Re: New PCD-Nightmare, but may turn out good!

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Hang in there... I think we've all hit brick walls like this doctor, and also experienced the rudeness, snide remarks, and even jokes. It's doc's like him who keep people like us struggling for medical care the way we are.

Thank God for the rest of the staff there...

Good luck!

Brigite

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Leyna, God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for yourself! . . . That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . . . Why in the world would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give a d*** about people, or their feelings! It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once again! Hugs and prayers, Rogene

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I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance

company pays!

Kenda

> Leyna,

>

> God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

> yourself! . . .

>

> That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . . .

> Why in the world would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give

> a d*** about people, or their feelings!

>

> It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

> again!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

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I think Leyna will have the last laugh, and that is what counts.

Lynda

At 03:58 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:

>I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance

>company pays!

>

>Kenda

>

> > Leyna,

> >

> > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

> > yourself! . . .

> >

> > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . . .

> > Why in the world would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he

> doesn't give

> > a d*** about people, or their feelings!

> >

> > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

> > again!

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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I think you need to comlain again, in writing - this doctor made a claim about

silicone

implants that is not true, for one thing: they have not been approved yet by

the FDA.

That is simply a lie. I would be furious about such a doctor.

You have silicone, right? The FDA recommends removal if there is rupture, or

pain...

I think you have every right to have insurance cover it.

>

> Just got home from the new PCD appointment.

>

> I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description of

> En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a

> mammogram that stated Fibrocystic breast disease and breast pain,

> the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had

> Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the referrals I

> needed for doctors and my insurance.

>

> I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.

>

> So they put me in a room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in, he

> did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very rudely

> saying....

>

> " Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of

> implants due to breast cancer, right? "

>

> I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I knew,

> he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!

>

> I said " No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16

> years ago and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of

> health problems and need to have them removed. "

>

> He said " So you think you can just waltz in here and get a referral

> and TennCare will pay for them? HA! "

>

> I said " Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they said they

> would pay for the removal, as long as I had proof they were making

> me sick "

>

> He said " I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast

> impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the

> FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE! They

> will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC! "

>

> I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my

> symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few years,

> I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about my

> friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as me,

> who also has imlants, I tried to tell him everything I've read

> online and in books, etc.

>

> I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with implants-

> he said " That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants! "

>

> He would not listen, but he said " I'll HUMOR you and give you a

> referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me crying

> because TennCare won't cover it! "

>

> I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying right

> there in his office.

>

> He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!

>

> So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in her

> late twenties named Tamera.

>

> She was AWESOME!

>

> Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13 years

> old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant and

> was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was

> consulting with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had

> the money saved up.

>

> She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size 32A...she

> had grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out.

>

> She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said

> the manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she

> said several other people had complained about how rude he was to

> them.

>

> So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about how

> rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like

> this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed

> and wanted some referrals!

>

> (and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the

> plastic surgeon that my Gyno had set me up an appointment with) and

> made sure that he took my insurance.

>

> She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the

> definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did

> that procedure, and he said he could do it that way, Yes.

>

> She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it, as

> long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.

>

> The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare stating

> that this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND RUPTURED

> (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed

> immedietely.

>

> She had to find a " code " for insurance purposes, and the book she

> was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she

> put " Capsulectomy " which was as close as she could find. She said

> there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it in

> the book.

>

> The manager said that she wished more people would come to her about

> this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her) because

> she would have a reason to fire him then!

>

> Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would know

> something from my insurance company by then, because she had put

> URGENT on all the paperwork for me!

>

> Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and said

> they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back to

> them-they would make sure that doctor acted right next time! LOL

>

> Everything is hopefully going to fall into place now-I've taken the

> first steps!

>

[Guest guest]

A lying jerk comes to mind...

>

> Leyna,

>

> God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

yourself! . . .

>

> That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . . .

Why in the world

would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give a d*** about

people, or their

feelings!

>

> It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

again!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Very good point. Wait until you get insurance authorization. I hope you

documented the

day, time and what he said to you, so you can put it into writing later.

