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In a message dated 10/5/01 9:17:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mspiggy_039@... writes:

> Can a diabetic use FRUCTOSE? isnt it a sugar?

> or should I stick to like an equal sweetner with

> aspartene?

>

Hi Deb,

I use " Splenda " which is derived from sugar and have no problem with it. I

use it in my cereal and my hot tea. I drink the soft drinks that have

Splenda in them.

Eunice

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Hi Marie and all,

I m new to this list.. went looking for a support

group and found this one.

I have been diagnosed with type 2.

I had got to the dr looking for dieting help and dr

had me go to lab for some blood tests cause of the

diabetes in my family history and found my numbers to

be in the diabetic range. I ve been following the

diabetic exchange diet for a couple weeks now and

started walking 19 days ago.. I m up to 1-1/2 miles

Someitmes I get stumped with the exchange diet but

have sent for lierature from ADA and have some books

from library to help and of course now I have u..

I do have a ?????? if someone can answer it for me

Can a diabetic use FRUCTOSE? isnt it a sugar?

or should I stick to like an equal sweetner with

aspartene?

Thanks,

Deb

--- " Marie . " wrote:

> Welcome to the list.

>

> Please do not hate " diabetes " it may have saved your

> life. Having

> diabetes will help you make up your mind to eat

> right and exercise

> like all of us should have been doing all along.

> Many of us need to

> lose weight or need to continue losing more weight.

>

> " ACCEPTING " diabetes is the key to success in " you "

> being in control.

> Aiming to keep diabetes in " tight control " will go a

> long ways in

> preventing or reversing complications now or in the

> future. No matter

> how high the BS is right now, make up your mind that

> you will lower it

> via eating proper foods in proper portions and

> exercising. Will take a

> while but with a desire and dedication you " will "

> succeed.

>

> The rote of managing diabetes will fall into place

> and you just do

> what you have to do as matter of course.

>

> Do not dwell on the foods you no longer will eat

> freely, instead

> concentrate on finding which foods work best for you

> in order to keep

> the BS in a level line without the spikes or lows

> and in the desired

> range. Make changes in your priorities and get with

> the program.

>

> Those controlling via diet/exercise only have less

> problems with

> " lows " but those on meds must watch closer and keep

> a balance to

> prevent them.

>

> Doctors do not tell you this but even if you are on

> meds it is

> possible to reach the point of control where you can

> go off of meds.

> Several have done this on another diabetic forum.

> Most doctors and

> CDE's will indicate that some day you will end up on

> insulin as tho it

> is going to happen. Not so, you may be one of those

> who can control

> sufficiently to get off of meds and live a med free

> life.

>

> I control via diet/exercise only and aim to do so as

> long as possible

> or permanently. No one knows what the future holds

> but we can work at

> tight control. I aim to keep BS (blood sugar)

> readings within a normal

> persons range instead of being happy with it in the

> diabetic range.

>

> Damage starts at BS 160 and most places including

> the ADA and Joslin

> sites give 180 as diabetic range. I personally do

> not want to aim for

> the 180 which is higher than the damage range. Many

> are diagnosed with

> very high numbers but with wise food choices,

> exercise and weight loss

> they brought their BS down to the normal range. Some

> were put on meds

> and able to get off later, some still on meds, some

> never went on

> meds.

>

> Most people have diabetes 10 years before doctors

> find out you have it

> and much has already been done to your body. It is

> up to " us " and no

> one else to take control and deal with diabetes. Of

> course we need

> input from our doctors, diabetes educators and

> others but it all boils

> down to " us " to do the work in controlling.

>

> Using a glucometer and testing before meals, 1 hr.

> after and again 2

> hrs after will help find out what certain foods are

> doing to your BS.

> Walking 30 mins after a meal will help keep BS down

> also. Usually 1

> mile will = 20 points down depending on what was

> eaten. Some foods are

> harder to walk down than others.

>

> Be sure and have the A1C test done every 3 months.

> This test averages

> glucose over the past 3 months. Better indicator of

> whether you are in

> control or not. The fasting glucose test taken only

> indicates that

> moment what is in the bloodstream but the A1C tells

> off on us for

> total of 3 months. We an be good for a few days

> before the glucose

> test and come out with a good number but the A1C

> tells all.

>

> If you have not seen a certified diabetes educator,

> you need to in

> order to get a food plan worked out just for you

> based on your likes,

> dislikes, lifestyle. Adjustments will most likely

> need to be made but

> it will be a start for you.

>

> Read, read, read, read everything you can bout

> diabetes. The better

> educated you are regarding the disease the better

> you will be able to

> communicate with your doctor and better able to take

> care of yourself.

