands, and the sensation is spreaing - can feel a tickly sensation in chest now - and my body feels - overstimulated! I cannot describe it, it is sort of pleasurable, sometimes almost sensual - sometimes it feels like restless legs and itchy in my legs. Sounds weird huh? Has anyone experienced anything like this? Could be a mineral deficiency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I find it interesting what you say - that we canot resolve emotional trauma unless sort out diet. I'd love to hear more about that. I have had so much counselling etc therapies, and I have a really great awareness - and last therapist said to me not to do anymore therapies, just to understand thta there is nothing wrong with me. I have tried pretty much everything, but still loose control of emotions easily and can be a very gentle, warm person with these awful shouty aggressive spikes. ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012, 17:43 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Bianca  There are three things we have to look at  1) Diet 2) Toxicity 3) Emotional Toxicity, which is much the same as toxicity but does need some different stuff  We here, lots of us, are well over 90% well from our fibro and also what we have learned has enabled us to help hundreds of people between us, but for us to pass this on to you we really do need you to keep coming back here for at least 6 weeks  I do know that sounds like a long time and sadly lots of folk have come here only to hear one part of all this and leave. What we have been doing here works but because it is so very different to what other people claim work for us, it can be so so confusing.  But I can promise you if you can remain with us for a few weeks what you learn here will work for you in more ways than one  I agree with you that the trama is the big thing and it is in fact one of the hardest things to sort and for me it is the hardest thing to explain, but we cannot sort that out unless we work on the diet and the toxicity, and the diet is the most important  I have to go out now, but when I return I will post some more stuff about what is going on with us and what we need to do  I can imagine this is going to be a bit hard for you since you have small children, but it is not going to be impossible and what you learn here to help yourself will also be of use to you regarding your children. Both my children are doing the same as me and their health, both phyisically and emotionally is very good indeed (They are just a bit to vain for my liking, but that is only because they look so good now LOL)  Love Joanne ________________________________ To: " fibromyalgiacured " <fibromyalgiacured > Sent: Monday, 16 July 2012, 17:04 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Wow Jo I need to re-read this when don't have babies climbing on my knee but I really do feel that trauma is what causes illness anyway, and all the toxins from moern life, electromagnetic I have looked into less - but want to when have time. I will say this - I can feel something from phones, itouch, etc - I cannot explain as I get efensive about it, because my family call me " silly " at best. But if I pick up a phone, or something emitting or receiving rays, I can feel it as warmth and hear buzzing so I try to avoid, but it is everywhere! (Wireless and phone masts that is)  ________________________________ From: Joanne Ford <mailto:joannesford%40yahoo.co.uk> To: " mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com " <mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2012, 22:12 Subject: Re: Strange symptoms.../Bianca  Bianca  My fibro is trauma related. I will try to explain how all this fits together to give you a better picture as to how in some circumstances trama can be tied in with our illness  If we look back before the time the trauma came about most of us find that all was not too well for us then either. My stuff began when I was a child but I did not have full blown fibro then, just signs of it, ie colic, pains in joints, binging and things. Anyway before all this, I mean going right back to the start my mom, I think was not too well when she was carrying me, and then when I was born I was bottle fed on cows milk (I cannot tolerate cows milk) and I was given antibioitics, these cause candida, I had amalgam fillings, still have, and had my tonsils out, this lowers immunity  Anyway the years went by, and I went to school, did OK there to some extent but some of the subjects were too demanding for me, but I got by, I would not moan too much about that. But the diet was western and as the years went by both at home and at school I was not eating right, mainly carbs, diet coke and stuff like that.  As a teenager I started smoking and was out all hours and as a young adult I worked far too hard. I took many meds i should not have, including antidepressants, beta blockers, antibioitcs, hormones and much more. I continued with the low fat diet, got very fat, and whilst all this was going on went through a terrible divorse and got far too involved with my extended family  Now this list goes on and on, this above is just a brief description but I think even with this brief account you can kind of see the build up towards my fibro beginning  Now since i have had fibro I have been studying it and now realise that it is besically a gut, nervous system and brain disorder. All our body aches and we have hundreds of problems everywhere, but if we focus on these three things the gut the nervous system and the brain we can usually find a pathway to work on and from this we can also help our own body heal other things, things like the liver, the thyroid, adrenals and so on.  Anyway, regarding the trauma. I spent too long on this. I mean in the early days. The doctors told me that the trauma was the main thing and at the time it did kind of seem to be, since I was indeed traumatised and I was experiencing symptoms in accordance with this, but the methods I was using back then were not getting me well  The reason why I could not get well with only psychological treatments was that although it was important I sorted all this stuff out, whilst my body was in disarray with fibro there was no way that the healing I needed was going to take place. It became a chicken and agg situation and dispite all my efforts fibro was winning  I now know, that fibro, basicallly is, in me a form of manutrition. Not because I did not eat enough, boy oh boy, I never stopped eating LOL, but I was not eating correctly, and the diet I was eating was waring my body down  Also, I have also realised, since then that I do not detox easily. I have toxins in my body from my fillings, electromagnetism and many other things, and in addition to this when ever I experieince negative emotions my body has trouble detoxing the toxic chemicals that come from this too.  So basically, in a nut shell, my diet was not providing the nutrition my body needed to cope with toxicity. High toxicity was coming my way because the western world is very toxic, and me having all this trauma and not being able to detox the chemicals in my body that were created with all that meant my body got overloaded and fibro emerged  I have now reversed this. I have to rush because folk are shouting me here. But in brief I have put my fibro in reverse by making my diet and keeping in ketosis my priority. This has strengthened my immune system no end. I also assist my body to detox, using coffee enemas, epsom salt baths, gardeing and so on. And I have dealt with my emotional stuff, sharing here with friends, and at alanon, and using paul mckenna and other stuff. These last three things I mention here are a God send, but I am certain I could not have gotten this recovery without the ketosis diet and the detoxing  I so hope this makes sense. I can share more about all this in the near future but tonight they are all pulling my strings at this end  I will try to get online later  Love joanne ________________________________ From: biancajacobsimon <mailto:biancajacobsimon%40yahoo.com> To: mailto:fibromyalgiacured%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 15 July 2012, 19:13 Subject: Strange symptoms...  I don't want to sound like a malingerer - I am generally fit and healthy but I have started to get a really odd sensation. It started may be 6 weeks ago. I have been exploring how trauma is healed in the body as physical symptoms and started listening to these pocasts that were meditations to tap into past hurts and resolve the phsyical ills caused by them - this might have NOTHING to do with what is going on with my body, but it might. Other info I can say is that I have ha chronic stress for a long time, was getting palpatations an have even had shortness of breath, feeling dizzy sometimes. So gradually I have started to feel more and more tingling in my feet (it started there) and then sometimes hands, and the sensation is spreaing - can feel a tickly sensation in chest now - and my body feels - overstimulated! I cannot describe it, it is sort of pleasurable, sometimes almost sensual - sometimes it feels like restless legs and itchy in my legs. Sounds weird huh? Has anyone experienced anything like this? Could be a mineral deficiency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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