>

> I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance

> company pays!

>

> Kenda

>

> > Leyna,

> >

> > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

> > yourself! . . .

> >

> > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . .

..

> > Why in the world would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't

give

> > a d*** about people, or their feelings!

> >

> > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

> > again!

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yes-I plan on going back and rubbing it in his face if they can cover it! I just hope I'll be able to use this Dr. Koleyni....his nurse did not know what En Bloc meant, but when I read the description to her, she said "Oh yes-we can do it that way". So when the time comes for me to go see him on September 7th, I'll find that list of questions to ask him. If he doesn't want to "cooperate" (for lack of a better word! lol) then I'll have to try to take out a loan and get Dr. Melmed (my first choice) to do it. I felt so sorry for that poor little nurse in his office....she went through breast cancer at age 13 and had a masectomy and has the silicone implant. She's having pain too!Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote: Very good point. Wait until you get insurance authorization. I hope you documented the day, time and what he said to you, so you can put it into writing later.>> I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance> company pays!> > Kenda> > > Leyna,> > > > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for> > yourself! . . . > > > > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the

world does he think he is? . . .> > Why in the world would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give> > a d*** about people, or their feelings!> > > > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once> > again!> > > > Hugs and prayers,> > > > Rogene> > > > > >>

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Rogene, You know, that's exactly what I was thinking-why does he even want to be a doctor, if he is so rude and obviously does not like people at all?! I told him that the fillers in silicone implants can KILL roaches! And that Dow Corning originally developed silicone for chemical warfare! I said..."So you think that if that stuff leaked in your body, it wouldn't cause problems and make you sick?" He said "Absolutely not-it's perfectly safe! The FDA has Ok'd it and numerous studies have been done to prove them safe!" I said "You know WHY the FDA has approved them? Because they are a HUGE money-maker, and the FDA has their claws in it-it's all about money-the Medical Industry RULES THE WORLD" He wouldn't look at me then-he had no comment to make.Molly Bloom

<mollyb54@...> wrote: A lying jerk comes to mind...>> Leyna,> > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for yourself! . . . > > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . . . Why in the world would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give a d*** about people, or their

feelings! > > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once again!> > Hugs and prayers,> > Rogene>

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Boy, age 13 and cancer. What a thing to go

through at that age. My heart goes out to her.

Even in our 20's and 30's (or older, like I was

when I had cancer), it is a tough cross to

bear. And then the implant mess on top of it.

I think you helped her with your situation and

support. Maybe now she can look at her problems and see her way to solve them.

Lynda

At 07:09 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:

>Oh yes-I plan on going back and rubbing it in

>his face if they can cover it! I just hope I'll

>be able to use this Dr. Koleyni....his nurse did

>not know what En Bloc meant, but when I read the

>description to her, she said " Oh yes-we can do it that way " .

>

>So when the time comes for me to go see him on

>September 7th, I'll find that list of questions to ask him.

>

>If he doesn't want to " cooperate " (for lack of a

>better word! lol) then I'll have to try to take

>out a loan and get Dr. Melmed (my first choice) to do it.

>

>I felt so sorry for that poor little nurse in

>his office....she went through breast cancer at

>age 13 and had a masectomy and has the silicone implant. She's having pain too!

>

>Molly Bloom <mollyb54@...> wrote:

>Very good point. Wait until you get insurance

>authorization. I hope you documented the

>day, time and what he said to you, so you can put it into writing later.

>

>

> >

> > I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance

> > company pays!

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> > > Leyna,

> > >

> > > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

> > > yourself! . . .

> > >

> > > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the

> world does he think he is? . . .

> > > Why in the world would he want to be a

> doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give

> > > a d*** about people, or their feelings!

> > >

> > > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

> > > again!

