Re: Probiotics-Last questions, I promise!!!

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Oh, gosh... Thanks for all this, but I've never been able to stand even a bite of yogurt, and dislike milk very much. (I guess because I wasn't raised on either, since my Mom doesn't eat anything dairy other than salad dressing.) Yogurt/milk literally makes me gag and heave. I've tried and tried to have it when I've taken antibiotics to avoid yeast infections, and just CANNOT do it. (My husband likes yogurt, so we usually have some around, but we normally don't have milk because neither of us like it. If we need some to cook, we run and get it or I use canned milk.)

As for kraut... I don't know that I can stomach that, either, but I can try if it's just a few bites per day. I've eaten it on rare occasion with vinegar. My brother makes it homemade and cans it. (Ya'll would like his eating habits... He LITERALLY lives off of what he GROWS and kills. He and his wife live on $600/month, so that is it. I never realized how healthy it forces him to eat! lol Although, they are both skin and bones.)

If the only problem with the acidophilus products I posted before are the number of living organisms, it comes in 1 billion for $8, 2 billion for $13, and 4 billion for $20.

Would 2 or 4 billion be enough? I could probably swing those. My main concern is if that's the right product or not, and if it is maybe I'll do those plus kraut to come up with enough living organisms. It would still be cheaper than $30 or $50/mo.

Thanks gals.

Brig

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In a message dated 8/4/2006 9:58:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

I doubt that your brother and his wife need probiotics! . . .It's probably a little late for this year . .. but if you live near your brother, why not work out a deal to buy veggies from him? . .. You'll save money . .. eat better, and he can make some extra pocket change.

I know this will make me sound like a country girl... but here goes...

Sometimes he gives my mom and me veggies for taking him toiletries and such, but he needs his extra so that he is able to can it. Then, he trades them all winter for feed for his animals. He has a few hunting dogs, and a horse that needs hay and horse mill. (He doesn't have a car, he rides a horse. Yes, a horse. lol VERY primitive life!) If I asked him to take money for it instead, he'd think I needed the food, then not take my money and it would put him out... that's just how he is.

Great suggestion, though...

Better yet, I swear next year I'm going to try to do it for myself. I bought everything (seed and plants) for my brother's BIG garden this year for $60. And to think, you can have fresh and canned veggies all summer and winter for that. I wouldn't need one 1/10 the size of his. The worst that can happen is that I don't have the energy and it dies! I'd be out a few handfuls of seeds!

Thanks for all the help! I am going to try the kraut idea.

Brig

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Brigite . . . I doubt that your brother and his wife need probiotics! . . .It's probably a little late for this year . .. but if you live near your brother, why not work out a deal to buy veggies from him? . .. You'll save money . .. eat better, and he can make some extra pocket change. When you eat "close to the earth" . . . you're getting all the natural organisms that humans were meant to get through their diet . . . What's happened in our marvelous technological, germ-phobic, fertilized, herbicided, pasturized, processed, homoned and antibiotic world is that all the little organisms that keep us health are systematically killed off . . . Much of the food that's readily available is just a bunch of calorie loaded chemicals flavored to taste good. They even add chemicals to increase our appetite so we'll eat more! . .There's little to no

nutrition left in the foods. . . Is it any wonder we're a nation of overweight people? . . . We can eat to our hearts content, but we're still hungry for the nutrients our body needs. My hubby loves bottled cheese dip . .. I finally got him to read the ingredients - chemicals, chemicals, chemicals - then asked him where the nutrition was . .. The only thing shown on the bottle is a little calcium . . . no vitamins - nothing! . .. He's decided he's not it buying any more. When someone gets sick (like women with implants), there immune system takes multiple hits from the suppressed immune system and all the medications we load up on to manage the symptoms. You really need to be taking probiotics all the time . .. At least until you feel like a million bucks and have no health problems left. . .. Yeah. . . .I"m thinking the same thing fo

