Re: Rogene, Sis, Molly etc....

[Guest guest]

I realize that its just I sorta need direction.

[Guest guest]

You can't expect immediate results from many programs - garlic is an exception! . . .that's why you need to keep a journal . . .changes often are slow and subtle. It's when you look back a month or so at a time that you'll see how much progress you're making. GMCLADY98@... wrote: To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did you do a lot of detoxing etc...and if so can

you tell me a good place to start....or did you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different things and I don't see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does seem to help the pain. Thanks again

[Guest guest]

I did some detoxing, not much. I drank a lot of water, and took some

supplements

recommended. I did not do all the other stuff like clay baths, foot baths,

saunas etc etc.

For me, it was mostly time.

I know others here will disagree, but I think our body has a built-in 'detox'

system - our

kidneys, liver, urine etc.

My health has improved dramatically.

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> To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did you do a lot

> of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to start....or did

> you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different things and I

don't

> see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does seem to help the

> pain. Thanks again

>

[Guest guest]

-Rogene,

This is so true but a good reminder. Thanks! That is how it was with my

brain funtion. I just noticed that I was remembering more and more of

what was said. Or what I had to do, it was just back (the memory I mean)

Terri P

-- In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

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> You can't expect immediate results from many programs - garlic is

an exception! . . .that's why you need to keep a journal . . .changes

often are slow and subtle. It's when you look back a month or so at a

time that you'll see how much progress you're making.

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> GMCLADY98@... wrote:

> To thoughs of you that have gotten better after

explant....did you do a lot of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me

a good place to start....or did you just get better with time ? I've

tried so many different things and I don't see any improvement...except

maybe with the garlic it does seem to help the pain. Thanks again

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[Guest guest]

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I have not done alot of detoxing, my body doesn't react well to

certain things. I'm getting better with time, and just taking good

care of myself - not eating sugar, eating more fresh vegetables,

drinking alot of water and taking a probiotic. You have to be

consistent with your habits. You were explanted two months ago, it's

going to take time. Have you tried a probiotic? If so, are you using

it faithfully, every day? You've tried alot of different things, but

from what I understand, when it comes to natural healing, it takes our

bodies a couple of months to respond to supplements, or a change in

eating habits, or even exercise. It's not like taking a magic pill.

I'm not 100% better, but I've seen improvement over time. The first

six months or so I didn't see much of a change, but after that I

noticed subtle changes.

Sis

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> To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did you

do a lot

> of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to

start....or did

> you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different things

and I don't

> see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does seem to

help the

> pain. Thanks again

>

[Guest guest]

Molly writes...

> For me, it was mostly time.

> I know others here will disagree, but I think our body has a built-in

> 'detox' system - our

> kidneys, liver, urine etc.

I think the major factor is TIME! I hate to discourage anyone, but

'though I am improving I've been ill for 12 years now after my explant.

TIME, it takes time, ladies. I took a turn on the 'pity pot' now and

then, so don't feel bad if you find yourself there...just get off! :-)

[Guest guest]

I think a lot of what needs to be done depends on why we got sick. . . . Rejection of materials? fungal issues? infection? Until someone cares enough to do the research, we can't be sure. . . IMHO, we need to adopt the healthiest diet and lifestyle possible . . . and if that isn't doing the job, checking out other healing modalities can help. Probiotics should help everyone though! The balance of beneficial vs. negative organisms has been upset - Those need to be restored. Rogene

[Guest guest]

, IMHO, the best direction you can find is in Rubin's "The Maker's Diet" . . . It's all about restoring a healthy digestive system. Once that is done, the body can begin healing itself. Rogene

[Guest guest]

I agree that our bodies seem intuitively to want to seek to go back

to a state of wholeness. Doctors don't heal us, we heal ourselves.

We can nudge our body back in the right direction with detox, better

diets, supplements, etc. I truly believe in these. But it does

take time...and perhaps that is our body finding its way back. It

is as important for us to " believe " we are getting well, as

everything else we do. There is a powerful connection between the

subconscious mind and anatomic body systems which can control our

health.

Hugs, Kathy

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> > To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did

you do a lot

> > of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to

start....or did

> > you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different

things and I don't

> > see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does seem

to help the

> > pain. Thanks again

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy, I have seen incredible healing when dealing with the

subconscious mind. When I lived on the West Coast of Canada back in

the 90's I took some training in doing " Clearings " ...not hypnosis,

but being relaxed enough to reveal what lies just beneath the

surface. Unbelievable results, for myself. I spent a year-and-a-half

receiving and giving sessions. I had a very destructive " program "

running where I believed that the only way to be loved was to be

sick.

My mother was very busy and worked full-time, 6 days a week. I

barely saw her as I was growing up. My father was away from home

trucking, and he was also one of my sexual abusers. I made a

decision back then when I realized my mother responded to me being

sick, I got attention and gifts....so boy, did I milk that! Also, my

father would leave me alone if I was sick. Double decision.

As I grew up and had relationships, I noticed a pattern emerging

everytime. Also, being ill meant that I wouldn't have to be

responsible for all the work I had to do and could justify asking for

help. WOW! All I can say, is that it really controlled my life. I

had made massive changes, with the healing sessions. Then, when I

continued to get sicker physically, I was really questioning God!

Then, last year....the answer to the mystery! My implants! Hooray

for this site and I am so grateful for all of you.....and God's

guidance.

We all deserve wellness in the 'nth degree!!

Bless you a whole bunch!

Sunny

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> > > To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did

> you do a lot

> > > of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to

> start....or did

> > > you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different

> things and I don't

> > > see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does

seem

> to help the

> > > pain. Thanks again

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

I think there is some sound science (and I mean that in all seriousness) in that

type of

'clearing'. IT sounds like a meditation, of sorts. There was a point in my life

where I tried

biofeedback to help with a very stressful time in my life. It was very similar

to what you

descirbe, only I had the electrical tests to show its effect on my heart rate,

etc.

And it is a way to induce a lower heart rate. It's amazing. In fact, it is

something I would

like to start again - not the biofeedback, but the 'clearing' or meditation. To

me, that is all

medication is. And that is a lot.

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> > > > To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did

> > you do a lot

> > > > of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to

> > start....or did

> > > > you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different

> > things and I don't

> > > > see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does

> seem

> > to help the

> > > > pain. Thanks again

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

I think there is some sound science (and I mean that in all seriousness) in that

type of

'clearing'. IT sounds like a meditation, of sorts. There was a point in my life

where I tried

biofeedback to help with a very stressful time in my life. It was very similar

to what you

descirbe, only I had the electrical tests to show its effect on my heart rate,

etc.

And it is a way to induce a lower heart rate. It's amazing. In fact, it is

something I would

like to start again - not the biofeedback, but the 'clearing' or meditation. To

me, that is all

medication is. And that is a lot.

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> > > > To thoughs of you that have gotten better after explant....did

> > you do a lot

> > > > of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to

> > start....or did

> > > > you just get better with time ? I've tried so many different

> > things and I don't

> > > > see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does

> seem

> > to help the

> > > > pain. Thanks again

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Molly and good for you.

[Guest guest]

Wow Sunny - you have come so far, how inspiring.

I have this great mind-body book that I am reading before surgery,

to put those positive msgs in your mind prior to being operated

on.

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> > > > To thoughs of you that have gotten better after

explant....did

> > you do a lot

> > > > of detoxing etc...and if so can you tell me a good place to

> > start....or did

> > > > you just get better with time ? I've tried so many

different

> > things and I don't

> > > > see any improvement...except maybe with the garlic it does

> seem

> > to help the

> > > > pain. Thanks again

> > > >

> > >

> >

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