> > >

> > > Hugs and prayers,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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Lynda, Very true. This girl was a rock of strength though. I mean, she had grown way past the implant size her surgeon put in at age 13....so she wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out. And she could care less about how her breasts looked! She said she believed that her back pain she's been having IS related to her implant, and that she does want to have it removed and not replaced-she said she'd just wear her prosthesis and could care less! I was SO impressed with her, and also almost ashamed at how paranoid I am about looking deformed after my implants are removed....I know that there are worse things than looking saggy and wrinkled!Lynda <coss@...> wrote: Boy, age 13 and cancer. What a thing to go through at that age. My heart goes out to her.Even in our 20's and 30's (or older, like I was when I had cancer), it is a tough cross to bear. And then the implant mess on top of it.I think you helped her with your situation and support. Maybe now she can look at her problems and see her way to solve them.LyndaAt 07:09 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:>Oh yes-I plan on going back and rubbing it in >his face if they can cover it! I just hope I'll >be able to use this Dr. Koleyni....his nurse did >not know what En Bloc meant, but when I read the >description to her, she said "Oh yes-we can do it that way".>>So when the time comes

for me to go see him on >September 7th, I'll find that list of questions to ask him.>>If he doesn't want to "cooperate" (for lack of a >better word! lol) then I'll have to try to take >out a loan and get Dr. Melmed (my first choice) to do it.>>I felt so sorry for that poor little nurse in >his office....she went through breast cancer at >age 13 and had a masectomy and has the silicone implant. She's having pain too!>>Molly Bloom <mollyb54bellsouth (DOT) net> wrote:>Very good point. Wait until you get insurance >authorization. I hope you documented the>day, time and what he said to you, so you can put it into writing later.>>> >> > I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance> > company pays!> >> > Kenda> >> > > Leyna,> > >> > > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for> > > yourself! . . .> > >> > > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the > world does he think he is? . . .> > > Why in the world would he want to be a > doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give> > > a d*** about people, or their feelings!> > >> > > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once> > > again!> > >> > > Hugs and prayers,> > >> > > Rogene> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>

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Leyna,

She sounds like a real trooper. We need women like that.

Lynda

At 07:51 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:

>Lynda,

>Very true. This girl was a rock of strength

>though. I mean, she had grown way past the

>implant size her surgeon put in at age 13....so

>she wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them

>out. And she could care less about how her

>breasts looked! She said she believed that her

>back pain she's been having IS related to her

>implant, and that she does want to have it

>removed and not replaced-she said she'd just

>wear her prosthesis and could care less! I was

>SO impressed with her, and also almost ashamed

>at how paranoid I am about looking deformed

>after my implants are removed....I know that

>there are worse things than looking saggy and wrinkled!

>

>Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>Boy, age 13 and cancer. What a thing to go

>through at that age. My heart goes out to her.

>

>Even in our 20's and 30's (or older, like I was

>when I had cancer), it is a tough cross to

>bear. And then the implant mess on top of it.

>

>I think you helped her with your situation and

>support. Maybe now she can look at her problems and see her way to solve them.

>

>Lynda

>

>At 07:09 PM 8/24/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Oh yes-I plan on going back and rubbing it in

> >his face if they can cover it! I just hope I'll

> >be able to use this Dr. Koleyni....his nurse did

> >not know what En Bloc meant, but when I read the

> >description to her, she said " Oh yes-we can do it that way " .

> >

> >So when the time comes for me to go see him on

> >September 7th, I'll find that list of questions to ask him.

> >

> >If he doesn't want to " cooperate " (for lack of a

> >better word! lol) then I'll have to try to take

> >out a loan and get Dr. Melmed (my first choice) to do it.

> >

> >I felt so sorry for that poor little nurse in

> >his office....she went through breast cancer at

> >age 13 and had a masectomy and has the

> silicone implant. She's having pain too!

> >

> >Molly Bloom <<mailto:mollyb54%40bellsouth.net>mollyb54@...> wrote:

> >Very good point. Wait until you get insurance

> >authorization. I hope you documented the

> >day, time and what he said to you, so you can put it into writing later.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > I think Leyna ought to write the doc a crappy letter once her insurance

> > > company pays!

> > >

> > > Kenda

> > >

> > > > Leyna,

> > > >

> > > > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

> > > > yourself! . . .