rmyself . . . "Dream on" . .. If you can get the organisms in your food, you're better off than taking supplements. ly, I think it's worth learning to enjoy fermented foods . . . They probably will upset your stomach at first because your poor tummy hasn't seen that much live food in a while . .. But, it will get used to it - and you'll feel better too! You can mix some fruit with yogurt . . . put some vanilla or other flavoring in it, or use it an any number of creative ways . . . as a salad dressing, as a dip . . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader Joe's yogurt cream cheese ... Yummy! I don't think you can judge the quality of probitics just by the quantity of organisms alone . .. You want a varitey of organisms . . . and you want them to be alive . .. When they're over-processed like our foods, they lose their potency too. That's why the refrigerated ones are best. Hugs and prayers, Rogene KissofSadness@... wrote: Oh, gosh... Thanks for all this, but I've never been able to stand even a bite of yogurt, and dislike milk very much. (I guess because I wasn't raised on either, since my Mom doesn't eat anything dairy other than salad dressing.) Yogurt/milk

literally makes me gag and heave. I've tried and tried to have it when I've taken antibiotics to avoid yeast infections, and just CANNOT do it. (My husband likes yogurt, so we usually have some around, but we normally don't have milk because neither of us like it. If we need some to cook, we run and get it or I use canned milk.) As for kraut... I don't know that I can stomach that, either, but I can try if it's just a few bites per day. I've eaten it on rare occasion with vinegar. My brother makes it homemade and cans it. (Ya'll would like his eating habits... He LITERALLY lives off of what he GROWS and kills. He and his wife live on $600/month, so that is it. I never realized how healthy it forces him to eat! lol Although, they are both skin and bones.) If the only problem with the acidophilus products I posted before are

the number of living organisms, it comes in 1 billion for $8, 2 billion for $13, and 4 billion for $20. Would 2 or 4 billion be enough? I could probably swing those. My main concern is if that's the right product or not, and if it is maybe I'll do those plus kraut to come up with enough living organisms. It would still be cheaper than $30 or $50/mo. Thanks gals. Brig

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Yes . .. all yogurt is fermented . . . but the stuff in the store have been processed to eliminate most of the organisms you need. It's still better than nothing! - - - Especially plain yogurt - with no sweetner. Rogene

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ulie, You can buy some quality yogurts at the health food store. What you want to see is "live and active cultures". Those are the fermented yogurts, and they will have the beneficial cultures in them. There are other cheap yogurts that are nothing more than milk, gelatin and sugar...stay away from those. They have nothing good in them at all...no live bacteria that populates the gut. Just calories. Good brands with live and active cultures include StonyField Farms, Brown Cow, Horizon, and 's. I know there are others, but those are the ones I have purchased when I don't make my own. Patty "jdebolt@..." <jdebolt@...> wrote: "ly, I think it's worth learning to enjoy fermented foods . . . They probably will upset your stomach at first because your poor tummy hasn't seen that much live food in a while . .. But, it will get used to it - and you'll feel better too! You can mix some fruit with yogurt . . . put some vanilla or other flavoring in it, or use it an any number of creative ways . . . as a salad dressing, as a dip . . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader Joe's yogurt cream cheese ... Yummy!" Are all yogurts fermented? Or are you talking about homemade ones, Rogene? ~ married to DH Mark, and sharing the lives of nine busy children. <3 <3 Re: Probiotics-Last questions, I promise!!! Brigite . . . I doubt that your brother and his wife need probiotics! . . .It's probably a little late

for this year . .. but if you live near your brother, why not work out a deal to buy veggies from him? . .. You'll save money . .. eat better, and he can make some extra pocket change. When you eat "close to the earth" . . . you're getting all the natural organisms that humans were meant to get through their diet . . . What's happened in our marvelous technological, germ-phobic, fertilized, herbicided, pasturized, processed, homoned and antibiotic world is that all the little organisms that keep us health are systematically killed off . . . Much of the food that's readily available is just a bunch of calorie loaded chemicals flavored to taste good. They even add chemicals to increase our appetite so we'll eat more! . .There's little to no nutrition left in the foods. . . Is it any wonder we're a nation of overweight people? . . . We can eat to