>

> Hope this will be of some help to you. Please let us

> know how you are

> doing. If you have any questions please ask. There

> are never any

> " silly questions " they are all important. We are all

> at various stages

> of this disease and we have all been at the

> beginning stage the same

> as you.

>

> Marie

>

> A treadmill is a wise investment and using it after

> every meal is even

> wiser. Or take a walk after lunch at work. A walk

> will do you more

> good than playing a game of cards.

>

> The reason walking is so good for you is because the

> large muscles

> burns more glucose from the body than small muscles

> do.

>

> If BS is high before a meal, choose wisely so you do

> not add too many

> carbs and make it go way too high.

>

> CDEs usually tell people they can eat a certain

> number of

> carbohydrates but many find it is too much. Each

> person is different

> and must adjust the number of carbs to meet their

> needs. In my case I

> was given 42 individual carbs per meal but in

> reality 30 carbs will

> keep BS under tight control and the 42 I will be out

> of control. One

> person will be able to eat pizza and another one

> will not. One person

> may eat another food and someone else will not be

> able to and keep BS

> under control. We are individuals when it comes to

> what and how much

> we can eat and be in control.

>

> Please do not go into or stay in " denial " it will

> only allow diabetic

> damage to ravage your body. Get busy now and make

> adjustments in your

> lifestyle. This is not a temporary change but a

> lifetime change for

> better health.

>

> When someone mentions they can have certain number

> carbs they may be

> referring to " carbohydrate exchanges " or " individual

> carbohydrates " .

> Starch foods = 1 serving = 1 exchange = 15

> individual carbs

> Non-starch veggies = 1 serving = 1 exchange = 5

> individual carbs

> 1 oz meat = 0 carbs (if floured, etc. it will have

> carbs)

> Meat size deck of cards or 3 oz. is considered a

> serving.

> Raw veggie serving = 1 cup

> Cooked veggie serving = 1/2 cup

> Fruit is usually 1/2 piece = 1 exchange = 15

> individual carbs

> Some fruits such as 2 plums = 1 serving

> 15 grapes equals 1 serving

>

> Some people subtract " fiber " from total amount carbs

> in a food since

> it does not absorb or raise BS but I do not

> subtract.

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Thanks Marie..

I ll steer clear of Fructose then...

Deb

--- " Marie . " wrote:

> Frutose is still a " sugar " and will raise the BS but

> may not do so

> quite as fast as regular sugar. Best to stay away

> from it and use

> some of the fake sweetners.

>

> Watch for anything ending in " ose " and " hol " . You

> will sometimes see

> in ingredients it contains a sugar alcohol which

> will also raise BS.

>

> I use a small amount of " Splenda " on my oatmeal mix

> in the morning.

> Splenda is made from real sugar but no longer has

> the sugar part that

> spikes BS. However, some people find that fake

> sweetners will raise

> their BS some and others it does not.

>

> You may need to try different fake sweetners to find

> one your

> tastebuds like.

>

> Marie

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Welcome to the list.

> > >

> > > Please do not hate " diabetes " it may have saved

> your

> > > life. Having

> > > diabetes will help you make up your mind to eat

> > > right and exercise

> > > like all of us should have been doing all along.

> > > Many of us need to

> > > lose weight or need to continue losing more

> weight.

> > >

> > > " ACCEPTING " diabetes is the key to success in

> " you "

> > > being in control.

> > > Aiming to keep diabetes in " tight control " will

> go a

> > > long ways in

> > > preventing or reversing complications now or in

> the

> > > future. No matter

> > > how high the BS is right now, make up your mind

> that

> > > you will lower it

> > > via eating proper foods in proper portions and

> > > exercising. Will take a

> > > while but with a desire and dedication you

> " will "

> > > succeed.

> > >

> > > The rote of managing diabetes will fall into

> place

> > > and you just do

> > > what you have to do as matter of course.

> > >

> > > Do not dwell on the foods you no longer will eat

> > > freely, instead

> > > concentrate on finding which foods work best for

> you

> > > in order to keep

> > > the BS in a level line without the spikes or

> lows

> > > and in the desired

> > > range. Make changes in your priorities and get

> with

> > > the program.

> > >

> > > Those controlling via diet/exercise only have

> less

> > > problems with

> > > " lows " but those on meds must watch closer and

> keep

> > > a balance to

> > > prevent them.

> > >

> > > Doctors do not tell you this but even if you are

> on

> > > meds it is

> > > possible to reach the point of control where you

> can

> > > go off of meds.

> > > Several have done this on another diabetic

> forum.

> > > Most doctors and

> > > CDE's will indicate that some day you will end

> up on

> > > insulin as tho it

> > > is going to happen. Not so, you may be one of

> those

> > > who can control

> > > sufficiently to get off of meds and live a med

> free

> > > life.