> > > >

> > > > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the

> > world does he think he is? . . .

> > > > Why in the world would he want to be a

> > doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give

> > > > a d*** about people, or their feelings!

> > > >

> > > > It's all downhill from here!

> Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

> > > > again!

> > > >

> > > > Hugs and prayers,

> > > >

> > > > Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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I like your spirit, Leyna. I think you will be fine. ;-)

> >

> > Leyna,

> >

> > God does answer prayers! . . . I'm so proud of you for standing up for

yourself! . . .

> >

> > That guy should be fired! . . . Who in the world does he think he is? . . .

Why in the

world

> would he want to be a doctor . . . obviously he doesn't give a d*** about

people, or their

> feelings!

> >

> > It's all downhill from here! Congradulations! . . . Persistence pays once

again!

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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LOL! . . . Somebody is looking after you! . . . I'd love to be a mouse in the corner when the jerk finds out you've switched docs! I can hear him sputtering from here! Rogene

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WOW!! What an experience. Looks like God was watching over you girl! I am really hoping that this will be your ticket to explant and that it will be a good experience (if you can call it that!) Pattyleyna1964 <leyna1964@...> wrote: Just got home from the new PCD appointment.I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description of En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a mammogram that stated Fibrocystic

breast disease and breast pain, the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the referrals I needed for doctors and my insurance.I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.So they put me in a room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in, he did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very rudely saying...."Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of implants due to breast cancer, right?"I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I knew, he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!I said "No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16 years ago and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of health problems and need to have them removed."He said "So you think you can just waltz in here and get a referral and TennCare will pay for them?

HA!"I said "Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they said they would pay for the removal, as long as I had proof they were making me sick"He said "I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE! They will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC!"I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few years, I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about my friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as me, who also has imlants, I tried to tell him everything I've read online and in books, etc.I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with implants-he said "That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants!"He would not listen, but he

said "I'll HUMOR you and give you a referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me crying because TennCare won't cover it!"I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying right there in his office. He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in her late twenties named Tamera.She was AWESOME!Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13 years old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant and was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was consulting with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had the money saved up. She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size 32A...she had grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out.She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said the

manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she said several other people had complained about how rude he was to them.So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about how rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed and wanted some referrals!(and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the plastic surgeon that my Gyno had set me up an appointment with) and made sure that he took my insurance.She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did that procedure, and he said he could do it that way, Yes.She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it, as long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare stating that

this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND RUPTURED (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed immedietely. She had to find a "code" for insurance purposes, and the book she was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she put "Capsulectomy" which was as close as she could find. She said there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it in the book.The manager said that she wished more people would come to her about this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her) because she would have a reason to fire him then!Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would know something from my insurance company by then, because she had put URGENT on all the paperwork for me!Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and said they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back to them-they would make

sure that doctor acted right next time! LOLEverything is hopefully going to fall into place now-I've taken the first steps!

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Thanks Patty! I hope so too!Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: WOW!! What an experience. Looks like God was watching over you girl! I am really hoping that this will be your ticket to explant and that it will be a good experience (if you can call it that!) Pattyleyna1964 <leyna1964 > wrote: Just got home from the new PCD appointment.I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description of En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a mammogram that stated Fibrocystic breast disease and breast pain, the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the referrals I needed for doctors and my insurance.I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.So they put me in a room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in, he did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very rudely saying...."Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of implants due to breast cancer, right?"I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I knew, he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!I said "No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16 years ago

and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of health problems and need to have them removed."He said "So you think you can just waltz in here and get a referral and TennCare will pay for them? HA!"I said "Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they said they would pay for the removal, as long as I had proof they were making me sick"He said "I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE! They will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC!"I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few years, I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about my friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as me, who also has imlants, I tried to tell him

everything I've read online and in books, etc.I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with implants-he said "That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants!"He would not listen, but he said "I'll HUMOR you and give you a referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me crying because TennCare won't cover it!"I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying right there in his office. He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in her late twenties named Tamera.She was AWESOME!Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13 years old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant and was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was consulting with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had the money saved up.