our hearts content, but we're still hungry for the nutrients our body needs. My hubby loves bottled cheese dip . .. I finally got him to read the ingredients - chemicals, chemicals, chemicals - then asked him where the nutrition was . .. The only thing shown on the bottle is a little calcium . . . no vitamins - nothing! . .. He's decided he's not it buying any more. When someone gets sick (like women with implants), there immune system takes multiple hits from the suppressed immune system and all the medications we load up on to manage the symptoms. You really need to be taking probiotics all the time . .. At least until you feel like a million bucks and have no health problems left. . .. Yeah. . . .I"m thinking the same thing fo rmyself . . . "Dream on" . .. If you can get the organisms in your food, you're better off than taking supplements.

ly, I think it's worth learning to enjoy fermented foods . . . They probably will upset your stomach at first because your poor tummy hasn't seen that much live food in a while . .. But, it will get used to it - and you'll feel better too! You can mix some fruit with yogurt . . . put some vanilla or other flavoring in it, or use it an any number of creative ways . . . as a salad dressing, as a dip . . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader Joe's yogurt cream cheese ... Yummy! I don't think you can judge the quality of probitics just by the quantity of organisms alone . .. You want a varitey of organisms . . . and you want them to be alive . .. When they're over-processed like our foods, they lose their potency too. That's why the refrigerated ones are best. Hugs and prayers, Rogene KissofSadnessaol wrote: Oh, gosh... Thanks for all this, but I've never been able to stand even a bite of yogurt, and dislike milk very much. (I guess because I wasn't raised on either, since my Mom doesn't eat anything dairy other than salad dressing.) Yogurt/milk literally makes me gag and heave. I've tried and tried to have it when I've taken antibiotics to avoid yeast infections, and just CANNOT do it. (My husband likes yogurt, so we usually have some around, but we normally don't have milk because neither of us like it. If we need some to cook, we run and get it or I use canned milk.) As for kraut... I don't know that I can stomach that,

either, but I can try if it's just a few bites per day. I've eaten it on rare occasion with vinegar. My brother makes it homemade and cans it. (Ya'll would like his eating habits... He LITERALLY lives off of what he GROWS and kills. He and his wife live on $600/month, so that is it. I never realized how healthy it forces him to eat! lol Although, they are both skin and bones.) If the only problem with the acidophilus products I posted before are the number of living organisms, it comes in 1 billion for $8, 2 billion for $13, and 4 billion for $20. Would 2 or 4 billion be enough? I could probably swing those. My main concern is if that's the right product or not, and if it is maybe I'll do those plus kraut to come up with enough living organisms. It would still be cheaper than $30 or $50/mo. Thanks gals. Brig

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"ly, I think it's worth learning to enjoy fermented foods . . . They probably will upset your stomach at first because your poor tummy hasn't seen that much live food in a while . .. But, it will get used to it - and you'll feel better too! You can mix some fruit with yogurt . . . put some vanilla or other flavoring in it, or use it an any number of creative ways . . . as a salad dressing, as a dip . . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader Joe's yogurt cream cheese ... Yummy!"

Are all yogurts fermented? Or are you talking about homemade ones, Rogene?

~ married to DH Mark, and sharing the lives of nine busy children. <3 <3

Re: Probiotics-Last questions, I promise!!!

Brigite . . .

I doubt that your brother and his wife need probiotics! . . .It's probably a little late for this year . .. but if you live near your brother, why not work out a deal to buy veggies from him? . .. You'll save money . .. eat better, and he can make some extra pocket change.

When you eat "close to the earth" . . . you're getting all the natural organisms that humans were meant to get through their diet . . .

What's happened in our marvelous technological, germ-phobic, fertilized, herbicided, pasturized, processed, homoned and antibiotic world is that all the little organisms that keep us health are systematically killed off . . . Much of the food that's readily available is just a bunch of calorie loaded chemicals flavored to taste good. They even add chemicals to increase our appetite so we'll eat more! . .There's little to no nutrition left in the foods. . .

Is it any wonder we're a nation of overweight people? . . . We can eat to our hearts content, but we're still hungry for the nutrients our body needs.