> > >

> > > I control via diet/exercise only and aim to do

> so as

> > > long as possible

> > > or permanently. No one knows what the future

> holds

> > > but we can work at

> > > tight control. I aim to keep BS (blood sugar)

> > > readings within a normal

> > > persons range instead of being happy with it in

> the

> > > diabetic range.

> > >

> > > Damage starts at BS 160 and most places

> including

> > > the ADA and Joslin

> > > sites give 180 as diabetic range. I personally

> do

> > > not want to aim for

> > > the 180 which is higher than the damage range.

> Many

> > > are diagnosed with

> > > very high numbers but with wise food choices,

> > > exercise and weight loss

> > > they brought their BS down to the normal range.

> Some

> > > were put on meds

> > > and able to get off later, some still on meds,

> some

> > > never went on

> > > meds.

> > >

> > > Most people have diabetes 10 years before

> doctors

> > > find out you have it

> > > and much has already been done to your body. It

> is

> > > up to " us " and no

> > > one else to take control and deal with diabetes.

> Of

> > > course we need

> > > input from our doctors, diabetes educators and

> > > others but it all boils

> > > down to " us " to do the work in controlling.

> > >

> > > Using a glucometer and testing before meals, 1

> hr.

> > > after and again 2

> > > hrs after will help find out what certain foods

> are

> > > doing to your BS.

> > > Walking 30 mins after a meal will help keep BS

> down

> > > also. Usually 1

> > > mile will = 20 points down depending on what was

> > > eaten. Some foods are

> > > harder to walk down than others.

> > >

> > > Be sure and have the A1C test done every 3

> months.

> > > This test averages

> > > glucose over the past 3 months. Better indicator

> of

> > > whether you are in

> > > control or not. The fasting glucose test taken

> only

> > > indicates that

> > > moment what is in the bloodstream but the A1C

> tells

> > > off on us for

> > > total of 3 months. We an be good for a few days

> > > before the glucose

> > > test and come out with a good number but the A1C

> > > tells all.

>

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I hope this isn't too far off the Diabetes topic. But I have a question that

the Drs. don't seem to know or don't want to talk about.

Every since I was 30 my pulse was at 96. Through the years <I was very active

during this time>>My pulse continued to climb until it reached 120 at rest. I

could never get my heart rate higher when I exercised, I was worn out from

the attempt to higher my heart rate. Now at 50 my pulse stays around 80-85.

If I walk or display any form of exercise it feels like my heart is going to

jump out of my chest.

I have had my heart checked, and everything is fine. My blood pressure is

always good at 120/70.

My question..why is my pulse dropping>? Sometimes it will drop to 65. Any

suggestions out there? I get this worried feeling my heart is slowing down

and is going to stop.

I know this seems like a petty problem for me to worry about, but it is there

and I am curious as to why.

Thanks for ALL the support you all give each other.

Snowy09

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In a message dated 10/8/01 7:58:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

snowylake09@... writes:

> Sometimes it will drop to 65. Any

> suggestions out there? I get this worried feeling my heart is slowing down

> and is going to stop.

>

I don't think 65 is too low. Before I went on one of the BP meds, my pulse

was around 85 to 90, gradually climbing until it was up to 115 and higher. I

did not like this high number. After going on the meds, it came down and

most of the time was in the 60's. Now that I'm off the meds, my pulse rate

stays around 70's-80's unless I get on the treadmill.

Eunice

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Hi Carol from MI. My name is Marie from Boston and I

am new to the group too. Good luck on your quest to

lose weight, and get healthy. This group is very

supportive and they all have something interesting and

important to say about diabetes. I have found it most

helpful. My boyfriend, Bob, is the reason I joined

this group. I needed help in coping as a caregiver,

and everyone has been wonderful. Marie from Boston

--- Carol Stark wrote:

>

> > Hi! I just joined the list a couple of days ago,

> and thought I

> should

> > introduce myself. I have Type II, hate it

> immensely, and am

> impressed

> > with the humor & good feeling on the list.

>

> I was diagnosed about 5 mounths ago and

> eventhough I'm not wild

> about it it just may have saved my life. I had a

> tumor removed,

> along with the right side of my thyroid, about 3

> years ago. Since

> that time I gained bout over a 100lbs. and my

> colestrol and such were

> out of control. Dr. told me I was in perfect line up

> for a heart-

> attack. My weight was 337. Welll, I now lost about

> 30lbs., for now.

> and my blood sugar have been staying under 150 for

> the most part. So

> you it's like diabetes ahs saved my life. I'm

> hoping that the more

> weight that comes off the more normal my blood sugar

> gets.

> God Bless

> Carol from MI

>

>

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