She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size 32A...she had grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out.She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said the manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she said several other people had complained about how rude he was to them.So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about how rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed and wanted some referrals!(and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the plastic surgeon that my Gyno had set me up an appointment with) and made sure that he took my insurance.She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did that procedure, and he said he could do it

that way, Yes.She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it, as long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare stating that this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND RUPTURED (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed immedietely. She had to find a "code" for insurance purposes, and the book she was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she put "Capsulectomy" which was as close as she could find. She said there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it in the book.The manager said that she wished more people would come to her about this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her) because she would have a reason to fire him then!Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would know something from my insurance company by then,

because she had put URGENT on all the paperwork for me!Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and said they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back to them-they would make sure that doctor acted right next time! LOLEverything is hopefully going to fall into place now-I've taken the first steps! Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business.

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Leyna, That doc did a number on you . . . Do something nice for yourself today! . . . You've fought a hard battle and won! It's time to celebrate!. . . The Lord didn't bring you this far to let you down now. Hugs and prayers, Rogene

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Rogene, Well, I'm not gonna celebrate until I have that letter in my hand that says my insurance will pay for my explantation, and also that the surgeon I'm going to is qualified to do the job! LOL THEN, I'll celebrate good! hahaRogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Leyna, That doc did a number on you . . . Do something nice for yourself today! . . . You've fought a hard battle and won! It's time to celebrate!. . . The Lord didn't bring you this far to let you down now. Hugs and prayers, Rogene __________________________________________________

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We'll be celebrating with you! Rogene Leyna <leyna1964@...> wrote: Rogene, Well, I'm not gonna celebrate until I have that letter in my hand that says my insurance will pay for my explantation, and also that the surgeon I'm going to is qualified to do the job! LOL THEN, I'll celebrate good! hahaRogene S <saxony01 > wrote: Leyna, That doc did a number on you . . . Do something nice for yourself today! . . . You've fought a hard battle and won! It's time to celebrate!. . . The Lord didn't bring you this far to let you down now. Hugs and prayers, Rogene __________________________________________________

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Good plan, Leyna!

The most important thing now is for you to find a way to get those implants out.

> Leyna,

>

> That doc did a number on you . . . Do something nice for yourself today! . .

..

>

> You've fought a hard battle and won! It's time to celebrate!. . .

>

> The Lord didn't bring you this far to let you down now.

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Leyna, I'm very happy for you that it turned out...I DO believe love

is an action word, and whether that rude Dr. knew it or not, you just

did a loving thing for him by complaining about his behaviour!! Good

for you! I'll pray for your explant and healing!!

Love & Affection,

Sunny

--- In , " leyna1964 " <leyna1964@...>

wrote:

>

> Just got home from the new PCD appointment.

>

> I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description of

> En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a

> mammogram that stated Fibrocystic breast disease and breast pain,

> the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had

> Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the referrals

I

> needed for doctors and my insurance.

>

> I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.

>

> So they put me in a room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in,

he

> did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very

rudely

> saying....

>

> " Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of

> implants due to breast cancer, right? "

>

> I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I knew,

> he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!

>

> I said " No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16

> years ago and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of

> health problems and need to have them removed. "

>

> He said " So you think you can just waltz in here and get a referral

> and TennCare will pay for them? HA! "

>

> I said " Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they said they

> would pay for the removal, as long as I had proof they were making

> me sick "

>

> He said " I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast

> impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the

> FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE! They

> will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC! "

>

> I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my

> symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few

years,

> I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about my

> friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as me,

> who also has imlants, I tried to tell him everything I've read

> online and in books, etc.

>

> I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with implants-

> he said " That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants! "

>

> He would not listen, but he said " I'll HUMOR you and give you a

> referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me crying

> because TennCare won't cover it! "

>

> I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying

right

> there in his office.

>

> He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!

>

> So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in

her

> late twenties named Tamera.

>

> She was AWESOME!