My hubby loves bottled cheese dip . .. I finally got him to read the ingredients - chemicals, chemicals, chemicals - then asked him where the nutrition was . .. The only thing shown on the bottle is a little calcium . . . no vitamins - nothing! . .. He's decided he's not it buying any more.

When someone gets sick (like women with implants), there immune system takes multiple hits from the suppressed immune system and all the medications we load up on to manage the symptoms.

You really need to be taking probiotics all the time . .. At least until you feel like a million bucks and have no health problems left. . .. Yeah. . . .I"m thinking the same thing fo rmyself . . . "Dream on" . .. If you can get the organisms in your food, you're better off than taking supplements.

ly, I think it's worth learning to enjoy fermented foods . . . They probably will upset your stomach at first because your poor tummy hasn't seen that much live food in a while . .. But, it will get used to it - and you'll feel better too! You can mix some fruit with yogurt . . . put some vanilla or other flavoring in it, or use it an any number of creative ways . . . as a salad dressing, as a dip . . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader Joe's yogurt cream cheese ... Yummy!

I don't think you can judge the quality of probitics just by the quantity of organisms alone . .. You want a varitey of organisms . . . and you want them to be alive . .. When they're over-processed like our foods, they lose their potency too. That's why the refrigerated ones are best.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

KissofSadnessaol wrote:

Oh, gosh... Thanks for all this, but I've never been able to stand even a bite of yogurt, and dislike milk very much. (I guess because I wasn't raised on either, since my Mom doesn't eat anything dairy other than salad dressing.) Yogurt/milk literally makes me gag and heave. I've tried and tried to have it when I've taken antibiotics to avoid yeast infections, and just CANNOT do it. (My husband likes yogurt, so we usually have some around, but we normally don't have milk because neither of us like it. If we need some to cook, we run and get it or I use canned milk.)

As for kraut... I don't know that I can stomach that, either, but I can try if it's just a few bites per day. I've eaten it on rare occasion with vinegar. My brother makes it homemade and cans it. (Ya'll would like his eating habits... He LITERALLY lives off of what he GROWS and kills. He and his wife live on $600/month, so that is it. I never realized how healthy it forces him to eat! lol Although, they are both skin and bones.)

If the only problem with the acidophilus products I posted before are the number of living organisms, it comes in 1 billion for $8, 2 billion for $13, and 4 billion for $20.

Would 2 or 4 billion be enough? I could probably swing those. My main concern is if that's the right product or not, and if it is maybe I'll do those plus kraut to come up with enough living organisms. It would still be cheaper than $30 or $50/mo.

Thanks gals.

Brig

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Patty,

How do you make your own yoghurt? I eat yoghurt every

single day, mixed with flaxseed. It gets expenive

buying so much-I'd love to learn to make my own!

--- Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

> ulie,

> You can buy some quality yogurts at the health

> food store. What you want to see is " live and active

> cultures " . Those are the fermented yogurts, and they

> will have the beneficial cultures in them.

>

> There are other cheap yogurts that are nothing

> more than milk, gelatin and sugar...stay away from

> those. They have nothing good in them at all...no

> live bacteria that populates the gut. Just

> calories.

>

> Good brands with live and active cultures include

> StonyField Farms, Brown Cow, Horizon, and 's.

> I know there are others, but those are the ones I

> have purchased when I don't make my own.

> Patty

>

>

> " jdebolt@... " <jdebolt@...> wrote:

> " ly, I think it's worth learning

> to enjoy fermented foods . . . They probably will

> upset your stomach at first because your poor tummy

> hasn't seen that much live food in a while . .. But,

> it will get used to it - and you'll feel better too!

> You can mix some fruit with yogurt . . . put some

> vanilla or other flavoring in it, or use it an any

> number of creative ways . . . as a salad dressing,

> as a dip . . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader

> Joe's yogurt cream cheese ... Yummy! "

>

> Are all yogurts fermented? Or are you talking

> about homemade ones, Rogene?