>

> Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13 years

> old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant and

> was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was

> consulting with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had

> the money saved up.

>

> She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size 32A...she

> had grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out.

>

> She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said

> the manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she

> said several other people had complained about how rude he was to

> them.

>

> So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about

how

> rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like

> this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed

> and wanted some referrals!

>

> (and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the

> plastic surgeon that my Gyno had set me up an appointment with) and

> made sure that he took my insurance.

>

> She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the

> definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did

> that procedure, and he said he could do it that way, Yes.

>

> She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it, as

> long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.

>

> The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare stating

> that this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND RUPTURED

> (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed

> immedietely.

>

> She had to find a " code " for insurance purposes, and the book she

> was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she

> put " Capsulectomy " which was as close as she could find. She said

> there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it

in

> the book.

>

> The manager said that she wished more people would come to her

about

> this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her) because

> she would have a reason to fire him then!

>

> Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would know

> something from my insurance company by then, because she had put

> URGENT on all the paperwork for me!

>

> Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and said

> they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back

to

> them-they would make sure that doctor acted right next time! LOL

>

> Everything is hopefully going to fall into place now-I've taken the

> first steps!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sunny! I feel like I'm almost in the clear with all this, but I still have not met the surgeon. I just want to be sure I have everything he needs to do-this is a one time shot-my insurance will not cover a second surgery if he does not do this one right! So I'm scared about that. I've felt so bad lately-especially the last few days. I feel all sick at my stomach, feverish at times, and a lot of pain and numbness in my right breast and arm. It's scary and I can't wait to get these toxic bags out of me! Sunny <wellnessnow@...> wrote: Leyna, I'm very happy for you that it turned out...I DO believe love is an action word, and whether that rude Dr. knew it or not, you just did a loving thing for him by complaining about his behaviour!! Good for you! I'll pray for your explant and healing!!Love & Affection,Sunny >> Just got home from the new PCD appointment.> > I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description of > En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a > mammogram that stated Fibrocystic breast disease and breast pain, > the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had > Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the referrals I >

needed for doctors and my insurance.> > I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.> > So they put me in a room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in, he > did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very rudely > saying....> > "Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of > implants due to breast cancer, right?"> > I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I knew, > he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!> > I said "No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16 > years ago and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of > health problems and need to have them removed."> > He said "So you think you can just waltz in here and get a referral > and TennCare will pay for them? HA!"> > I said "Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they

said they > would pay for the removal, as long as I had proof they were making > me sick"> > He said "I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast > impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the > FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE! They > will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC!"> > I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my > symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few years, > I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about my > friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as me, > who also has imlants, I tried to tell him everything I've read > online and in books, etc.> > I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with implants-> he said "That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants!"> >

He would not listen, but he said "I'll HUMOR you and give you a > referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me crying > because TennCare won't cover it!"> > I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying right > there in his office. > > He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!> > So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in her > late twenties named Tamera.> > She was AWESOME!> > Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13 years > old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant and > was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was > consulting with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had > the money saved up. > > She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size 32A...she > had

grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out.> > She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said > the manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she > said several other people had complained about how rude he was to > them.> > So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about how > rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like > this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed > and wanted some referrals!> > (and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the > plastic surgeon that my Gyno had set me up an appointment with) and > made sure that he took my insurance.> > She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the > definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did > that procedure, and he said he

could do it that way, Yes.> > She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it, as > long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.> > The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare stating > that this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND RUPTURED > (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed > immedietely. > > She had to find a "code" for insurance purposes, and the book she > was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she > put "Capsulectomy" which was as close as she could find. She said > there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it in > the book.> > The manager said that she wished more people would come to her about > this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her) because > she would have a reason to fire him then!> >

Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would know > something from my insurance company by then, because she had put > URGENT on all the paperwork for me!> > Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and said > they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back to > them-they would make sure that doctor acted right next time! LOL> > Everything is hopefully going to fall into place now-I've taken the > first steps!>

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Leyna, it won't be long now. I became very anxious and fearful in

the weeks previous to my explant, and Rogene reminded me to Let Go

and Let God!! I was forgetting that my life is in HIS hands, not

mine. He will surely guide you to the right doctor and right

surgery. I just had to give it ALL to HIM and trust that he would be

in the operating room working through the surgeons hands.