>

>

> ~ married to DH Mark, and sharing the lives

> of nine busy children. <3 <3

> Re: Probiotics-Last

> questions, I promise!!!

>

>

> Brigite . . .

>

> I doubt that your brother and his wife need

> probiotics! . . .It's probably a little late for

> this year . .. but if you live near your brother,

> why not work out a deal to buy veggies from him? .

> .. You'll save money . .. eat better, and he can

> make some extra pocket change.

>

> When you eat " close to the earth " . . . you're

> getting all the natural organisms that humans were

> meant to get through their diet . . .

>

> What's happened in our marvelous technological,

> germ-phobic, fertilized, herbicided, pasturized,

> processed, homoned and antibiotic world is that all

> the little organisms that keep us health are

> systematically killed off . . . Much of the food

> that's readily available is just a bunch of calorie

> loaded chemicals flavored to taste good. They even

> add chemicals to increase our appetite so we'll eat

> more! . .There's little to no nutrition left in the

> foods. . .

>

> Is it any wonder we're a nation of overweight

> people? . . . We can eat to our hearts content, but

> we're still hungry for the nutrients our body needs.

>

>

> My hubby loves bottled cheese dip . .. I finally

> got him to read the ingredients - chemicals,

> chemicals, chemicals - then asked him where the

> nutrition was . .. The only thing shown on the

> bottle is a little calcium . . . no vitamins -

> nothing! . .. He's decided he's not it buying any

> more.

>

> When someone gets sick (like women with implants),

> there immune system takes multiple hits from the

> suppressed immune system and all the medications we

> load up on to manage the symptoms.

>

> You really need to be taking probiotics all the

> time . .. At least until you feel like a million

> bucks and have no health problems left. . .. Yeah. .

> . .I " m thinking the same thing fo rmyself . . .

> " Dream on " . .. If you can get the organisms in your

> food, you're better off than taking supplements.

>

> ly, I think it's worth learning to enjoy

> fermented foods . . . They probably will upset your

> stomach at first because your poor tummy hasn't seen

> that much live food in a while . .. But, it will get

> used to it - and you'll feel better too! You can mix

> some fruit with yogurt . . . put some vanilla or

> other flavoring in it, or use it an any number of

> creative ways . . . as a salad dressing, as a dip .

> . . My favorite cream cheese is Trader Joe's yogurt

> cream cheese ... Yummy!

>

> I don't think you can judge the quality of

> probitics just by the quantity of organisms alone .

> .. You want a varitey of organisms . . . and you

> want them to be alive . .. When they're

> over-processed like our foods, they lose their

> potency too. That's why the refrigerated ones are

> best.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

> KissofSadness@... wrote:

> Oh, gosh... Thanks for all this, but I've

> never been able to stand even a bite of yogurt, and

> dislike milk very much. (I guess because I wasn't

> raised on either, since my Mom doesn't eat anything

> dairy other than salad dressing.) Yogurt/milk

> literally makes me gag and heave. I've tried and

> tried to have it when I've taken antibiotics to

> avoid yeast infections, and just CANNOT do it. (My

> husband likes yogurt, so we usually have some

> around, but we normally don't have milk because

> neither of us like it. If we need some to cook, we

> run and get it or I use canned milk.)

>

> As for kraut... I don't know that I can stomach

> that, either, but I can try if it's just a few bites

> per day. I've eaten it on rare occasion with

> vinegar. My brother makes it homemade and cans it.

> (Ya'll would like his eating habits... He LITERALLY

> lives off of what he GROWS and kills. He and his

> wife live on $600/month, so that is it. I never

> realized how healthy it forces him to eat! lol

> Although, they are both skin and bones.)

>

> If the only problem with the acidophilus products

> I posted before are the number of living organisms,

> it comes in 1 billion for $8, 2 billion for $13, and

> 4 billion for $20.

> Would 2 or 4 billion be enough? I could probably

> swing those. My main concern is if that's the right

> product or not, and if it is maybe I'll do those

> plus kraut to come up with enough living organisms.

> It would still be cheaper than $30 or $50/mo.

>

> Thanks gals.

> Brig

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