Love & Comfort,

Sunny

> >

> > Just got home from the new PCD appointment.

> >

> > I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description

of

> > En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a

> > mammogram that stated Fibrocystic breast disease and breast pain,

> > the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had

> > Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the

referrals

> I

> > needed for doctors and my insurance.

> >

> > I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.

> >

> > So they put me in a room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in,

> he

> > did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very

> rudely

> > saying....

> >

> > " Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of

> > implants due to breast cancer, right? "

> >

> > I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I

knew,

> > he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!

> >

> > I said " No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16

> > years ago and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of

> > health problems and need to have them removed. "

> >

> > He said " So you think you can just waltz in here and get a

referral

> > and TennCare will pay for them? HA! "

> >

> > I said " Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they said they

> > would pay for the removal, as long as I had proof they were

making

> > me sick "

> >

> > He said " I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast

> > impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the

> > FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE!

They

> > will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC! "

> >

> > I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my

> > symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few

> years,

> > I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about

my

> > friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as

me,

> > who also has imlants, I tried to tell him everything I've read

> > online and in books, etc.

> >

> > I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with

implants-

> > he said " That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants! "

> >

> > He would not listen, but he said " I'll HUMOR you and give you a

> > referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me

crying

> > because TennCare won't cover it! "

> >

> > I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying

> right

> > there in his office.

> >

> > He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!

> >

> > So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in

> her

> > late twenties named Tamera.

> >

> > She was AWESOME!

> >

> > Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13

years

> > old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant

and

> > was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was

> > consulting with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had

> > the money saved up.

> >

> > She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size

32A...she

> > had grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them

out.

> >

> > She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said

> > the manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she

> > said several other people had complained about how rude he was to

> > them.

> >

> > So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about

> how

> > rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like

> > this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed

> > and wanted some referrals!

> >

> > (and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the

> > plastic surgeon that my Gyno had set me up an appointment with)

and

> > made sure that he took my insurance.

> >

> > She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the

> > definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did

> > that procedure, and he said he could do it that way, Yes.

> >

> > She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it,

as

> > long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.

> >

> > The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare

stating

> > that this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND

RUPTURED

> > (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed

> > immedietely.

> >

> > She had to find a " code " for insurance purposes, and the book she

> > was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she

> > put " Capsulectomy " which was as close as she could find. She said

> > there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it

> in

> > the book.

> >

> > The manager said that she wished more people would come to her

> about

> > this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her)

because

> > she would have a reason to fire him then!

> >

> > Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would

know

> > something from my insurance company by then, because she had put

> > URGENT on all the paperwork for me!

> >

> > Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and

said

> > they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back

> to

> > them-they would make sure that doctor acted right next time! LOL

> >

> > Everything is hopefully going to fall into place now-I've taken

the

> > first steps!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks for the encouragement Sunny! :)Sunny <wellnessnow@...> wrote: Leyna, it won't be long now. I became very anxious and fearful in the weeks previous to my explant, and Rogene reminded me to Let Go and Let God!! I was forgetting that my life is in HIS hands, not mine. He will surely guide you to the right doctor and right surgery. I just had to give it ALL to HIM and trust that he would be in the operating room working through the surgeons hands.Love & Comfort,Sunny

> >> > Just got home from the new PCD appointment.> > > > I had walked in there with a list of my symptoms, a description of > > En Bloc Procedure, the original copy of my Gyno's referral for a > > mammogram that stated Fibrocystic breast disease and breast pain, > > the paperwork from the rheumatologist stating that I had > > Fibromyalgia and widespread pain, and then a list of the referrals > I > > needed for doctors and my insurance.> > > > I thought all this would be helpful to the new doctor.> > > > So they put me in a

room, and when Dr. (the PCD) walked in, > he > > did not introduce himself at all. He STORMED in the room very > rudely > > saying....> > > > "Ok, so you want a referral for TennCare to pay for removal of > > implants due to breast cancer, right?"> > > > I was shook up by how rude he was right off the bat-for all I knew, > > he wasn't even the doctor I was there to see!> > > > I said "No-I didn't have breast cancer-I just got the implants 16 > > years ago and I believe they are leaking and I'm having a lot of > > health problems and need to have them removed."> > > > He said "So you think you can just waltz in here and get a referral > > and TennCare will pay for them? HA!"> > > > I said "Well, yes-I've already talked to them and they said they > > would pay for the

removal, as long as I had proof they were making > > me sick"> > > > He said "I don't know you from Adam! And on top of that, breast > > impants are VERY SAFE! They do NOT cause health problems, and the > > FDA has put silicone back on the market because they are SAFE! They > > will NOT pay for removal because this is COSMETIC!"> > > > I tried to show him my piece of paper I had brought with all my > > symptoms, I tried to tell him how sick I've been the last few > years, > > I tried to tell him about this group, I tried to tell him about my > > friend who is now on disability because of the same symptoms as me, > > who also has imlants, I tried to tell him everything I've read > > online and in books, etc.> > > > I tried to tell him about the thousands of sick women with implants-> > he

said "That's just a coincidence! NOT from implants!"> > > > He would not listen, but he said "I'll HUMOR you and give you a > > referral for this surgeon...but you'll be running back to me crying > > because TennCare won't cover it!"> > > > I was at the end of my rope by this time, and I started crying > right > > there in his office. > > > > He had no right to be so mean to me right off the bat like that!> > > > So he walks out and his nurse walked in. She was a black girl in > her > > late twenties named Tamera.> > > > She was AWESOME!> > > > Ends up that this girl had her breast removed when she was 13 years > > old, due to breast cancer! She had one Silicone breast implant and > > was having problems with a lot of pain in her shoulder and was > > consulting

with surgeons to have her implant removed when she had > > the money saved up. > > > > She had them put in when she was 13 years old, and a size 32A...she > > had grown into a 36DD and wore a prosthesis (sp?) to even them out.> > > > She told me that that mean doctor did not own the clinic-she said > > the manager/owner was there if I wanted to complain about him-she > > said several other people had complained about how rude he was to > > them.> > > > So I went back to the manager's (Jean) office and told her about > how > > rude this doctor was. I told her that he had no right to act like > > this to me-I was sick and just wanted to have my implants removed > > and wanted some referrals!> > > > (and the nurse Tamera) sat there and called Dr. Koleyni,(the > > plastic surgeon that my

Gyno had set me up an appointment with) and > > made sure that he took my insurance.> > > > She did not know what En Bloc was, and after I gave her the > > definition I had brought with me, she asked the doctor if he did > > that procedure, and he said he could do it that way, Yes.> > > > She called my insurance company, who said they would pay for it, as > > long as I had proof that they needed to be removed.> > > > The nurse, Tamera sat down and wrote a referral to TennCare stating > > that this was URGENT and that my implants WERE LEAKING AND RUPTURED > > (she did this for me with no MRI!) and needed to be removed > > immedietely. > > > > She had to find a "code" for insurance purposes, and the book she > > was going by did not have En Bloc listed at all, so she > > put "Capsulectomy"

which was as close as she could find. She said > > there has got to be another name for it, but we could not find it > in > > the book.> > > > The manager said that she wished more people would come to her > about > > this doctor (people just complained to the nurses, not her) because > > she would have a reason to fire him then!> > > > Tamera told me to call her back on Monday or Tuesday-she would know > > something from my insurance company by then, because she had put > > URGENT on all the paperwork for me!> > > > Both Tamera and the owner/manager of the clinic hugged me and said > > they would help me get this taken care of and to please come back > to > > them-they would make sure that doctor acted right next time! LOL> > > > Everything is hopefully going to fall into place

now-I've taken the > > first steps!> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

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